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Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       06-14-2017, 1:44 PM Reply   
Well what did you think was gonna happen.

Snoop shoots Tump in a video
Broadway Stabs Trump in a play
Kathey Beheads Trump for photo shoot
Madonna says she wants to blow up the White House in a speech to thousands

Is it really that shocking that another lefty shoots up a baseball game full of Congressional folk
Old     (deneng)      Join Date: Feb 2005       06-14-2017, 1:55 PM Reply   
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Well what did you think was gonna happen.

Snoop shoots Tump in a video
Broadway Stabs Trump in a play
Kathey Beheads Trump for photo shoot
Madonna says she wants to blow up the White House in a speech to thousands

Is it really that shocking that another lefty shoots up a baseball game full of Congressional folk
What did you expect. Arrest them all. Lock em up and prosecute Killary. Empty threats against the Evil left only encourages them.
Old    TheWakeIsReal            06-14-2017, 2:06 PM Reply   
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What did you expect. Arrest them all. Lock em up and prosecute Killary. Empty threats against the Evil left only encourages them.
Lock them up? Free speech there buddy. So now you guys are not only anti-capitalist but anti-constitution. You guys are on a roll.
Old     (deneng)      Join Date: Feb 2005       06-14-2017, 2:37 PM Reply   
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Lock them up? Free speech there buddy. So now you guys are not only anti-capitalist but anti-constitution. You guys are on a roll.
Typical Commie excuse. It is against the law look it up 18 USC 871. "The essence of the offence is knowing and willful making of a true threat. So,if it is proved within a reasonable doubt that the person made a true threat against the President, willfully intending that it be understood by others as a serious threat, then the offense is complete; it is not necessary to prove that the person actually intended to carry out the threat". It's is Evil that Anti-American Commie Liberals insist this is free speech, but do not allow right wing speakers to speak at college campuses.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       06-14-2017, 2:42 PM Reply   
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Typical Commie excuse. It is against the law look it up 18 USC 871. "The essence of the offence is knowing and willful making of a true threat. So,if it is proved within a reasonable doubt that the person made a true threat against the President, willfully intending that it be understood by others as a serious threat, then the offense is complete; it is not necessary to prove that the person actually intended to carry out the threat". It's is Evil that Anti-American Commie Liberals insist this is free speech, but do not allow right wing speakers to speak at college campuses.
I mean I'm sure you read that statute before you cited it, but here's the link for everybody else.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871

Not sure what a written threat deposited in the mail has to do with anything you are talking about?
Old     (deneng)      Join Date: Feb 2005       06-14-2017, 2:53 PM Reply   
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I mean I'm sure you read that statute before you cited it, but here's the link for everybody else.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871

Not sure what a written threat deposited in the mail has to do with anything you are talking about?
www.lectlaw.com/def2/t028.htm for everyone other then liberals
Old     (racer808)      Join Date: Jan 2013       06-14-2017, 2:51 PM Reply   
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Lock them up? Free speech there buddy. So now you guys are not only anti-capitalist but anti-constitution. You guys are on a roll.
Then explain hate speech laws, Mouth of Wisdom?
Old    TheWakeIsReal            06-14-2017, 3:02 PM Reply   
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Then explain hate speech laws, Mouth of Wisdom?
Please, I beg of you to show me hate speech laws. I'll be waiting.
Old     (racer808)      Join Date: Jan 2013       06-14-2017, 3:07 PM Reply   
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Please, I beg of you to show me hate speech laws. I'll be waiting.
"speech that poses an imminent danger of unlawful action, where the speaker has the intention to incite such action and there is the likelihood that this will be the consequence of his or her speech, may be restricted and punished by that law"

"Beauharnis v. Illinois, the Supreme Court developed a free speech jurisprudence that loosened most aspects of the free speech doctrine.[85] In 1942, Justice Frank Murphy summarized the case law: "There are certain well-defined and limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise a Constitutional problem. These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous and the insulting or 'fighting' words – those which by their very utterances inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace."[86]"

We could also discuss the over 350 "speech codes" enforced by our universities & other Gov agencies, if you'd like.

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Old    TheWakeIsReal            06-14-2017, 2:02 PM Reply   
Gotta love the conservatives argument "we need our guns to protect against tyrannical government". Wanna change that stance now that you see what it actually means? This wasn't a law abiding citizen that protected them, it was a cop.
Old     (fouroheight68)      Join Date: May 2006       06-14-2017, 2:05 PM Reply   
And you don't think statements like this have any relevance?



Look, I like Rand Paul, but isn't this statement (probably) exactly what happened? Do you still think he feels the same?
Old     (racer808)      Join Date: Jan 2013       06-14-2017, 2:50 PM Reply   
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Gotta love the conservatives argument "we need our guns to protect against tyrannical government". Wanna change that stance now that you see what it actually means? This wasn't a law abiding citizen that protected them, it was a cop.
I love watching you leftists trying to explain this isn't representative of the left while talking out the other side of your mouths saying it's representative of all guns & their owners. Derp.
Old    TheWakeIsReal            06-14-2017, 2:57 PM Reply   
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I love watching you leftists trying to explain this isn't representative of the left while talking out the other side of your mouths saying it's representative of all guns & their owners. Derp.
Ahh yes, quote me where I said it isn't representive of the left and that it represented all of you.
Old     (deneng)      Join Date: Feb 2005       06-14-2017, 3:06 PM Reply   
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Gotta love the conservatives argument "we need our guns to protect against tyrannical government". Wanna change that stance now that you see what it actually means? This wasn't a law abiding citizen that protected them, it was a cop.
It was somebody with good intentions to protect life using a gun. That is what is all about. Wakeisreal i guess your reasoning would be if it was not a cop and a private citizen that they would have joined in? I really don't see what it matters who shot him . Thank God somebody shot him and it was not in a gun free zone where citizens are a real easy target.
Old    TheWakeIsReal            06-14-2017, 3:26 PM Reply   
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It was somebody with good intentions to protect life using a gun. That is what is all about. Wakeisreal i guess your reasoning would be if it was not a cop and a private citizen that they would have joined in? I really don't see what it matters who shot him . Thank God somebody shot him and it was not in a gun free zone where citizens are a real easy target.

Yes thank god it wasn't in a gun free zone. Those cops would have had to wait till the guy got out of the gun free zone to shoot him.

I want guns to be less accessible so nut jobs like this guy can't get them. I've already read people pro-gun people saying they would have just used a truck of knives, a truck would have been difficult to do this with and a knife wouldn't have been very effective.

There are plenty of safe, lawful gun owners. You guys should have your guns, but by letting any dumbass get them you guys are letting it tarnish your image.
Old     (deneng)      Join Date: Feb 2005       06-14-2017, 3:52 PM Reply   
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Yes thank god it wasn't in a gun free zone. Those cops would have had to wait till the guy got out of the gun free zone to shoot him.

I want guns to be less accessible so nut jobs like this guy can't get them. I've already read people pro-gun people saying they would have just used a truck of knives, a truck would have been difficult to do this with and a knife wouldn't have been very effective.

There are plenty of safe, lawful gun owners. You guys should have your guns, but by letting any dumbass get them you guys are letting it tarnish your image.
I personally do not like guns, but i like that i do have the right to carry or own one. We have laws that are not enforced enough. Lets try those laws first.
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       06-14-2017, 2:21 PM Reply   
That's what cops do. If Scalise wasn't there this morning, would've been much different situation.

I love how we ignore the fact that a Dem shot 3 or 4 people today! Worse than MSM
Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       06-14-2017, 5:58 PM Reply   
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That's what cops do. If Scalise wasn't there this morning, would've been much different situation.

I love how we ignore the fact that a Dem shot 3 or 4 people today! Worse than MSM
So what? There are kooks in both parties. Quit acting like this is a left or right issue.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       06-14-2017, 2:27 PM Reply   
It's Obama's fault.
Old     (deneng)      Join Date: Feb 2005       06-14-2017, 2:47 PM Reply   
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It's Obama's fault.
Yes you are correct. Obama made excuses for terrorism all the time. If we just had more compassion. If we would just give them more resources. If we would all look into ourselves and ask if we are to blame in part for there actions because somebody else is different. Racism exist and those less fortunate are the victims.

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Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       06-14-2017, 2:37 PM Reply   
Crazy people do crazy things. Cant outlaw it, cant stop it. They are F'n crazy. To try to label crazy people as republicans/libritards/lefty's/right wing....is immature and pointless. Time for the adults in this country to grow up and stop creating fake news. The story is, a nutjob shot up a republican softball practice and got what he deserved. Anything else and your adding to the problem.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       06-14-2017, 7:33 PM Reply   
Pretty much sums up gun violence in America, But they always blame the Deer hunting , sport shooting , self protecting republicans and their grip on the 2nd Amendment.

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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       06-14-2017, 8:10 PM Reply   
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Pretty much sums up gun violence in America, But they always blame the Deer hunting , sport shooting , self protecting republicans and their grip on the 2nd Amendment.
Do you realize that is a totally made up statistic? If US society really wants to reduce gun violence then you need to have a grown up discussion about it. Playing them and us solves nothing.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       06-14-2017, 9:11 PM Reply   
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Do you realize that is a totally made up statistic? If US society really wants to reduce gun violence then you need to have a grown up discussion about it. Playing them and us solves nothing.
Really???? Because I can probably get the stats of the 5 major cities in America with the most amount of gun violence and they would all mirror these stats right here. Wonder how many "LEGALLY PURCHASED GUNS were used by LEGAL GUN OWNERS in these instances. More than 90% Democrat I can sure you. The conversation goes like this. Guns are not the issue demographics are, plain and simple. Mind you Chicago is an anti gun city and has the most restrictive gun policies in the nation. As do 3 of the top 5 deadliest cities. What else do this violent places have in common ???? Democratically controlled governments for ages. See how well that works.

Wait. It's those scary black rifles isn't it? They're so deadly......... hmm yet they account for less than 2% of all gun crimes in the nation. Some would argue less than 1% if you account for shootings not just homicides. Yet again hysteria pushed by the left with no stats whatsoever to support their claims.

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Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       06-15-2017, 4:42 AM Reply   
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Really???? Because I can probably get the stats of the 5 major cities in America with the most amount of gun violence and they would all mirror these stats right here. Wonder how many "LEGALLY PURCHASED GUNS were used by LEGAL GUN OWNERS in these instances. More than 90% Democrat I can sure you. The conversation goes like this. Guns are not the issue demographics are, plain and simple. Mind you Chicago is an anti gun city and has the most restrictive gun policies in the nation. As do 3 of the top 5 deadliest cities. What else do this violent places have in common ???? Democratically controlled governments for ages. See how well that works.

Wait. It's those scary black rifles isn't it? They're so deadly......... hmm yet they account for less than 2% of all gun crimes in the nation. Some would argue less than 1% if you account for shootings not just homicides. Yet again hysteria pushed by the left with no stats whatsoever to support their claims.
You are so full of it. One, every gang banger in this country is not a Democrat. That is you just spewing BS. Convicted felons can't vote. Two, Chicago doesn't "have the most restrictive gun policies in the nation". The handgun ban was overturned in 2010. Concealed carry ban was tossed. 2013 ended Chicago's gun registry. Chicago's ban on gun shops was overturned in 2014. Third, your stat about 3 of the 5 deadliest cities having the most restrictive gun laws is made up. St. Louis, Memphis, and Birmingham all make that list and have very lax gun laws. Besides, even if your made up talking point was true and Chicago had the toughest gun laws, it's pretty easy to get a gun in the surrounding areas.

I don't want people to confuse my post as a stance on gun control. Only the point that Swatguy is pushing crap and claiming it to be fact.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       06-15-2017, 7:09 AM Reply   
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You are so full of it. One, every gang banger in this country is not a Democrat. That is you just spewing BS. Convicted felons can't vote. Two, Chicago doesn't "have the most restrictive gun policies in the nation". The handgun ban was overturned in 2010. Concealed carry ban was tossed. 2013 ended Chicago's gun registry. Chicago's ban on gun shops was overturned in 2014. Third, your stat about 3 of the 5 deadliest cities having the most restrictive gun laws is made up. St. Louis, Memphis, and Birmingham all make that list and have very lax gun laws. Besides, even if your made up talking point was true and Chicago had the toughest gun laws, it's pretty easy to get a gun in the surrounding areas.

I don't want people to confuse my post as a stance on gun control. Only the point that Swatguy is pushing crap and claiming it to be fact.


Point me to 3 major cities with a more restrictive gun policies than Chicago since you know so much !!!!!!! You're completely wrong again.

St. Louis and Memphis are close to the top 5 but not there, they just saw the biggest increases to their homicide "rates ". I can't imagine what may have happened in St Louis that would have made criminals think they can run around shooting people with no fear of being prosecuted. Can you? You want to focus on actual "shootings" when discussing gun issues. Birmingham isn't even close to the top 5 . Detroit , Baltimore , New Orleans . Focusing on one aspect ( the murder rate alone is the wrong approach) Actual shooting rates and shooting incidents along with armed robbers , aggravated criminal sexual assaults, aggravated assaults, home invasions ( all crimes with the use of a weapon) are where you want to focus,,,,,,,,,but wait I am sure all those gamgbangers are flocking to the burbs to go buy their guns . You're an idiot

And to say every gangbanger isn't a demcocrat????? Can you point to where that was ever stated ? Again making inferences that were never stated , But I can assure the the gamgbangers in the stats I posted all vote democrat as a group. Election Day is a true spectacle in Chicago.

Convicted felons not be allowed voting rights............ WRONG AGAIN. For Christ sake we have convicted felons holding political office. Here is the law that you again know nothing about. Who is the one posting lies ????!???????

Illinois has passed a specific law which spells out what effect a felony conviction can have on your right to vote in Illinois. The law is set out in 10 ILCS 5/3-5. In Illinois, a convicted felon has just as much of a right to vote as any other citizen in the state. As long as you are not incarcerated, meaning serving a prison sentence, you can register and cast a vote in Illinois.


Thanks for playing as usual.

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Old     (deneng)      Join Date: Feb 2005       06-15-2017, 4:38 AM Reply   
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Pretty much sums up gun violence in America, But they always blame the Deer hunting , sport shooting , self protecting republicans and their grip on the 2nd Amendment.

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You really bring up a very important point. How does the public know when somebody reaches the trigger point. In order to prevent violence Safe Spaces might be a good idea.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       06-14-2017, 10:13 PM Reply   
Who knew solving gun violence would be so easy, you just need to ask one question when selling a fire arm, are you black and/or Democrat. No gun for you boy-o! Easy, problem solved.
Old     (deneng)      Join Date: Feb 2005       06-15-2017, 12:28 PM Reply   
Antifa and the commie lefts best friend. Police must worry about getting fired, and are not to eager to step in. Berkeley is a communist cesspool. NLG observers observe and wear camera just in case the police try to step in.

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