Biden for Prez

Originally Posted by bcd

The argument on why the Jan 6 riot was way worse than black lives matter riots are that it was a direct attack on democracy. They were going to keep the election from happening. Does anyone really think that would happen? Worst case is it would be delayed. They weren't going to take the capitol and then Trump would magically be president.
Our government is made up of the executive, legislative, and judicial branches. This was a direct attack on the executive branch. Then the BLM riots were direct attacks on the judicial branch. They claimed they wanted justice and rioted immediately after the incidents occurred and didn't allow the judicial process to occur. The officers were all immediately guilty. They didn't even wait for an investigation - the riots just started. Then they continued. For instance a certain member of the US Congress got up before the final jury deliberation on the Derek Chauvin trial and said if they don't get a guilty verdict, they need to get more confrontational:

A few days before the jury convicted Derek Chauvin, U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters told protesters in Minnesota that if he wasn’t convicted, they should “get more confrontational.” The trial judge, Peter Cahill, suggested Waters’ comments could be grounds for an appeal and called out elected officials for speaking out in a way that is disrespectful to the judicial branch.

I fail to see the difference, other than what branch of our government the rioters were attacking - executive or judicial. They were all attacks on our government and laws. The difference is the democratic party condoned the BLM riots and no one condoned the Jan 6 one.

I'm glad that Jan. 6 and Derrek Chauvin finally made it into the same post.

What made Derrek Chauvin guilty of murder? Was it that he stopped a black man for trying to pass off a fake $20. No, That is breaking the law and Derrek's job is to enforce laws. Was it for detaining him? No. Was it for fighting to the ground when he resisted arrest? No. Was it for using an illegal hold mid-fight? No, low blows happen in the middle of fights. Was it for not easing up when he said, "I can't breathe?" I'm still going to say no. I have younger brothers. That was their go-to. Derrek Chauvin was guilty of murder when after George passed out, he sat on his neck for all those minutes and he had no regard. He stayed the course while the life left him and then no real effort was made to render aid until it was far too late.

What makes Trump guilty/culpable for Jan. 6? Was it the fraudulent basis he and others gathered a crowd? No, He and the others are politicians. Telling half-truths and out-right lies is par for the course. Was it the gas he continued pour on a crowd that was already in a fever-pitch. No, being an egoist he was likely lost in the glow. Was it when mob broke through the barricades while he was still on stage? No, I'll even give him the benefit of the doubt, he may have had no idea and was still planning on "peacefully marching" down to the capitol with his followers. Trump became guilty/culpable for Jan 6 when he was informed that he could not safely march down to the capital because it was under siege and instead retreated to the White House were he watched the events unfold on TV. He was there for more than two hours with his knee on the neck of American democracy. He received reports of what was unfolding, texts directly from those caught in it and his advisors plead for him to do something. He did nothing. He watched police be assaulted. He watched congressmen barricade doors. He watched a woman get shot. After several hours, he finally went on TV and appealed directly to his followers attacking the capitol with, "Go home. We love you. You are special." And they left.

No condemnation. No remorse. In fact, he showed quite the opposite. He praised his followers attacking the capitol and then aired his grievances to support their actions. By not condemning the mob and proving he had the power to stop it, he owns that day. There should be consequences.

What is appropriate is up for debate.