mastercraft/pure vert?

Has any one heard of mastercraft leasing the pat. for the gravity no pump pure vert ballast system?

Robby

Doubt it, MC doesn't copy, barrow, or in any way do any thing that's already been done. They are innovators 100%

Inventors of the tower brace

do you guys work for mastercraft........ represent them???. i didnt think so. I would say your comments/opinions are not qualified in any way, shape or form. I have seen an 09 options spec list with pure vert in it. can someone answer this post that has some legit info other than an opinion that mastercraft doesnt barrow or copy anything from any other boat companies. I believe correct craft pat. the tower. I do not believe that mastercraft invented perfect pass. or zero off.

people please.....

sarcasm does not transfer through typing..... so this is my disclaimer. hehe

Sounds like you answered your own question. If you saw it on a Mastercraft options spec sheet or brochure then I would say it is available

It was a spec sheet from europe.

I went on a factory tour last week and I saw the Mastercraft Yacht and the innovative pure vert system.

Mastercraft told us all not to take any pictures of either but the tour guide winked when he said this.

I immediately took this gesture to heart and took as many pictures of both as I could, knowing that I would be the shiznit on Wakeworld once I posted them.

I would post the pics but Mastercraft is sending me a coupon so that I can get my pics developed for free. It will take a couple of weeks since the coupon is being shipped from Dubai.

Once I post these pics and post them on wakeworld... I will officially "have arrived"

I love you Mastercraft

That is an awesome system. I would love to have 3000lbs fill that fast in my 236. If that was in the xstar look out. Nice job if mc picked it up

Don't worry.. It will only be a 750lb system because with their superior hull design you don't need extra ballast. The extra weight of the tower band aid will help sink the middle and front of the boat.

nO joke....... Mastercraft has always had the worst pump system IMO. This would truely fix one of the things i hated most about an otherwise pretty amazing boat. the X star.

Murphy you are already the man,
MAster craft..... this could be love!

I heard that the 72 piece band aid for the M-craft tower added 350lbs. That should help with adding weight to the boat.

In all honesty, a few years back when I was selling M- Craft their was a " Buzz" going around about them adding this system to their boats. I herd rumors about them purchasing the patent and things along those lines, so it would not surprise me at all if this was true.

Go to google and search "mastercraft pure vert". The result show some boats with a rear pure very system.

Robby,

Sorry if my comment offended, it was meant a as joke. Just taking a little jab at MC in reference to the whole Tige/MC picklefork who-copied-who debate.

the ad associated with this image says it but I don't see any ballast gates

http://www.luxmarine.com.au/image/boats/whiteys_boat_002_640x480_lux.jpg

There are a lot of mention of the "pure vert" system in a lot of ads but none of them seem to be the Pure Vert of MB and Calabria.

It's possible in the future, I know that MC has toyed with the idea but as far as I know there is no pure vert offering for any 2009 boats. All MC's will continue to run Jabsco Ballast pumps for the KGB System.

I think this is a case of a dealer miswording their website.

"pure vert" is a pat. miswording it would be kinda a big deal. unauthorized use of trademarks or what not. We will all see when murphy has pics of gates.

Did MB use that patent? I thought they had something similar in their boats.

yes, MB does license the system. it's legit. Straight up, 2400 lbs would fill in about 90 seconds and drain in 45. You could load one side for surfing and just spend a minute and watch the boat slowly start to list. Plus, it's so simple.

Im lost, what is pure vert?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYhawR_IU-E

Smoothest ballast system I've ever seen. Plus, no need to winterize or ever replace plumbing or pumps. If you live on a lake that has banned ballast, there's no evidence of a ballast system.

Pure Vert Ballast System

How it Works:

This is a simple system that works on gravity. The nice thing about gravity is that it's free, it always works and it can't break down. The principle is simple - if you forget to put the drain plug in your boat - it will sink (fast!)

This system has two 3 1/2 inch holes under the water line of the boat. When the valves are open, water flows into the tanks located under the floorboard of the boat. Close the valves, and your ballast tanks are full. To empty system, open valves, plane boat and go slow.

How much easier can it get?


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Features:

• Uses 2 valves instead of 2 - 8 pumps

• Fills and empties in approximately 1 minute

• Takes less time to install

• Allows for storage/ski locker in the bow

• Allows you to quickly and easily adjust ballast to eliminate listing

• You can choose ballast from left or right for wake surfing in seconds

• For wake surfing, by filling one tank half full as the boat planes and the bow raises, this will force the remaining water in the tank to the rear of the boat, shaping the wake even better.

• Eliminate one of the biggest problems in ballast systems today ~ pump failure.

• Cost is about the same to install (including licensing fees)

• Allow you to choose the amount of water/weight as per customer request by the distance between bulkheads. As distance between bulkhead increases, the more ballast on board. (i.e. Team Riders = 3,000 lbs; General Public = 1,000 lbs)

• Placement of the ballast tanks over the center of gravity of the boat will push the boat down evenly, as opposed to pushing the bow and stern down independently.

• The motor and transom area will appear cleaner with the absence of bilge pumps, hosing, wiring, etc...


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My goal is to show you, first hand, how well this ballast system will work in your boats.

I am willing to come to your factory and supply you with the necessary components, at no cost to you, and install the system in one of your boats with the assistance of a helper you will provide. An R & D, or used boat will be fine for this purpose.

Several wake board boat manufactures have committed to using this system in their '09 season. If you are interested in my offer, please contact me ASAP, as several OEM's are in the process of scheduling with me.

Consumer response has been very positive. The system's features are not only unique, they are effective. This helps to sell boats.


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U.S. Patent Information

I went to Murphy's wedding this summer & he told us he had a major announcement coming soon..... a big boat manufacturer who was going to make boats with his PureVert system in them.

If it's not MC, then it's coming up.

Word is that Calabria will be losing it too.

No one has ever told me what happens if the boat is full of ballast and dies.... are you stuck towing it, pulling out of the water and everything with another 3k in ballast?

Yes..... although I don't think any of the PV systems have 3k lbs in them. Calabria's was like 700 lbs. Bigger boats may be slightly more, but not that much.

We have pulled the Calabrias out a few times with the ballast full. Wasn't a problem. Brought the water home & washed off the driveway with it. But you will definitely need a truck with some grunt to make it happen.

Well the Tomcat has 2400 so it's close.

Yea, thats when the truck with grunt comes into play.

So that should make it 4 different companies using it. Good move IMO, its a great system.

What kind of valves do they use and where can I get them? My boat has tanks in the floor that I'd like to retrofit with such a system.

The valves on my Pro V are gate valves

Calabria used to use a waste valve similar to one used on an RV. I don't know what brand name they used but this one should give you some idea.

Or here is the manual style.

Seems like anyone doing floor work should be adding this kind of system (like on an old Nautique 2001 or a Supra).

(Message edited by bill_airjunky on December 16, 2008)

That sounds like a much better system. Somebody sat down and took all the problems out of the equation.

Thanks guys, I'm definitely doing it to my boat. I'll have to find those nice 3" chrome flange fittings somewhere.

I wonder if the next generation Xstar's hull will be designed to accommodate built in ballast storage between the hull and liner. To me, this is the direction all manufacturers should head. Especially when the boat is designed with this system in mind, as opposed to a retrofit.

Didn't the 09's already come out? Is there a chance that MC will start putting purevert in their line half way through the season