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Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       06-27-2015, 6:20 PM Reply   
Going to pull the trigger on one of these boats soon. Need help!
Old     (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       06-27-2015, 6:22 PM Reply   
A Malibu or a supra? Really?
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       06-27-2015, 7:10 PM Reply   
Yep going to give them a shot.
Old     (T_A)      Join Date: Feb 2013       06-27-2015, 7:20 PM Reply   
Supra has tiny wake, go with malibu. I was close to buying a SC this year but after the demo and then spending a weekend behind an SA, I couldn't get the wake to get big. Ran 3000lbs in the SC and close to that in the SA also. Loved everything else about them but the wake was small compared to my 05 VLX much less nw bu or G.
Old     (johnny_defacto)      Join Date: Sep 2006       06-27-2015, 7:59 PM Reply   
G21... only $10-20k more probably. But definitely worth it.
Old     (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       06-27-2015, 8:00 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by DatTexasBoy View Post
Yep going to give them a shot.

I'm surprised. I demoed a f22 and MXZ last fall and felt the f22 had the better wakeboard wake. Don't know anything about the Supra. With the 2800 internal ballast seems like it's hard to beat the f22. But change is fun so understand that.
Old     (Shane10p)      Join Date: Jul 2013       06-27-2015, 9:03 PM Reply   
Both are top notch boats and I'm sure you'll enjoy whatever you choose. I can't say I have spent much time or any for that matter in the MXZ but have spent a lot in the SA , SC and my SE this year. I switched from Malibu a couple years back into the SA and loved the boat handled amazing under a load and the fit and finish was great. My one and only issue with it was that lack of freeboard .... And that's been fixed for 2016 just saw the new SA and it's awesome looking !! Also had a buddy who got to ride behind it at the dealer meeting and he said the wake was great. I really think that the Raptor power plant is the best on the market right now and have loved my 450 in my SE. As for the statement above about the tiny wake I never had the issue in my SA , found the wake to be very clean and big with no extra weight and 4-5 in the boat and I ran a extra 1100lbs every once and a while and it was massive ! I would wait until that new SA comes out has some really cool upgrades that I think people with really dig.
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       06-28-2015, 5:23 AM Reply   
Shane10 that is great news. Didn't know they were adding freeboard. That will definitely factor into the equation. My wife doesn't like to drive as it is and with the extra height she doesn't have to worry about taking on water as much. I like the styling of both boats. Each has its Pros and cons. I like the screen on the Maliview but it's nice to have toggles if you get in a bind. Guess I'll hold out for pics of the new SA and see what it looks like.
Old     (chattwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       06-28-2015, 9:13 AM Reply   
Go demo both. Otherwise you are just guessing. I'd add a 22vlx to that list. I got mine yesterday and I'm thrilled with it.
Old     (Bamabonners)      Join Date: Jul 2011       06-28-2015, 9:23 AM Reply   
Why not a T22 or A22 and save thousands?
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       06-28-2015, 9:31 AM Reply   
I've had two Axis boat's. Just time to make a move.
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       06-28-2015, 9:33 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by chattwake View Post
Go demo both. Otherwise you are just guessing. I'd add a 22vlx to that list. I got mine yesterday and I'm thrilled with it.
Chatt,

I have just wanted a couple of opinions. You know I'm coming off of 2-A22's and 2-MB's. Just trying to take the next step.

Thanks sir
Old     (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       06-28-2015, 9:36 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by DatTexasBoy View Post
Chatt,

I have just wanted a couple of opinions. You know I'm coming off of 2-A22's and 2-MB's. Just trying to take the next step.

Thanks sir

Why not skip the baby step then and go right to a G!
Old     (501s)      Join Date: Feb 2010       06-28-2015, 9:59 AM Reply   
Don't demo a G, it will only point out the short comings off all the other boats . After having spent a week riding G23s I can say they are absolutely a step above.

But if a G is out of your price range, I'd take a look at the T23, I was very very impressed with this boat too.
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       06-28-2015, 10:03 AM Reply   
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Why not skip the baby step then and go right to a G!
The people I work for have a G25. Yes that is the leader of the pack right now but I can't afford the payment or the gas bill. I know my limitations.
Old     (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       06-28-2015, 10:06 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by DatTexasBoy View Post
The people I work for have a G25. Yes that is the leader of the pack right now but I can't afford the payment or the gas bill. I know my limitations.

I know what u mean! I can't either! Just like to live vicariously thru all u forum guys that can!
Old     (Bit)      Join Date: Aug 2014       06-29-2015, 5:08 AM Reply   
you don't need a G25 - G21 or G23 are fine and don't suck that much gas - sometimes you find some nice priced used G's. And imho a G21 has more usable space then a MXZ22.

The only thing i don't like on the T23, no PowerWedge 2).

Last edited by Bit; 06-29-2015 at 5:11 AM.
Old     (rdlangston13)      Join Date: Feb 2011       06-29-2015, 5:47 AM Reply   
I know you already know this but Moomba and Supra owners have a pretty good party in Texas every summer.
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       06-29-2015, 6:33 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by rdlangston13 View Post
I know you already know this but Moomba and Supra owners have a pretty good party in Texas every summer.
And I'm booked for that party, no matter what boat I bring. Lol
Old     (rdlangston13)      Join Date: Feb 2011       06-29-2015, 6:46 AM Reply   
Just remember, all non Moombas and Supra in attendance are fair game for the water balloon launchers....muahahahaha
Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       06-29-2015, 7:00 AM Reply   
I'm a huge fan of the MXZ and a friend of mine that rode behind the Supra also said the wake is small.

Also, Malibu is getting the Raptor engine lineup in 2016, so powerplants will be no different.
Old     (chattwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       06-29-2015, 7:52 AM Reply   
DTB - sorry for the short response. I guess what I meant is that, you really need to sit in each boat to see how they will fit your crew. The MXZ is designed to maximize the room in the bow of the boat. Some people love that, some don't. Personally, I'm in the camp where I would rather have extra room in the cabin. The bow is for a big triangle sac, or for a couple of girls to get some sun while we are cruising. That's about it. I like having a lot of cabin space so everyone on the boat can hang out together. That's one of the reasons I ended up buying a 22VLX this year. It's noticeably smaller than the A24 I had last season, but there is still plenty of room on the boat. We had 14 on it on Saturday. It was crowded, but totally doable.
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       06-29-2015, 9:04 AM Reply   
Thanks, I think we are kind of inbetween those two. We usually only have 8 or 9 and seem to always have 2 to 3 up front. They are usually kids or wives, they don't take up much room.
Old     (Bamabonners)      Join Date: Jul 2011       06-29-2015, 2:40 PM Reply   
I still say load up a T22 or T23 and save money... But I can understand wanting the VLX as well. I would prefer the VLX to the MXZ - more room in cockpit.
Old     (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       06-29-2015, 3:28 PM Reply   
Chatt, have you posted pics of your new ride yet??
Old     (YYCBoarder)      Join Date: Apr 2013       06-29-2015, 4:02 PM Reply   
IMO, a G is harder to ride than a malibu unless you're an advanced rider. The G wake is clean and rampy but big (even with ballasts empty) and very wide. I haven't ridden the mxz but the vlx is much more mellow, super clean at any speed, predictable, and less intimidating. I actually really liked it.

Ride them all to see how predictable, clean and how sensitive the wake is to weight distribution. It's a pain to have to make people move around all the time.
Old     (Tims)      Join Date: Feb 2014       06-30-2015, 6:21 AM Reply   
For sure wait until you can ride the new SA. Brand new hull for 2016. I hope to ride on one this weekend
Old     (chattwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       06-30-2015, 7:07 AM Reply   
Delta, here's a pic I snapped with my phone on Saturday. I'll post up more soon and do a full write up. I just want to get some pictures of the wake and wave as well.
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Old     (chattwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       06-30-2015, 7:14 AM Reply   
Well, there's this picture too.
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Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       06-30-2015, 7:25 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by chattwake View Post
Delta, here's a pic I snapped with my phone on Saturday. I'll post up more soon and do a full write up. I just want to get some pictures of the wake and wave as well.
Man you always come up with an awesome deal and great looking boat.
Old     (chattwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       06-30-2015, 7:35 AM Reply   
Thanks DTB!
Old     (ScottR)      Join Date: Aug 2011       06-30-2015, 8:17 AM Reply   
Jealous..... of the "boat" of course!!!
Old     (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       06-30-2015, 9:08 AM Reply   
I have not seen the new 2016 Supra SA, but heard it is awesome... Seems like a smaller version of the SE. I am going to strongly consider this boat next year myself.
I saw someone earlier in the post say the SC and SA have tiny wakes..... Huh? Did you really get on one and the sales guy knew how to weight it and use the SWELL or are you just trying to stir the pot? If you ever want a demo in Portland, OR, come on out. We have ours dialed up. Ours is an SC though.

As others have said, get out and demo and see what you guys like. We all have our opinions and you probably can't go wrong with either of these choices
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       06-30-2015, 9:28 AM Reply   
I'm in the same mindset as preston.

I've owned many XStars and MXZs. I now have a 2015 A22. I don't miss anything about the more expensive boats, except for maybe a complete windshield. My wake is better than ever and I'm riding better than ever. Touch screens and power features don't make my experience any better.
Old     (T_A)      Join Date: Feb 2013       06-30-2015, 10:46 AM Reply   
Not trying to stir any pots...I was really ready to sign papers on an SC assuming demo went well. Not sure if the sales guy knew how to dial it in but we put 3000lbs in it and tried the wake plate all over and couldn't even get it knee high. The next weekend I spent 3 days behind an SA and we put as much weight in it as the 350 and 1235 could handle and the wake was marginal at best. Still about knee high maybe...I was expecting a wake like a G since supra was trying to copy them in every other way with the boat but was very disappointed. Just make sure you ride it first cause I was expecting much more than I got behind that boat. Diggs how much weight you put in yours? I'm betting it takes 4-5000lbs to get on the level I was expecting...
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       06-30-2015, 12:17 PM Reply   
Thanks for all the info guys. I signed the papers on my new boat. Hope to see it first of August. 😎😁
Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       06-30-2015, 12:41 PM Reply   
you tease
Old     (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       06-30-2015, 1:06 PM Reply   
Chatt before I weigh in on how nice your new boat is I think we need to see a rear view also! (;
Old     (T_A)      Join Date: Feb 2013       06-30-2015, 1:10 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by tyler97217 View Post
I have not seen the new 2016 Supra SA, but heard it is awesome... Seems like a smaller version of the SE. I am going to strongly consider this boat next year myself.
I saw someone earlier in the post say the SC and SA have tiny wakes..... Huh? Did you really get on one and the sales guy knew how to weight it and use the SWELL or are you just trying to stir the pot? If you ever want a demo in Portland, OR, come on out. We have ours dialed up. Ours is an SC though.

As others have said, get out and demo and see what you guys like. We all have our opinions and you probably can't go wrong with either of these choices
I was referring to wakeboard wake only. Surf wake took awhile to dial but was good.
Old     (Khyber)      Join Date: Mar 2013       06-30-2015, 1:23 PM Reply   
DTB - Have you sold the MB?
Old     (jonblarc7)      Join Date: Jul 2006       06-30-2015, 1:54 PM Reply   
DTB just saw you ordered a 2016 SA400 congrats. You should do a write up on how you like it.
Old     (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       06-30-2015, 2:37 PM Reply   
Tony
Were you in deep water and monitoring speed? We are running about 3200lbs and will be honest that we don't really wake board any more, but I can see it back there and have pulled a few guys that were crapping their pants. We actually let 1/2 the water out of the rear compartments. Wake board wake cleans up at 18mph and that is loaded. Sucks you did not like it or see it dialed. Everyone has what works for them and there is not a bad choice out there.
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       06-30-2015, 2:49 PM Reply   
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DTB just saw you ordered a 2016 SA400 congrats. You should do a write up on how you like it.
As soon as I get it and I'm able to spend some time in it, I will definitely do a good write up on it.

Not sure of delivery date yet.
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       06-30-2015, 2:52 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by Khyber View Post
DTB - Have you sold the MB?


Yes a guy out of Utah bought it and took delivery of it last Thursday.
Old     (ScottR)      Join Date: Aug 2011       07-01-2015, 12:29 PM Reply   
Ron = Spot on!!
Old     (chattwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       07-01-2015, 12:43 PM Reply   
Ok...
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Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       07-01-2015, 12:51 PM Reply   
Hey Chatt, you hijacked my thread.
Old     (chattwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       07-01-2015, 1:29 PM Reply   
Hahaha sorry!
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       07-02-2015, 4:00 PM Reply   
Spray Date July 21st.

Man its going to be a long month. Just like watching grass grow!
Old     (Tims)      Join Date: Feb 2014       07-02-2015, 4:47 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by DatTexasBoy View Post
Spray Date July 21st.

Man its going to be a long month. Just like watching grass grow!
I just got the water surfing and boarding behind the 2016 SA. You are going to be very happy with your choice. I just might trade in the SC for it next year.
Old     (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       07-02-2015, 4:49 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by chattwake View Post
Ok...

Oh u dirty dog! I'm a forever chatt fan now!!!!
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       07-02-2015, 5:42 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by Tims View Post
I just got the water surfing and boarding behind the 2016 SA. You are going to be very happy with your choice. I just might trade in the SC for it next year.
Man that's what I keep hearing. I'm pretty pumped.
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       07-04-2015, 5:38 AM Reply   


Well here she is. I think it will look twice as good in person.
Old     (Tims)      Join Date: Feb 2014       07-04-2015, 8:02 PM Reply   
^^^^^That is not what the new SA looks like at all.......
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       07-05-2015, 6:41 AM Reply   
Tims,

I realize that, just put something together on the website with the colors I ordered.

Top deck and hull are Platinum
Accents are Ruben Red and the side is Charcoal Flake.
Old     (Supravol22)      Join Date: Jul 2013       07-05-2015, 10:01 AM Reply   
That's going to look sweet! Congrats!
Old     (Tims)      Join Date: Feb 2014       07-05-2015, 12:45 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by DatTexasBoy View Post
Tims,

I realize that, just put something together on the website with the colors I ordered.

Top deck and hull are Platinum
Accents are Ruben Red and the side is Charcoal Flake.

Going to be a nice looking boat. Congrats.
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       07-05-2015, 1:16 PM Reply   
Thanks guys. I cant wait.
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       07-13-2015, 1:44 PM Reply   
New boat sprays in 7 days..........HURRY!!!!!! Christmas in July!
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       07-13-2015, 1:52 PM Reply   
Great looking boat!!!
Old     (Gary)      Join Date: Mar 2010       07-13-2015, 6:42 PM Reply   
DTB / Tims is the new SA hull completely have the look of the boat? I am just curious if it will like an SE sitting it the water or if it will still be so low to the water?
Old     (Tims)      Join Date: Feb 2014       07-13-2015, 7:26 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary View Post
DTB / Tims is the new SA hull completely have the look of the boat? I am just curious if it will like an SE sitting it the water or if it will still be so low to the water?
Looks nothing like the old SA.
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       07-14-2015, 5:24 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by Tims View Post
Looks nothing like the old SA.
Tim's you want to meet me halfway to Texas with mine? Lol
Old     (Tims)      Join Date: Feb 2014       07-14-2015, 5:57 AM Reply   
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Tim's you want to meet me halfway to Texas with mine? Lol
Haha!! Only if I get to demo it.
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       07-14-2015, 5:59 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by Tims View Post
Haha!! Only if I get to demo it.
Deal. Pick a spot.
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       07-14-2015, 9:05 AM Reply   
Guess I'll schedule my tour of the plant very soon then.
Old     (Gary)      Join Date: Mar 2010       07-14-2015, 7:10 PM Reply   
Nice any idea where to find photos or when supra plans on releasing something about it
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       07-15-2015, 4:42 AM Reply   
Thx, I'm not sure of the release date and I don't have any photos, but there are some other guys on here that may be able to chime in on that.

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