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Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-15-2020, 6:18 AM Reply   
For those of you saying you’re conservative , but will not vote for Trump over Biden, because you’re waiting for a better moderate candidate , you really think 4 yrs of far left policies is going to be more tolerable , and better for this country than Trump ?


You think turning America into Portland , Seattle , Chicago , Baltimore , Minneapolis , San Francisco , LA , and Atlanta is a better move? If you truly believe that , then you’re not a conservative at all.


Maybe the left should actually give Trump a chance to run a country rather create false narratives and blatant lies for 4 yrs straight, in order to remove him. Name one other president that has been as maliciously and relentlessly attacked at every word they speak. 24hrs a day 7 days a week with 90% bull**** lies . Have every single word flipped and altered falsely to push an agenda. I don’t think Trump is the messiah but he’s who we have at the moment , and I’ll be goddammed I give these lefty domestic terrorists any more power than they already have. The left is as extreme left as they can go , Trunp is far from a moderate , but he’s still nowhere near and extreme righty

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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-15-2020, 7:32 AM Reply   
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Are you guys worried you will be under water soon? Al Gore said florida would be totally under water by the end of 2020 We packed up the family and went to disney world. Everyone asked why we came, we told them to see it before it was gone. "you know, Al Gore said so" NZ is kinda like a florida. I was wondering when NZ is going to be under water. how many days do you guys have left?
Nah, NZ is pretty mountainous
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       08-15-2020, 7:35 AM Reply   
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For those of you saying you’re conservative , but will not vote for Trump over Biden, because you’re waiting for a better moderate candidate , you really think 4 yrs of far left policies is going to be more tolerable , and better for this country than Trump ?
Your interpretation of the extent of Biden's liberalness is not relevant. The correct question is.... Do you think Biden is better than Trump. The answer is.... Yes.

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Name one other president that has been as maliciously and relentlessly attacked at every word they speak.
If you can name another President that couldn't open his mouth without lying or acting like a total idiot then you've found your guy.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-15-2020, 7:41 AM Reply   
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Your interpretation of the extent of Biden's liberalness is not relevant. The correct question is.... Do you think Biden is better than Trump. The answer is.... Yes.

If you can name another President that couldn't open his mouth without lying or acting like a total idiot then you've found your guy.
If you think Biden is actually going to run the country based on his views and beliefs you need a lobotomy. The extreme left will dominate him and run his entire 4 yrs because he’s completely delusional and can’t speak or think for himself. He’s a bumbling idiot.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       08-15-2020, 7:51 AM Reply   
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He’s a bumbling idiot.
Trump's a bumbling idiot. If you think I would consider the opinion of people who don't know that then you need a lobotomy. Not that it would fix anything, but it's fun to say.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-15-2020, 7:58 AM Reply   
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Your interpretation of the extent of Biden's liberalness is not relevant. The correct question is.... Do you think Biden is better than Trump. The answer is.... Yes.

If you can name another President that couldn't open his mouth without lying or acting like a total idiot then you've found your guy.
Biden tells tall stories, so tall, even the left media cant keep the lie going. So, please stop, Biden is in his first stages of dementia. So anyone who thinks they both lie, would still chose the lier who is not months away from wearing a diaper and drool bib. Also, while its not Bidens fault for his old age, he may not physically make the election and has already not made it mentally. He doe not what day it, its, he forgets what state he is in, he forgets Obamas name while trying to use HIS name as a name drop. He's and old man now, no-one pays him no mind!
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       08-15-2020, 8:02 AM Reply   
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Blah blah blah. He still appeals to enough people to win.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/

YOU are in denial, he doesn't have enough votes to win at this point in time, but there is a Lot of time left before the election. Trump is awesome at obstruction, Trumps needs more voter obstruction to win. Guarantee you they are Not replacing these mailboxes.
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Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-15-2020, 8:32 AM Reply   
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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/

YOU are in denial, he doesn't have enough votes to win at this point in time, but there is a Lot of time left before the election. Trump is awesome at obstruction, Trumps needs more voter obstruction to win. Guarantee you they are Not replacing these mailboxes.
thats fake new, and it was confirmed by the post office, last night. perfect example of left wing BS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIdy7sVdU6k

Every city has pretty much posted why, its not because of the VOTE! Its because they are empty, and a waste of tax payers money to have someone go look inside an empty box. Also because, people are fishing in the boxes.

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Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       08-15-2020, 11:36 AM Reply   
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thats fake new, and it was confirmed by the post office, last night. perfect example of left wing BS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIdy7sVdU6k
Every city has pretty much posted why, its not because of the VOTE! Its because they are empty, and a waste of tax payers money to have someone go look inside an empty box. Also because, people are fishing in the boxes.
Yes, it is all a hoax.

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/11/90121...ecting-workers
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-16-2020, 4:20 AM Reply   
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For those of you saying you’re conservative , but will not vote for Trump over Biden, because you’re waiting for a better moderate candidate , you really think 4 yrs of far left policies is going to be more tolerable , and better for this country than Trump ?


You think turning America into Portland , Seattle , Chicago , Baltimore , Minneapolis , San Francisco , LA , and Atlanta is a better move? If you truly believe that , then you’re not a conservative at all.


Maybe the left should actually give Trump a chance to run a country rather create false narratives and blatant lies for 4 yrs straight, in order to remove him. Name one other president that has been as maliciously and relentlessly attacked at every word they speak. 24hrs a day 7 days a week with 90% bull**** lies . Have every single word flipped and altered falsely to push an agenda. I don’t think Trump is the messiah but he’s who we have at the moment , and I’ll be goddammed I give these lefty domestic terrorists any more power than they already have. The left is as extreme left as they can go , Trunp is far from a moderate , but he’s still nowhere near and extreme righty
Amen. X2
Old     (joshugan)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-16-2020, 9:02 AM Reply   
The "sky is falling if they get elected" gruel peddled by Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and the right-wing media, which is echoed by most of you Trump supporters does not come close to the clear and present danger of Donald Trump's megalomania and desire for an autocracy regardless of the rule of law.

I did not like Barack Obama as president and don't think he did a good job; however, he was never as bad as the horrible predictions of how bad he was going to be made by the right-wing media.

The notion that Donald Trump would be able to do so much more "good" if the left would just get out of his way is nonsense. (It's also another Rush Limbaugh Fox News idea.) Every president knows they're going to have to contend with the other side/party. That's part of the checks and balances set up by the founding of fathers. So if Donald Trump is as brilliant as his supporters say he is then why does he tweet so much? Why provide all of that ammunition to the left that causes them to then engage in "witch hunts" and "obstruct" Donald Trump's policies? If Trump is so smart then he would have learned a long time ago to keep his mouth shut to get the job done. He also provided plenty of ammunition from his crazy press conferences. He was "smart" enough to stop having press conferences until the Corona virus came up but he was never able to control himself with Twitter. So the left is bad because they're constantly attacking him but Trump is smart by continuing to give them insane tweets and retweets to use as ammunition? Even many of his high-level supporters say they wish he would tweet less. The inability to have self-control never makes for good leadership.

It's not hard to tell from his press conferences and his tweets that he is not a good person to have as president. It's also not hard to tell from this terrible economic policy of increasing spending while also lowering taxes. Even the fed chair said that's not sustainable.

Also, regarding me apparently not knowing the importance of judges, I'm an attorney who's in court at least once a week. Many of my good friends are judges including some appeals court judges. Here's the funny thing about how the media on both sides portrays judges: if a judge rules in a way that they don't like they call that judge an activist judge. The left does it. The right does it. One of my appeals court judge friends is married to his husband and very liberal; however, you would never know that from his rulings because his rulings follow the rule of law, far more so than some of his colleagues who are conservative and were appointed by conservatives. (And to be fair, far more so than some of the liberal judges who are appointed by liberals.) Also, my friend was appointed by a conservative governor.

And regardless of whether you think Donald Trump is or is not trying to destroy the post office can you not agree that at a time when we are really going to need a lot more mail in voting that we should be doing whatever we can to make sure the post office does its part well? Having a post office that can quickly process the mail and get ballots where they need to go would decrease the likelihood of fraud not increase it. Having sacks of mail laying around that more people can access is a patently bad idea. Thus, even if he is not overtly trying to destroy the post office, he is certainly not trying to help the current situation at the post office which is clearly going to be an even bigger problem with all of the mail in ballots. if he's really concerned about mail fraud you would think he would oversee the hiring of more people at the post office and put more inspectors in place there to make sure there is no tampering. Again, it's just another example of his bad leadership abilities and another example of what I am voting against.

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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-16-2020, 10:02 AM Reply   
Exactly, Biden as a radical socialist puppet is a laugh. He is a corporate weasel and status quo merchant. Doesn't even support medicare for all. Still better than the Mango Menace.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       08-16-2020, 2:48 PM Reply   
[QUOTE=xstarrider;2000801]For those of you saying you’re conservative , but will not vote for Trump over Biden, because you’re waiting for a better moderate candidate , you really think 4 yrs of far left policies is going to be more tolerable , and better for this country than Trump ?/QUOTE]

Well, for that matter you could be wrapping up term 2 of the Romney admin. Some would say that the second Obama term spawned Trump and that there'd be no Trump presidency but for Obama's second term. So if trump loses, no doubt the right will apply that same logic again to get us a president duterte, who will make Trump look like GHWB in comparison.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       08-17-2020, 2:20 AM Reply   
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I did not like Barack Obama as president and don't think he did a good job
What President did a better job?

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Having a post office that can quickly process the mail and get ballots where they need to go would decrease the likelihood of fraud not increase it. Having sacks of mail laying around that more people can access is a patently bad idea.
Ironically the talking heads at Faux News are tooling their idiots into believing that Democrats are trying to destroy America's institutions while simultaneous trying to destroy the one long standing American institution that has served the citizens of this country very well. Can't wait for Nov.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-17-2020, 5:17 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by joshugan View Post
The "sky is falling if they get elected" gruel peddled by Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and the right-wing media, which is echoed by most of you Trump supporters does not come close to the clear and present danger of Donald Trump's megalomania and desire for an autocracy regardless of the rule of law.

I did not like Barack Obama as president and don't think he did a good job; however, he was never as bad as the horrible predictions of how bad he was going to be made by the right-wing media.

The notion that Donald Trump would be able to do so much more "good" if the left would just get out of his way is nonsense. (It's also another Rush Limbaugh Fox News idea.) Every president knows they're going to have to contend with the other side/party. That's part of the checks and balances set up by the founding of fathers. So if Donald Trump is as brilliant as his supporters say he is then why does he tweet so much? Why provide all of that ammunition to the left that causes them to then engage in "witch hunts" and "obstruct" Donald Trump's policies? If Trump is so smart then he would have learned a long time ago to keep his mouth shut to get the job done. He also provided plenty of ammunition from his crazy press conferences. He was "smart" enough to stop having press conferences until the Corona virus came up but he was never able to control himself with Twitter. So the left is bad because they're constantly attacking him but Trump is smart by continuing to give them insane tweets and retweets to use as ammunition? Even many of his high-level supporters say they wish he would tweet less. The inability to have self-control never makes for good leadership.

It's not hard to tell from his press conferences and his tweets that he is not a good person to have as president. It's also not hard to tell from this terrible economic policy of increasing spending while also lowering taxes. Even the fed chair said that's not sustainable.

Also, regarding me apparently not knowing the importance of judges, I'm an attorney who's in court at least once a week. Many of my good friends are judges including some appeals court judges. Here's the funny thing about how the media on both sides portrays judges: if a judge rules in a way that they don't like they call that judge an activist judge. The left does it. The right does it. One of my appeals court judge friends is married to his husband and very liberal; however, you would never know that from his rulings because his rulings follow the rule of law, far more so than some of his colleagues who are conservative and were appointed by conservatives. (And to be fair, far more so than some of the liberal judges who are appointed by liberals.) Also, my friend was appointed by a conservative governor.

And regardless of whether you think Donald Trump is or is not trying to destroy the post office can you not agree that at a time when we are really going to need a lot more mail in voting that we should be doing whatever we can to make sure the post office does its part well? Having a post office that can quickly process the mail and get ballots where they need to go would decrease the likelihood of fraud not increase it. Having sacks of mail laying around that more people can access is a patently bad idea. Thus, even if he is not overtly trying to destroy the post office, he is certainly not trying to help the current situation at the post office which is clearly going to be an even bigger problem with all of the mail in ballots. if he's really concerned about mail fraud you would think he would oversee the hiring of more people at the post office and put more inspectors in place there to make sure there is no tampering. Again, it's just another example of his bad leadership abilities and another example of what I am voting against.
“Clear and present danger of Donald Trump’s megalomania.” Lol. Gee, that’s not dramatic at all.

I think you’re really telling us you’re a tone-deaf, swamp-dwelling RINO with zero ability to read the writing on the wall. Do you even watch the news? Ever? Do you not see what the left is currently espousing? You think any part of that uber-left agenda is good for this country? Why cut off your nose just to spite your face? Get back on the good team.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-17-2020, 5:27 AM Reply   
Hey you libtards! Never fear. China is coming to your rescue.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chi...ference-threat
Old     (joshugan)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-17-2020, 6:39 AM Reply   
markj, you have once again engaged in only ad hominem attacks on me without actually attempting to refute any of my points.

You're so certain that you're correct that you have lost the ability to impartially look at politics.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       08-17-2020, 6:40 AM Reply   
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markj, you have once again engaged in only ad hominem attacks on me without actually attempting to refute any of my points.

You're so certain that you're correct that you have lost the ability to impartially look at politics.
New here, huh
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-17-2020, 7:45 AM Reply   
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markj, you have once again engaged in only ad hominem attacks on me without actually attempting to refute any of my points.

You're so certain that you're correct that you have lost the ability to impartially look at politics.
You mean like, "clear and present danger of Donald Trump's megalomania?" Pot/kettle mean anything to you?

...and you have been broken down, weakened and snookered into buying the left's fallacy that Biden is a better option. Maybe you should consider not hanging around so many leftists as you're clearly not strong enough to fend off their dogma.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-17-2020, 7:50 AM Reply   
Josh=the new 95sn 2.0.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-17-2020, 7:58 AM Reply   
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markj, you have once again engaged in only ad hominem attacks on me without actually attempting to refute any of my points.

You're so certain that you're correct that you have lost the ability to impartially look at politics.
Hey, why don't you try a little exercise and look impartially into Kamaltoe? If you have a single, objective bone in your body, you'll readily admit she'll actually be filling in for Dementia Joe in short order if he's elected. Anyway, that woman is awful in every way, shape and form. Listen to what her former coworkers (mostly democrats) say about her and then try to tell me we're better off with Biden/Kamaltoe.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-17-2020, 8:42 AM Reply   
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Hey, why don't you try a little exercise and look impartially into Kamaltoe? If you have a single, objective bone in your body, you'll readily admit she'll actually be filling in for Dementia Joe in short order if he's elected. Anyway, that woman is awful in every way, shape and form. Listen to what her former coworkers (mostly democrats) say about her and then try to tell me we're better off with Biden/Kamaltoe.
LOL, since when did you ever have an objective opinion or show even a faint glimpse of impartiality? You post FOX NEWS daily as an impartial source knowing that they are by definition a hard right wing outlet.

Talk about your own candidate, sell Pence and Trump. Can you? The intentionally error filled attempt to knock down the competition demonstrates your pusillanimity. There are a dozen books written by past trump appointees, read what the "Best People" who have worked for him have to say. How many "tell-alls" have been written about the 8 Obama years? Why?
Why are MAGA hats made in China? Biden caps are Union made in the USA. Who supports the USA?
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-17-2020, 8:46 AM Reply   
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"It is the theme of every autocrat who ever seized power or tried to hold onto it."
Retired US Navy Adm. William McRaven, the Navy SEAL who oversaw the raid that eliminated the terrorist leader Osama bin Laden in 2011, accused President Donald Trump of undermining not only the United States Postal Service but every major US institution.

https://www.businessinsider.com/navy...rce=reddit.com
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       08-17-2020, 10:06 AM Reply   
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Anyway, that woman is awful in every way, shape and form. Listen to what her former coworkers (mostly democrats) say about her and then try to tell me we're better off with Biden/Kamaltoe.
Do you have a link? What are the complaints about her?

Are all of her former subordinates under NDAs?
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       08-17-2020, 10:15 AM Reply   
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Are all of her former subordinates under NDAs?
as well as half her family lulz
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-17-2020, 10:34 AM Reply   
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LOL, since when did you ever have an objective opinion or show even a faint glimpse of impartiality? You post FOX NEWS daily as an impartial source knowing that they are by definition a hard right wing outlet.

Talk about your own candidate, sell Pence and Trump. Can you? The intentionally error filled attempt to knock down the competition demonstrates your pusillanimity. There are a dozen books written by past trump appointees, read what the "Best People" who have worked for him have to say. How many "tell-alls" have been written about the 8 Obama years? Why?
Why are MAGA hats made in China? Biden caps are Union made in the USA. Who supports the USA?
You're not part of this conversation and I don't want to confuse matters by letting you pull me in another direction. Bear in mind there's only one of me against 6 of you. This was aimed a different libtard that calls himself a republican-like you, but it's not you. Stay in your own lane. Josh is about to be flushed into the same libtard cess pool with you. You guys can cozy up together soon enough.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-17-2020, 10:46 AM Reply   
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Do you have a link? What are the complaints about her?

Are all of her former subordinates under NDAs?
Too numerous to count. I could paraphrase, but then I'd be accused of ad hominem attacks. Delta is the one who usually comes in with those deadly details and unleashes the hurricanes of truth that blow all your houses down.

Actually, the only thing I know she was "under" was Slick Willy Brown while he was married and she was screwing her way up the ladder. She's a certified swamp rat and you know it. Don't feign stupidity any further. She couldn't even make it to the first primary vote without her campaign imploding because even you lefties didn't like her. She never passed 2%!!! Now they have to choose between her and Trump. I'd say the jokes on all of you libtards.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       08-17-2020, 10:55 AM Reply   
The hypocrisy and sexism is impressive, even for you.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-17-2020, 11:07 AM Reply   
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The hypocrisy and sexism is impressive, even for you.
Why, thank you. I'm here all week.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-17-2020, 11:25 AM Reply   
Trump totally called it right when he labeled Biden a Trojan horse for socialism. This is not some new realization or trendy metaphor. It's exactly what so many of us have been warning about all year.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       08-17-2020, 11:30 AM Reply   
Lol to live in Markville where Biden is a secret socialist and concerns over Trump cheating in the election are unfounded haha
Old     (joshugan)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-17-2020, 11:32 AM Reply   
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You're not part of this conversation and I don't want to confuse matters by letting you pull me in another direction. Bear in mind there's only one of me against 6 of you. This was aimed a different libtard that calls himself a republican-like you, but it's not you. Stay in your own lane. Josh is about to be flushed into the same libtard cess pool with you. You guys can cozy up together soon enough.
You're waiting on me? So you won't respond to any of the points I raised other than by making personal attacks against me but you are expecting me to go out and do research about Kamala because that's the new thing you brought up?
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       08-17-2020, 11:33 AM Reply   
Welcome to Mark, Josh.
Old     (joshugan)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-17-2020, 11:47 AM Reply   
Wow. I believe the term for that is the Gish gallop. It's Trump's response to most things so it makes sense that a Trump supporter would use it too.
Old     (joshugan)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-17-2020, 11:54 AM Reply   
But when someone engages in the Gish gallop it means they lost. I guess I'm just surprised that markj would give up so easily.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-17-2020, 2:00 PM Reply   
The DNC convention is very much like a telethon. Just keep waiting for someone to say please donate, text 30330030030330000 and donate your money, that we will take anyways if we get back into the whitehouse
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-17-2020, 2:10 PM Reply   
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You're not part of this conversation and I don't want to confuse matters by letting you pull me in another direction. Bear in mind there's only one of me against 6 of you. This was aimed a different libtard that calls himself a republican-like you, but it's not you. Stay in your own lane. Josh is about to be flushed into the same libtard cess pool with you. You guys can cozy up together soon enough.
Get used to it, public opinion math. Maybe a 2020 election results forecast.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-17-2020, 2:52 PM Reply   
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The DNC convention is very much like a telethon. Just keep waiting for someone to say please donate, text 30330030030330000 and donate your money, that we will take anyways if we get back into the whitehouse
Uh huh. How do you feel about your current government spending more than $6T than they have collected and just borrowed on your behalf? You know you still have to pay it back right? $6T! And they pretend to have some fiscal superiority over the Democrats, they have no shame, and rightwing numpties just lap it up.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-17-2020, 3:12 PM Reply   
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Uh huh. How do you feel about your current government spending more than $6T than they have collected and just borrowed on your behalf? You know you still have to pay it back right? $6T! And they pretend to have some fiscal superiority over the Democrats, they have no shame, and rightwing numpties just lap it up.
unfortunately, your opinion does not matter. Move to the states, become a citizen and you can vote and express your opinion. Not being mean, but your opinion is noise as anything you have to say about our countries politics has no bearing because you dont have a vote, so you dont have a voice. stick to NZ politics and whatever rights you guys have down under.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-17-2020, 3:13 PM Reply   
Mr Ed not happy with the Mango Menace:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...15J1D0S5W0sW7w
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-17-2020, 3:24 PM Reply   
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unfortunately, your opinion does not matter. Move to the states, become a citizen and you can vote and express your opinion. Not being mean, but your opinion is noise as anything you have to say about our countries politics has no bearing because you dont have a vote, so you dont have a voice. stick to NZ politics and whatever rights you guys have down under.
My opinion matters as much as yours, I'm going continue to comment as I feel, so suck it. LOL
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-17-2020, 3:25 PM Reply   
New zealand has one of the highest suicide rates in the world. High mental illness, poverty, etc etc. Ralph, get to work, you have a lot of work to do down under. Stop worrying about the USA and focus on NZ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_SuOcstzF0
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-17-2020, 3:32 PM Reply   
I've got no idea why our suicide rate is so high, I love living here. I travel a lot all over the world and it's always rad to come home.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-17-2020, 4:01 PM Reply   
Wow, the DNC convention is a disaster freak show. Trump could get another 2 terms at this rate.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-18-2020, 4:36 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by joshugan View Post
But when someone engages in the Gish gallop it means they lost. I guess I'm just surprised that markj would give up so easily.
Haha! I’ve never heard that term before. It’s a good one. It also describes what we sane ones have been putting up with here for years from libtards. I suppose we’re all guilty of it sometimes. It’s most often accompanied by lengthy, book-like posts. Kind of like the one you recently posted here. I haven’t lost a thing. I will admit to flipping the bird to some posts made by your type because there’s too much BS-it’s like, “where do I start with that one?” I frequently look at some posts and make the call not to respond because I don’t want to spend the time. Plus I can only spend so much time on the crapper. If I’m not responding here, I’m either on vacation or need more roughage in my diet. Lol
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-18-2020, 4:50 AM Reply   
So here are some facts for you Covid basement dwellers. Back in April I tested positive after having contact with a ****head we had to arrest for carjacking. No test to confirm you’re negative , you just return to work when your symptoms are gone for 14 days . Hit me and the other 6 guys that had contact with both ****heads hard........ fever for 4-5 days , body aches , shortness of breath. loss of smell and taste for 10days. I could barely make it up flight of stairs without stopping to catch my breath. Nothing super severe , just basically the flu on steroids


Fast forward to Firday . I need surgery so have a pre surgery CovId screen. After being in riots for 10 days straight, in contact with 100’s *******s, I test positive according to the surgery center testing facility , they cancel my surgery for time being . I go to my healthcare professional , have a second test done because I am asymptomatic , and something’s not adding up , test results come back Negative.


So now what, the surgery center won’t accept my private results , I am considered a positive for purposes of counting , and yet a another test says I am Negative. Seems as legit as voting without an ID. Both medical facilities claim their test is accurate , both have no explanation of why their different , both testing sites , performed same procedure for the test. And we are supposed to believe everything we are told. Yea ok.

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Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-18-2020, 5:01 AM Reply   
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So here are some facts for you Covid basement dwellers. Back in April I tested positive after having contact with a ****head we had to arrest for carjacking. No test to confirm you’re negative , you just return to work when your symptoms are gone for 14 days . Hit me and the other 6 guys that had contact with both ****heads hard........ fever for 4-5 days , body aches , shortness of breath. loss of smell and taste for 10days. I could barely make it up flight of stairs without stopping to catch my breath. Nothing super severe , just basically the flu on steroids


Fast forward to Firday . I need surgery so have a pre surgery CovId screen. After being in riots for 10 days straight, in contact with 100’s *******s, I test positive according to the surgery center testing facility , they cancel my surgery for time being . I go to my healthcare professional , have a second test done because I am asymptomatic , and something’s not adding up , test results come back Negative.


So now what, the surgery center won’t accept my private results , I am considered a positive for purposes of counting , and yet a another test says I am Negative. Seems as legit as voting without an ID.
False results have plagued us from the beginning. Must be Trump’s fault. Sorry to hear of your illness. How have you been since? Any lasting effects? Also wondering how Doug is doing as well.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-18-2020, 5:05 AM Reply   
It took a while for my lungs to get back to full capacity I’ll be generous and say roughly about 2 mos total for them to return to what I felt was normal. I am
Super active ,,,,,,yes even during Covid I play hockey 3 times week, wakeboard , waterski , run , workout , and have a peloton . I could def tell my lungs we not 100% for while.

I feel 100% now

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Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       08-18-2020, 5:20 AM Reply   
xstarrider, I'm glad that you're okay!

I own restaurants. I've been in the industry since I was 14.

There is enough false testing info going around, to, in my opinion, to stop destroying this entire industry.
It's crazy
I am one of those who firmly believes that the left want the chaos and destruction. I think the media helps fuel it
so ,
no
democrat
will
ever
get
my
vote
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       08-18-2020, 6:48 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by xstarrider View Post
It took a while for my lungs to get back to full capacity I’ll be generous and say roughly about 2 mos total for them to return to what I felt was normal. I am
Super active ,,,,,,yes even during Covid I play hockey 3 times week, wakeboard , waterski , run , workout , and have a peloton . I could def tell my lungs we not 100% for while.

I feel 100% now
Glad to hear about your recovery! If there's one thing Covid I can be thankful for, it's that it's put my own mortality into perspective and I've been riding my mountain bike more than I ever have. 10 weeks in a row of over 9000' of climbing/wk. Use it while you've still got it ... cuz you just never know.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-18-2020, 9:59 AM Reply   
Senate report on russian election interference:
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/...rt_volume5.pdf

How does the no collusion talking point go again? Was it something like this from page 962?
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Old     (joshugan)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-18-2020, 10:20 AM Reply   
xstarrider, I'm really glad to hear you've made a full recovery too. I've been concerned about the possibility of getting it and having limited lung function for life. Did you do any thing in particular to help your lungs recover or strengthen them after having it?
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       08-18-2020, 12:07 PM Reply   
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I've got no idea why our suicide rate is so high, I love living here. I travel a lot all over the world and it's always rad to come home.
Probably the cold weather, it's probably warmer down here in Florida in December than it is in New Zealand.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-18-2020, 12:42 PM Reply   
DNC convention cancelled, replaced with RINO convention
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-18-2020, 1:29 PM Reply   
Did AOC say Bernie instead of Biden. lol
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-18-2020, 1:36 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by ralph View Post
Senate report on russian election interference:
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/...rt_volume5.pdf

How does the no collusion talking point go again? Was it something like this from page 962?
But her Emails! Benghazi!
What about what they did to Carter Page? They lied on FISA Warrants.
Biden, His son, took that money, from his job!
Obama Spied on him!
The Dossier!! its fake!!
lol, hooking up with the russians in an American Election...crickets.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-18-2020, 1:41 PM Reply   
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Did AOC say Bernie instead of Biden. lol
Yeah she may be loopy but at least she has principles. She can't stand corporate weasels.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       08-19-2020, 2:08 AM Reply   
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Did AOC say Bernie instead of Biden. lol
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Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       08-19-2020, 3:40 AM Reply   
oops, maybe dipchit Jr. should stick to killing lions...
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Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-19-2020, 3:52 AM Reply   
How can you not love Trump after he says things like this?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...ail-in-ballots
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-19-2020, 4:02 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by joeshmoe View Post
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/

YOU are in denial, he doesn't have enough votes to win at this point in time, but there is a Lot of time left before the election. Trump is awesome at obstruction, Trumps needs more voter obstruction to win. Guarantee you they are Not replacing these mailboxes.
Gee, that whole PO hoax didn’t age so well, did it?
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       08-19-2020, 4:09 AM Reply   
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How can you not love Trump after he says things like this?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...ail-in-ballots
I love it when Trump says stuff like that.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-19-2020, 4:40 AM Reply   
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Gee, that whole PO hoax didn’t age so well, did it?
Are you trying to say DeJoy and trump were not changing things up at USPS? That trump wasnt sowing doubt in the ability of USPS?
They didnt remove mail sorting machines all over? They didnt cut hours? Didnt remove mail boxes?
Why did DeJoy show up with tail between his legs promising to undo all the previous?
Why has no other candidate in history been caught trying to cheat in any way possible? Its disgusting the Astros cheated, their fans know it, they dont take credit for the pennant. Trump people cheat and act like they win. Deplorables is the nice word.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       08-19-2020, 4:40 AM Reply   
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Gee, that whole PO hoax didn’t age so well, did it?
You mean how Trump's guy caved to the pressure to not reduce services before the election? How is fox spinning this debacle-of-his-own-making as a win?
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       08-19-2020, 5:42 AM Reply   
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Gee, that whole PO hoax didn’t age so well, did it?
It might be the nail in the coffin for Trump. So I guess it didn't "age" well for his supporters. PO thing looks extremely bad for Trump to anyone with a modicum of intelligence.

1) Afraid you will lose the election because of mail in ballots.
2) Call mail in ballots a threat with a fraud hoax.
3) Attack the integrity of an important institution that has served the public since before the Constitution was written.
4) Bring in new post master general to suddenly fix a problem nobody was concerned about.
5) The new appointee makes blatant moves to reduce PO capacity right before an election.
6) Back off when it becomes huge news and you realize that it's a huge publicity problem with your campaign.

Ironically all the conspiracy people, who just happen to be mostly Trump supporters can't see anything unusual here, but still think there are pedophiles in the basement of a pizza joint.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       08-19-2020, 5:52 AM Reply   
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As we’ve established upthread Delta, “Election Day” is just the day that voting closes. It’s ok if it takes a while to tabulate votes.
It also has to have been passed by each state on how they are going to elect someone. If a state does not have mail in voting as the primary method, then it is not going to happen. This nonsense of USPS is just that. Democrats know that USPS can not handle that type of action so they started this talking point. Just more food for the idiots.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-19-2020, 6:16 AM Reply   
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It also has to have been passed by each state on how they are going to elect someone. If a state does not have mail in voting as the primary method, then it is not going to happen. This nonsense of USPS is just that. Democrats know that USPS can not handle that type of action so they started this talking point. Just more food for the idiots.
Dont worry, I am voting twice if not as many times as possible, so many others are too. Just get family members to give you their ballots, or grandma, dead family member, college student, not home, fill them out, send them in

My buddy has triplets, all in college, all 3 are 19, he is going to vote for them too. So let the games begin

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Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       08-19-2020, 6:17 AM Reply   
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It also has to have been passed by each state on how they are going to elect someone. If a state does not have mail in voting as the primary method, then it is not going to happen. This nonsense of USPS is just that. Democrats know that USPS can not handle that type of action so they started this talking point. Just more food for the idiots.
I guess I'm an idiot because I can't make sense of your argument. Can you please decipher what the bold/underlined items are referring to, for those of us not up on our democratic conspiracy talking points (sorry -- I've been busy with my ANTIFA training so I can maintain my dem party registration)
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-19-2020, 6:19 AM Reply   
mail in voting is a funny thing, as parents can influence their children, spouse, etc to vote the way they want, who ever gets to the mail box first controls the vote. So you just tell the kids, you want to keep you keys to the car, you will vote the way I say, Also, who is going to back check all the people who vote on mail in, then vote in person. Absentee is different, as it takes you off the registry, mail in ballots do not.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       08-19-2020, 6:43 AM Reply   
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mail in voting is a funny thing, as parents can influence their children, spouse, etc to vote the way they want, who ever gets to the mail box first controls the vote. So you just tell the kids, you want to keep you keys to the car, you will vote the way I say, Also, who is going to back check all the people who vote on mail in, then vote in person. Absentee is different, as it takes you off the registry, mail in ballots do not.
That's some real weird family dynamics right there Doug. Sounds like your fam might need some counseling. Is there any other criminal activity you plan on getting your family into so they can "keep their car keys"?

BTW, be careful in saying what absentee does and doesn't do. It might do what you say where you live, but it doesn't where I do. If I request an absentee ballot I can still go vote in person (as long as I haven't already mailed the absentee ballot in and sign an affidavit at my polling place to that effect), and I'm certainly not purged from the voting rolls.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-19-2020, 6:51 AM Reply   
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Dont worry, I am voting twice if not as many times as possible, so many others are too. Just get family members to give you their ballots, or grandma, dead family member, college student, not home, fill them out, send them in

My buddy has triplets, all in college, all 3 are 19, he is going to vote for them too. So let the games begin
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mail in voting is a funny thing, as parents can influence their children, spouse, etc to vote the way they want, who ever gets to the mail box first controls the vote. So you just tell the kids, you want to keep you keys to the car, you will vote the way I say, Also, who is going to back check all the people who vote on mail in, then vote in person. Absentee is different, as it takes you off the registry, mail in ballots do not
All the above is called cheating.
seems only rightys are planning to cheat. When did cheating make America Great?
Trump is the one who started the games Doug, you seem just fine with cheating. Keep planning, it wont work and you may end up behind bars like other election cheats. Deplorable.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-19-2020, 7:00 AM Reply   
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All the above is called cheating.
seems only rightys are planning to cheat. When did cheating make America Great?
Trump is the one who started the games Doug, you seem just fine with cheating. Keep planning, it wont work and you may end up behind bars like other election cheats. Deplorable.
LOL why do think its going to be a trump vote, what if they are dem's? I am not voting more than one time, but look, the left is willing to burn down cities, buildings, stores, beat police officers, random strangers, what makes anyone believe they are not willing to vote as many times as possible

Obviously they have no moral compass, or they would not be rioting in the streets. So while you think people are on the up and up, you see, that the left is so willing to do anything to win, looks like they would be willing to vote multiple times, if they are willing to burn down the cities they live in.
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       08-19-2020, 7:10 AM Reply   
"you suck at Maths

Try harder, dumbass"

LOL.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-19-2020, 7:24 AM Reply   
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LOL why do think its going to be a trump vote, what if they are dem's? I am not voting more than one time, but look, the left is willing to burn down cities, buildings, stores, beat police officers, random strangers, what makes anyone believe they are not willing to vote as many times as possible

Obviously they have no moral compass, or they would not be rioting in the streets. So while you think people are on the up and up, you see, that the left is so willing to do anything to win, looks like they would be willing to vote multiple times, if they are willing to burn down the cities they live in.
Only one party showing zero MORAL compass. The one who cheated in 2016 and has not stopped. Protest is good for democracy, not so good for dictators.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/08/16...OC&?tpcc=24437
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-19-2020, 7:37 AM Reply   
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Only one party showing zero MORAL compass. The one who cheated in 2016 and has not stopped. Protest is good for democracy, not so good for dictators.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/08/16...OC&?tpcc=24437
So the Blue lives matter movement should start burning down things. What should they burn down, smash, and loot? Is there a list of "to do's" that the BLM and Antifa has listed that way the blue lives matter movement know what to destroy, as they may not destroy anything, and that would go against the rules. the left have implemented.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       08-19-2020, 8:20 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by psudy View Post
"you suck at Maths

Try harder, dumbass"

LOL.
Not clear, but I think you might be trying to poke fun at the poster's grammar? In British English they say "maths" for mathematics...
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-19-2020, 8:27 AM Reply   
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Only one party showing zero MORAL compass. The one who cheated in 2016 and has not stopped. Protest is good for democracy, not so good for dictators.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/08/16...OC&?tpcc=24437
who's protesting? I dont see protests, I see crime. If you burn down, and destroy all these democratic cities, are you not afraid, at some point, people will stand up and vote? Trump is president because people were tired of 8 years of Obama, BTW cheated for hillary, cheated after she lost, and had the DOJ /FBI cheating to get trump out of office, and has people still cheating now. smashing servers, cell phones, and hiding evidence is not cheating? All the FISA crime, cheating. So please stop.

Btw, mail in ballots are on a honor system, you can either throw it away and vote in person, or both! As they are sent our as pre paid postage and anyone can vote twice. Only to be caught if someone proofs all the ballots. so anyone can fill out a ballot for a dead person, etc etc. Who is going to vet this? NO ONE! Who wants this THE LEFT CHEATING! Tabulation has to be prior to the live Vote, total scam, and cannot be done without fraud.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       08-19-2020, 10:10 AM Reply   
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Btw, mail in ballots are on a honor system, you can either throw it away and vote in person, or both! As they are sent our as pre paid postage and anyone can vote twice. Only to be caught if someone proofs all the ballots. so anyone can fill out a ballot for a dead person, etc etc. Who is going to vet this? NO ONE! Who wants this THE LEFT CHEATING! Tabulation has to be prior to the live Vote, total scam, and cannot be done without fraud.
Doug are you relying on a database or compilation of all the states' different and varying laws to tell us how it works? If so, can you please share that resource for the rest of us? It would be really helpful in letting everybody get an understanding of how different states have addressed the problems you are highlighting.

(trying to give you the benefit of the doubt that you wouldn't be just pulling these facts out of your butt)
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-19-2020, 10:18 AM Reply   
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I love it when Trump says stuff like that.
I know genius. Except 0.05% of people protested and we want 100% of people to vote. So yeah, apart from that genius.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-19-2020, 2:40 PM Reply   
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who's protesting? I dont see protests, I see crime. If you burn down, and destroy all these democratic cities, are you not afraid, at some point, people will stand up and vote? Trump is president because people were tired of 8 years of Obama, BTW cheated for hillary, cheated after she lost, and had the DOJ /FBI cheating to get trump out of office, and has people still cheating now. smashing servers, cell phones, and hiding evidence is not cheating? All the FISA crime, cheating. So please stop.

Btw, mail in ballots are on a honor system, you can either throw it away and vote in person, or both! As they are sent our as pre paid postage and anyone can vote twice. Only to be caught if someone proofs all the ballots. so anyone can fill out a ballot for a dead person, etc etc. Who is going to vet this? NO ONE! Who wants this THE LEFT CHEATING! Tabulation has to be prior to the live Vote, total scam, and cannot be done without fraud.
Youre hilarious, its 100% clear the source behind your inner thoughts. You just spit out over half a dozen conspiracy theories in one sentence. Congrats.
Did you not even read Trump Jrs tweet above? The systems work if not tampered with. Your thoughts dispelled in real time.
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