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Old     (augie_09)      Join Date: Mar 2011       02-21-2015, 11:06 AM Reply   
Anyone know if anything changed in the ronix bill line last 2 seasons? In '13, it was just bill. In 14, it was bill atr. This year there's bill atr and atr s.

I had 1 set on '13 bill 2 years ago and really liked it. Wanted to check on changes before buying.
Old     (augie_09)      Join Date: Mar 2011       02-23-2015, 5:40 AM Reply   
Anyone know what atr vs atr S is?
Old     (skiboarder)      Join Date: Oct 2006       02-23-2015, 6:09 AM Reply   
It has a lot more to do with a standardization of marketing terminology than anything. The shapes are exactly the same. I haven't tested the S yet, but just pushing on it in the shop the flex feels about the same as last years ATR. I will say the new graphics on the bill are pretty sweet and worth a couple of bucks to upgrade from the ATR.
Old     (augie_09)      Join Date: Mar 2011       02-23-2015, 9:45 AM Reply   
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It has a lot more to do with a standardization of marketing terminology than anything. The shapes are exactly the same. I haven't tested the S yet, but just pushing on it in the shop the flex feels about the same as last years ATR. I will say the new graphics on the bill are pretty sweet and worth a couple of bucks to upgrade from the ATR.
thanks, trying to figure out the marketing terminology. 'S' means the delayed snap/stored energy. Sounds like the Bill always had this, but it wan't called out in the specs. I was hoping it was S for sintered and the non 'S' bill was a new lighter model with no grind base. Not the case it sounds.
Old     (skiboarder)      Join Date: Oct 2006       02-23-2015, 11:46 AM Reply   
August. It is simpler than that. There is only 1 Bill this year. The william is the exact shape, but it has a super stiff/wake layup. Both have a sintered base.
Old     (augie_09)      Join Date: Mar 2011       02-23-2015, 12:46 PM Reply   
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August. It is simpler than that. There is only 1 Bill this year. The william is the exact shape, but it has a super stiff/wake layup. Both have a sintered base.
gotcha, thanks.

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