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Old     (moosemac81)      Join Date: Oct 2008       03-24-2009, 2:02 PM Reply   
Does anyone pull their big boat with smaller trucks?Upload
Old     (rbeckei)      Join Date: May 2007       03-24-2009, 2:15 PM Reply   
YES-- Check profile.
Old     (dh03r6)      Join Date: Mar 2007       03-24-2009, 3:55 PM Reply   
tige 22i towed by a 2001 nissan frontier
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       03-24-2009, 4:08 PM Reply   
In Seattle there was a guy I ran into a couple times 2 years ago that was towing an 06 X30 with an early 2000's extended cab tacoma 4x4. That looked dangerous as hell.
Old     (illkid)      Join Date: Sep 2006       03-24-2009, 4:10 PM Reply   
'98 Cherokee + '97 Supersport

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Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       03-24-2009, 4:12 PM Reply   
I pull an xstar with a honda ridgeline
Old     (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       03-24-2009, 4:20 PM Reply   
Yikes..... the MC dealer here tried to convince me that I could pull an Xstar with a Honda Pilot.

I pulled a 4000 lb Vride with a 2007 Dodge Nitro (5000 cap., V6, AT).... didn't care for it & upgraded the truck.

Also pulled a 3500 MC 205 with a 98 Dodge Dakota (6200 lb cap., 5.2 liter V8, AT) with no problem at all.

5000 lb limit & a boat/trailer combo that could easily be 5000 lbs or over? I didn't believe him.
But I guess there are people out there that will do it.

(Message edited by bill_airjunky on March 24, 2009)
Old     (bigshow)      Join Date: Feb 2005       03-24-2009, 4:26 PM Reply   
My brother bulled a 16 ft Starcraft with a 67 hp diesel Rabbit
Old     (billhall)      Join Date: Jun 2006       03-24-2009, 4:31 PM Reply   
you guys aint got nothing. I wish I had a picture but one of my customers has been pulling his 1997 Nautique super sport with his 1998 ford tauras for years....and he pulls from Northern Wisconsin to Illinois several times during the year.
Old     (rem_pss308)      Join Date: Mar 2004       03-24-2009, 4:57 PM Reply   
1999 X-star with a Toyota Tacoma quad cab. V-6 pull with it out of overdrive. does fine.
Old     (cdm)      Join Date: Aug 2003       03-24-2009, 5:03 PM Reply   
In the day pulled my 00' X-Star with "Mable the Mercury Sable" a 1988 Mercury Sable V6.
Old     (mars)      Join Date: Aug 2005       03-24-2009, 5:04 PM Reply   
most of us probably "overtow"... full size pickups pulling john boats. made the switch from full size to mid size (tacoma)-with the canadian market (TSB) rear springs its fine for our 22ft'er.
Old     (moosemac81)      Join Date: Oct 2008       03-24-2009, 5:23 PM Reply   
Yeah I pull it fine but I take it easy on the hills. The real question is how is it launching the boat into the water? I am worried about the slick ramp! I guess 4 low and go huh!!
Old     (slax303)      Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Portland to Boston       03-24-2009, 5:43 PM Reply   
Up until this year I pulled an 05 MB B52V with a 94 Jeep Grand Cherokee. It got about 9 mpg doin it, but it handled alright. Finally upgraded to a Yukon though. Much better
Old     (gti2lo)      Join Date: Nov 2005       03-24-2009, 5:51 PM Reply   
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2008 Touareg V8 all the options..towing 08 X-Star.


No flaming about trailer.. service rental from my local dealer.
Old     (lfrider92)      Join Date: Sep 2008       03-24-2009, 6:09 PM Reply   
check profile. this is how its done
Old     (saceone)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-24-2009, 6:15 PM Reply   
^^ERROR 404 DRIVESHAFT NOT FOUND^^


lol.
Old     (bobenglish)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-24-2009, 9:17 PM Reply   
08 x-star with a manual Tacoma 4x4. No sweat.
Old     (stuntmonkey)      Join Date: Feb 2009       03-24-2009, 9:24 PM Reply   
Would love a tacoma, great trucks. But they are the same price as a freaking tundra up here!
Old     (2007_x2)      Join Date: May 2007       03-24-2009, 9:51 PM Reply   
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Old     (themxercr85)      Join Date: Jul 2007       03-24-2009, 10:01 PM Reply   
we tow our x-star with an '07 suburban LTZ 6.1, it does great.
Old     (wakebrdr38)      Join Date: Sep 2006       03-24-2009, 10:48 PM Reply   
Jeep Liberty Limited 4x4 does awesome for me, and before that it was a Ranger and it did pretty good too
Old     (haven)      Join Date: Apr 2003       03-25-2009, 2:18 AM Reply   
my little sedan gets pushed around a bit.

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Old     (konaking)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-25-2009, 5:58 AM Reply   
Pulling is not the problem. How about STOPPING
Old     (illini88)      Join Date: Oct 2007       03-25-2009, 6:25 AM Reply   
I used to pull a 20 footer with my camaro convertible.
Old     (gti2lo)      Join Date: Nov 2005       03-25-2009, 7:09 PM Reply   
Stopping is not a problem with the Touarag! Heck any 1 ton truck would envy the brakes!

I've got 6 piston calipers on 13.5" rotors in the front and 4 piston's in the rear with 12.5" rotors
Old     (deltabri)      Join Date: Feb 2009       03-25-2009, 8:48 PM Reply   
2001 Centurion Air Warrior with 2005 GMC Canyon 4x4 Crew. Pulls the boat right up the steep delta ramps.
Old     (lowend)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-25-2009, 10:35 PM Reply   
n starla
Is that a calais v mate?
My falcon gets pushed around a bit too.
and its a manualUpload
Old     (stxr_racer)      Join Date: Jun 2006       03-25-2009, 10:57 PM Reply   
Haven...lovin your 210

Here's mine towed by a Nissan Navara (Titan in your neck of the woods??)
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Old     (haven)      Join Date: Apr 2003       03-26-2009, 2:11 AM Reply   
lowen, yeah mate calais v, but wish i still had my ute

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Old     (mars)      Join Date: Aug 2005       03-26-2009, 2:11 AM Reply   
Nissan Navara = Frontier, not Titan. Titan is an over the top full figured truck for the US market only as far as I can tell.
We used to have a Titan but it was just plain more than we needed. Fun though. Over 300hp, very thirsty, couldn't park it easily. Did tow very well but in a hunting squirrels with RPGs kind of way.
Old     (sinisalo)      Join Date: Nov 2006       03-26-2009, 3:22 AM Reply   
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In Sweden It´s called Nissan King Cab Navara (diesel)

BTW great tow truck
Old     (lovin_the_wake)      Join Date: Jul 2007       03-26-2009, 7:25 AM Reply   
My 4runner pulls and stops just fine but going up steep hills is a different story
Old     (lifetimewarranty)      Join Date: Oct 2008       03-26-2009, 7:40 AM Reply   
I have been wishing that we could get some of those small diesel rigs here for a long time. 300 lb ft of torque at 2000 rpm - 3.2 litre! Awesome. If we could get a 400 lb ft diesel full size suv package, that would be perfect, IMO.

Funny here in ca that if you want a diesel, you have to have the biggest freegin rig capable of towing a small home.

Now - an interesting question I have. What kind of mileage does it get - guys are claiming high teens with the monster full size diesel trucks on this site towing boats, and some claim over 20 when not towing.

Care to let us know, Jens? with and without the boat...

BTW - my dad has that same truck, but the extended cab - NISMO package (whatever that means). I believe he gets around 19 hwy with the gas V6 - not towing obviously.
Old     (chikara22)      Join Date: Oct 2006       03-26-2009, 8:25 AM Reply   
Threadjack:Anyone notice the Ford Falcon pictures from the guys abroad? Looks like a Mustang with a truck bed:Threadjack over
Old     (captain_542)      Join Date: Oct 2006       03-26-2009, 9:00 AM Reply   
Nissan Pathfinder V6 tows a malibu LSV. back end bottoms on the bumps but it stops ok ish. I kinda wish i went with a frontier and not a pathy though.
Old     (05elitevc4)      Join Date: Jan 2008       03-26-2009, 10:05 AM Reply   
some of those dont look to bad...others like the car...WOW! Heres how i look at it: if everything is fine and all you have to do is tow and stop you could pull it around with lots of things like we see here. But whats going to happen when you blow a tire? or heaven forbid two tires? or trailer falls off the ball? In my mind you want to be prepared for a "worst case" scenario. Sorry guys but that boat would take some of those smaller vehicles wherever it wanted to if something bad happened. i tow with an 07 crew cab duramax and i would still hate to see my boat jackknifed behind that truck and it weighs 9K. Best of luck, and god speed!
Old     (05elitevc4)      Join Date: Jan 2008       03-26-2009, 10:07 AM Reply   
some of those dont look to bad...others like the car...WOW! Heres how i look at it: if everything is fine and all you have to do is tow and stop you could pull it around with lots of things like we see here. But whats going to happen when you blow a tire? or heaven forbid two tires? or trailer falls off the ball? In my mind you want to be prepared for a "worst case" scenario. Sorry guys but that boat would take some of those smaller vehicles wherever it wanted to if something bad happened. i tow with an 07 crew cab duramax and i would still hate to see my boat jackknifed behind that truck and it weighs 9K. Best of luck, and god speed!
Old     (05elitevc4)      Join Date: Jan 2008       03-26-2009, 10:08 AM Reply   
oops...
Old     (fernslinger)      Join Date: Jun 2008       03-26-2009, 1:44 PM Reply   
I don't have any pics of the truck pulling the boat but, my 95' Tacoma 4x4 regular cab
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Pulls this with no problem.
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Old     (tj_in_kc)      Join Date: Jan 2008       03-26-2009, 1:50 PM Reply   
dude, most people don't even know about the Touareg....that is one amazing vehicle! I think the tow cap is like 10,000lbs on that.

and its super nice inside!
Old     (hawk22)      Join Date: Jul 2006       03-26-2009, 2:16 PM Reply   
Is there anything I can do to my truck that will help its towing capability? I have an 03 Dodge Dakota w/ V8 4.7L. It struggles to keep gear even when towing on the freeway. I have a couple mountain trips planned for summer and I'm not too confident it'll even make it.
Old     (lowend)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-26-2009, 2:31 PM Reply   
Yeah here is a photo of her from the front.
Time to upgrade though. Looking at a dual cab 4x4 Navara.
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Old     (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       03-26-2009, 2:32 PM Reply   
That 4.7 just isn't made for towing that kind of weight, Jeremy. I know they spec it as OK, but I don't think there are many owners who would agree with it.

It's the same list of mods as anything else to get more power, bigger exhaust, better quality air cleaner, and chip it. Also be sure your running close to stock sized tires & their fully inflated.

On second thought, North Cascade Highway, or even Stevens Pass isn't gonna be fun. Your BEST bet might be to get your buddy with a bigger truck to join you on the trip.
Old     (epic1)      Join Date: Oct 2006       03-26-2009, 2:43 PM Reply   
most modern suv/trucks seem to be geared poorly.
Old     (w00taz)      Join Date: Jun 2007       03-26-2009, 3:47 PM Reply   
/\ agree and it's getting worse! Chevy is taking 4.10's out completely unless it doesn't have the allison. I didn't want to shell out diesel prices when I bought my truck so I could afford my boat and scored 4.10's in a 1/2 ton truck with 5.3 liter. It rips when hooked up to my boat for a gas engine of its size.

I presume with the focus on MPG the mfg's are forced to run higher gears :-(
Old     (epic1)      Join Date: Oct 2006       03-26-2009, 8:42 PM Reply   
I had a 97 150 4.6 love the motor. not a diesel by any means, but it puts 300tq down, and thats fine, but it is not light, and it has 3.55's It HAS to do 6k rpm to get out of its own way. I think with 4.10's or 4.55s it would rip. And it gets about 14mpg, so losing a mile or two would be worth it if it moved. Now with wife willing we are in the market for a newer truck!
Old     (gwnkids)      Join Date: Nov 2003       03-26-2009, 9:15 PM Reply   
Well its not a small truck but it tows the "Condo" and the BoatUpload
Old     (smith86)      Join Date: Mar 2009       03-27-2009, 5:01 AM Reply   
now thats a cool picture.
Old     (ironcross25)      Join Date: Jul 2006       03-27-2009, 6:56 AM Reply   
Bryan,
Hows towing all that? looks like it would be wild
Old     (lifetimewarranty)      Join Date: Oct 2008       03-27-2009, 7:14 AM Reply   
Bryan - Very cool.
Old     (gwnkids)      Join Date: Nov 2003       03-27-2009, 7:21 AM Reply   
Towing is easy, just keep it at 60 and away we go. The only thing to watch for is dead ends. We got stuck once going to a new riding spot and took the wrong dirt road at 10pm. Backing up at night 100 yards took almost 1/2 hr.
Old     (daveronix199)      Join Date: Feb 2009       03-27-2009, 9:33 AM Reply   
Bryan i dont know what i like more... the boat, the Rv, or the truck... SICK
Old     (chas)      Join Date: Feb 2002       03-27-2009, 9:48 PM Reply   
Bryan
Where is the pic on the rocks?
I want to take the Tahoe out and play
Old     (twin2112)      Join Date: Jul 2010       03-20-2016, 8:18 PM Reply   
Has anyone towed with the new Colorado 2.8l diesel? I sure like the idea of a tow vehicle that fits easily in the garage (without folding mirrors) and gets 30 mpg.
http://youtu.be/JGDIwZkLQuI
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       03-21-2016, 6:00 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by hawk22 View Post
Is there anything I can do to my truck that will help its towing capability? I have an 03 Dodge Dakota w/ V8 4.7L. It struggles to keep gear even when towing on the freeway. I have a couple mountain trips planned for summer and I'm not too confident it'll even make it.
old thread, but you may be able to put a tune on your Dakota. I'm running a superchips 91 octane tow tune on my grand cherokee. night and day difference. higher RPM shift points, better fuel economy both while towing and not towing. can adjust for bigger tire size as well. Keeps trans cooler, Its a must IMO.
Old     (trayson)      Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vancouver WA       03-22-2016, 4:36 PM Reply   
Time to revive the thread! LOL.

I did this once in my 20's...



My first season of boat ownership:


Then upgraded the boat:


Finally upgraded the truck.
Old     (Epic21v)      Join Date: Jul 2013       03-22-2016, 8:09 PM Reply   
2015 Range Rover Sport HSE does fine towing the 2012 Epic 21v
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Old     (SteeleAxis)      Join Date: Oct 2012       03-22-2016, 11:19 PM Reply   
Not sure the Titan counts as small, but sure looks that way with the G behind it! LOL

Old     (twin2112)      Join Date: Jul 2010       04-14-2016, 12:25 AM Reply   
Well, I have not towed yet, but I got myself the Diesel Colorado. It drives great, has plenty of power and lots of bells and whistles!
Old     (aussieboarder)      Join Date: Jul 2013       04-14-2016, 4:31 AM Reply   
Who needs a 4x4 when you have a falcon
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Old     (opers13)      Join Date: Feb 2016       04-14-2016, 4:48 AM Reply   
2015 GC V6..will be hauling an Axis A20 this year. so excited about that...good bye Yamaha(it won;t be missed at all)
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Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       04-14-2016, 5:53 AM Reply   
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Well, I have not towed yet, but I got myself the Diesel Colorado. It drives great, has plenty of power and lots of bells and whistles!


Please report back on towing boat.

Also, any comments on rear seat space? Really liking this vehicle just nervous that when we decide to have children that car seats won't fit.
Old     (twin2112)      Join Date: Jul 2010       04-14-2016, 8:33 AM Reply   
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Please report back on towing boat.

Also, any comments on rear seat space? Really liking this vehicle just nervous that when we decide to have children that car seats won't fit.


I will certainly report back on towing. On rear seat space, it is definitely better than any 1/2 ton crew cab. My son is 5' 11" and says it is very comfortable for him. There should be no problem at all with car seats in the rear.
Old     (quimbola)      Join Date: May 2008       04-14-2016, 3:12 PM Reply   
Pulled fine, stopping took a bit longer.
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Old     (sscott0203)      Join Date: Sep 2007       04-15-2016, 4:53 AM Reply   
Used my jeep all last year, short distance to the ramp. Pulls fine, just have to take it easy. Got a dock and lift this year.

Old     (opers13)      Join Date: Feb 2016       04-15-2016, 4:58 AM Reply   
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Pulled fine, stopping took a bit longer.
Love the boat & Avant
Old     (twin2112)      Join Date: Jul 2010       05-22-2016, 8:50 PM Reply   
Finally got the boat out for a pull. The truck pulls great.

Drives fine, but droops a bit. May look at installing some load leveling airbags.
Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-23-2016, 5:16 AM Reply   
awesome! she's definitely sagging a bit. Any idea what your boat weighs?
Old     (twin2112)      Join Date: Jul 2010       05-23-2016, 7:10 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by boardjnky4 View Post
awesome! she's definitely sagging a bit. Any idea what your boat weighs?


I have not put it on a scale, but others with the same boat are about 5600 lbs.
Old     (newwhit)      Join Date: Mar 2007       05-23-2016, 8:38 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by moosemac81 View Post
Does anyone pull their big boat with smaller trucks?Upload
Anyone else tow wih a dakota? Looking for a midsized truck to tow my 2001 malibu vlx. Its about 3500lbs with equipment and gas. Another 1500 for trailer? So maybe 5000?
Old     (CALIV210)      Join Date: Jun 2015       05-23-2016, 10:33 AM Reply   
My buddy pulls with his Dakota all the time ..when its running good I pulls his boat very well . WHEN its running good ..im not a dakota fan and neither is he anymore .

I tried to talk him into a Tacoma and he went with the Dakota and has regretted it since day one.

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Old     (CALIV210)      Join Date: Jun 2015       05-23-2016, 11:48 AM Reply   
used to tow my skier with my 85 Toyota 4x4 ..did pretty good with the 5.29 gears
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Old     (CALIV210)      Join Date: Jun 2015       05-23-2016, 11:51 AM Reply   
heres a better image
Old     (alexair)      Join Date: Oct 2008       10-09-2016, 3:50 AM Reply   
This is my video edition about fails on ramp - maybe not exactly about this thread but who know: Don't forget to wipe out water after (The Best Footage - 2016 included)
Old     (svnfightsvn)      Join Date: Mar 2011       10-09-2016, 6:45 AM Reply   
That video was entertaining... how the hell do people get those big ass trucks in those situations?
Old     (alexair)      Join Date: Oct 2008       10-09-2016, 11:32 PM Reply   
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That video was entertaining... how the hell do people get those big ass trucks in those situations?
Surface on the ramps under water are so slippery that when they go enough deep into the water the vehicles lost the grip (and get ability a little float). All other work doing gravity - they slide into lake even with parking brakes. See at vid - many of them pull out with blocked rear wheels.
Old     (skiboarder)      Join Date: Oct 2006       10-10-2016, 7:30 AM Reply   
I used to tow my Malibu skier with a Crown Vic when I was in college. It looked weird, but that boat was tiny and the grandma car had a 5.0. I just upgraded the shocks.

I have a 4x4 1500 and just ordered a 25LSV. As much as I hate to spend it, It might be diesel time.

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