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Originally Posted by 95sn

You would rather have dead people than living? WTF? He didnt vax, lied about them and then died of Covid. Winner !!! Thats the one you choose? Why blame me for politicizing his death, Did I go out and say Vaccines dont work? That was Meat. Ddid I refuse to vax up? Did the Fatman refuse to vax up?
If you want to appear like you are For Vaccines, maybe stop your daily misinformation sessions and just say, Get vaccinated, get boosted.
Wanna know why the mandates?
1. they work.
2. Some people, like Meat, would be alive today if they were vaxxed.
3. There is zero downside to reducing risk.

Should their be a mandate to save lives. like no Abortions, that would save over 1milliion lives a year? Would that be fair? So mandating things seems to be the wave the left likes to sling, Freedom of choice, a very left movement, only applies to childbirth, but not vaccines? Seems strange that its a person right to kill something, but not to choose a vaccine? Maybe we should mandate all women have to use birth control? Or all Democrats have to pay higher taxes to offset their spending agenda.

We can make a lot of mandates, but if freedom to choose is important to anyone, the choice to anything or everything will hinge on the people willing to give up their rights.

Last time i checked, the left is very angry with Roe v Wade being turned. Seems they want to keep the right to choose?

Originally Posted by dougr

Should their be a mandate to save lives. like no Abortions, that would save over 1milliion lives a year? Would that be fair? So mandating things seems to be the wave the left likes to sling, Freedom of choice, a very left movement, only applies to childbirth, but not vaccines? Seems strange that its a person right to kill something, but not to choose a vaccine? Maybe we should mandate all women have to use birth control? Or all Democrats have to pay higher taxes to offset their spending agenda.

We can make a lot of mandates, but if freedom to choose is important to anyone, the choice to anything or everything will hinge on the people willing to give up their rights.

Last time i checked, the left is very angry with Roe v Wade being turned. Seems they want to keep the right to choose?

So, are we attempting to compare abortions with vaccinations? 5 seconds for prick on the arm with forced parenthood, minimum 18 years of the time and $ to raise a child? Seems a pretty crazy comparison if you think about it for a quick minute.
We have plenty of "mandates" and laws to "save lives". Seatbelts, drinking and driving laws, 1000's of OSHA rules at work, gun laws, laws making it illegal to strike another, dozens of laws on consumer products, building and safety laws when building...its endless.
As long as were just throwing ish at the wall why not make it illegal for a man to impregnate a woman? She cant need an abortion w/o his seed, right? Should we make a law to financially support all children born w/ a single mother? Should the state, FED or the father pay? Should we mandate castration pills to all men of age? Should all men who impregnate a woman who eventually has an abortion be jailed? 7th grade health says it takes 2 to tango.
Due to the higher taxes Blue states pay, they are able to support the poor red states.
"Here’s the irony. Residents of “blue” states send more tax money to Washington than they get back in federal help, while residents of “red” states send less money to Washington than they get back in federal help.

In 2015, for example, New Jersey got back only 74 cents in federal spending for every tax dollar it sent to Washington. New York got back 81 cents, Connecticut: 82 cents, and Massachusetts: 83 cents.

But when you turn to the red states, it’s the opposite. Mississippi received $2.13 for every tax dollar it sent to Washington. West Virginia: $2.07. Kentucky: $1.90. And South Carolina: $1.71.
Under Trump’s new tax law, blue states will be giving even more welfare handouts to red states. That’s because the law set new limits to the amount of state and local taxes people can deduct from their federal taxable incomes. And since people in blue states pay much more state and local taxes than people in red states, blue-staters will be paying that much more in federal taxes.
Which means an even bigger transfer from blue state residents to all those red state Republican voters, whose party despises handouts.

Originally Posted by 95sn

So, are we attempting to compare abortions with vaccinations? 5 seconds for prick on the arm with forced parenthood, minimum 18 years of the time and $ to raise a child? Seems a pretty crazy comparison if you think about it for a quick minute.
We have plenty of "mandates" and laws to "save lives". Seatbelts, drinking and driving laws, 1000's of OSHA rules at work, gun laws, laws making it illegal to strike another, dozens of laws on consumer products, building and safety laws when building...its endless.
As long as were just throwing ish at the wall why not make it illegal for a man to impregnate a woman? She cant need an abortion w/o his seed, right? Should we make a law to financially support all children born w/ a single mother? Should the state, FED or the father pay? Should we mandate castration pills to all men of age? Should all men who impregnate a woman who eventually has an abortion be jailed? 7th grade health says it takes 2 to tango.
Due to the higher taxes Blue states pay, they are able to support the poor red states.
"Here’s the irony. Residents of “blue” states send more tax money to Washington than they get back in federal help, while residents of “red” states send less money to Washington than they get back in federal help.

In 2015, for example, New Jersey got back only 74 cents in federal spending for every tax dollar it sent to Washington. New York got back 81 cents, Connecticut: 82 cents, and Massachusetts: 83 cents.

But when you turn to the red states, it’s the opposite. Mississippi received $2.13 for every tax dollar it sent to Washington. West Virginia: $2.07. Kentucky: $1.90. And South Carolina: $1.71.
Under Trump’s new tax law, blue states will be giving even more welfare handouts to red states. That’s because the law set new limits to the amount of state and local taxes people can deduct from their federal taxable incomes. And since people in blue states pay much more state and local taxes than people in red states, blue-staters will be paying that much more in federal taxes.
Which means an even bigger transfer from blue state residents to all those red state Republican voters, whose party despises handouts.

Considering the blue states make the red states not produce food and pay them to not do so is part of that. If you want. Blue states can keep their money and the red states can keep their food and we can see how that works out.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Considering the blue states make the red states not produce food and pay them to not do so is part of that. If you want. Blue states can keep their money and the red states can keep their food and we can see how that works out.

So, the red states are living on socialism paid for by the Blue states, thanks for explaining it.

Originally Posted by 95sn

So, the red states are living on socialism paid for by the Blue states, thanks for explaining it.

wrong ol fluffy

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

wrong ol fluffy

Wrong? Can you explain how the red states financially support Blue states? Ive read several studies that show high income blue states pay more in Fed taxes that is then distributed to poor red states. Perhaps you could explain and site sources defending your claim.

Speaking of Faux news, pretty classy of them to never mention antivax state trooper hero Robert Lemay after he dies of covid when previously boosting him as a brave patriot fighting against mandates. Doesn't tell the right narrative I guess.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Wrong? Can you explain how the red states financially support Blue states? Ive read several studies that show high income blue states pay more in Fed taxes that is then distributed to poor red states. Perhaps you could explain and site sources defending your claim.

defend your claim. Blue states tend to have financial centers and most of the sea ports. It was a natural part of commerce. If the red states are buying product from there, they are supporting the blue states. usaully when you read those red state, blue state deals, they don't tell the whole story. It is also more expensive to live in blue states due to regulations. Thus wages go up or they can not attract workers, thus they pay more in taxes. Then they try and normalize the inflated relative money back to absolute money and say blue is paying more than the Red.

How much food does the Red States send to the blue states? Can you live without food or can you live without money?