Biden for Prez

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

hardly a distortion when you literally said they are poor because we could not go and spend our money on their island. This is your line of statements.

I said tourists don't go to where people are desperately poor. The exaggeration is you claiming I said they will become rich. Your arguments are extreme exaggerations to deflect from the lack of substance.

Originally Posted by psudy

So now the CDC is making law and extending the eviction moratorium? How exactly can they do that when the SCOTUS just ruled that it had to be voted on? This is crazy. I wish I had a rental so I could kick out some deadbeats and test its legitimacy in the courts.

Im a long time landlord. It always costs more when you have to evict. Its a better bet to work with your tenant and apply for the assistance. Ive done this with just one of my tenants. That way you get paid the money congress approved. Its better to think of this as a way for landlords to get rent money rather than a way for a tenant to not pay rent. Evicting gets you zero back rent, like shooting yourself in the foot. You may get a judgement for the cash but thats worthless. Ask me how i know. I lost no tenants since the start of covid, have not lost a penny in rent. I had a few get late but that was early 2019 during the only actual close down. They caught up within 30 days and been on track since. Biden said, even as he made the call, the courts will over turn but this will buy time. You are thinking about the "deadbeats" and getting emotional, understandable because its real $$. The way to get your rent money is to apply for the relief money if the tenant cant pay. If a tenant isnt paying to be an azz, then of course you will eliminate them when time is right....but get your $$ while you can.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

More ironic is if ol 95's renters decided to stop paying.

Only because you dont understand it. From the landlords point of view, it allows you to get paid your rent from congressional approved funds. Not sure where you got this backwards spin on this. 100% occupancy, 100% paid up. 2 rents raised starting this month. Why wish ill on others?

Originally Posted by 95sn

Im a long time landlord. It always costs more when you have to evict. Its a better bet to work with your tenant and apply for the assistance. Ive done this with just one of my tenants. That way you get paid the money congress approved. Its better to think of this as a way for landlords to get rent money rather than a way for a tenant to not pay rent. Evicting gets you zero back rent, like shooting yourself in the foot. You may get a judgement for the cash but thats worthless. Ask me how i know. I lost no tenants since the start of covid, have not lost a penny in rent. I had a few get late but that was early 2019 during the only actual close down. They caught up within 30 days and been on track since. Biden said, even as he made the call, the courts will over turn but this will buy time. You are thinking about the "deadbeats" and getting emotional, understandable because its real $$. The way to get your rent money is to apply for the relief money if the tenant cant pay. If a tenant isnt paying to be an azz, then of course you will eliminate them when time is right....but get your $$ while you can.

Thats a nice little story you made up there.

your glass is half empty.

Yell upstairs to your grandma and have her fill it.

P, I explained the issue from the landlords POV, you seemed to only see it as the loser tenants getting another handout. These two are not necessarily mutually exclusive. A loser tenant could get free rent relief, true. I also get the opportunity to collect too. I only started the process of Govt $ with my tenant last month. I'll update when/if i get paid.

Originally Posted by psudy

yell upstairs to your grandma and have her fill it.

lol!

Originally Posted by fly135

I said tourists don't go to where people are desperately poor. The exaggeration is you claiming I said they will become rich. Your arguments are extreme exaggerations to deflect from the lack of substance.

And why are they poor? Is it because we can not travel there (though the rest of the world can) or is it because of communism? Is it a combination? Seemed to do reasonably well before Casto took over.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Only because you dont understand it. From the landlords point of view, it allows you to get paid your rent from congressional approved funds. Not sure where you got this backwards spin on this. 100% occupancy, 100% paid up. 2 rents raised starting this month. Why wish ill on others?

Not wishing ill will. Just thinking it would be pretty ironic that the dude you love ends up getting rid of your private property rights. You know, you are one of those evil rich people you democrats love to hate.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Not wishing ill will. Just thinking it would be pretty ironic that the dude you love ends up getting rid of your private property rights. You know, you are one of those evil rich people you democrats love to hate.

Wake me when the evil radical leftwing dems remove my private property rights. Wake me when they come door to door to take my guns. Wake me when the come to take your bibles. Wake me when you are scared.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

And why are they poor? Is it because we can not travel there (though the rest of the world can) or is it because of communism? Is it a combination? Seemed to do reasonably well before Casto took over.

I'm not arguing for their govt. It's just an example of how ridiculous your logic is that you think I am. It's incredibly obtuse on your part that you can't grasp the point I'm making. We can agree that the current govt is bad.

Originally Posted by fly135

I'm not arguing for their govt. It's just an example of how ridiculous your logic is that you think I am. It's incredibly obtuse on your part that you can't grasp the point I'm making. We can agree that the current govt is bad.

I guess at this point, I am not sure what point you are trying to make.

Ok. We agree that the government is bad. Good start.

Republicans and democrats historically not supporting a communist dictator is good in my mind. I don't think it is a hollow act. You don't reward bad behavior.

Of the people who actually lived through communism, the Cuban exiles who live in America can see which political party is the least like the government they left. They tend to choose Republicans. Good for them. That is the reason I choose Republicans. The democrats are historically authoritarian and coddle up to communists.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Wake me when the evil radical leftwing dems remove my private property rights. Wake me when they come door to door to take my guns. Wake me when the come to take your bibles. Wake me when you are scared.

I'm not scared because I have my guns and my bibles. Because of those things we do have our freedoms. As far as waking you up, we have been trying to wake you up because almost every piece of legislation introduced by democrats is pushing for that end. You just get to play both ends against the middle because you can profit from it.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

I'm not scared because I have my guns and my bibles. Because of those things we do have our freedoms. As far as waking you up, we have been trying to wake you up because almost every piece of legislation introduced by democrats is pushing for that end. You just get to play both ends against the middle because you can profit from it.

Things pushed by the Bide admin...
Covid relief
Rejoined Paris Climate accord
Mask wearing
Infrastructure bill
Buy American
Stimulus payments
Get US out of foreign wars
Supports Obamacare

Theres tons more but im busy. If you think he is doing anything sneaky, post a link to the legislation or exec order. Can you do that? The rest is FOX BS scare tactics with no basis in reality, like most of the stuff you post. .

Originally Posted by 95sn

Things pushed by the Bide admin...
Covid relief
Rejoined Paris Climate accord
Mask wearing
Infrastructure bill
Buy American
Stimulus payments
Get US out of foreign wars
Supports Obamacare

Theres tons more but im busy. If you think he is doing anything sneaky, post a link to the legislation or exec order. Can you do that? The rest is FOX BS scare tactics with no basis in reality, like most of the stuff you post. .

You forgot:
Pushing CRT/BLM lies

Massive treasonous border crisis with over one million illegals invading our country without a single effort to prevent their entrance. They literally bus and fly illegals all over the country and let em go.

Near-unbelievable crime stats

Fuel prices doubled and energy independence lost-which more than erases all the “free” Kung flu cash handouts

Totalitarian efforts to force unwanted, untested and unproven experimental drugs on society

PS The “infrastructure bill” only contains minimal actual infrastructure. Most of it is a libtard wish list that pushes socialism

Originally Posted by markj

You forgot:
Pushing CRT/BLM lies

Massive treasonous border crisis with over one million illegals invading our country without a single effort to prevent their entrance. They literally bus and fly illegals all over the country and let em go.

Near-unbelievable crime stats

Fuel prices doubled and energy independence lost-which more than erases all the “free” Kung flu cash handouts

Totalitarian efforts to force unwanted, untested and unproven experimental drugs on society

PS The “infrastructure bill” only contains minimal actual infrastructure. Most of it is a libtard wish list that pushes socialism

ok, show the Biden admins policy that pushes CRT. Same for BLM. Are you saying you dont want Biden to send migrants to their families who will support them? You want the Govt to do that too? Would you like them all in CA? TX? We will be begging for labor very soon, economy depends on it.
Crime stats are increasing in every state, red states worse than blue.
Is it simpler to be energy independent if their are more or less E vehicles? The sun is infinate, oil not so much, plus its dirty.
I would refer to the Vaccine push as a goal for humanity. Saves untold amount of sickness and suffering. Or you could avoid it and push sickness and death throughout the country. Your choice. Un tested? you serious? Close to 3.4+ billion doses in arms. How many does it take before its" tested"? Thats enough for every single person in the entire country. But not enough for you? Unwanted? The entire world, every single country would do anything to get what you refuse to take. I think that makes you unwanted.
Tell the republicans you are dissatisfied with the infrastructure bill theyre about to vote for it in big numbers. Its good for the country.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

I guess at this point, I am not sure what point you are trying to make.

My point is....

You believe that Cuba is free to trade and engage with tourism with the rest of the world, and that restricting or allowing trade/tourism is of no consequence to the Cuban people. I've heard that argument from the right. That is evidence that restricting trade is not for the purpose of punishing the Cuban govt or people. That is evidence that it is only a restriction on the American people and not on Cuba. That is also evidence that allowing trade/tourism does not affect the Cuban govt. Therefore it is empty policy that only hurts Americans. But that isn't what I believe.

I believe that allowing trade and tourism will benefit the Cuban people. I also believe it will benefit the Cuban govt. Benefiting the Cuban govt isn't something I think is good, but it's just a side affect of giving more opportunities to both Americans and the Cuban people. People don't vacation in the midst of abject poverty. If tourists come then the living conditions will improve among the general population in those areas. Tourism and trade will give America some influence in negotiating with the Cuban govt over issues. If there is no tourism and trade then it will just prove the embargos and sanctions have no affect, as you claim. Nothing gained, nothing lost. So far the argument on the right is let's continue with failed policy. And the only possible explanation is to tool Cuban Americans into voting for them because they like the pointless rhetoric against the Cuban govt. The only thing that would make that rhetoric have a point is if the US has influence, which the failed policy has prevented. It only makes us look like an oppressor, which is not to say that the Cuban govt isn't worse. Just that there isn't an exclusivity of it.

Originally Posted by 95sn

ok, show the Biden admins policy that pushes CRT. Same for BLM. Are you saying you dont want Biden to send migrants to their families who will support them? You want the Govt to do that too? Would you like them all in CA? TX? We will be begging for labor very soon, economy depends on it.
Crime stats are increasing in every state, red states worse than blue.
Is it simpler to be energy independent if their are more or less E vehicles? The sun is infinate, oil not so much, plus its dirty.
I would refer to the Vaccine push as a goal for humanity. Saves untold amount of sickness and suffering. Or you could avoid it and push sickness and death throughout the country. Your choice. Un tested? you serious? Close to 3.4+ billion doses in arms. How many does it take before its" tested"? Thats enough for every single person in the entire country. But not enough for you? Unwanted? The entire world, every single country would do anything to get what you refuse to take. I think that makes you unwanted.
Tell the republicans you are dissatisfied with the infrastructure bill theyre about to vote for it in big numbers. Its good for the country.

Perfect example of how dishonest you are: the first thing out of your pie hole is, “show the Biden policy.....” I never said policy. I said, “pushing”, liar.

I am saying I don’t want them here at all. Period!

Crime stats are increasing because you fuqing libtards have been defunding and undermining the police ever since your fellow waste of blood, George Floyd got himself exterminated like the roach that he was.

Your stupid “goal for humanity” is your political opinion that no one else has to subscribe to. Again, I refer you to the video montage I posted earlier of the two top hypocritical idiots in charge of our country.

Yeah, I’m serious. Those illegal aliens are getting through without being tested first. Wonder why Texas has increasing numbers? Biden is letting them in daily.

How many doses before it’s tested? Why don’t you ask the CDC or the FDA? Doses don’t mean 95sn. It’s time and enough time hasn’t happened yet. That’s why all takers have to literally sign their life away before taking the mark. Let me know when those facts change. Until then, STFU, you cancer on this whole thread.

Originally Posted by markj

Fuel prices doubled and energy independence lost-which more than erases all the “free” Kung flu cash handouts

If you numpties gave a toss about energy independence you wouldn't be crying about a Canadian pipe line and you would be yelling that not enough money was being invested in green energy projects.

Wake me when the evil radical leftwing dems remove my private property rights"

Thought I just tried. Giving power to the CDC to create law is not only illegal its scary. This just shows the Admin doesn't give a crap about the legal process as long as they get their way although they will be the first to use it when they don't.

Pretty sure the government telling you that you cannot evict people from YOUR property, yet forcing you to maintain and pay taxes on said property is a removal of your rights. There are landlords all over that are not getting government money while people squat in their properties, and continue to work.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Hillary Clinton, Benghazi. Her emails..... all those investigations (just like the Durham investigation), nothing. Tighten up the tin headwear.
Remind me, who has actual rape charges? DJT, numerous times.

Of course when the evidence is destroyed due to crooked politics it makes it pretty here to convict. She snd her staff belong in prison . I suppose using personal emails for items if national security is perfectly ok with you. So is destroying the tech containing the evidence and dumping the hard drives. Aside from that dead American soldiers she ignored and lied about , she did nothing wrong, model citizen.




I suppose the line of dead bodies attached to people lining up to testify or give statements is coincidental as well.


Hillary makes your spank bank hero look like the Pope.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Things pushed by the Bide admin...
Covid relief
Rejoined Paris Climate accord
Mask wearing
Infrastructure bill
Buy American
Stimulus payments
Get US out of foreign wars
Supports Obamacare

Theres tons more but im busy. If you think he is doing anything sneaky, post a link to the legislation or exec order. Can you do that? The rest is FOX BS scare tactics with no basis in reality, like most of the stuff you post. .

Covid relief - you mean before he told the world that he would not trust it and now to compensate they are pushing this evil idea of either you get the shot or you get fired?

Rejoined Paris Climate accord - huge failure. biggest world wealth distribution scheme and direct tax of American workers history has ever seen and does nothing for the "environment"

Mask wearing - fail. It is a control mechanism. Does nothing.

Infrastructure bill - Trying to push 4 trillion dollars of debt on us. The "infrastructure bill" biden wants is loaded with give a ways for leftest causes.

Buy American - Never heard anyone say that before. cant really enforce that because democrats rigged the game to have to buy from communist regimes.

Stimulus payments - That was Trump. I am not sure biden has put out one

Get US out of foreign wars - pretty sure he didn't. plans were already underway

Supports Obamacare - big fail on his support and big fail on obamacare. did nothing but make prices skyrocket. In case you and your leftist buddies were not paying attention, obamacare was designed as a poison pill. The goal was to kill the system to get single payer government funded healthcare. So basically the democrats are trying to screw us twice.

Originally Posted by ralph

If you numpties gave a toss about energy independence you wouldn't be crying about a Canadian pipe line and you would be yelling that not enough money was being invested in green energy projects.

We were a net exported of energy prior biden. We spend a ton on "green energy". How do you suppose you keep the lights on at night btw? You leftist have pretty much tried to kill nuclear energy from the start. I don't think you realize how big this country is and how many different climates we have.

Originally Posted by ralph

If you numpties gave a toss about energy independence you wouldn't be crying about a Canadian pipe line and you would be yelling that not enough money was being invested in green energy projects.

Also, a pipeline from canada also includes US inputs. The oil still comes from canada. They just do it by truck and rail which is more environmentally damaging if that is the angle you are looking for.

Originally Posted by fly135

My point is....

You believe that Cuba is free to trade and engage with tourism with the rest of the world, and that restricting or allowing trade/tourism is of no consequence to the Cuban people. I've heard that argument from the right. That is evidence that restricting trade is not for the purpose of punishing the Cuban govt or people. That is evidence that it is only a restriction on the American people and not on Cuba. That is also evidence that allowing trade/tourism does not affect the Cuban govt. Therefore it is empty policy that only hurts Americans. But that isn't what I believe.

I believe that allowing trade and tourism will benefit the Cuban people. I also believe it will benefit the Cuban govt. Benefiting the Cuban govt isn't something I think is good, but it's just a side affect of giving more opportunities to both Americans and the Cuban people. People don't vacation in the midst of abject poverty. If tourists come then the living conditions will improve among the general population in those areas. Tourism and trade will give America some influence in negotiating with the Cuban govt over issues. If there is no tourism and trade then it will just prove the embargos and sanctions have no affect, as you claim. Nothing gained, nothing lost. So far the argument on the right is let's continue with failed policy. And the only possible explanation is to tool Cuban Americans into voting for them because they like the pointless rhetoric against the Cuban govt. The only thing that would make that rhetoric have a point is if the US has influence, which the failed policy has prevented. It only makes us look like an oppressor, which is not to say that the Cuban govt isn't worse. Just that there isn't an exclusivity of it.

fair enough but latching on that Republicans are tooling Cuban America is political wish wash. JFK tried to kill Castro and he was a democrat. Cuban America can see for their own eyes which political party is least like the one they left in Cuba and that is the Republican party. If the Cuban Americans believed as you do that their families only needed your tourism, they would vote democrat.

What you generally described is trickle down economics.

Aren't we free to go to Haiti? They are still poor.

I get what you are saying about if they start living of the teet of tourism, that we could possibly start bribing them. It is basically what china does to use only in reverse. Didn't obama lift sanctions on Cuba as far as American travel? If he did, it does not seem to have worked out.

Originally Posted by ralph

If you numpties gave a toss about energy independence you wouldn't be crying about a Canadian pipe line and you would be yelling that not enough money was being invested in green energy projects.

Also, our work has a huge solar array on the grounds. We had a power interruption from the main electrical provider and guess what. Everything still shut down. The solar panels are there to help with day time loads in hopes they don't have to bring on secondary gas plants to balance the load during peaks. They are not enough to power the grid constantly.

Originally Posted by xstarrider

Of course when the evidence is destroyed due to crooked politics it makes it pretty here to convict. She snd her staff belong in prison . I suppose using personal emails for items if national security is perfectly ok with you. So is destroying the tech containing the evidence and dumping the hard drives. Aside from that dead American soldiers she ignored and lied about , she did nothing wrong, model citizen.




I suppose the line of dead bodies attached to people lining up to testify or give statements is coincidental as well.


Hillary makes your spank bank hero look like the Pope.

I see some people are into conspiracy theories, listen to Alex Jones much?
The republican senate investigated her 9 separate times. If she were so damn guilty dont you think they could have figured it out? Are they that inept? Results of Republican led Clinton investigation. Direct from The Fedralistpapers.
https://thefederalistpapers.org/opin...on-probe-found

Does your research show a different result?

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Covid relief - you mean before he told the world that he would not trust it and now to compensate they are pushing this evil idea of either you get the shot or you get fired?

Rejoined Paris Climate accord - huge failure. biggest world wealth distribution scheme and direct tax of American workers history has ever seen and does nothing for the "environment"

Mask wearing - fail. It is a control mechanism. Does nothing.

Infrastructure bill - Trying to push 4 trillion dollars of debt on us. The "infrastructure bill" biden wants is loaded with give a ways for leftest causes.

Buy American - Never heard anyone say that before. cant really enforce that because democrats rigged the game to have to buy from communist regimes.

Stimulus payments - That was Trump. I am not sure biden has put out one

Get US out of foreign wars - pretty sure he didn't. plans were already underway

Supports Obamacare - big fail on his support and big fail on obamacare. did nothing but make prices skyrocket. In case you and your leftist buddies were not paying attention, obamacare was designed as a poison pill. The goal was to kill the system to get single payer government funded healthcare. So basically the democrats are trying to screw us twice.

No need to rehash the spilt milk. Already determined ALL the Harris and Biden comments about the vaccine were before we ever had a vaccine.
Its ok if you dont agree or approve of rejoining the Paris Accord. The Biden admin believes in climate change, you dont. Oh well.

You need to tighten your tin foil headwear when you state masks are a control mech. Mask wearing is strictly a way to control the virus. It stops you from doing nothing.
Yeah i remember trump had to have his signature on that first check. Funny Biden didnt feel the need to play so low or claim credit even tho he passed a 1.9 trillion relief bill.
https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/coronavirus

Educate your self on the not 4 trillion dollar bipartisan Infrastructure plan.
https://www.postbulletin.com/opinion...infrastructure.
So Biden and trump both worked to get Americans out of foreign wars, win/win. no problem.

The USA has the highest cost of healthcare in the world. We have no where near the top in treatment and over all health. We need to remove the middle man. The USA, for all its greatness and wealth is the only developed country in the world that does not have some type of universal healthcare. That puts us on the list along with China, Iran, South Africa, Nigeria, Pakistan, Yemen, and many other S-hole countries. Congrats.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

We spend a ton on "green energy". How do you suppose you keep the lights on at night btw? You leftist have pretty much tried to kill nuclear energy from the start. I don't think you realize how big this country is and how many different climates we have.

With pumped hydro and batteries. You have already disqualified yourself from intelligent energy talk after not understanding the difference between kW and kWhr. I'm a big supporter of new nuclear also BTW, so wrong again.

Here is a nice little montage of hiden biden and his mouthpieces condemning the vaccine for months.


https://www.instagram.com/tv/CSMjpRr...dium=copy_link


Yea. You know…….saying you can’t trust the government.

Tha vaccines out now have been thorougly tested and billions of people have gotten them. The ones we have in the U.S. have proven to be effective. It's a fact that the vast majority of those hospitalized for Covid are unvaccinated people. Stop bringing up idiotic crap from the past from before what we NOW know and get the vaccine! Why in the hell would someone not get it with everything we now know!?!? Do some of you just dig your heels in, refuse to look at the facts or what?

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

fair enough but latching on that Republicans are tooling Cuban America is political wish wash. JFK tried to kill Castro and he was a democrat. Cuban America can see for their own eyes which political party is least like the one they left in Cuba and that is the Republican party. If the Cuban Americans believed as you do that their families only needed your tourism, they would vote democrat.

What you generally described is trickle down economics.

Aren't we free to go to Haiti? They are still poor.

I get what you are saying about if they start living of the teet of tourism, that we could possibly start bribing them. It is basically what china does to use only in reverse. Didn't obama lift sanctions on Cuba as far as American travel? If he did, it does not seem to have worked out.

JFK was 60 years ago. If Republicans aren't tooling Cuban Americans then what are they doing? Trump reinstated bans in 2017. Everyone lives off some teet, and not sure what tourists would be bribing them to do. But bribes are pretty common in a poor society.

So far the argument is that tourism would do nothing. So why did Trump feel a need to reinstate a ban that does nothing? Why is Trump denying Americans freedom and in return accomplish nothing? That question succinctly describes my point.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Im a long time landlord. It always costs more when you have to evict. Its a better bet to work with your tenant and apply for the assistance. Ive done this with just one of my tenants. That way you get paid the money congress approved. Its better to think of this as a way for landlords to get rent money rather than a way for a tenant to not pay rent. Evicting gets you zero back rent, like shooting yourself in the foot. You may get a judgement for the cash but thats worthless. Ask me how i know. I lost no tenants since the start of covid, have not lost a penny in rent. I had a few get late but that was early 2019 during the only actual close down. They caught up within 30 days and been on track since. Biden said, even as he made the call, the courts will over turn but this will buy time. You are thinking about the "deadbeats" and getting emotional, understandable because its real $$. The way to get your rent money is to apply for the relief money if the tenant cant pay. If a tenant isnt paying to be an azz, then of course you will eliminate them when time is right....but get your $$ while you can.

You give a nice little strawman story . Unfortunately your story isn’t the norm and I bet if you polled anyone of us in here who owned property and one of our legit renters was couple months late due unforeseen circumstances and was willing to work together to have a plan none of us would be evicting any of them. Of course your solution is based on the government bailing people out and paying their bills. And not on the actual renter being a responsible party.


The norm/majority of the people this law is protecting as pointed out in the latest data set are the millions of deadbeats that have zero intention of paying anything and are living rent free in someone else’s property for over 6 months with zero recourse. Of course you lose money evicting someone. The process is awful , it’s usually ugly, and you’re in a rock and hard place , But once again you’re logic is flawed because you can’t step outside your basement to the reality of the rest of what’s going on. . Any logical property owner presented with your scenario would most likely understand and give some leeway, take advantage of the programs being offered to recoup monetarily. It’s definitely not worth evicting someone for short term missed payments. But if you didn’t get rent for 6 mos -year from a deadbeat there is no way evicting them isn’t better financially for you In the long term. You cut your loss and move on. You don’t keep double down and losing more. Well unless you’re a democrat . Because everyone deserves free handouts.

The problem is once again the dummycrats just blanket everyone under one sweeping bill of free money, rather then formulate a very direct streamlined process that requires people to meet certain criteria before the eviction exception applies. People should have to show that they have consistently made payments have been a “good tenant” and are simply falling under distress in which the program is designed for. It’s should t apply to every deadbeat with a sweeping national policy. It should be case based . The eviction process needs a complete overhaul and the time/money associated with it could be condensed greatly,but once again nobody wants to call a POS a POS The property owners have less rights then their tenants. Explain how thats fair………amd this law extends that gap to the tenants

Originally Posted by brettw

Tha vaccines out now have been thorougly tested and billions of people have gotten them. The ones we have in the U.S. have proven to be effective. It's a fact that the vast majority of those hospitalized for Covid are unvaccinated people. Stop bringing up idiotic crap from the past from before what we NOW know and get the vaccine! Why in the hell would someone not get it with everything we now know!?!? Do some of you just dig your heels in, refuse to look at the facts or what?

None of us know what we don’t know now, do we? It’s a gamble no matter which way you decide to go. I continue to exist on the fence about it. I think I share the same concerns as most people do about it. It hasn’t been out long and we don’t know the long term effects. Production was rushed. You have to sign your life away if you take it and too bad if it kills you. I just read through a 325 page list of people who died after receiving the Pfizer vaccine. I have an aunt who is 70 that has been sick ever since she took her second Moderna shot 7-8 months ago. I have another aunt and uncle in their early 70’s who are currently fighting COVID and were not vaccinated. My daughter caught it from them after visiting them 10 days ago. She is now doing well and was never vaccinated. I still don’t know anyone who has died from it. My buddy’s wife got COVID last year and still suffers in various ways from it, but she’s a hefty 230 pounder that wears a bigger life jacket than me. Lol Lots to think about.

The biggest problems I have are I feel I can’t get unbiased, honest information from any source that doesn’t have an agenda. That goes for all sides. The closest reporting to being unbiased lately is from Fox. (Big surprise right?) Their whole thing seems to be pushing for the freedom to chose while doing the wink wink it’s still best to get vaccinated. I also don’t like being forced to do anything and have no trust in the biggest mouths who are pushing it. It’s a really personal decision that one has to make on their own-without coercion from others.

Originally Posted by markj

None of us know what we don’t know now, do we? It’s a gamble no matter which way you decide to go. I continue to exist on the fence about it. I think I share the same concerns as most people do about it. It hasn’t been out long and we don’t know the long term effects. Production was rushed. You have to sign your life away if you take it and too bad if it kills you. I just read through a 325 page list of people who died after receiving the Pfizer vaccine. I have an aunt who is 70 that has been sick ever since she took her second Moderna shot 7-8 months ago. I have another aunt and uncle in their early 70’s who are currently fighting COVID and were not vaccinated. My daughter caught it from them after visiting them 10 days ago. She is now doing well and was never vaccinated. I still don’t know anyone who has died from it. My buddy’s wife got COVID last year and still suffers in various ways from it, but she’s a hefty 230 pounder that wears a bigger life jacket than me. Lol Lots to think about.

The biggest problems I have are I feel I can’t get unbiased, honest information from any source that doesn’t have an agenda. That goes for all sides. The closest reporting to being unbiased lately is from Fox. (Big surprise right?) Their whole thing seems to be pushing for the freedom to chose while doing the wink wink it’s still best to get vaccinated. I also don’t like being forced to do anything and have no trust in the biggest mouths who are pushing it. It’s a really personal decision that one has to make on their own-without coercion from others.

It isnt too difficult to get unbiased info or facts. The fact is almost everyone in hospitals or dying is unvaccinated (99%). Thats it. All you need to know. This is now a pandemic only for the unvaccinated. The numbers are the same in every state, all the people sick and dying are unvaccinated. Your not really on the fence, your heels are dug into the ground and you are pushing against the benefits as hard as you can, with your anti mask habits, taking others down with you. Everyone inviting you to get vaccinated IS already vaccinated. Vaccines will be FDA approved by Labor Day. Then what are you going to say? My Freedumb?
https://apnews.com/article/health-co...fed849e207baad

CDC publishes all the data regarding reactions.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-1...ogenicity.html
or, you could watch Dr. Red Pills utube channel.

Originally Posted by xstarrider

You give a nice little strawman story . Unfortunately your story isn’t the norm and I bet if you polled anyone of us in here who owned property and one of our legit renters was couple months late due unforeseen circumstances and was willing to work together to have a plan none of us would be evicting any of them. Of course your solution is based on the government bailing people out and paying their bills. And not on the actual renter being a responsible party.

None of this relates to sn95's original point. The eviction ban and govt subsidies aren't his solution. He was saying that it's smarter as a landlord to take advantage of the program than to try and fight the eviction ban in court. He was replying to a post that was essentially saying something stupid. If the govt is going to take away your property rights under the guise of emergency measures then it makes sense that you should be compensated. Whether the govt should be doing this is secondary to the conversion and is not being addressed directly. I don't really see Republicans fighting the eviction ban as much as they fight mask wearing. Not even remotely close.

Originally Posted by markj

None of us know what we don’t know now, do we? It’s a gamble no matter which way you decide to go.

Gambles are not all equal. A coin toss is 50/50 and a lottery ticket is one in millions. The evidence here is gambling on not getting the vaccine is a bad bet.

Originally Posted by 95sn

It isnt too difficult to get unbiased info or facts. The fact is almost everyone in hospitals or dying is unvaccinated (99%). Thats it. All you need to know. This is now a pandemic only for the unvaccinated. The numbers are the same in every state, all the people sick and dying are unvaccinated. Your not really on the fence, your heels are dug into the ground and you are pushing against the benefits as hard as you can, with your anti mask habits, taking others down with you. Everyone inviting you to get vaccinated IS already vaccinated. Vaccines will be FDA approved by Labor Day. Then what are you going to say? My Freedumb?
https://apnews.com/article/health-co...fed849e207baad

CDC publishes all the data regarding reactions.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-1...ogenicity.html
or, you could watch Dr. Red Pills utube channel.

Don’t tell me “that’s all I need to know,” prick. I DECIDE WHAT I NEED TO KNOW. You couldn’t sound more like a typical totalitarian libtard with that narrative-driven, stupid response. I want to know how many people have been injured or killed by the vaccines. Good luck finding that. As far as unvaccinated being the ones in the hospital, that seems like a no brainer, but what are their comorbidities? How many are there with zero comorbidities? What is those same people’s death rate once they hit the hospital? Is it the same old, fat and diabetic people dying? How many of them contracted it from vaccinated people? See? My heels aren’t dug in. Sorry that ruins your libtard narrative. I’m just doing my due diligence and asking tough questions as I should. You just can’t take anyone challenging your opinion without getting defensive. The only place I’d want my heels dug in are into your skull. I’m searching for truth. Not a narrative.

Originally Posted by fly135

Gambles are not all equal. A coin toss is 50/50 and a lottery ticket is one in millions. The evidence here is gambling on not getting the vaccine is a bad bet.

Noted. I’m just looking to discover the actual value of the other side of the coin without some as$hole telling to “just take my medicine.”

Originally Posted by markj

Don’t tell me “that’s all I need to know,” prick. I DECIDE WHAT I NEED TO KNOW. You couldn’t sound more like a typical totalitarian libtard with that narrative-driven, stupid response. I want to know how many people have been injured or killed by the vaccines. Good luck finding that. As far as unvaccinated being the ones in the hospital, that seems like a no brainer, but what are their comorbidities? How many are there with zero comorbidities? What is those same people’s death rate once they hit the hospital? Is it the same old, fat and diabetic people dying? How many of them contracted it from vaccinated people? See? My heels aren’t dug in. Sorry that ruins your libtard narrative. I’m just doing my due diligence and asking tough questions as I should. You just can’t take anyone challenging your opinion without getting defensive. The only place I’d want my heels dug in are into your skull. I’m searching for truth. Not a narrative.

99+% is the virtual definition of total. You have decided youre better off a a 1%er. Mr. Pragmatic.

Originally Posted by 95sn

99+% is the virtual definition of total. You have decided youre better off a a 1%er. Mr. Pragmatic.

You can’t answer any of my questions. All you can do is stick to the narrative, parrot talking points and follow like a Brown Shirt. I may have already had kung flu back in November when I had a low grade fever and a cough for a couple days. Smell and taste were unaffected. I’d also like to know if it’s too late for me to get tested for antibodies. What are the stats for people getting reinfected after having kung flu once? Does usually hit harder the second time? Lots more questions. I’m sure the answers are all outside of your pre-recorded response capabilities.

Originally Posted by markj

You can’t answer any of my questions. All you can do is stick to the narrative, parrot talking points and follow like a Brown Shirt. I may have already had kung flu back in November when I had a low grade fever and a cough for a couple days. Smell and taste were unaffected. I’d also like to know if it’s too late for me to get tested for antibodies. What are the stats for people getting reinfected after having kung flu once? Does usually hit harder the second time? Lots more questions. I’m sure the answers are all outside of your pre-recorded response capabilities.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...rotection.html

If you would just become a statistic this website could improve dramatically. Or...
https://i.redd.it/3nvslwuw8xf71.jpg

Visited the pharmacy today. There was a line for the jabs, first time ive seen a line for several months. This is a good sign for my community.
In other places, not so good. Anyone have ANY idea why this group would be cheering a lack of vaccines? Hmmm. Where could they possibly get this bad info??? must be the Evil MSM's.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...ie-taylor?rl=1

Originally Posted by 95sn

If you would just become a statistic this website could improve dramatically. Or...
https://i.redd.it/3nvslwuw8xf71.jpg

Visited the pharmacy today. There was a line for the jabs, first time ive seen a line for several months. This is a good sign for my community.
In other places, not so good. Anyone have ANY idea why this group would be cheering a lack of vaccines? Hmmm. Where could they possibly get this bad info??? must be the Evil MSM's.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...ie-taylor?rl=1

As$hole, I’m not anti-vax like you’ve been lying and saying. If I was, I certainly wouldn’t be coming back here multiple times asking everyone questions. I’m actually pretty close to getting it, but I want my questions answered. You’ve answered none of them. I also said there’s a chance I may have already had it and might have antibodies. I’m currently looking into where to get tested near my hood.

Originally Posted by markj

As$hole, I’m not anti-vax like you’ve been lying and saying. If I was, I certainly wouldn’t be coming back here multiple times asking everyone questions. I’m actually pretty close to getting it, but I want my questions answered. You’ve answered none of them. I also said there’s a chance I may have already had it and might have antibodies. I’m currently looking into where to get tested near my hood.

I actually did toss out the olive branch of info on your question. Perhaps you missed the link.

In today’s MMWR, a study of COVID-19 infections in Kentucky among people who were previously infected with SAR-CoV-2 shows that unvaccinated individuals are more than twice as likely to be reinfected with COVID-19 than those who were fully vaccinated after initially contracting the virus. These data further indicate that COVID-19 vaccines offer better protection than natural immunity alone and that vaccines, even after prior infection, help prevent reinfections.

“If you have had COVID-19 before, please still get vaccinated,” said CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky. “This study shows you are twice as likely to get infected again if you are unvaccinated. Getting the vaccine is the best way to protect yourself and others around you, especially as the more contagious Delta variant spreads around the country.”

Originally Posted by markj

Don’t tell me “that’s all I need to know,” prick. I DECIDE WHAT I NEED TO KNOW. You couldn’t sound more like a typical totalitarian libtard with that narrative-driven, stupid response. I want to know how many people have been injured or killed by the vaccines. Good luck finding that. As far as unvaccinated being the ones in the hospital, that seems like a no brainer, but what are their comorbidities? How many are there with zero comorbidities? What is those same people’s death rate once they hit the hospital? Is it the same old, fat and diabetic people dying? How many of them contracted it from vaccinated people? See? My heels aren’t dug in. Sorry that ruins your libtard narrative. I’m just doing my due diligence and asking tough questions as I should. You just can’t take anyone challenging your opinion without getting defensive. The only place I’d want my heels dug in are into your skull. I’m searching for truth. Not a narrative.

Fair enough, I just looked in to a lot of these questions as i just got mine done.
1. Risk factors for getting the jab is extremely low, 100x less than not getting the jab. Yes the chance of getting sick , hospitalized or dying from covid is low, the chance of getting sick and dying from getting the vaccine is more than 100x less

2. Beyond the guilt of getting the virus and giving it to someone who dies, The rational reason to get vaccinated is not for your personal risk but for societies risk.

3. If you want to avoid the economic and mental health damage of lockdowns then get vaccinated, it's one of few things you can do personally to reduce the governments eagerness to lock things down.

Originally Posted by markj

How many of them contracted it from vaccinated people? See? My heels aren’t dug in. Sorry that ruins your libtard narrative. I’m just doing my due diligence and asking tough questions as I should.

So I've had six vaxxed libtard friends contract covid in the past three weeks. One of them died on Friday. Two of them definitely contracted covid from one of them.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

So I've had six vaxxed libtard friends contract covid in the past three weeks. One of them died on Friday. Two of them definitely contracted covid from one of them.

Wow. Sorry for your loss. Do I understand you correctly? Six of your vaccinated friends got it and one of them died despite being vaccinated??? If so, what were the comorbidities? That sounds like a poster for NOT getting the vaccine.

Originally Posted by markj

Wow. Sorry for your loss. Do I understand you correctly? Six of your vaccinated friends got it and one of them died despite being vaccinated??? If so, what were the comorbidities? That sounds like a poster for NOT getting the vaccine.

Not really anecdotes does not equal data and doesn't indicate how many unvaccinated people died over the same time frame.

Originally Posted by markj

Wow. Sorry for your loss. Do I understand you correctly? Six of your vaccinated friends got it and one of them died despite being vaccinated??? If so, what were the comorbidities? That sounds like a poster for NOT getting the vaccine.

The guy who died was a walking comorbidities time bomb, and his passing is sad but not particularly surprising, all things considered.

Good news is that my wife and I (both also vaxxed), had substantial exposure to several of these individuals and have tested negative.

Can you explain your logic on how my anecdote suggests you shouldn't get the vax?

Originally Posted by ralph

Not really anecdotes does not equal data and doesn't indicate how many unvaccinated people died over the same time frame.

If our gov's data is to be believed, my deceased friend was the first vaxxed delta death in NV.

It just seems to me those questions have been pretty well answered. It's not that hard to research. This has all been said already, but the numbers tell the truth. Don't listen to the one-offs - well my relative/buddy this and that, b.s., blah blah blah. Look at the overall numbers. Reactions to the jab are minimal - nothing compared to those with long term affects from COVID. Looking at those hospitalized and the majority of people getting COVID, this really is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. The unvaccinated are the ones keeping this thing going. If you're worried about any possible side affects of the jab, just look at the numbers and possible side affects of getting COVID. There's story after story out there about the unvaccinated getting COVID and having long term symptoms or worse banging their heads on the wall saying they should of got the jab. It's okay to be skeptical, but just try not to be one of those people that's kind of dug their feet in and doesn't want to change their mind based on more new evidence.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

TCan you explain your logic on how my anecdote suggests you shouldn't get the vax?

Your anecdote suggests there is no point in getting vaccinated.

Originally Posted by fly135

Your anecdote suggests there is no point in getting vaccinated.

Does it? If half of the population of the state is vaccinated, and 30 people in the state have died from delta, and 1 was vaccinated, doesn’t that suggest that being vaccinated greatly increases your chances of not being in the dead pool?

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

Does it? If half of the population of the state is vaccinated, and 30 people in the state have died from delta, and 1 was vaccinated, doesn’t that suggest that being vaccinated greatly increases your chances of not being in the dead pool?

Maybe you should reread your post....

"So I've had six vaxxed libtard friends contract covid in the past three weeks. One of them died on Friday."


Unless "vaxxed' is slang for unvaccinated, I'm not getting it.

Originally Posted by fly135

Maybe you should reread your post....

"So I've had six vaxxed libtard friends contract covid in the past three weeks. One of them died on Friday."


Unless "vaxxed' is slang for unvaccinated, I'm not getting it.

Bingo.

Originally Posted by fly135

None of this relates to sn95's original point. The eviction ban and govt subsidies aren't his solution. He was saying that it's smarter as a landlord to take advantage of the program than to try and fight the eviction ban in court. He was replying to a post that was essentially saying something stupid. If the govt is going to take away your property rights under the guise of emergency measures then it makes sense that you should be compensated. Whether the govt should be doing this is secondary to the conversion and is not being addressed directly. I don't really see Republicans fighting the eviction ban as much as they fight mask wearing. Not even remotely close.

I think you need to re reread his paragraph , because you’re making inferences off facts and ideas that were not stated . His first line stated . Im a long time landlord. It always costs more when you have to evict. Its a better bet to work with your tenant and apply for the assistance. and then a later stated . Evicting gets you zero back rent, like shooting yourself in the foot. You may get a judgement for the cash but thats worthless



That’s not pertaining to the law put in place at the moment. The argument.being made here was that the eviction law preventing property owners from eviction. Is complete utter bull****. His story was in response to that law in its defense.

Originally Posted by brettw

It just seems to me those questions have been pretty well answered. It's not that hard to research. This has all been said already, but the numbers tell the truth. Don't listen to the one-offs - well my relative/buddy this and that, b.s., blah blah blah. Look at the overall numbers. Reactions to the jab are minimal - nothing compared to those with long term affects from COVID. Looking at those hospitalized and the majority of people getting COVID, this really is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. The unvaccinated are the ones keeping this thing going. If you're worried about any possible side affects of the jab, just look at the numbers and possible side affects of getting COVID. There's story after story out there about the unvaccinated getting COVID and having long term symptoms or worse banging their heads on the wall saying they should of got the jab. It's okay to be skeptical, but just try not to be one of those people that's kind of dug their feet in and doesn't want to change their mind based on more new evidence.

If you’re sure they’re answered, that should mean you know the answers. Let’s hear em. I’m listening. Also, I’m not swayed by small, anecdotal stories. I’m 100% open to facts. I can’t seem to find the facts on the death rate of the delta variant. I’ve heard it’s FAR less lethal than the original kung flu which only killed .08% of its victims and most of those folks all had major comorbidities right?

Originally Posted by 95sn

This just in, more BS from Starguy talking about that which he knows nothing, what he does best.
The birthday bash for the former President was previously planned to be held outside and follow all US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention public health protocols, with testing for guests and a Covid safety coordinator on site, a source had told CNN earlier this week.
More than 400 guests, including celebrities and former Obama administration officials, were reportedly expected to attend the affair, along with nearly 200 hired staff working the party.
But now, the celebration for Obama, who turns 60 on Wednesday, will be only be for family and close friends.

Well. Looks like once again the facts line up with my post and you are owned by the bull**** you spew from your party. Was a great spin job by the media masters , but the photos don’t lie . It’s not an “outdoor “ party if it’s contained inside a tent. I am sure those have great ventilation. But wait they were all wearing masks right? Ohhhhh. That didn’t happen happen either. For **** sake Obama wasn’t wearing one,

Whoops^^^

Did they ever get a final tally of Obummer’s super spreader event?

Originally Posted by 95sn

ok, show the Biden admins policy that pushes CRT. Same for BLM. Are you saying you dont want Biden to send migrants to their families who will support them? You want the Govt to do that too? Would you like them all in CA? TX? We will be begging for labor very soon, economy depends on it.
Crime stats are increasing in every state, red states worse than blue.
I.

1). Their not migrants. They’re illegals , they belong shipped back to their country of origin. And dropped at the border.


2 ) show the crime stats that prove your claim , because I for sure have all the crime stats that show the complete opposite. The only red areas in which crime is skyrocketing are the red areas that have recently seen leftist Marxist be put into office as mayors or states Atty’s in their areas.


Harris and Biden hosted multiple events supporting BLM , for ****s sake he had a ****bags family at his inauguration further peddling the BLM narrative. There is no denying CRT is being pushed from the left. Anyone who says different needs a lobotomy. Show me once where Biden has condemned it or spoken out against its teachings ? After all isn’t that the standard the left likes to employ. If you’re not against it you’re for it.

Originally Posted by brettw

Tha vaccines out now have been thorougly tested and billions of people have gotten them. The ones we have in the U.S. have proven to be effective. It's a fact that the vast majority of those hospitalized for Covid are unvaccinated people. Stop bringing up idiotic crap from the past from before what we NOW know and get the vaccine! Why in the hell would someone not get it with everything we now know!?!? Do some of you just dig your heels in, refuse to look at the facts or what?

Here’s a fact , if you’re not obese , not over 60 and don’t have pre existing condition you have less than 1/10th of a percent of dying from covid and and less than 1-100th of a percent of dying from D variant.

No reason to force something so new on anyone and blanket the entire country.
Helmets on Motorcycles save lives , Plenty of states without helmet mandates that’s have better death toll statistics than the ones with helmet requirements. Not too mention plenty of individuals who don’t wear helmets while riding even though they do reduce the risk. It’s called a personal choice.

Originally Posted by xstarrider

1). Their not migrants. They’re illegals , they belong shipped back to their country of origin. And dropped at the border.


2 ) show the crime stats that prove your claim , because I for sure have all the crime stats that show the complete opposite. The only red areas in which crime is skyrocketing are the red areas that have recently seen leftist Marxist be put into office as mayors or states Atty’s in their areas.


Harris and Biden hosted multiple events supporting BLM , for ****s sake he had a ****bags family at his inauguration further peddling the BLM narrative. There is no denying CRT is being pushed from the left. Anyone who says different needs a lobotomy. Show me once where Biden has condemned it or spoken out against its teachings ? After all isn’t that the standard the left likes to employ. If you’re not against it you’re for it.

Preach it! So much ownership shown in that post. That was a 1,2,3 strikes you’re out for 95 again. Lol

Here’s a much better view. Not a single mask in sight at the dems shindig. There’s those guidelines they’re forcing on full display.

Originally Posted by xstarrider

Here’s a much better view. Not a single mask in sight at the dems shindig. There’s those guidelines they’re forcing on full display.


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Huh, that's the problem you have with Obama? The birthday was in a tent so technically "outside" and they are not required to wear masks. But whatever, that photo looks like one of the weddings he done striked, that's bit of a bigger problem for me.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

Does it? If half of the population of the state is vaccinated, and 30 people in the state have died from delta, and 1 was vaccinated, doesn’t that suggest that being vaccinated greatly increases your chances of not being in the dead pool?

Your not understanding "freedom logic". A person dies while wearing a seat belt in a car crash, I'm never wearing a seat belt again!

Originally Posted by ralph

Your not understanding "freedom logic". A person dies while wearing a seat belt in a car crash, I'm never wearing a seat belt again!

People, press the pause button. I know what happened here. Shawn got into 95’s stash. Just wait. He’ll pull out of it. Hope he doesn’t suffer the dain bramage 95 clearly has.

Originally Posted by ralph

Huh, that's the problem you have with Obama? The birthday was in a tent so technically "outside" and they are not required to wear masks. But whatever, that photo looks like one of the weddings he done striked, that's bit of a bigger problem for me.

COVID tents, which is really just hot boxing the Kung flu, (had to throw that term in there for the resident stoner, 95) are physically the world record holding largest form of virtue signaling of all time.

Originally Posted by xstarrider

Here’s a fact , if you’re not obese , not over 60 and don’t have pre existing condition you have less than 1/10th of a percent of dying from covid and and less than 1-100th of a percent of dying from D variant.

No reason to force something so new on anyone and blanket the entire country.
Helmets on Motorcycles save lives , Plenty of states without helmet mandates that’s have better death toll statistics than the ones with helmet requirements. Not too mention plenty of individuals who don’t wear helmets while riding even though they do reduce the risk. It’s called a personal choice.

You keep talking about dying. Yes, we all know it's a small %. What about long COVID? The FACT is that most people hospitalized for COVID are unvaccineated. The adverse effects from the vaccine are minimal. Getting COVID is far worse. Why in the hell wouldn't you protect yourself with the vaccine? Unvaccinated people are keeping COVID going.

Originally Posted by brettw

You keep talking about dying. Yes, we all know it's a small %. What about long COVID? The FACT is that most people hospitalized for COVID are unvaccineated. The adverse effects from the vaccine are minimal. Getting COVID is far worse. Why in the hell wouldn't you protect yourself with the vaccine? Unvaccinated people are keeping COVID going.

According to Shawn, vaccinated people in his circle are keeping it going. Still waiting for clarification after he comes back from that 95sn high.

Originally Posted by markj

According to Shawn, vaccinated people in his circle are keeping it going. Still waiting for clarification after he comes back from that 95sn high.

The context of my prior post was your comment that *you* can't get covid from vaxxed people. That's not true to the extent that vaxxed folks get sick. Vaxxed folks are much less likely to get infected, but once they do get sick, they are contagious. So your vax is important for you to prevent you from getting covid. You can't necessarily rely on the herd in this instance.

In NV 30 people have died from delta variant infections. AFAIK, all of them were unvaxxed, other than my friend. That said, unless you have congestive heart failure, have been on oxygen for the past four years, and have mild dementia, your equating his situation to yours is at your peril. Covid sure did push him over the edge, but it wasn't the vax's fault... more his utterly defeated immune system.

Originally Posted by brettw

You keep talking about dying. Yes, we all know it's a small %. What about long COVID? The FACT is that most people hospitalized for COVID are unvaccineated. The adverse effects from the vaccine are minimal. Getting COVID is far worse. Why in the hell wouldn't you protect yourself with the vaccine? Unvaccinated people are keeping COVID going.

This.

Originally Posted by xstarrider

I think you need to re reread his paragraph , because you’re making inferences off facts and ideas that were not stated . His first line stated . Im a long time landlord. It always costs more when you have to evict. Its a better bet to work with your tenant and apply for the assistance. and then a later stated . Evicting gets you zero back rent, like shooting yourself in the foot. You may get a judgement for the cash but thats worthless



That’s not pertaining to the law put in place at the moment. The argument.being made here was that the eviction law preventing property owners from eviction. Is complete utter bull****. His story was in response to that law in its defense.

You need to reread yourself.

"That’s not pertaining to the law put in place at the moment."

"apply for the assistance"

I'm reading that as apply for the assistance that is the law in place at the moment. In Florida only a small percentage of the assistance provided by the Fed is being distributed by the state. At least partly because landlords aren't following through on applying for it.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/real-e...al-assistance/

I think we might need to press a reset button because there may be certain things incorrectly implied/inferred that the other person doesn’t get. Then then that gets compounded by others trying to interpret it which adds another layer of confusion.

Republicans that refuse the vaccines and then get Covid for some strange reason choose go to hospitals. A hospital is a place where these people dont trust or believe a thing the nurses and doctors have been saying for months. Why? Why the change of mind?
And then when they get really sick, they beg for the vaccine. Why?
Is there any other source other than FOX, Newsmax and the like that are still anti vax? Anyone?
Seems an insurance company may be making some coverage decision changes in the near future, like you dont get vaccinated, you pay your own bill. Business will lead the way to vax card admission back into life.
One of my best friends, my painter, a trump rally attendee and anti vaxer got covid about 10 days ago. He is an athlete. It kicked his azz, he was in bed for 5 days, lost 12 lbs, rash all over his body, cant taste food....Ive never seen him sick a single day in over 25 years. Once out of bed he never quarantined himself or wore a mask. He refused to get tested too. He infected his girlfriend who had breast cancer last year. She ended up in the hospital for 5 days. Even his/our other trump voting friends are pissed at him for infecting who knows how many more people we dont know. This is precisely how covid gets worse, what doesnt kill you ....mutates and comes back to try again. He is on the shun list right now. Hey mark, Guess its his body, his freedom, his choice to infect everyone in range.
Get your Fing shot fools.

Originally Posted by xstarrider

Here’s a fact , if you’re not obese , not over 60 and don’t have pre existing condition you have less than 1/10th of a percent of dying from covid and and less than 1-100th of a percent of dying from D variant.

No reason to force something so new on anyone and blanket the entire country.
Helmets on Motorcycles save lives , Plenty of states without helmet mandates that’s have better death toll statistics than the ones with helmet requirements. Not too mention plenty of individuals who don’t wear helmets while riding even though they do reduce the risk. It’s called a personal choice.

I agree 100%. Tonight after i drink a 12 pak, im going drag racing. Its called personal choice.

Maybe think about others A-hole. There are obese people, there are people with heart conditions, there are people that are older, there are people with health conditions out of their control. But your personal choice and you are the only important one. Way to sacrifice Patriot!!

Originally Posted by 95sn

Republicans that refuse the vaccines and then get Covid for some strange reason choose go to hospitals. A hospital is a place where these people dont trust or believe a thing the nurses and doctors have been saying for months. Why? Why the change of mind?
And then when they get really sick, they beg for the vaccine. Why?
Is there any other source other than FOX, Newsmax and the like that are still anti vax? Anyone?
Seems an insurance company may be making some coverage decision changes in the near future, like you dont get vaccinated, you pay your own bill. Business will lead the way to vax card admission back into life.
One of my best friends, my painter, a trump rally attendee and anti vaxer got covid about 10 days ago. He is an athlete. It kicked his azz, he was in bed for 5 days, lost 12 lbs, rash all over his body, cant taste food....Ive never seen him sick a single day in over 25 years. Once out of bed he never quarantined himself or wore a mask. He refused to get tested too. He infected his girlfriend who had breast cancer last year. She ended up in the hospital for 5 days. Even his/our other trump voting friends are pissed at him for infecting who knows how many more people we dont know. This is precisely how covid gets worse, what doesnt kill you ....mutates and comes back to try again. He is on the shun list right now. Hey mark, Guess its his body, his freedom, his choice to infect everyone in range.
Get your Fing shot fools.

The big questions here are: Why can’t you leave other people alone? It’s just like the TDS you can’t shake.

Why do you keep lying about what Fox et al say?

You are who your friends are. Thanks for telling us the story and proving who you are. Anyone who would knowingly do what your bestie did should be pummeled. Just like you. After the quarantine period, of course.

Originally Posted by markj

The big questions here are: Why can’t you leave other people alone? It’s just like the TDS you can’t shake.

Why do you keep lying about what Fox et al say?

You are who your friends are. Thanks for telling us the story and proving who you are. Anyone who would knowingly do what your bestie did should be pummeled. Just like you. After the quarantine period, of course.

The only question is, Why are you not vaccinated? Are you healthy? Then you have no reason not to do the right thing.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tuck...-johnson-pause

As you do the exact same thing, for the exact same reasons. You are a fool.