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Old     (Brian4321)      Join Date: Dec 2015       11-02-2016, 1:48 AM Reply   
The weird thing is, if you or I were under investigation by the FBI, we couldn't even get a job at the local **** hole gas station , much less run for president

Last edited by Brian4321; 11-02-2016 at 1:57 AM.
Old     (Brian4321)      Join Date: Dec 2015       11-02-2016, 1:50 AM Reply   
Right on
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       11-02-2016, 6:02 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by pesos View Post
Tangentially related - genuinely curious what everyone thinks about the multiple republican senators who have come out and said they will refuse to even consider any Supreme Court justice if Clinton wins the presidency?
I don't read "obstruct and roadblock" in the constitution. It says "advise and consent." Refusing to engage in the process altogether, and refusing beforehand to confirm ANY nominee is a reprehensible affront to the constitution.
Old     (allzway)      Join Date: Feb 2014       11-02-2016, 6:07 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by shawndoggy View Post
The media? You mean the hackers, right? Do you understand what wikileaks has and where they got it from?
I do.. hackers have provided more real information that the media that is protecting Hillary, but I guarantee you that Hillary has hackers and media digging like crazy.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       11-02-2016, 6:27 AM Reply   
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I do.. hackers have provided more real information that the media that is protecting Hillary, but I guarantee you that Hillary has hackers and media digging like crazy.
so you disagree with Rubio about this?
http://www.theblaze.com/contribution...out-wikileaks/

(citing right wing news source so you can see it's not a "mainstream media conspiracy," though the mainstream have also reported Rubio's position)

The enemy of your enemy isn't necessarily your friend.
Old     (doublemwa)      Join Date: May 2016       11-02-2016, 7:16 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by grant_west View Post
(Doublemwa) so are you saying because someone has a "Higher Education" they are some how more qualified to Vote, then someone else? I thought you lib's were supposed to be champions for the under dog's & impoverish, the down trotted. You sound like the Liberal Elite!

Is this your sentiment also
Pjhorn said

Are not all men created equal & deserve equal protection & respect.
Not at all. I was being facetious. But when voters make outlandish comparisons between candidates it does beg the question of; is this person have the mental capacity to understand the value of their decision. IE: the below:

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Originally Posted by grant_west View Post
I have zero Issue's with someone having a difference of opinion. But the Liberal party is a Violent hate filled group "IN MY OPINION"

Simple test
I would place a bet with anyone that if you were to place a Trump for president Vs a Hillary for president banner in front of your home or business you would encounter some sort of vandalism or conflict with the TRUMP banner over the Hillary banner.

How do you smarter lib's with supposed higher IQ's explain this?
When facts tell a different tale:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...as-racism-hate

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/r...ts-422743.html

https://news.vice.com/article/violen...sts-study-says

Even pushing the rhetoric with discredited sources: http://www.salon.com/2016/11/01/watc...veritas-video/

But yes, you are correct in that some liberals are lashing out. Just last week I got between a guy freaking out over a panhandler wearing a Trump mask holding a sign that read "Pictures with Trump".

Buy and large, republicans deeply hold the title for value motivated violence. For every stolen yard sign or liberal vandalism, its easy to provide a greater case of right wing motivated crime. Hands down....I dare you to challenge me on this...

And yes, we are champions for the little guy. What party is for cheaper education?
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       11-02-2016, 7:24 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by Brian4321 View Post
The weird thing is, if you or I were under investigation by the FBI, we couldn't even get a job at the local **** hole gas station , much less run for president
And no one would even care.
Old     (doublemwa)      Join Date: May 2016       11-02-2016, 7:24 AM Reply   
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The weird thing is, if you or I were under investigation by the FBI, we couldn't even get a job at the local **** hole gas station , much less run for president
Yes you could, both candidates are under investigation:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us...ald-trump.html

Dont forget, Trump has a record 3500 lawsuits! One for a fraudulent university and another for the rape of an underage girl. But keep trying.....
Old    mojo1127            11-02-2016, 7:26 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by doublemwa View Post
Not at all. I was being facetious. But when voters make outlandish comparisons between candidates it does beg the question of; is this person have the mental capacity to understand the value of their decision. IE: the below:



When facts tell a different tale:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...as-racism-hate

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/r...ts-422743.html

https://news.vice.com/article/violen...sts-study-says

Even pushing the rhetoric with discredited sources: http://www.salon.com/2016/11/01/watc...veritas-video/

But yes, you are correct in that some liberals are lashing out. Just last week I got between a guy freaking out over a panhandler wearing a Trump mask holding a sign that read "Pictures with Trump".

Buy and large, republicans deeply hold the title for value motivated violence. For every stolen yard sign or liberal vandalism, its easy to provide a greater case of right wing motivated crime. Hands down....I dare you to challenge me on this...

And yes, we are champions for the little guy. What party is for cheaper education?
please provide some examples of right wing motivated crime vs left wing crime. I"m not sure you want to open that can of worms. go walk onto the berkeley campus wearing a yamuke and see what happens to you. it won't be the right wing people losing their minds and verbally/physically attacking you.

last i checked, education has gotten worse in the US since the dept. of education was invented. YOu must be for the little guy and not the little american. that's why libs push more and more h1-b visas(and some rinos do also)

out of curiosity, do you even live in the united states? i remember a few posts that were worded in such a way that it led me to ponder if you might be from somewhere else; which is ok too.

Last edited by mojo1127; 11-02-2016 at 7:28 AM.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       11-02-2016, 7:28 AM Reply   
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Ho ho. So your solution to moral implosion is the orange narsassit? Wow.
Even "Moral Relativists" never imagined that much relativity.
Old     (allzway)      Join Date: Feb 2014       11-02-2016, 7:51 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by shawndoggy View Post
so you disagree with Rubio about this?
http://www.theblaze.com/contribution...out-wikileaks/

(citing right wing news source so you can see it's not a "mainstream media conspiracy," though the mainstream have also reported Rubio's position)

The enemy of your enemy isn't necessarily your friend.
Oh I get it.. right now it is to the benefit of the republicans.. but tomorrow it may be to the benefit of the democrats.

Either way.. I am okay with the exposing of how corrupt our government has become no matter the method and no matter who gets exposed.

The media used to be the peoples watchdog... now they are just lap dogs to the political parties.

For the record.. I get the Trump hate and didn't vote for him. I am just amazed at the Clinton apologist.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       11-02-2016, 8:05 AM Reply   
You know what's ironic? This is the first female nominee and the bombshells in this election come from penises.
Old    mojo1127            11-02-2016, 8:12 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by fly135 View Post
You know what's ironic? This is the first female nominee and the bombshells in this election come from penises.
lots of good memes out there right now on this topic.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       11-02-2016, 8:46 AM Reply   
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Oh I get it.. right now it is to the benefit of the republicans.. but tomorrow it may be to the benefit of the democrats.

Either way.. I am okay with the exposing of how corrupt our government has become no matter the method and no matter who gets exposed.

The media used to be the peoples watchdog... now they are just lap dogs to the political parties.

For the record.. I get the Trump hate and didn't vote for him. I am just amazed at the Clinton apologist.
So you are OK with hacking of private e-mail and public dissemination of the same? Or you think it's a crime but if the crime serves the greater public good?

Me personally -- I think too much sunshine is bad for policy. Horsetrading and backroom deals have been around forever. They are a function of humanity. We actually NEED our politicians to be able to communicate privately, to explore controversial ideas, to share views privately that they wouldn't share publicly.

As fun as it is to read snarky e-mails from Colin Powell, I feel dirty for it.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       11-02-2016, 9:05 AM Reply   
Just want to get this gem of a response back in here for the record since it appears that Brian realized what an idiot he was being (the quotation marks made it clear that I was quoting Grant) and deleted his rude and baseless post. Damn uneducated Brian.



Dear pesos,

Brian4321 has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - TRUMP for Prez - in the Non-Wakeboarding Discussion forum of WakeWorld.

This thread is located at:
http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showt...5&goto=newpost

Here is the message that has just been posted:
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---Quote (Originally by pesos)---
you will "except" the outcome .
---End Quote---
Back when I went to school, we would've spelled that, "ACCEPT" . Damn uneducated libtards.
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Old    mojo1127            11-02-2016, 9:18 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by shawndoggy View Post
So you are OK with hacking of private e-mail and public dissemination of the same? Or you think it's a crime but if the crime serves the greater public good?

Me personally -- I think too much sunshine is bad for policy. Horsetrading and backroom deals have been around forever. They are a function of humanity. We actually NEED our politicians to be able to communicate privately, to explore controversial ideas, to share views privately that they wouldn't share publicly.

As fun as it is to read snarky e-mails from Colin Powell, I feel dirty for it.
Good to know you think exposing corruption is a bad thing. Harry Reid voter?
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       11-02-2016, 9:22 AM Reply   
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Good to know you think exposing corruption is a bad thing. Harry Reid voter?
He's not on the ballot.
Old    mojo1127            11-02-2016, 9:35 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by shawndoggy View Post
He's not on the ballot.
I was placing the correlation of corruption and Harry Reid. I know he has decided to retire.
Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       11-02-2016, 10:29 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by mojo1127 View Post
Good to know you think exposing corruption is a bad thing. Harry Reid voter?
So how come no outrage from you on Trump's "corruption"? Do you just not believe that he is corrupt or do you just accept it? Guys like you scream and cry about "corruption", yet you back a guy that public brags about how he is corrupt and has used it to become more powerful.

The way some of you post, you would think Mother Teresa is the Republican nominee.
Old    mojo1127            11-02-2016, 10:52 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by wake77 View Post
So how come no outrage from you on Trump's "corruption"? Do you just not believe that he is corrupt or do you just accept it? Guys like you scream and cry about "corruption", yet you back a guy that public brags about how he is corrupt and has used it to become more powerful.

The way some of you post, you would think Mother Teresa is the Republican nominee.
Could you provide some examples of Trump's corruption? I don't think anyone is perfect.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       11-02-2016, 10:54 AM Reply   
Corruption is bad no matter what side of the isle it's comming from. I'm not making excuses for corruption no matter what side your support. I will offer this point of view for your question. Government corruption seems more sinister then Private sector corruption, but this is just my 2c. You might see it as one in the same.

Hillary criticized Trump for using illegal Chinese steel to construct his hotels and buildings. Again if this is illegal send the guilty party's to jail. If not make laws to make sure people can't get away with it. Let's keep it real if you and I could buy products that were 1/4 the price and it as morally wrong but Not illegal I bet the majority would turn a blind eye on the morality
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       11-02-2016, 10:55 AM Reply   
mojo how about paying undocumented workers to build his buildings, or more recently using his charitable foundation to illegally make a campaign contribution to the Florida AG which also suspiciously coincided with the Florida AG declining to join other states' attorney generals in investigating Trump U?

Those are the two that I can think of in about 15 seconds.

Oh yeah, what about the painting of trump that was bought with trump foundation $$$? Where'd it go?
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       11-02-2016, 10:57 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by grant_west View Post
Hillary criticized Trump for using illegal Chinese steel to construct his hotels and buildings. Again if this is illegal send the guilty party's to jail. If not make laws to make sure people can't get away with it. Let's keep it real if you and I could buy products that were 1/4 the price and it as morally wrong but Not illegal I bet the majority would turn a blind eye on the morality
Grant I don't think she said Trump's steel was illegal, just that Trump is a poster child for offshoring work that could be done here. I think she accused China of illegally dumping steel and Trump being the beneficiary of that.
Old    mojo1127            11-02-2016, 11:05 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by shawndoggy View Post
mojo how about paying undocumented workers to build his buildings, or more recently using his charitable foundation to illegally make a campaign contribution to the Florida AG which also suspiciously coincided with the Florida AG declining to join other states' attorney generals in investigating Trump U?

Those are the two that I can think of in about 15 seconds.

Oh yeah, what about the painting of trump that was bought with trump foundation $$$? Where'd it go?
I would say that very well could be some corrupt actions.. you're situational ethics are beyond disgusting. You don't think the NY ag being on hillary's ny leadership council as well as donating the legal amount to her campaign would call for him to recuse himself and let an unbiased prosecutor handle things? You are so knowledgable about everything so you must know this, but left it out.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       11-02-2016, 11:10 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by mojo1127 View Post
I would say that very well could be some corrupt actions.. you're situational ethics are beyond disgusting. You don't think the NY ag being on hillary's ny leadership council as well as donating the legal amount to her campaign would call for him to recuse himself and let an unbiased prosecutor handle things? You are so knowledgable about everything so you must know this, but left it out.
Mojo, seriously, why the personal attacks? I don't think that I've called you "beyond disgusting" about anything. You looking to have a discussion where smart people with opposing viewpoints exchange ideas or just make personal insults to score points? I'm totally down for the former but have no interest in the latter.
Old     (doublemwa)      Join Date: May 2016       11-02-2016, 11:21 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by mojo1127 View Post
please provide some examples of right wing motivated crime vs left wing crime. I"m not sure you want to open that can of worms. go walk onto the berkeley campus wearing a yamuke and see what happens to you. it won't be the right wing people losing their minds and verbally/physically attacking you.

last i checked, education has gotten worse in the US since the dept. of education was invented. YOu must be for the little guy and not the little american. that's why libs push more and more h1-b visas(and some rinos do also)

out of curiosity, do you even live in the united states? i remember a few posts that were worded in such a way that it led me to ponder if you might be from somewhere else; which is ok too.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...-trump/506246/

I'm sorry, what were you saying?

That was last night.....

Modern America:
Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting
Charleston church shooting
Overland Park Jewish Community Center shooting
Murrah federal building
Co. Theater Massacre
Etc.
Etc.
Etc.

I'm from Ga, went to school in CT, have lived in FL, WA, TX, and currently NYC. I also operate a business with employees in NY, GA and Pune India.
Old    mojo1127            11-02-2016, 11:27 AM Reply   
Did you accidentally leave out:– Nidal Hasan – Ft Hood Shooter: Reg*istered Democrat and Muslim.
– Aaron Alexis, Navy Yard shooter – black liberal/Obama voter
– Seung-Hui Cho – Virginia Tech shooter: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff, registered Democrat.
– James Holmes – the “Dark Knight”/Colorado shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, #Occu*py guy,progressive liberal, hated Christians.
– Amy Bishop, the rabid leftist, killed her colleagues in Alabama, Obama supporter.
– Andrew J. Stack, flew plane into IRS building in Texas – Leftist Democrat
– James J. Lee who was the “green activist”/ leftist took hostages at Discovery Channel – progressive liberal Democrat.
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       11-02-2016, 11:50 AM Reply   
" I also operate a business with employees in NY, GA and Pune India"

Even liberals like that cheap labor!
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       11-02-2016, 12:35 PM Reply   
Here's an incomplete list of Trumps evidence of what I call corruption:
#1: Security filings on Trump's failing casinos point to illegal activity
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/ny...city.html?_r=1

#2: Trump renegs on signed, contractual deals with small business owners. They don't get paid.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...uits/85297274/

#3 Trump pays off Florida Attorney General to drop the case against Trump University.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...orney-general/

#4 Trump threatens to cease operations in Texas, unless case against Trump University is dropped. Not necessarily illegal, just slimy.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-t...versity-probe/

#5 Trump partners with couple prosecuted for fraud to promote Trump Institute.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...institute.html

#6 Trump Network, a multilevel marketing (ie pyramid scheme) and how it jilted many people.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...isappointment/

#7 Trump Model Management, which brought models in to the country illegally by lying to customs officials, garnished their wages and housed them in squalid conditions.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...al-immigration

#8 Trump brings in foreign workers at lower wages, citing "he can't find enough American workers." This despite the cornerstone of his campaign.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/jessicagarr...ZO5#.tpb57Jy9Y

#9: Trump hires undocumented workers from Poland and cheats them out of pay and benefits
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/14/ny...pagewanted=all

#10 Justice department sues Trump management for discrimination against blacks.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us...sing-race.html

#11 Trump buys overpriced concrete controlled by mafia chieftains to build Trump Tower, resulting in a federal investigation.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...paginate=false

#12 Trump violates stock notification procedures, is sued by the Federal Trade Commission and settles for a fine of $750,000
http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1988/Tr...e86c65336649a1

#13 Roger Ailes,fired CEO of Fox for sexual misconduct, now advising Trump campaign
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/07/medi...e-preparation/


But lets talk more about Clinton's emails of which all 20 Sr FBI officials found no criminal intent on the part of Hillary
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       11-02-2016, 12:38 PM Reply   
As far as do liberals or conservatives make more nut jobs that shoot up places. Lets just say that there are Crazies everywhere and talk about actual issues that you can control.

I will say that more liberals want to keep guns away from the crazies on both side of the political spectrum.

Oh and calling the liberals Lib-Tards and the Conservatives Racists doesn't advance the conversation. (though there are some of those in both parties in my experience its not the majority of either one)
Old     (doublemwa)      Join Date: May 2016       11-02-2016, 1:43 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by mojo1127 View Post
Did you accidentally leave out:– Nidal Hasan – Ft Hood Shooter: Reg*istered Democrat and Muslim.
– Aaron Alexis, Navy Yard shooter – black liberal/Obama voter
– Seung-Hui Cho – Virginia Tech shooter: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff, registered Democrat.
– James Holmes – the “Dark Knight”/Colorado shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, #Occu*py guy,progressive liberal, hated Christians.
– Amy Bishop, the rabid leftist, killed her colleagues in Alabama, Obama supporter.
– Andrew J. Stack, flew plane into IRS building in Texas – Leftist Democrat
– James J. Lee who was the “green activist”/ leftist took hostages at Discovery Channel – progressive liberal Democrat.
We debunked this one a long time ago. @Grant remember this one?

But to cherry pick some of you fallacies:
Seung-Hui Cho - 1. Virginia does not allow partisan voter registration 2. Seung-Hui Cho was on a green card and not allowed to vote, therefore it can not be determined if he was one way or the other. Did not write hate mail to Obama. Side note, my GF was on the VT campus during the shooting.

Nidal Hasan was born and lived in Virginia, served at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, DC, transferred to Ft Hood, Texas. Both Virginia and Texas have non-partisan voter registration, meaning when you register to vote you DO NOT LIST AN AFFILIATED PARTY! Washington, DC is a special federal district with no voting rights and, obviously, no voter registration.

James Holmes. This was reported by ABC News and Breitbart blogger Joel Pollack. However, ABC’s Brian Williams and the Breitbart website issued corrections (Breitbart went so far as to admit that due to inability to match dates and addresses, Holmes may not have even been registered to vote,) and Williams issued an apology. Apparently someone found a James Holmes on Democratic rolls but failed to check that it was the same person as the shooter. It was not. Despite this, Holmes continues to be listed on newer versions. I did not search for the “chicken or the egg” relationship between ABC and Breitbart. Both were culpable, both took timely, corrective action.

I would go through this and crush all your arguments but now that we all know you get your facts from a click bait web site (http://patriotupdate.com/mass-murderers-democrats) We'll just take the short path and recognize you are very ill-informed on facts....

I just read an article last week advising people to stop using fake news websites because it made them look dumb and wish I could post here, but don't have the time to find it right now. But keep challenging me more and I'll find in the am during my conference call.
Old     (doublemwa)      Join Date: May 2016       11-02-2016, 1:51 PM Reply   
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" I also operate a business with employees in NY, GA and Pune India"

Even liberals like that cheap labor!
Yes, domestic labor, in my mind, is one of the biggest challenge liberals face. We employee locally when we can, but to be competitive in the market, it requires people willing to do quality work for cheap.

IE: just before logging in I priced out a new proposal. To hire someone to sit at a terminal and trouble shoot in NYC would cost $55,000 (x1.5 for benifits). Pune I get 2 guys to cover 16hours of the day for $40,000, and a higher quality of work. That is also 5K per employee higher than market rate.
Old    deltahoosier            11-02-2016, 2:47 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by doublemwa View Post
Yes, domestic labor, in my mind, is one of the biggest challenge liberals face. We employee locally when we can, but to be competitive in the market, it requires people willing to do quality work for cheap.

IE: just before logging in I priced out a new proposal. To hire someone to sit at a terminal and trouble shoot in NYC would cost $55,000 (x1.5 for benifits). Pune I get 2 guys to cover 16hours of the day for $40,000, and a higher quality of work. That is also 5K per employee higher than market rate.
Makes sense. We have to ask ourselves what policies make things more expensive and can we mitigate the ability to move labor off shore?

I am sure you are like Trump. Stuck with the realities of running a business while knowing if you had a chance you would make the playing field equal so you can keep your money home.
Old     (VanillaGorilla)      Join Date: Nov 2015       11-02-2016, 3:55 PM Reply   
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But lets talk more about Clinton's emails of which all 20 Sr FBI officials found no criminal intent on the part of Hillary
The problem with your argument is no criminal intent is needed for it to be a felony.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-02-2016, 4:22 PM Reply   
Mojo get the heave-ho?
Old     (deuce)      Join Date: Mar 2002       11-02-2016, 4:46 PM Reply   
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Mojo get the heave-ho?
Or pulled out/off the forum.

I wondered the same thing.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       11-02-2016, 6:06 PM Reply   
a very good childhood friend explained this to me last week. he comes from a very wealthy liberal family. he states, "we need more low to low middle class" the more we can control the minds of those who "truly" believe there is hope, the more we can control their belief they have opportunity. "As a non tax paying , wealthy liberal, our coalition cannot afford open minded, free thinking, low to middle class citizens realize there is no chance of change. "We need to keep a majority of low income, poor, and desperate focused on the democratic party "trying" to fix there situation. We all know there is no chance of changing their outcome, but we "democrats" need a large pool of people to "think" we care about their plea.
Scary, but true
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-02-2016, 6:20 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by dougr View Post
a very good childhood friend explained this to me last week. he comes from a very wealthy liberal family. he states, "we need more low to low middle class" the more we can control the minds of those who "truly" believe there is hope, the more we can control their belief they have opportunity. "As a non tax paying , wealthy liberal, our coalition cannot afford open minded, free thinking, low to middle class citizens realize there is no chance of change. "We need to keep a majority of low income, poor, and desperate focused on the democratic party "trying" to fix there situation. We all know there is no chance of changing their outcome, but we "democrats" need a large pool of people to "think" we care about their plea.
Scary, but true
Cool story bro
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-02-2016, 6:51 PM Reply   
Trump due in Court on Dec 16th for sexual assault on a 13 year old girl:
http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/don...-rape-lawsuit/

Also read a harrowing report on some brutal treatment of Ivanka.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-02-2016, 7:29 PM Reply   
I'm starting to come around, when were the KKK wrong about something?
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Old     (Laker1234)      Join Date: Mar 2010       11-02-2016, 7:34 PM Reply   
And the left's philosophy http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2169
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-02-2016, 7:51 PM Reply   
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Yeah but this is a thread about Trump. And that website is complete nonsense, if you think that "the left" have those views as their manifesto then you are insane.

I swear there could be video footage of trump eating a baby and someone would post Yeah but Hillary was fast and loose with her emails.
Old     (cwb4me)      Join Date: Apr 2010       11-02-2016, 9:11 PM Reply   
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Mojo get the heave-ho?
Hillary deleted his account.
Old     (doublemwa)      Join Date: May 2016       11-03-2016, 6:23 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by Laker1234 View Post
You guys have got to stop with the crap web sites.

"You can't believe everything you read on the internet" - Abraham Lincoln
Old     (allzway)      Join Date: Feb 2014       11-03-2016, 6:24 AM Reply   
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So you are OK with hacking of private e-mail and public dissemination of the same? Or you think it's a crime but if the crime serves the greater public good?

Me personally -- I think too much sunshine is bad for policy. Horsetrading and backroom deals have been around forever. They are a function of humanity. We actually NEED our politicians to be able to communicate privately, to explore controversial ideas, to share views privately that they wouldn't share publicly.

As fun as it is to read snarky e-mails from Colin Powell, I feel dirty for it.
I wouldn't say I am okay with hacking, but if we run personal servers in our basements, expect to get hacked. If our government can't control their information from being hacked, then they deserved to be exposed.

I hate corruption and that means Trump too.. if he is guilty arrest him. I will not apologize for anyone that is guilty of a crime or corruption.

The legal system should be equal for a rich ahole (Trump and Clinton) the same as it is for you or me.
Old     (doublemwa)      Join Date: May 2016       11-03-2016, 6:24 AM Reply   
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a very good childhood friend explained this to me last week. he comes from a very wealthy liberal family. he states, "we need more low to low middle class" the more we can control the minds of those who "truly" believe there is hope, the more we can control their belief they have opportunity. "As a non tax paying , wealthy liberal, our coalition cannot afford open minded, free thinking, low to middle class citizens realize there is no chance of change. "We need to keep a majority of low income, poor, and desperate focused on the democratic party "trying" to fix there situation. We all know there is no chance of changing their outcome, but we "democrats" need a large pool of people to "think" we care about their plea.
Scary, but true
Do you understand you just described the theory of Trickle Down Economics and attached the word "liberal" to it?
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       11-03-2016, 8:24 AM Reply   
I always wondered who falls for these stupid fake new websites, email phishing scams, etc. Now I realize it's Wakeworlders.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       11-03-2016, 9:49 AM Reply   
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I wouldn't say I am okay with hacking, but if we run personal servers in our basements, expect to get hacked. If our government can't control their information from being hacked, then they deserved to be exposed.

I hate corruption and that means Trump too.. if he is guilty arrest him. I will not apologize for anyone that is guilty of a crime or corruption.

The legal system should be equal for a rich ahole (Trump and Clinton) the same as it is for you or me.
So you realize wikileaks and clintonmail.com server are different, right? What wikileaks is releasing is NOT the result of their hacking the clinton server, it's hacking other sources.
Old    deltahoosier            11-03-2016, 9:54 AM Reply   
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Yeah but this is a thread about Trump. And that website is complete nonsense, if you think that "the left" have those views as their manifesto then you are insane.

I swear there could be video footage of trump eating a baby and someone would post Yeah but Hillary was fast and loose with her emails.
Yes. The left does. Obama kicked off his presidential campaign in the living room of Bill Ayers. They did bomb police stations. They did beat people up at Trump rallies.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-03-2016, 10:13 AM Reply   
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Yes. The left does. Obama kicked off his presidential campaign in the living room of Bill Ayers. They did bomb police stations. They did beat people up at Trump rallies.
Ayers direct quote about Obama:
"David Axelrod said we were friendly, that was true; we served on a couple of boards together, that was true; he held a fundraiser in our living room, that was true; Michelle [Obama] and Bernardine were at the law firm together, that was true. Hyde Park in Chicago is a tiny neighborhood, so when he said I was “a guy around the neighborhood,” that was true. Today, I wish I knew him better and he was listening to me. Obama’s not a radical. I wish he were, but he’s not."

Look if you are truely saying that non radical libs believe that manifesto as there core belief then i understand why you hate all Muslims. What I don't understand is why you don't fear all republicans as part of the Rockefeller/Rotheschild/Colonel Sanders World control conspiracy.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       11-03-2016, 10:48 AM Reply   
Ralph you're not gonna get to Rod with facts. He'll just keep parroting Breitbart talking points and swearing up and down he does nothing but read democratic underground, whatever that is. Oh and that you're a hypocrite if you support gay rights but don't participate in gay sex. He's just trying to rile you up.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-03-2016, 11:04 AM Reply   
I 100% support homosexuality. Leaves more women for us real men
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       11-03-2016, 11:45 AM Reply   
Oh. So you don't think Homosexuals are "real men'?
Old    deltahoosier            11-03-2016, 11:51 AM Reply   
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Ayers direct quote about Obama:
"David Axelrod said we were friendly, that was true; we served on a couple of boards together, that was true; he held a fundraiser in our living room, that was true; Michelle [Obama] and Bernardine were at the law firm together, that was true. Hyde Park in Chicago is a tiny neighborhood, so when he said I was “a guy around the neighborhood,” that was true. Today, I wish I knew him better and he was listening to me. Obama’s not a radical. I wish he were, but he’s not."

Look if you are truely saying that non radical libs believe that manifesto as there core belief then i understand why you hate all Muslims. What I don't understand is why you don't fear all republicans as part of the Rockefeller/Rotheschild/Colonel Sanders World control conspiracy.
You are more than a "guy around the block" if you are starting a presidential run in someones living room. You are pretty decent friends.

Liberals (radical or otherwise) have been hijacked by these hard core progressives. The switch came when the democrats were getting killed at the polls during the Bush administration. The democrat party switched to Howard Dean of the party and put Nancy Pelosi in charge. They needed a means to not look like the Republicans so they turned it over to the leftist in the party.

If you look at that manifesto, there are many parallel talking points that the Black Lives Matter and Occupy Wall Street crowd are parroting. These are old 1960's communist revolutionary talking points. You are also seeing the actions where you have leftists paid to show up to Trump rallies and bash a few heads and cause purposeful disruptions trying to get a video. Same game plans.

As far as Muslim's go. Go ahead and bring them in. The first people they are going to kill are the non religious. Islam and Western/ European society have never been compatible with Islam. Period!! Been at war for centuries. Hell, Islam is not even compatible with Islam. They fight among each other for centuries.

Not up on the Rockefeller/Rotheschild/Colonel Sanders deal. I am against all forms of internationalism. It simply does not work. It does not work for the very reason a mass centralized government in the US does not completely work. You guys part of the people that wants to say the system is broken yet wants more of it. At least we in the US have a similar cultural background.

You have to ask yourself to what does a world without borders that George Soros wants get the people like you and I? It dilutes our culture, decreases our security and reduces our wages. Only the Elites win. Only people who want this are failed cultures hoping to move into our financial system without assimulating to the culture that allowed it to flourish. The only reason to push people large amounts of people with a completely different standards of living on another population is to destabilize the strong culture.
Old    deltahoosier            11-03-2016, 11:58 AM Reply   
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Ralph you're not gonna get to Rod with facts. He'll just keep parroting Breitbart talking points and swearing up and down he does nothing but read democratic underground, whatever that is. Oh and that you're a hypocrite if you support gay rights but don't participate in gay sex. He's just trying to rile you up.
Nope. Don't read Breitbart.

I see your are still "Butt Hurt" on the gay rights thing.......
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-03-2016, 12:10 PM Reply   
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Oh. So you don't think Homosexuals are "real men'?
Just jokes. I stopped believing in such a thing as "real men" in my 30's
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-03-2016, 12:26 PM Reply   
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You are more than a "guy around the block" if you are starting a presidential run in someones living room. You are pretty decent friends.
Yip, I agree. But seeing as the fund raiser was in 1995 in his run for Senate at the request of outgoing Senator Palmer and Obama and Ayers first met 6 months before, we can both agree they are not mates.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       11-03-2016, 12:53 PM Reply   
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They did bomb police stations.
yYou mean back when the US was forcing 18 yo kids to their death in Asia. Back when the US govt murdered 55k Americans and was slaughtering thousands of impoverished peasants? Back when Americans living a high quality lifestyle thought it was great for America to murder people living in poverty, eeking out a meager existence? Oh the horrors of someone taking an agressive stance like that.
Old    deltahoosier            11-03-2016, 1:21 PM Reply   
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yYou mean back when the US was forcing 18 yo kids to their death in Asia. Back when the US govt murdered 55k Americans and was slaughtering thousands of impoverished peasants? Back when Americans living a high quality lifestyle thought it was great for America to murder people living in poverty, eeking out a meager existence? Oh the horrors of someone taking an agressive stance like that.
Yes. because we have laws and fellow country men and women. We were helping a country that was getting over run. Considering we just went through WW2 not long before and know how the Soviets treated the world, it may have seemed reasonable at the time. You can arm chair that to death, however killing your fellow American because of a fit is dangerous and is a historic trait of the left around the world. I would argue it was not because of a fit but it was an attempt to further degrade the populations faith in government and want to over throw it. Dangerous game people start when we justify killing our fellow citizen because we don't like our leaders.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-03-2016, 1:52 PM Reply   
I agree, violence is not the best solution to any problem
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       11-03-2016, 9:40 PM Reply   
http://www.investors.com/politics/ed...ocratic-party/

couldn't agree more. That's why I laugh every time that a liberal says that republicans are sheeple. funny but sad
Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       11-04-2016, 7:54 AM Reply   
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http://www.investors.com/politics/ed...ocratic-party/

couldn't agree more. That's why I laugh every time that a liberal says that republicans are sheeple. funny but sad
So we are supposed to take an editorial piece as the gospel? Republicans were duped into nominating a candidate that has almost a zero percent chance of winning, so sounds like "sheeple" fits.
Old     (cwb4me)      Join Date: Apr 2010       11-04-2016, 8:09 AM Reply   
Republican candidate has almost Zero chance of winning? Is that new math?
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       11-04-2016, 8:19 AM Reply   
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Yes. because we have laws and fellow country men and women.
You mean the laws that allowed the govt to take 18 yo kids by force and murder them? The laws that couldn't prevent the murder of 100's of thousands of innocent people by the US war machine? Sorry but I just can't muster up what it takes to get all self righteous over the death of one person in protest of the govt sponsored abomination of human rights called the Vietnam War. OTOH if I was a mindless authoritarian robot I could easy take up that line. And even spin is so that it wasn't a protest of the war.
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       11-04-2016, 9:24 AM Reply   
"You mean the laws that allowed the govt to take 18 yo kids by force and murder them?"

Yeah that democrat Johnson was a SOB.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       11-04-2016, 9:38 AM Reply   
Both LBJ and Nixon.
Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       11-04-2016, 10:54 AM Reply   
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Republican candidate has almost Zero chance of winning? Is that new math?
Where do you like his odds? The latest FBI scandal has had little/to no impact on the polls. Current polling shows Hillary has leads in enough states to win the electoral college. Trump has already started making excuses. Math or "new math" isn't going to change what is glaringly obvious.
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       11-04-2016, 12:20 PM Reply   
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You mean the laws that allowed the govt to take 18 yo kids by force and murder them? The laws that couldn't prevent the murder of 100's of thousands of innocent people by the US war machine? Sorry but I just can't muster up what it takes to get all self righteous over the death of one person in protest of the govt sponsored abomination of human rights called the Vietnam War. OTOH if I was a mindless authoritarian robot I could easy take up that line. And even spin is so that it wasn't a protest of the war.
Trying to defend the left by excusing murder with the justification of a greater cause to stop what a democrat started. Brilliant.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       11-04-2016, 1:19 PM Reply   
Well Paul, to you it's all about partisan politics. With me it's about history and the natural consequences of our actions. If you can't put into perspective the immoral acts of the govt and the American people against the actions of the activists, then you are living a history that never happened.
Old     (cwb4me)      Join Date: Apr 2010       11-04-2016, 1:23 PM Reply   
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Where do you like his odds? The latest FBI scandal has had little/to no impact on the polls. Current polling shows Hillary has leads in enough states to win the electoral college. Trump has already started making excuses. Math or "new math" isn't going to change what is glaringly obvious.
It's hilarious you state zero chance. Think of the Superbowl the last two years. Hardly any fans would have given the Patriots a chance in winning with 1 minutel left to play. The next year most fans said Carolina would dominate the game.People say they are going to vote but sometimes don't. Voter turnout will determine this election.

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Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       11-04-2016, 1:33 PM Reply   
Where did he state zero chance? I don't see that unless it was in an earlier post you didn't quote.

I hope you are right about it being turnout. Already looking pretty scary with all the armed militia groups Trump has incited to violence. Hope folks stay safe out there and the loser concedes with some grace and dignity (fat chance I know).
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       11-04-2016, 1:37 PM Reply   
My voting record would disagree, And you're not fooling anyone on here with your history and natural consequence story.
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       11-04-2016, 1:41 PM Reply   
Here;

"Republicans were duped into nominating a candidate that has almost a zero percent chance of winning, so sounds like "sheeple" fits. "
Old     (allzway)      Join Date: Feb 2014       11-04-2016, 2:29 PM Reply   
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Where did he state zero chance? I don't see that unless it was in an earlier post you didn't quote.

I hope you are right about it being turnout. Already looking pretty scary with all the armed militia groups Trump has incited to violence. Hope folks stay safe out there and the loser concedes with some grace and dignity (fat chance I know).
Just curious... Did Obama incite the black panthers during his election?
Old    deltahoosier            11-04-2016, 4:58 PM Reply   
Only organized violence I have seen was democrats beating up trump supporters and Black Panthers marching with guns in the streets.

You know, John is correct. If you don't like what your fellow man is doing in your name, maybe people should go out and murder someone. John has clearly stated over and over that a person is not responsible for their response to adversity. It is clearly the victims fault for provoking the attacker. I think it is a great idea. Everyone pick a person who has wronged them and bomb them, shoot them or have a good ol knife fight. (sarcasm)
Old     (doublemwa)      Join Date: May 2016       11-04-2016, 5:21 PM Reply   
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Only organized violence I have seen was democrats beating up trump supporters and Black Panthers marching with guns in the streets.
I guess it's easy to cherry pick huh?

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...ith-vote-trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ome-addresses/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-rural-oregon/

Is it you didn't see because you choose not to, or was it just because Breitbart and Fox didn't cover it?
Old     (doublemwa)      Join Date: May 2016       11-04-2016, 5:32 PM Reply   
Delta - Just saw this one on Vice news tonight:

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politi...htmlstory.html

What were you saying?
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       11-04-2016, 6:40 PM Reply   
Yikes, things aren't looking to good for Trump's right-hand man Chris Christie. With the aides going to jail, wonder if he's exposed. Next up, Trump's own court dates for his Trump University fraud and child rape. Gonna be an interesting 6 weeks.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-04-2016, 7:38 PM Reply   
How are Drumpfs tax returns coming along?
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       11-04-2016, 8:22 PM Reply   
Nada, but looks like there is confirmation Melania worked here before getting her work visa. Not that the Trumpkins care about hypocrisy.

Imagine if Obama had arrived on the scene with 5 kids from 3 different women and bragged about grabbin pussies lol.
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