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Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-28-2020, 6:45 AM Reply   
He is such a pervert, this is who Trump put in charge of all his marbles to win the election.
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Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-28-2020, 6:48 AM Reply   
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This Giuliani? The one that got caught giving an interview to a Borat impersonator posing as his daughter? Giuliani then goes from the interview room to the bedroom with the young girl and lays down on the bed and puts his hand in his pants, that Giuliani? Yah, that's a credible source. Giuliani got totally hoodwinked by Borat, who has to wear a costume because he is so recognizable in the USandA. There is no way the Russians could plant Giuliani with false information? And this is Trumps October surprise, as he continues his get your Corona Virus Tour?
Awe... Bless your soul. You believe a comedy movie that is edited to have a certain outcome. Sounds typical. You mean the emails that Biden wrote and his business partner is spilling the beans on? Yes. Those emails. You know the dirty dealings that the democrats protecting Biden about where he said he did not threaten the Ukraine with withholding a billion dollars in aid unless they fired this so call "RANDOM" guy in their government who happened to be investigating Biden's sons company for illegal activity. You know the same company who just so happens to need a random American on their board who has no experience in their products and is not even the least bit familiar with the language. You know the same guys that the democrats in our government felt they needed to have "whisleblowers" make up a false story and turn government on its ear using a rare impeachment inquiry that was historically one sided to protect this criminal. Yes. that Biden. Can you tell me what Rudy has to do with Biden and his activities?
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-28-2020, 6:53 AM Reply   
Here is the link to the pic, Giuliani got totally taken by Borat, Giuliani is even in the movie Borat 2
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...and-pants.html
It's a terrible movie, but Borat does get Giuliani to put his hand in his pants lying down in front of a young girl, I'm afraid of what the KGB could get Giuliani to do?
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-28-2020, 6:53 AM Reply   
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Remind us again what public agency Joe was working for in 2017 when the emails in that article were sent.
Can you remind us of what political officer Joe is running for and what he testified to not having any involvement or knowledge of his sons business dealings with China or the Ukraine thus he could not have been protecting his sons illegal dealings in Ukraine by having the prosecutor fired that was investigating his sons company? You know the one where he threatened the $1 billion in aid that was being supplied by congress to the Ukraine but Joe used that to protect his sons ill gotten paycheck. You know, the whole impeachment thing that you guys swear was only Trump trying to get illegal goods on Biden when it turns out that Biden was actually dirty after all.

You think this all just happened in 2017 huh?
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-28-2020, 6:54 AM Reply   
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Here is the link to the pic, Giuliani got totally taken by Borat, Giuliani is even in the movie Borat 2
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...and-pants.html
It's a terrible movie, but Borat does get Giuliani to put his hand in his pants lying down in front of a young girl, I'm afraid of what the KGB could get Giuliani to do?
Good news for all involved. Biden wrote the emails and the FBI even said the Russians had nothing to do with it. We are saved once again from the Russians.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-28-2020, 6:59 AM Reply   
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Suburbia? I have to drive past two labs on my 15 minute commute to work, and if I make it 2 minutes longer I could pass 3. A different one that's a 7 minute drive away opens at 6:00 a.m. so I can go before work.

Probably obama's fault.
SO. How many times have you been tested since it is easy for you? I would expect at least 20 test by now.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-28-2020, 6:59 AM Reply   
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The other news outlets have it.
Link?
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-28-2020, 7:03 AM Reply   
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Awe... Bless your soul. You believe a comedy movie that is edited to have a certain outcome.
It's a mockumentary, he makes fun of stupid people doing stupid stuff.
Here is a pic of Borat and the young girl running away from the hotel that Giuliani is in, still with his hands in his pants.
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Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-28-2020, 7:04 AM Reply   
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SO. How many times have you been tested since it is easy for you? I would expect at least 20 test by now.
Me personally, zero. I probably should though. But I'm not the one claiming I can't. I CAN, I've just been lazy.

My spouse, 5x. (she is essential; employer requires when a confirmed positive has been in her building).

My daughter, weekly (required by employer for job with public exposure).

My son, frequently (college requires regular testing for in person access to campus).
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-28-2020, 7:07 AM Reply   
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Link?
Such a lazy response. You really think only one news outlet got this? What about now? that's right. there are no links. Why? Because we are all talking about it and your news sources are still refusing to report about it.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-28-2020, 7:09 AM Reply   
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It's a mockumentary, he makes fun of stupid people doing stupid stuff.
Here is a pic of Borat and the young girl running away from the hotel that Giuliani is in, still with his hands in his pants.
Young girl? She was born in 1996. That makes her around 24 years old.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-28-2020, 7:10 AM Reply   
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Such a lazy response. You really think only one news outlet got this? What about now? that's right. there are no links. Why? Because we are all talking about it and your news sources are still refusing to report about it.
So which other news outlets have the hard drive? From what I've read, only NYPost. Are you saying Fox has an image of the actual hard drive, or just the drips that the NYPost is doling out?

Shoot, put it the HD on wikileaks like they did with the DNC emails.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-28-2020, 7:11 AM Reply   
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Young girl? She was born in 1996. That makes her around 24 years old.
that's a grandma in flyover country!
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-28-2020, 7:11 AM Reply   
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Me personally, zero. I probably should though. But I'm not the one claiming I can't. I CAN, I've just been lazy.

My spouse, 5x. (she is essential; employer requires when a confirmed positive has been in her building).

My daughter, weekly (required by employer for job with public exposure).

My son, frequently (college requires regular testing for in person access to campus).
Yep. Now think about the people who are either not prone to going or are just stugling to make it to work nevermind having the additional stress of going down and proving a negative.

While you are at it, you need to prove you don't lead an illegal lifestyle while you are at it to participate in the economy.
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-28-2020, 7:14 AM Reply   
Here is the interview room that Giuliani had the fake interview in
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Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-28-2020, 7:15 AM Reply   
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Young girl? She was born in 1996. That makes her around 24 years old.
Young girl for you anyway
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-28-2020, 7:15 AM Reply   
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that's a grandma in flyover country!
Oddly enough the first 35 year old grandma I have ever met was in California. Know more than one.

Just looking at this the other day. took a trip to the north coast. Seeing a few biden signs and hippy life statements, yet not a gas station for 10's of miles in any direction. Only small food stores. Nothing for infastructure. They had lots for sale but it will take over 2 years to build unless someone can convince people from the bay area to come out. I just laughed at it because it was way worse than anything I have ever seen in fly over country.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-28-2020, 7:17 AM Reply   
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Young girl for you anyway
Well, I am not in the video now am I
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-28-2020, 7:18 AM Reply   
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Young girl for you anyway
Besides, you looking at someones age makes you a racist in your parties eyes so be careful.
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-28-2020, 7:20 AM Reply   
This is the young girl that was interviewing Giuliani after she was interviewing him they went to the bedroom and Giuliani laid down on the bed and put his hand in his pants in front of the young girl
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Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-28-2020, 7:20 AM Reply   
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Yep. Now think about the people who are either not prone to going or are just stugling to make it to work nevermind having the additional stress of going down and proving a negative.

While you are at it, you need to prove you don't lead an illegal lifestyle while you are at it to participate in the economy.
So your thesis is that the entire scientific discipline of public health is stupid? Delta, there are plenty of ways that testing could be deployed.

Don't know about you, but during flu shot season, they come to my place of employment. No reason that a "covid test fair" can't occur at major employers on the regular. Just like the bloodmobile. Many colleges that have on-campus learning back east are testing students weekly.

There are lots of ways to creatively test and penetrate the community as a whole to get a good snapshot.

Without that snapshot you cannot know what's happening. Sure, waiting for people to drop dead also works, but that certainly doesn't encourage the average person to go back to a restaurant or a movie. You want to reopen the economy, you are also going to need to convince folks that it's safe. A low positivity rate is what will get the economy open again, and not based on BS "feelings" or anecdotes. Rather, science.

Anti-maskers alone cannot get the economy back open. If 60-70% of people stay home, it doesn't work. Like it or not you've got to use hard science to prove safety. That's what the discipline of public health is all about.
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-28-2020, 7:21 AM Reply   
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Besides, you looking at someones age makes you a racist in your parties eyes so be careful.
Because the young girl is not black?
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-28-2020, 7:23 AM Reply   
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Well, I am not in the video now am I
Get your hands out of your pants.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-28-2020, 7:35 AM Reply   
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So your thesis is that the entire scientific discipline of public health is stupid? Delta, there are plenty of ways that testing could be deployed.

Don't know about you, but during flu shot season, they come to my place of employment. No reason that a "covid test fair" can't occur at major employers on the regular. Just like the bloodmobile. Many colleges that have on-campus learning back east are testing students weekly.

There are lots of ways to creatively test and penetrate the community as a whole to get a good snapshot.

Without that snapshot you cannot know what's happening. Sure, waiting for people to drop dead also works, but that certainly doesn't encourage the average person to go back to a restaurant or a movie. You want to reopen the economy, you are also going to need to convince folks that it's safe. A low positivity rate is what will get the economy open again, and not based on BS "feelings" or anecdotes. Rather, science.

Anti-maskers alone cannot get the economy back open. If 60-70% of people stay home, it doesn't work. Like it or not you've got to use hard science to prove safety. That's what the discipline of public health is all about.
I don't completely disagree. They go as far as bring flu shot clinics to out building at work and I bet still only 30% of the people or less get their shot in out building. I miss it sometimes too when they have it and I like to get a flu shot and believe I need a flu shot. I don't believe I need a covid test so I am going to be even less inclined to get it and certainly not going to schedule time to go do it somewhere else. I know it will be even less for people who are struggling to go out of their busy day.

As far as using hard science to prove safety. I disagree. I think that there is enough evidence to prove that it is a certain population is going to die from it. If that population is scared then they need to to wear a N95 mask and wash their hands. There is nothing in the constitution about limiting your freedoms because you feel unsafe. Your life is not guaranteed nor is it on the backs of others to guarantee it. not trying to be cold, those are just the facts.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-28-2020, 7:37 AM Reply   
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Because the young girl is not black?
Don't ask me. It is your party. everything is racists to you guys.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-28-2020, 7:54 AM Reply   
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As far as using hard science to prove safety. I disagree. I think that there is enough evidence to prove that it is a certain population is going to die from it. If that population is scared then they need to to wear a N95 mask and wash their hands. There is nothing in the constitution about limiting your freedoms because you feel unsafe. Your life is not guaranteed nor is it on the backs of others to guarantee it. not trying to be cold, those are just the facts.
That's fine if you disagree. But if your business is about putting butts in seats, and it doesn't matter if those butts are MAGA butts or ANTIFA butts, rather just butts, you need everyone to return. If a large segment feels that the risk of going to dinner isn't worth potentially getting grandma sick next week, they won't go.

Coachella, Burning Man, a Niners game, a Rolling Stones stadium show, Disneyland, a morning train to the office on BART, what-have-you. Each of those things depends on loads of people from all walks of life getting into close proximity. The "my freedom I don't care if it kills me" segment of the population just isn't big enough to sustain the economy. You HAVE TO drag the rest along.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-28-2020, 8:00 AM Reply   
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That's fine if you disagree. But if your business is about putting butts in seats, and it doesn't matter if those butts are MAGA butts or ANTIFA butts, rather just butts, you need everyone to return. If a large segment feels that the risk of going to dinner isn't worth potentially getting grandma sick next week, they won't go.

Coachella, Burning Man, a Niners game, a Rolling Stones stadium show, Disneyland, a morning train to the office on BART, what-have-you. Each of those things depends on loads of people from all walks of life getting into close proximity. The "my freedom I don't care if it kills me" segment of the population just isn't big enough to sustain the economy. You HAVE TO drag the rest along.
There is truth to that. I bet is they opened up those venues, they would sell out except BART. People working in the city seem to thing they can control their existence which is kind of ironic considering what it takes them to get there.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-28-2020, 8:04 AM Reply   
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Get your hands out of your pants.
Umm... Thatís YOUR GUY that got caught doing that in front of his coworkers.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-28-2020, 8:10 AM Reply   
Dang, looks like Jack Dorsey and the PM of NZ are neck and neck in an ugly contest. Dorsey has a slight edge because of his added homeless flair. The jury is still out. Dorsey can always take a shower and fall behind in the contest too. Time will tell.....
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-28-2020, 8:36 AM Reply   
TRUMP TAKES CREDIT FOR ENDING COVID!!
Trump figured out how to fight and beat Covid, Just say you beat it. Not sure who is going to believe this, do you?
https://www.theroot.com/white-house-...c-a-1845507906
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/white...b66a9e1892a9b3
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-28-2020, 8:42 AM Reply   
Crazy Giuliani gets grilled by Kennedy on FOX
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...070119082.html
This is Trumps personal attorney, just try to find one of Joe's counsel with their hands in their pants in front of a young girl.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-28-2020, 8:52 AM Reply   
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Wealthy have assets so there is that. That is not income. Of the people who pay income taxes, the Top 10% pay almost all the taxes. That is an absolute fact
The top 10% pay less than half of the tax take nincompoop, why do you peddle such lies?
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-28-2020, 9:41 AM Reply   
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The top 10% pay less than half of the tax take nincompoop, why do you peddle such lies?
Wait til they release the 3rd qtr GDP numbers and they will be saying "Greatest growth in history"!! While completely forgetting the 2nd qtr 32% drop was the largest loss in history.
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-28-2020, 11:46 AM Reply   
GAME CHANGER, these dogs can smell the Corona Virus and are more accurate than any test.
https://time.com/5898049/covid-19-sniffing-dogs/
Too bad Trump doesn't believe in testing, he could have won the election with these dogs, even with his # hound dog, Rudy.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-28-2020, 1:19 PM Reply   
Awesome idea, lets log this ancient forest which the tax payer funds but private companies benefit. More socialism for the corporations and capitalism for the people.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/clima...forest-alaska/
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       10-28-2020, 1:39 PM Reply   
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Wait til they release the 3rd qtr GDP numbers and they will be saying "Greatest growth in history"!! While completely forgetting the 2nd qtr 32% drop was the largest loss in history.
Cuz I am
Sure that had nothing to do with all the tyrants clothing down their areas completely. GTFOH with your nonsense.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-28-2020, 2:02 PM Reply   
Lol, this gave me a great laugh. Because America, because Freedom. Truly amazing.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertain...box=1603912215
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       10-28-2020, 4:01 PM Reply   
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Lol, this gave me a great laugh. Because America, because Freedom. Truly amazing.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertain...box=1603912215
This gave me a bigger one


https://www.instagram.com/p/CG3hX70HZzL/


Whats even more hysterical is a guy thinking the policies of a country that contributes nothing to the world economy while wing a smidge bigger than our largest state should be a model we follow
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-28-2020, 4:14 PM Reply   
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Whats even more hysterical is a guy thinking the policies of a country that contributes nothing to the world economy while wing a smidge bigger than our largest state should be a model we follow
Very stoked to give you a chuckle, truth be told I laugh at you a lot too.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       10-28-2020, 6:36 PM Reply   
So you saw the video of the knife wielding almost-assassin in Philadelphia the other day. He chased officers around a vehicle before being justifiably shot. The usual riots then ensued over a multiple convicted felon, with the ignorant masses claiming Officers should have used non-lethal methods when being confronted by lethal force - which is contrary to all training and all existing state law in all 50 states.

Here's the "hero" of the "communerty:"

27...with nine children. I am sure he supported all of them adequately;
in 2013 pled guilty to assault and resisting arrest after hitting a police officer;
Four years later he pled guilty to robbery, assault, and possessing an instrument of crime after kicking down the door of a woman and putting a gun to her head;
another dozen arrests in intervening years;
another musical "artist" who rapped about shooting police officers and other people.
This was the third time in a single day that PPD had responded to calls about him.

Following extensive looting, thirty injured cops and ninety or so arrests, eleven other people were shot, mostly after they looted stores and someone else robbed them - which we find darkly ironic.

So looting, shooting, burning and destruction might be an appropriate legacy for someone who contributed nothing to society and almost as much to Philadelphia.


Joe may have lost Pennsylvania with this one. Nothing like supporting another career criminal that nobody could control , so police needed to. This is supposed to be the guy to protect us and lead us.

What would NZ do?

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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-28-2020, 6:37 PM Reply   
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What would NZ do?
NZ's society isn't so broken and partisan that every issue is political and causes death and rioting. We don't have gun culture here so police have much more latitude and safety in their daily duties, don't open carry and are widely respected.

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Old     (bcd)      Join Date: Jun 2012       10-29-2020, 1:17 AM Reply   
Here are some more stats for you today. I've wondered for a while what the difference in total deaths for the year 2020 will compare to 2019, meaning are the 200K+ Covid deaths on top of the normal deaths, or are they simply replacing other deaths (they were actually deaths caused by other causes, the people were sick/unwell and going to die anyway, etc, you know all the arguments).

Here's the data source (CDC): https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Cou...uses/muzy-jte6

First off, they list the data by week. Since we're not done with the year, I looked at 2019 through Oct 12 and 2020 through Oct 10. They list all deaths, deaths by natural cause, death by diabetes, death by influenza, death by Covid, etc. I tried summing up all the individual columns, and the number is way higher than the total deaths, so I'm assuming that one death could be listed under multiple columns. They do have 2 columns for covid - death by covid and death by covid, mulitple causes of death. When I summed, i only counted the death by covid, plus i checked 2019 where that was 0, and it still didn't add up. Also, they didn't list out suicide separately, which I was disappointed in because I wanted to compare that also.

Here's what I found:
2020 total deaths through Oct 10: 2.492 million 2019 total deaths through Oct 12: 2.234 million

First thought is that lines up well with the ~200K Covid death toll stat. However, total number of deaths change every year. Usually it's increasing every year, but not always (2009 was less than 2008). Population is increasing, the average age in the country is increasing (I think), and people are living longer. So I took an average from 2019 to 2017, and the average increase of number of deaths is 48,000. Since this is yearly deaths, and I only have current data through 41 weeks of this year, I took my data and extrapolated it out to 52 weeks (full year) by multiplying the death number by 52 and dividing by 41.

Extrapolated 2020 total deaths: 3.16 million Extrapolated 2019 total deaths: 2.83 million

If you add the 48,000 deaths to 2019 for the annual increase, you get 2.88 million, which is still 280,000 below 2020. That again makes the published Covid death number look accurate.

I looked at it one more way - there is a column for natural deaths, which is the highest number of deaths in all the columns, other than total deaths.

2020 Natural cause of death total through Oct 10: 2.298 million
2019 Natural cause of death total through Oct 12: 2.085 million

That's an increase of 213,000, which would negate almost all of the 200K+ covid death number.

I guess I found arguments for both sides, and it wasn't as conclusive as I was hoping.
Old     (bcd)      Join Date: Jun 2012       10-29-2020, 1:54 AM Reply   
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So you saw the video of the knife wielding almost-assassin in Philadelphia the other day. He chased officers around a vehicle before being justifiably shot. The usual riots then ensued over a multiple convicted felon, with the ignorant masses claiming Officers should have used non-lethal methods when being confronted by lethal force - which is contrary to all training and all existing state law in all 50 states.

Here's the "hero" of the "communerty:"

27...with nine children. I am sure he supported all of them adequately;
in 2013 pled guilty to assault and resisting arrest after hitting a police officer;
Four years later he pled guilty to robbery, assault, and possessing an instrument of crime after kicking down the door of a woman and putting a gun to her head;
another dozen arrests in intervening years;
another musical "artist" who rapped about shooting police officers and other people.
This was the third time in a single day that PPD had responded to calls about him.

Following extensive looting, thirty injured cops and ninety or so arrests, eleven other people were shot, mostly after they looted stores and someone else robbed them - which we find darkly ironic.

So looting, shooting, burning and destruction might be an appropriate legacy for someone who contributed nothing to society and almost as much to Philadelphia.


Joe may have lost Pennsylvania with this one. Nothing like supporting another career criminal that nobody could control , so police needed to. This is supposed to be the guy to protect us and lead us.

What would NZ do?

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They should have sent in a social worker to deescalate the situation...

Don't forget Joe wants to kill fracking. Neither of these are helping him win Pennsylvania.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       10-29-2020, 2:34 AM Reply   
So what time do we think Trump is going to falsely claim victory on the 3rd? 7 eastern? 8?
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-29-2020, 3:07 AM Reply   
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You know, the whole impeachment thing that you guys swear was only Trump trying to get illegal goods on Biden when it turns out that Biden was actually dirty after all.
And we'd all know this if that dang Tucker guy didn't lose the incriminating evidence. LOL

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You think this all just happened in 2017 huh?
The Faux News thought it did. Because that's all they had.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       10-29-2020, 3:14 AM Reply   
Results are in from my HIGHLY SCIENTIFIC research consisting of a 3 miles stroll around my moms neighborhood here in conservative-leaning Almanance County, North Carolina:

Trump signs: 3
Biden signs: 23
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-29-2020, 3:27 AM Reply   
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So what time do we think Trump is going to falsely claim victory on the 3rd? 7 eastern? 8?
I flip back and forth between the big three political propaganda networks while cooking dinner. I was a little surprised last night to hear Hannity imploring folks to get out and vote and saying that "this is way closer than we think." Usually he has more confidence than MarkJ in Trump's chances.

My strong hope is that the results are decisive enough that we have a clear victor one way or the other. Slogging it out in state by state/county by county lawsuits will be really bad for overall faith in he result.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       10-29-2020, 3:31 AM Reply   
It’s pretty clear that PA will not have clear results in on election night (unless things break decidedly for Biden day-of which is possible but not super likely). If Florida or Arizona can call it for Biden (or my vote swings things magically his way in TX) that would go a long way towards deflating Trump’s calls to the conspiracy theorists.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-29-2020, 3:39 AM Reply   
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So what time do we think Trump is going to falsely claim victory on the 3rd? 7 eastern? 8?
Never. He will claim it legitimately though and youíll have to start the last four years of your TDS.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       10-29-2020, 3:42 AM Reply   
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Never. He will claim it legitimately though and youíll have to start the last four years of your TDS.
Bold claim big guy! So youíre saying Trump will clear an electoral college victory without needing PA?
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-29-2020, 3:43 AM Reply   
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Results are in from my HIGHLY SCIENTIFIC research consisting of a 3 miles stroll around my moms neighborhood here in conservative-leaning Almanance County, North Carolina:

Trump signs: 3
Biden signs: 23
Thatís because democrats steal Trump signs. How many boats were in the Biden boat parade? Rubber duckies donít count.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       10-29-2020, 3:47 AM Reply   
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Thatís because democrats steal Trump signs. How many boats were in the Biden boat parade? Rubber duckies donít count.
Lulz! When my mom was living in Texas she had 6 (SIX!) Obama signs magically go missing.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-29-2020, 3:47 AM Reply   
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Bold claim big guy! So youíre saying Trump will clear an electoral college victory without needing PA?
Actually, Iím just having fun, talking smack like you.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-29-2020, 3:48 AM Reply   
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Lulz! When my mom was living in Texas she had 6 (SIX!) Obama signs magically go missing.
Iím betting she takes Ambien and came to her senses while sleep walking and removed them herself.
Old     (skiboarder)      Join Date: Oct 2006       10-29-2020, 4:17 AM Reply   
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Thatís because democrats steal Trump signs. How many boats were in the Biden boat parade? Rubber duckies donít count.
How many Trump boats at the bottom of Lake Travis?
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-29-2020, 5:41 AM Reply   
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And we'd all know this if that dang Tucker guy didn't lose the incriminating evidence. LOL
This Tucker Carlson dog-ate-my-homework thing is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. In this day and age, why wouldn't the Fox employee in NYC throw the documents on a scanner first, before sending THE ONLY COPY to Tucker in LA? Seems like a whole buncha base level incompetence going on there?
Old     (onlyinboards)      Join Date: Oct 2014       10-29-2020, 7:11 AM Reply   
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This Tucker Carlson dog-ate-my-homework thing is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. In this day and age, why wouldn't the Fox employee in NYC throw the documents on a scanner first, before sending THE ONLY COPY to Tucker in LA? Seems like a whole buncha base level incompetence going on there?
My God, does ANYONE believe that crap? How can this guy have even a modicum of credibility with anyone?

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Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-29-2020, 7:21 AM Reply   
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How many Trump boats at the bottom of Lake Travis?
Same as the number of brain cells in your libtard head.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-29-2020, 7:23 AM Reply   
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This Tucker Carlson dog-ate-my-homework thing is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. In this day and age, why wouldn't the Fox employee in NYC throw the documents on a scanner first, before sending THE ONLY COPY to Tucker in LA? Seems like a whole buncha base level incompetence going on there?
I didnít watch last night or whenever he said it. Iím sure thereíll be a better explanation of what happened tonight.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-29-2020, 7:28 AM Reply   
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They should have sent in a social worker to deescalate the situation...

Don't forget Joe wants to kill fracking. Neither of these are helping him win Pennsylvania.
Oh come on, dont you know that we need to have hugs, just hug it out. dont worry, he only wants to kill you with a knife. the guy only has a wrap sheet a mile long, not 2 miles.

Its now happening, you cannot arrest or detain, or enforce anything against the black community. they are now above the law. and its sad for those great Black folks that are victims of this. The BLM movement is not peaceful. and the looting is out of control

Police are allowing the riots, they cannot arrest black criminals. although they focused on arresting white folks as it was a safer move.

I am not racist, have not ill will to anyone, but its obvious, you cannot arrest or act against an african american person. you MUST let them do whatever they need to do. Its sad, but true

Just understand, someday, down the road, people will revert back to the old saying. "they cant control themselves, or their actions, because of the color of their skin" Keep allowing crime, based on color, and people will start to segregate them and fear them, just like the old days. That would be terrible for everyone.

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Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-29-2020, 7:28 AM Reply   
7.6 million people tuned in to watch the interview of Bobulinski. Meanwhile, the libtard MSM is engaging in a massively corrupt coverup of the case in an effort to help Hiden get elected. Hiden should be in jail for this. Not running for prez.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-29-2020, 7:30 AM Reply   
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Oh come on, dont you know that we need to have hugs, just hug it out. dont worry, he only wants to kill you with a knife. the guy only has a wrap sheet a mile long, not 2 miles.

Its now happening, you cannot arrest or detain, or enforce anything against the black community. they are now above the law. and its sad for those great Black folks that are victims of this. The BLM movement is not peaceful. and the looting is out of control

Police are allowing the riots, they cannot arrest black criminals. although they focused on arresting white folks as it was a safer move.

I am not racist, have not ill will to anyone, but its obvious, you cannot arrest or act against an african american person. you MUST let them do whatever they need to do. Its sad, but true
Yep. Weíve all seen how anyone closer than 20í can close in on anyone and be just as deadly as someone with a gun.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-29-2020, 7:41 AM Reply   
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Oh come on, dont you know that we need to have hugs, just hug it out. dont worry, he only wants to kill you with a knife. the guy only has a wrap sheet a mile long, not 2 miles.

Its now happening, you cannot arrest or detain, or enforce anything against the black community. they are now above the law. and its sad for those great Black folks that are victims of this. The BLM movement is not peaceful. and the looting is out of control

Police are allowing the riots, they cannot arrest black criminals. although they focused on arresting white folks as it was a safer move.

I am not racist, have not ill will to anyone, but its obvious, you cannot arrest or act against an african american person. you MUST let them do whatever they need to do. Its sad, but true

Just understand, someday, down the road, people will revert back to the old saying. "they cant control themselves, or their actions, because of the color of their skin" Keep allowing crime, based on color, and people will start to segregate them and fear them, just like the old days. That would be terrible for everyone.
"Im the least racist person in the room". DJT Oct. 2020.

You know how you can tell who the racists are? Its the folks claiming to not be racist. People who are not racist never seem to feel the need to tell you.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-29-2020, 7:52 AM Reply   
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"Im the least racist person in the room". DJT Oct. 2020.

You know how you can tell who the racists are? Its the folks claiming to not be racist. People who are not racist never seem to feel the need to tell you.
A few years ago, i would agree, but if you are white, you are a racist, period. as its Systemic, and all people who are white are racists, all children born today, white are racists. anyone who is white cannot change that, as its systemic, spread within and everywhere, and just IS, your actions do not matter, you are by default. And anyone who is well to do, middle ages and a white male. is now the white devil. Very sad, but that is what the left and media is pushing.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-29-2020, 8:02 AM Reply   
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A few years ago, i would agree, but if you are white, you are a racist, period. as its Systemic, and all people who are white are racists, all children born today, white are racists. anyone who is white cannot change that, as its systemic, spread within and everywhere, and just IS, your actions do not matter, you are by default. And anyone who is well to do, middle ages and a white male. is now the white devil. Very sad, but that is what the left and media is pushing.
How odd. Im white, middle age, not "well off" but comfortable and ive never felt anything like you describe. Not now, not ever. Your actions and statements 100% matter, if not, what does?
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-29-2020, 8:02 AM Reply   
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Its now happening, you cannot arrest or detain, or enforce anything against the black community. they are now above the law.
The nerve, right? It's like everybody wants to be treated like a Trump or a Kennedy! No respect for privilege these days.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-29-2020, 8:20 AM Reply   
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How odd. Im white, middle age, not "well off" but comfortable and ive never felt anything like you describe. Not now, not ever. Your actions and statements 100% matter, if not, what does?
It does not matter how you feel or how you act, as it systemic. By default you are now a racist. even if you dont know it, you are!
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-29-2020, 8:23 AM Reply   
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The nerve, right? It's like everybody wants to be treated like a Trump or a Kennedy! No respect for privilege these days.
Worse than "the nerve" Its not about privilege as you are a racist, didn't you know, your income or poverty does not matter, you are racist because you are white and its systemic. I was told that today, pumping gas, "white devil" I asked pardon me? She said I am the white devil and another wealthy white racist holding back the black man. I guess I should have drove a different car today.

We have friends coming over tonight, one Cuban, on Mexican both Americans, Maybe I should call and tell them I am the White devil just to be safe?
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-29-2020, 8:29 AM Reply   
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Worse than "the nerve" Its not about privilege as you are a racist, didn't you know, your income or poverty does not matter, you are racist because you are white and its systemic. I was told that today, pumping gas, "white devil" I asked pardon me? She said I am the white devil and another wealthy white racist holding back the black man. I guess I should have drove a different car today.

We have friends coming over tonight, one Cuban, on Mexican both Americans, Maybe I should call and tell them I am the White devil just to be safe?
It's like you are being lumped in with all of the other white people (rapists and murderers, and, I'm sure, some good people) into a group or something? people these days.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-29-2020, 9:09 AM Reply   
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It's like you are being lumped in with all of the other white people (rapists and murderers, and, I'm sure, some good people) into a group or something? people these days.
yep, sad, as I thought we were getting closer to eliminating this, but until the media explained it to me, i just didn't know i was a racist.

We need a manual or something to explain it better. If we are all racists now, what should we do? Should we change how we act and start hating black people? Please help, so confused
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-29-2020, 9:22 AM Reply   
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The top 10% pay less than half of the tax take nincompoop, why do you peddle such lies?
Possibly true. here is from 2016. Top 1 percent paid more than the bottom 90% in


https://taxfoundation.org/summary-la...a-2018-update/

In 2016, 140.9 million taxpayers reported earning $10.2 trillion in adjusted gross income and paid $1.4 trillion in individual income taxes.
The share of reported income earned by the top 1 percent of taxpayers fell slightly to 19.7 percent in 2016. Their share of federal individual income taxes fell slightly, to 37.3 percent.
In 2016, the top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97 percent of all individual income taxes, while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining 3 percent.
The top 1 percent paid a greater share of individual income taxes (37.3 percent) than the bottom 90 percent combined (30.5 percent).
The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid a 26.9 percent individual income tax rate, which is more than seven times higher than taxpayers in the bottom 50 percent (3.7 percent).


Do the rich pay most of the taxes?
The rich generally pay more of their incomes in taxes than the rest of us. The top fifth of households got 54% of all income and paid 69% of federal taxes; the top 1% got 16% of the income and paid 25% of all federal taxes, according to the CBO.Oct 15, 2019

So how much to rich people need to pay?
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-29-2020, 9:27 AM Reply   
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How many Trump boats at the bottom of Lake Travis?
Pretty sure Trump did not buy any boats for lake travis
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-29-2020, 9:30 AM Reply   
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Oh come on, dont you know that we need to have hugs, just hug it out. dont worry, he only wants to kill you with a knife. the guy only has a wrap sheet a mile long, not 2 miles.

Its now happening, you cannot arrest or detain, or enforce anything against the black community. they are now above the law. and its sad for those great Black folks that are victims of this. The BLM movement is not peaceful. and the looting is out of control

Police are allowing the riots, they cannot arrest black criminals. although they focused on arresting white folks as it was a safer move.

I am not racist, have not ill will to anyone, but its obvious, you cannot arrest or act against an african american person. you MUST let them do whatever they need to do. Its sad, but true

Just understand, someday, down the road, people will revert back to the old saying. "they cant control themselves, or their actions, because of the color of their skin" Keep allowing crime, based on color, and people will start to segregate them and fear them, just like the old days. That would be terrible for everyone.
Well. that is the goal. During the 2000's people were getting too friendly and mixing culture. That simply meant a loss of income to race profiters. Something needed to change so here we are.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-29-2020, 9:32 AM Reply   
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"Im the least racist person in the room". DJT Oct. 2020.

You know how you can tell who the racists are? Its the folks claiming to not be racist. People who are not racist never seem to feel the need to tell you.
Is that why all you democrats are out in the streets with signs telling us they are not racists and with black people? Are they burning, looting and killing cops to tell us they are not racists too? I am confused by your anti-racist tactics.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-29-2020, 9:33 AM Reply   
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How odd. Im white, middle age, not "well off" but comfortable and ive never felt anything like you describe. Not now, not ever. Your actions and statements 100% matter, if not, what does?
Go to oakland and walk around for a few minutes. Someone will find you.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-29-2020, 9:35 AM Reply   
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The nerve, right? It's like everybody wants to be treated like a Trump or a Kennedy! No respect for privilege these days.
Funny. Don't see a Trump or a Kennedy out gang banging, dealing drugs, shooting, raping and burning.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-29-2020, 9:38 AM Reply   
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I guess I found arguments for both sides, and it wasn't as conclusive as I was hoping.
That's pretty good analysis. A couple of other things to consider, social distancing, lockdowns, masks also in theory reduce all communicable diseases so you should see a pretty good drop in flu deaths for the period. That has two implications a, all things considered the "savings" in flu deaths are being offset buy covid deaths. If flu death is way down then you could use that metric apply it to covid deaths to calculate what the covid death could be without any masks, lockdowns social distancing.

The other point is with the lockdown and working from home you would expect to see a big reduction in motor vehicle deaths, again if the stats show a reduction then this would be offset against covid deaths.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-29-2020, 9:40 AM Reply   
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So how much to rich people need to pay?
Depends how much the country decides to spend. At the moment the Trump administration is running a $3T deficit, so I would say they need to pay a lot more.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-29-2020, 9:42 AM Reply   
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It's like you are being lumped in with all of the other white people (rapists and murderers, and, I'm sure, some good people) into a group or something? people these days.
Keep playing coy. You are the problem.

If people want to keep lumping people in by skin color (and they have since I have moved to california) we are only going to go backwards. It is to a point, I can start to see why black people were historically treated the way they were. I try not too, but the evidence is starting to get overwhelming. Up is down and down is up. Black person sho0ts at a cop and they get gunned down and now we have say her name specials on sports and that crap on uniforms. Black guy tries to stab a cop and gets shot and you democrats are out burning and looting again. it is so bad that democrat presidential candidates are appalogizing for it? really? Society is pretty much about to collapse.

Question is. Is it the white liberal like yourself that is trying to do this on purpose or are you just too scared that you are afraid the mob is coming for you if you don't act this way? Not sure if you are the cause or effect?
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-29-2020, 9:44 AM Reply   
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Depends how much the country decides to spend. At the moment the Trump administration is running a $3T deficit, so I would say they need to pay a lot more.
That is not the question. Of the taxes paid, they are paying more than the most so now you are trying to move the goal post.

How about we stop government aid to the UN and other countries and bring out military home. Let the rest of the world fend for themselves. That will save a ton of money.
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