Wetsounds Pro 60s vs 80s

I've got a new 210 on order and am trying to decide between these two speakers. I am leaning towards the 60s because I think four 80s will be too much on the FCT2 Titan tower. It is not as large as the past Nautique towers.

Other than 2 inches in size and a little more power handling are there in differences? sound quality, etc?

What about a pair of Pro 80's on the outside and a pair of Pro 60's in the middle.

This helps with head room, limited tower width, and gives you a great full range of sound.

I've thought about that but I kinda want them to match. I'd like to see an example of that setup.

Lots of pics here:

http://www.wetsounds.com/pages/gallery/installations/nautique/nautique.html

If you go with a 2 pair setup, I'd recommend the Double Up - MB8's and Pro60's. This will give you a little more balanced sound

Im w/ tigemike on this, IMO for the money the Doubleup is the best tower speaker set up out there right now.

80's - better all around sound. Double up is great if you do a lot of surfing.

Aaron,

From your second post I'm assuming you're looking at two pair. No one should be disappointed with the SPL output of two pair of Pro60's if they're properly powered. In an open field, surface area rules so the Pro80's will deliver higher output with a little more lower midrange and midbass.

Two pair of Pro60's will provide more peak output than the Double-Up but the Double-Up combo is more linear. So if your priority is max output at 80 feet while riding with lots of noise go with two pair of ProAxials. If your priority is sound quality at rest go with the Double-Up.

From an appearance standpoint I like symetrical products with matching collars. Look into this option on mixed combos.

David E.M.

I have the pro 60's and pro 80's on my boat and the sound quality is great when up close or out far from the boat. It all depends on what you are trying to achieve with your set up. Most people go with the 80s because they give good mid range base. It is basically a MB8 with a horn in the center like the 60's. here is a picture of my boat. post #9. Your amp choice is very critical on this also.

http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8697

(Message edited by SPBFAN on December 19, 2008)

(Message edited by SPBFAN on December 19, 2008)

Amp is the stock Polk 500 watt 4 channel amp that Correct Craft uses in their new boats. I had the second amp, rack, and wiring added but left off the alpha speakers to go with Wetsounds.

I am leaning towards two pair of 60s. Too bad they do not make a MB6. I think the 80s/MB8 will be too large for the Titan tower.

here ya go!

Sweet set up!

I am putting the Pro 80's and the MB-8's on my tower. Not worried about the low hang because it might come in my favor. Girl is drunk, hits head on speaker, lands face down @$$ up, all good!

+1 on MC



(Message edited by brucemac on December 19, 2008)

Here is some of my boat.

That looks good I like them offset like that when their two different sizes.

That Titan tower is kind of low on the 210. That is what I have. I am 6 foot 2 and my head is always close to just hitting the tower where the speakers arent at. I just have 2 Titan speakers up there from Nautique. You will be ducking all the time if you go with 4 I would think. I would go with the 80's on the outside and 60's in the middle if you go with 4. Personally I think just one on each side is enough.

Hate N Pain thanks I was not sure how it would turn out when I started the project. I also turned them up ever so slightly so when a boarder is behind the boat the nose of the boat is up just a little the speakers actually are straight back at the rider and you can here them just fine. I am going to add a FAE this winter which will also help a lot I hope.

spbfan,

I have boarded behind your boat and it hurt my ears at 70 feet when you had it turned up all the way. Extremely loud. The engine noise was the least of my concerns.

Yeah the FAE is definitely on my list before spring.

spb, remember to get back to me about the FAE.

Evilone I will for sure. I have not forgotten. I am working on getting a couple of more people in on the units. I have two people here in town that want it installed as well so we are getting close to getting it. Any one here wanting FAE send me a PM and I will fill you in on what is going on with that as a group.

Im down and I could probably get another guy too.

What Amps are you guys using to power the Pro 80's and MB-8's on the tower? Wetsounds, Arc, JL, etc.?

ARC Audio

Kicker zx650.4 for a pair of Pro 80's

ARC 300.4 to my pair of 485s.

Been thinking about the ARC amps. Maybe the 300.4 on the tower at 2 Ohms. Good?

^^^ What's your speaker setup, 2 or 4?

Pro80's and MB8's on the tower.

^^^ They are 4ohm each, so you need to wire 1 speaker to it's own chnl of the 4chnl amps. On the Arc 300.4, that will give you 90W's per speaker, a little on light side IMO

I would run it in 2 ohm. That will be 175 Watts per channel.

That's 175W x 4 @ 2ohm. You can't make a 4 ohm speaker into a 2ohm speaker. The only way to get a 2ohm load is to run a pair in parallel, but then the 2 speakers would divide the 175W's and each would receive about the same (87W's).

Take a look at the Kicker ZX850.2 = 425W's x 2 @ 2ohm
would net you 212W's to each speaker

Or better yet, the Kicker ZX850.4 = 175W's x 4 @ 4ohms. A little less power, but I think it will sound better, amp will run cooler, and draw less power.

(Message edited by chpthril on December 26, 2008)

So the ARC 300.4 will not be very efficient for the 80's and 8. Wetsounds suggest the Syn 6 for tower. You stated that you are using ARC for your tower. Which ARC are you using?

TIGEOWNER is using an Arc Audio for his, but not sure which one. The Arc 300.4 will work, but will leave the Wet Sounds, especially the 80's begging for more power. The W/S Syn 6 is is not the best choice for 2 pair of speakers. The Syn2 or Syn4 would be the best for your setup out of the Wet Sounds line up. IMO

Power wise, the Arc 300.2 would give you 175W's to each speaker (350W's x 2 @ 2ohm). I'd probably go with the 2chnl over the 4chnl Arc.

(Message edited by chpthril on December 26, 2008)

I am running the ARC 300.4 on my tower two pro 80's and two pro 60's. It is very clean and plenty of power. TallTigeGuy and Evilone have both heard my boat. Evilone in running Pro 485's off the ARC 300.4 and it is very clean. ARC under rates there amps. I should also mention that they do not get hot at all the only heat I have experienced is the heat from with in the compartment because it is a closed compartment in other words they do not get hotter than the ambient temperature from what I have experianced on my boat. This does not mean it is not possible I guess. I would be interested to see how EVILONE's amp feel and if they get hot at all running the pro 485's.

(Message edited by SPBFAN on December 26, 2008)

Sorry for mixing you guys up, I just remember Tige. On WS's site for the Syn 2, see this: - 2 pairs of PRO 60’s or PRO 80’s. Power: 350 x 2 (The 350 X 2 is at 2 Ohms).

TigeMike, then if I go with the ARC series, then I will need just 1 300.2 and run all 4 speakers in the 2 Ohms mode and that will give me 125W's to each of the 4 speakers. am I reading that correct?

Yep, the 300.2 does 350W's X 2 @ 2ohms, with 2 speakers wired in parallel on each chnl, they will get 175W's each (sorry, bad math in above post)

Mike, sent you and email. We know the same people.

Tigemike,

The SYN-6 IS the best choice for his set up. Bar none. The SYN-6 can run just about any config you can think of. Since the chs 5-6 are high pass or low pass. You can run the amp as a 6 ch, 5 ch, 4 ch, 3 ch etc..So it can run in boats and subs, in boats and towers, towers and subs, just towers. The list can go on.

So Pootie. Hands down the best match is the SYN-6. When running in 4 ch mode. You bridge chs 1-4 into 200x2 for the PRO 80's. Then run the MB-8's off chs 5-6 running 155x2. Matched RMS ratings for all speakers.

Amp is running at 4 ohms. And tons and tons of power.

The SYN-6 is the best way to go. Trust Me.

I remember talking with you about your boat and that you wanted the best and budget was not as much of a concern as getting the best. SYN-6 is the way to go.

Tim
Wet Sounds

Email sent back!

Thanks Tim, I have been reading on here different Amps and getting confused a little. I tried to call your office, but I guess you guys are off today. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

I stand corrected!

I misread the spec's and was thinking he was looking at running both pairs of chnls 1-4, my bad.

(Message edited by chpthril on December 26, 2008)

Tim that configuration would work but he still needs to get power for the interior speakers. He would need a SYN4 for that or the ARC 300.4. I have found although my 300.6 is good on the interior and it sounds good it is still under powered for the interior speakers and they could use a little more power. I have thought about running them in series and bridging the amp channels to get the power needed to feed the speakers. The XS650's are just flat out amazing and starve for power. Like all Wetsounds products do.

I have counted on the Syn 4 for the interior speakers already. I was just confused about what I would need to run the tower at full RMS.

Pootie,

SYN-6 on the tower.
SYN-4 on the in boats.
SYN-1 on the sub. ( i think you are planning on the XS-XXX)

We will be in the office on Monday. But you can hit me up on e mail.

Tim
Wet Sounds

Thanks and that is what I thought all along, but got confused on the specs.