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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-04-2022, 11:17 AM Reply   
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I am glad you don’t mind living in a place where your rights as a citizen don’t mean as much to you. I am glad your ok giving up 3 months of your life
It's amazing to me that Americans aren't willing to give up some personal freedoms to save literally thousands of lives.

To see the contrast to our grandfather's generation, the sacrifices they made and our generation complaining about wearing a mask, getting a vaccine and locking down for a few months is embarrassing. People are going around shouting freedom like they are William Wallace.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       02-04-2022, 6:18 PM Reply   
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It's amazing to me that Americans aren't willing to give up some personal freedoms to save literally thousands of lives.

To see the contrast to our grandfather's generation, the sacrifices they made and our generation complaining about wearing a mask, getting a vaccine and locking down for a few months is embarrassing. People are going around shouting freedom like they are William Wallace.
Because if you knew and understood anything about a free society, you’d know that when you give an inch they move forward an inch and half, and before you know it you lost everything.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-04-2022, 6:35 PM Reply   
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Because if you knew and understood anything about a free society, you’d know that when you give an inch they move forward an inch and half, and before you know it you lost everything.
Oh for sure one minute your consenting to wear a mask, nek minute your in a gimp suit juggling some blokes balls.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       02-04-2022, 6:57 PM Reply   
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Oh for sure one minute your consenting to wear a mask, nek minute your in a gimp suit juggling some blokes balls.
You got it wrong again. The mask is the gimp suit.


I am not sure how hard it is to understand the fight is about the tyrannical federal and state mandates that were put in place completely ignoring the law and constitutions of each. We have a process with a legal precedent this country was founded on , and it’s been ignored completely by a political party for political gain. It’s that simple. Allow it to happen with no fight and the next tyrannical mandate will be soon behind

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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-04-2022, 9:52 PM Reply   
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We have a process with a legal precedent this country was founded on , and it’s been ignored completely by a political party for political gain.
Uh huh, what covid policies are materially different from the policies set out by the trump wh?
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       02-05-2022, 4:06 AM Reply   
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Uh huh, what covid policies are materially different from the policies set out by the trump wh?
making companies require them, by pressuring them, then firing people! that 1. how about firing healthcare workers, who have already had covid. who were the hero's who saved lives, then were ostracized them on every left wing media outlet. Or telling restaurant owner they have to lose their business, and cannot open, because they are not "essential " all the while the leftist, who enforced these "rules for you but not for me" were having dinner parties "that were private" getting their hair cut, in the closed salon, while all salons were "dangerous"

C'mon there are so many examples that you cannot act like it was "the same" Trump was a fool, for one simple reason. HE allowed Fauci to be on his panel. The man behind the funding of the GAIN of FUNCTION that has killed millions, who will never see a jail cell, who covered up the truth, who damaged all our lives while thousands of doctors and scientist new this was a sham kept their mouths shut because they knew they would be CANCELLED! Because the left is a WOKE, cancel culture, destroyer of everything NOT THEIR WAY!

Trump made mistakes, Biden intentionally made damaging policy. More people died under Biden, with Vaccines than the first year of this mess under trump. Facts dont matter anymore, because the left only cares about their agenda, and not the people.

If masked really worked, they would have them on their faces at the football game, but they know they dont, so they take them off. Obviously not afraid of Omicron, and they know the vaccine is not going to stop them getting it or spreading it!

Biden has done everything he can to stop medications to aid in treating covid, so he and his left agenda can force vaccines. Florida is a prime example. So please stop
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       02-05-2022, 3:50 AM Reply   
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It's amazing to me that Americans aren't willing to give up some personal freedoms to save literally thousands of lives.

To see the contrast to our grandfather's generation, the sacrifices they made and our generation complaining about wearing a mask, getting a vaccine and locking down for a few months is embarrassing. People are going around shouting freedom like they are William Wallace.
we give up personal freedoms all the time. Its the hypocrisy of the left, demanding people do what they say but not what they do. The vaccine was never the "problem" it was the way the left leveraged it against the people. Making promises to not mandate healthcare choices, then enforcing mandates, without long term data. This vaccine is and will be the most controversial measure argued for many years, 10 years from now. Science was flipped upside down for politics. The left destroyed peoples lives, jobs, pensions. and homes. Suicide rates skyrocket, companies went bankrupt, drug overdoses are off the charts etc etc etc

Scientists were too afraid to tell the truth! Now they are starting to open up. The damage is already done. Trust is a difficult thing to regain, and the left has destroyed what trust we had in the system. No different than the hypocrisy that occurred in Australia and NZ.

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