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Old     (louisOh1912)      Join Date: Jul 2012       11-01-2016, 7:14 PM Reply   
LET GET THIS STRAIGHT....
I've gotten into too arguments with too many people trying to figure out what grab is called what, because a few names differ from wakeboarding to snowboarding to skateboarding and some just are impossible on a wakeboard. I drew this up because i hated most of the pics/charts i found on google. I can edit it if I got anything wrong but HELP ME OUT HERE.
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Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-01-2016, 7:39 PM Reply   
Missing roast beef and chicken salad!
Old     (VinnyA)      Join Date: Aug 2011       11-01-2016, 8:09 PM Reply   
Looks good to me!
Old     (DenverRider)      Join Date: Feb 2013       11-01-2016, 9:34 PM Reply   
How would you do a chicken salad on a wakeboard? You have to have at least one hand on the rope. I suppose that if you had enough slack you could put the other arm up in the air.

Is there a difference between roast beef and stalefish? I think those are just snowboard grabs.
Old     (showmedonttellme)      Join Date: Mar 2008       11-02-2016, 12:40 AM Reply   
Why does your schematic gotta be all REGULAR, Louis? GOOFY riders matter too!
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       11-02-2016, 3:23 AM Reply   
Roast beef is between the legs stale is not.

Crail is back hand front where nuclear is.

nuclear grabs should not be allowed. Ever. Ever. Nuclear is back hand to to the edge not the nose.

Last edited by simplej; 11-02-2016 at 3:25 AM.
Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-02-2016, 5:55 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by DenverRider View Post
How would you do a chicken salad on a wakeboard? You have to have at least one hand on the rope. I suppose that if you had enough slack you could put the other arm up in the air.

Is there a difference between roast beef and stalefish? I think those are just snowboard grabs.
I'm thinking of something different, not chicken salad

back hand, behind and in-between the legs, reach through the legs and grab toe edge... If a name doesn't exist, then maybe we should call it the pretzel haha... It's pretty hard!
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       11-02-2016, 6:11 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by boardjnky4 View Post
I'm thinking of something different, not chicken salad

back hand, behind and in-between the legs, reach through the legs and grab toe edge... If a name doesn't exist, then maybe we should call it the pretzel haha... It's pretty hard!
Like some kind of twisted suitcase grab? Hahaha
Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-02-2016, 6:36 AM Reply   
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Like some kind of twisted suitcase grab? Hahaha
yeah I don't even know! I have a picture of one that I did on my computer at home. I'll post it later.
Old     (LukeR103)      Join Date: Apr 2010       11-02-2016, 6:56 AM Reply   
You are missing my personal favorite - THE MEAT CURTAIN!. It's a double roast beef grab without the handle. Let the meat air out! Extra points if you can get the handle back haha
Old     (chillinoj)      Join Date: May 2009       11-02-2016, 7:01 AM Reply   
never heard of "mindy" before, always called it a slob grab. but good post of things to remember & try
Old     (DenverRider)      Join Date: Feb 2013       11-02-2016, 7:38 AM Reply   
I think they call it slob in Shaun Murray's Detention.
Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-02-2016, 7:56 AM Reply   
yeah, in wake it's called a slob. I've seen a lot of guys (myself included) do slob as their first grab in a 360/540.
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       11-02-2016, 8:20 AM Reply   
where's the goofy vers?
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       11-02-2016, 8:22 AM Reply   
All the hands are upside down and flipped.
Old     (DenverRider)      Join Date: Feb 2013       11-02-2016, 9:08 AM Reply   
Don't know why this one says not to grab the back toe edge.
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Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-02-2016, 10:40 AM Reply   
because that would a Tindy grab ... the laziest of them all!!! Never grab Tindy!
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       11-02-2016, 2:58 PM Reply   
I know this upsets many but I like the look of a slob grab on a frontside spin. It puts the rider in a nice crouch position that you get with indy but also 'leads' the board in the spin. Anyway, each to their own. As long as you grab something in the air! (Someone once said you should always come down with your hands full)

Last edited by razorjaw; 11-02-2016 at 2:59 PM. Reason: crail and slob mixed
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       11-02-2016, 5:09 PM Reply   
I'd rather see no grab than a bad grab. Spins that aren't grabbed can look good, but a bad grab is always a bad grab.

Grabbing outside the feet is just sloppy and doesn't exhibit good control over a trick.
Old     (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       11-02-2016, 6:04 PM Reply   
You spelled Melan wrong!
Old     (SteeleAxis)      Join Date: Oct 2012       11-03-2016, 12:31 PM Reply   
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Grabbing outside the feet is just sloppy and doesn't exhibit good control over a trick.
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Old     (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: SF Bay Area       11-03-2016, 1:59 PM Reply   
^^^^^^^^^^^Freakin FILTHY!
Old     (Ttime41)      Join Date: Nov 2011       11-03-2016, 4:13 PM Reply   
The one you have labeled as a nuclear is a seatbelt
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       11-03-2016, 5:33 PM Reply   
[QUOTE=SteeleAxis;1948409]Hideous!



Yeah, I'd better do a straight air rather than grab like that!

Last edited by razorjaw; 11-03-2016 at 5:35 PM. Reason: Got rid of the picture to get rid of doubleups
Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-03-2016, 5:44 PM Reply   
That's a Crail! Totally different grab since it's back hand on front of board!
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       11-03-2016, 5:45 PM Reply   
lol right. Because all of you who are missing your grabs are doing off axis japan air 360s so you get excused if you miss by two inches and end up in front of your boot...

I heard grabbing your boots mid air is cool as well

I hold the line- that would look better grabbed mute or crail. Alex Graydon knows
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Last edited by simplej; 11-03-2016 at 5:51 PM.
Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-03-2016, 5:57 PM Reply   
What is this one called? (sorry it's really hard to see)

Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       11-03-2016, 6:00 PM Reply   
tailfish
Old     (electricsnow)      Join Date: May 2002       11-03-2016, 8:40 PM Reply   
Slob and lien grabs are legitimate. The thing is, they're actually direction dependent and most people in wakeboarding don't know that. lein is like a melon grab on a frontside air (again, fully legitimate, invented by neil blender). A slob grab is the same as a mute but done frontside. Indys are also direction dependent: on a frontside air it's called a frontside grab, a backside air is an indy.

Still grab in between or right by the bindings, and not outside of them.
Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-04-2016, 5:55 AM Reply   
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tailfish
Definitely not a tailfish. arm is between the legs and grabbing the toe edge of the board between the boots.
Old     (waterdork88)      Join Date: Aug 2005       11-09-2016, 9:37 PM Reply   
At 2:48 is the mosquito grab
Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-10-2016, 6:02 AM Reply   
That's it!!
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       11-10-2016, 6:52 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by boardjnky4 View Post
Definitely not a tailfish. arm is between the legs and grabbing the toe edge of the board between the boots.
also the crappiest pic ever. def can't see that arm, if so, nice grab!
Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-10-2016, 6:54 AM Reply   
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also the crappiest pic ever. def can't see that arm, if so, nice grab!
yeah, ****ty photographer and tough conditions to get a decent shot. But that's all I had.
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       11-10-2016, 2:46 PM Reply   
John Halle - What an extraordinary set of grabs! I can't even figure out how to do half of those on dry land without a PFD getting in the way

Last edited by razorjaw; 11-10-2016 at 2:47 PM. Reason: Hit quick reply to John instead of reply.
Old     (you_da_man)      Join Date: Sep 2009       11-14-2016, 2:47 PM Reply   
One of the most underrated riders ever IMO was Mike Schwenne...the king of grabs, pokes, and putting steeze in the most basic tricks. He can make a HS W2W 180 look nasty.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UWlHf6KhAFY

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