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Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       Today, 9:33 AM Reply   
How do you guys feel about the Trump admin's response to the covid-19 (coronavirus) outbreak? There was a lot of criticism on here about Obama's response to Ebola in 2015. Does Larry Kudlow's assertion that CV is contained here make you feel better or worse?
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       Today, 9:38 AM Reply   
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Whose Truth? She should not be making public decorations like a politician outside of court. That's what happens when you appoint a pure academic to the court instead of a judge.
Who are you referring to and what did she decorate?
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       Today, 9:48 AM Reply   
Trump's non-response is unsurprising, since he just gutted the CDC and alienated scientists everywhere (which is an odd move for a known germophobe). He and his friends at Faux News will spin the market concerns as reactions to "Crazy Bernie" and the lapdogs will eat it up. Depending on timing, it could be a happy accident for Republicans in November. Republicans win when turnout is low, and this way they get that without all the usual suppression and gerrymandering tactics (although if silverhairs take the brunt of it, it might be a different story).
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       Today, 10:06 AM Reply   
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Trump's non-response is unsurprising, since he just gutted the CDC and alienated scientists everywhere (which is an odd move for a known germophobe). He and his friends at Faux News will spin the market concerns as reactions to "Crazy Bernie" and the lapdogs will eat it up. Depending on timing, it could be a happy accident for Republicans in November. Republicans win when turnout is low, and this way they get that without all the usual suppression and gerrymandering tactics (although if silverhairs take the brunt of it, it might be a different story).
I agree that Bernie is crazy. See democrats and republicans can agree on something
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       Today, 10:23 AM Reply   
You've got a lot of democrats agreeing with you on that one Doug :-)
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       Today, 11:56 AM Reply   
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Caucus was interesting. Nobody burned any tires in my precinct and of the 6 available delegates to the county convention, Amy got 2, and each of Pete, Joe, Liz and Bernie got 1.

So as for working or not... I'm not sure how provision of a public good, like medical care, would encourage people not to work. It's not money in your pocket, and it's not food stamps that you can go sell for beer money. It's a benefit you really only need if you need it, like fire or police. Why is it so offensive to cover that last 10%? I've never heard of anyone only working for insurance and if they didn't have it they'd quit. If that were true, why don't "free" school, police and fire make people lazy in the same way?

Of the $90T (I haven't seen that, but I'll assume it's true), how much are we currently projected to spend over the next 10 years between privately funded healthcare, copays, premiums, employer tax breaks, medicare, medicaid, etc? What makes the last uninsured 10% so expensive to cover?
I bet if someone would have quietly said they were for not killing babies, a few bic lighters would have been produced.....

The last 10% are covered by the county system. You keep saying they are not covered, but they are.

I know all sorts of people who worked for the benefits. I took my job and stayed for it. My wife completely got out of her field of work after 12 years because she needed benefits so she went back to a certification program and switched careers over it.

Free school, fire and police are not items that go into your day to day living. You never really lived around poor people have you? You certainly must never have lived with the generational party families have you? While partying certainly does not make you an automatic free loader, a majority of free loaders are the generational party people. It is not like they are the cool kids. They just know of drugs and alcohol as the means to an existence. It is the high point of the family existence. I knew a bunch of them. They knew all the program weak points to get free stuff. All they inspired to was the next party and the local glory stories. It is a sad existence but it works for them. You have a lot of that in California, they just don't have a 100 year old house they can rent with some friends for next to nothing. Instead they are priced out of the market completely so they live under the overpasses in San Fran and Oakland.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       Today, 11:56 AM Reply   
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Who are you referring to and what did she decorate?
she decorated her declarations.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       Today, 11:59 AM Reply   
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Of the $90T (I haven't seen that, but I'll assume it's true), how much are we currently projected to spend over the next 10 years between privately funded healthcare, copays, premiums, employer tax breaks, medicare, medicaid, etc? What makes the last uninsured 10% so expensive to cover?
So you are advocating moving all healthcare away from corporations to the middle class through taxes? We all know that there are not that many "wealthy" people to pay that much money. Even if you could, the "wealthy" simply will not be "wealthy" in this country.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       Today, 2:19 PM Reply   
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So you are advocating moving all healthcare away from corporations to the middle class through taxes? We all know that there are not that many "wealthy" people to pay that much money. Even if you could, the "wealthy" simply will not be "wealthy" in this country.
Why is it reasonable for the middle class pay for the military, courts, SEC, fire and police, all of which benefit corporations?

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