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Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-31-2021, 3:30 PM Reply   
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Srsly Doug where do you get your news? So much almost-but-not-quite-right in your three sentences there.

(weekly FREE testing for unvaxxed is ending October 11) From the failing NYT: "Starting Oct. 11, when the changes take effect, the tests will continue to be available at no charge for people under 18, pregnant women or others who have medical reasons not to get vaccinated."
I didn't say, there would be not test available, they are not going to be testing people unless they are "medical need" So there's not going to be test, test test, unless the patient in in moderate to sever illness. So no more data charts, no more trending.

I believe Dr john Cambell, youtube doc spoke of this as well.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-31-2021, 3:45 PM Reply   
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I didn't say, there would be not test available, they are not going to be testing people unless they are "medical need" So there's not going to be test, test test, unless the patient in in moderate to sever illness. So no more data charts, no more trending.

I believe Dr john Cambell, youtube doc spoke of this as well.
Your "Doctor" is a nurse with a phD.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       08-31-2021, 4:33 PM Reply   
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I didn't say, there would be not test available, they are not going to be testing people unless they are "medical need" So there's not going to be test, test test, unless the patient in in moderate to sever illness. So no more data charts, no more trending.

I believe Dr john Cambell, youtube doc spoke of this as well.

No you misunderstand. They were testing *everyone* weekly, symptoms or not. Not just symptomatic people like we do in the US.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-31-2021, 4:51 PM Reply   
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No you misunderstand. They were testing *everyone* weekly, symptoms or not. Not just symptomatic people like we do in the US.
I didn't misunderstand, Germany has been the best at testing everyone, with some routine. but as delta is taking over, and people are getting covid, vaccinated or not, they are cutting testing for those who are truly in need. Hence, the testing is becoming moot, as its spreading at a rate that no long merits stats. So, without writing a paper, my point is, that testing, positivity rates, percentages are now becoming moot, as the delta explodes in every country.

Similar to the flu, if you are sick, stay home, unless you are very sick, then when you go to the doctor or hospital, they flu test. Covid will become the same, if it hasn't already.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       08-31-2021, 6:02 PM Reply   
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I didn't misunderstand, Germany has been the best at testing everyone, with some routine. but as delta is taking over, and people are getting covid, vaccinated or not, they are cutting testing for those who are truly in need. Hence, the testing is becoming moot, as its spreading at a rate that no long merits stats. So, without writing a paper, my point is, that testing, positivity rates, percentages are now becoming moot, as the delta explodes in every country.

Similar to the flu, if you are sick, stay home, unless you are very sick, then when you go to the doctor or hospital, they flu test. Covid will become the same, if it hasn't already.
They do have flu tests but never tested in my life for it. Get it every year pretty much though.

Even Faucci has pretty much said we can not get heard immunity. Even if everyone in the US has the vaccine which again is for spike proteins and not covid, the rest of the world will never be fully vaccinated. Delta is from South America and they are talking other variants already. Almost like this thing was made in a lab to attack humans? hmmm.....
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       09-01-2021, 3:56 AM Reply   
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Delta is from South America and.....
India is in south asia.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       09-01-2021, 5:04 AM Reply   
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India is in south asia.
guess what, delta is everywhere, and its stupid to think it matters at this point. You want to have a real argument, make the chinese vomit the truth. Everyone is so afraid of finding the truth, because once it comes out, there will be a world war.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       09-01-2021, 5:25 AM Reply   
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guess what, delta is everywhere, and its stupid to think it matters at this point. You want to have a real argument, make the chinese vomit the truth. Everyone is so afraid of finding the truth, because once it comes out, there will be a world war.
I agree with you, Doug. The only person who had balls big enough to even call them out on their crap is Trump. That’s why they released this bio weapon.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       09-01-2021, 7:52 AM Reply   
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India is in south asia.
Yes and?

Though I did hear a very liberal white woman argue with an woman of Indian decent that Indians are not Asian.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       09-01-2021, 8:14 AM Reply   
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Yes and?

Though I did hear a very liberal white woman argue with an woman of Indian decent that Indians are not Asian.
Did the liberal white woman claim that India was in South America, or is that just a conservative thing?
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       09-01-2021, 3:34 AM Reply   
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I didn't misunderstand, Germany has been the best at testing everyone, with some routine. but as delta is taking over, and people are getting covid, vaccinated or not, they are cutting testing for those who are truly in need. Hence, the testing is becoming moot, as its spreading at a rate that no long merits stats. So, without writing a paper, my point is, that testing, positivity rates, percentages are now becoming moot, as the delta explodes in every country.

Similar to the flu, if you are sick, stay home, unless you are very sick, then when you go to the doctor or hospital, they flu test. Covid will become the same, if it hasn't already.

No Doug, mass testing was rolled out as a stopgap till enough vaccines were available to get everyone vaxxed (availability more limited there than here). Now, rather than subsidizing the unvaxed the government is removing the subsidy as a way to encourage folks to get vaxxed.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       09-01-2021, 4:56 AM Reply   
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No Doug, mass testing was rolled out as a stopgap till enough vaccines were available to get everyone vaxxed (availability more limited there than here). Now, rather than subsidizing the unvaxed the government is removing the subsidy as a way to encourage folks to get vaxxed.
It does not matter if you are vax'd or not, you and I and anyone vax'd is spreading it, and prob more than those who know they are sick. So you can argue, its killing people. I agree, and its sad, and I am not an anti vaxxer but the facts are the facts. its not going to stop until everyone has had it, and we are seeing mild sickness with shedding, so everyone who thinks they have a cold prob have covid and are spreading it at a rate so fast, its moot to argue "who has it"

As for the government not paying for testing, THEY HAVE SOCIALIZED HEALTH CARE! they dont pay, its free!!!!!!! so that argument is out the window. OR the socialists are going to "charge now" for the test. LOL
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       09-01-2021, 12:38 PM Reply   
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As for the government not paying for testing, THEY HAVE SOCIALIZED HEALTH CARE! they dont pay, its free!!!!!!! so that argument is out the window. OR the socialists are going to "charge now" for the test. LOL
"Free" means "you don't pay for what we offer," not "all you can eat 24/7 of all healthcare known to man." Private health insurance is offered in Germany to top off what's not covered by the state. Kinda like how the elderly in the U.S. rely on a mix of medicare and supplemental insurance.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       09-01-2021, 1:27 PM Reply   
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"Free" means "you don't pay for what we offer," not "all you can eat 24/7 of all healthcare known to man." Private health insurance is offered in Germany to top off what's not covered by the state. Kinda like how the elderly in the U.S. rely on a mix of medicare and supplemental insurance.
yes because the basic insurance in Germany is crap.

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