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Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-13-2020, 4:52 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier View Post
You realize that to cover every person in America with just a $10,000 a year policy which is not a very good policy would cost $3 Trillion right?
Welcome back and all, but don’t go wrecking things with facts now! You’ll kill all their talking points!
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-13-2020, 6:26 PM Reply   
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Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       02-14-2020, 4:52 AM Reply   
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Delta! Where you been brother. Anyway, according to you, USA already has a perfectly functional healthcare system so what exactly would you be spending $3T on?
I have been reading. Just making a point to not get sucked into the mess. I did that for several years while Obama was in office. Read everyday. Just did not comment.

Nothing is perfect. Never will argue that things are ever perfect. You will never hear that argument from me.

With that said, health care functions very well here. People do have nonprofit choices (county hospitals) and pay as you can afford choices. People just do not want that choice because it is not of the highest quality or the most timely. The same arguments you get from places like Canada or the UK.

The American unions are against government health care as well. They know that if they get government health care their members will get screwed in quality of care that they fought hard to get.

Love how you leftist scream through the roof about corporate give aways, but are trying like mad to have the biggest corporate give away in history. They would love it if they did not have to provide health care plans to their employees and can simply pass the cost on to the middle class tax payer.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-14-2020, 5:00 AM Reply   
Only fools are climate change deniers. Takes a big man to bully and make fun of a child big guy. You teach your sons to pick fights with girls too? BeBest.
Gonna be an interesting conversation when Barr gets to the house in March. He just lied (again) on Natl TV. The justice dept is no longer independent, No longer represents the US. Its trumps personal vengeance company. The US is no longer a country of Law and Order, we're trumps banana republic. Congrats.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...arfare/606571/
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-14-2020, 5:03 AM Reply   
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With that said, health care functions very well here.
Only if someone other then yourself is paying your health insurance premiums.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       02-14-2020, 5:09 AM Reply   
Where's Wombat? Lol.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj...against-mccabe
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-14-2020, 5:18 AM Reply   
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deep state. duh.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-14-2020, 7:05 AM Reply   
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Only fools are climate change deniers. Takes a big man to bully and make fun of a child big guy. You teach your sons to pick fights with girls too? BeBest.
Gonna be an interesting conversation when Barr gets to the house in March. He just lied (again) on Natl TV. The justice dept is no longer independent, No longer represents the US. Its trumps personal vengeance company. The US is no longer a country of Law and Order, we're trumps banana republic. Congrats.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...arfare/606571/
Translation: Waaaaaaah!

Only fools are people who create straw man arguments. Who says the climate hasn’t changed and shifted over the years? Not me. I just don’t believe changes are caused by man and neither do most objectively thinking people. You’ll have to do a lot better than the current fascist cult info out there to convince me that any macro changes are caused by man. I’m not buying it, pal. Earth-worshipping, secular humanism can suck it too.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-14-2020, 7:10 AM Reply   
Where’s Michael Avenatti been? LOL The best the dems had to offer is about to get a little vacay.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/michael-a...to-extort-nike
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-14-2020, 7:14 AM Reply   
all the presidents men. all the people he said...lock her/him up. all the people trump claimed were guilty. the republican justice dept does investigate. Comey, Clinton, McCabe, Ohr, Page, Strozk, Schiff, the media, James Baker, Mueller...all of them. Nothing. Same result time after time. Zilch. What happed with that Durham investigation, not a word.
So lets continue to believe the ONLY person proven to lie and lie again. The one who seeks vengeance against all who do not bow down. Vindman, Yovanovitch, Taylor, Bolton, Brennan, Romney. Doesnt sound very presidential, more like an autocrat, right?
So, same rules for the next Dem pres? lol


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and neither do most objectively thinking people.
You make that up too?
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-14-2020, 7:16 AM Reply   
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Where’s Michael Avenatti been? LOL The best the dems had to offer is about to get a little vacay.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/michael-a...to-extort-nike
How long til trump tweets to barr its time to get tough on crime?
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       02-14-2020, 7:16 AM Reply   
Climate change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8JZo6PzpCU
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-14-2020, 7:16 AM Reply   
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Only fools are climate change deniers. Takes a big man to bully and make fun of a child big guy. You teach your sons to pick fights with girls too? BeBest.
Gonna be an interesting conversation when Barr gets to the house in March. He just lied (again) on Natl TV. The justice dept is no longer independent, No longer represents the US. Its trumps personal vengeance company. The US is no longer a country of Law and Order, we're trumps banana republic. Congrats.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...arfare/606571/
How is speaking the truth about what actually happened turn into being a bully? That meme is spot on. She and many other whack jobs claimed the fires were caused by climate change. It’s so funny how you weirdos on the left trotted her dog and pony act out like she was some clairvoyant, second coming of Christ delivering the gospel. You ARE the weakest link!
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-14-2020, 7:21 AM Reply   
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all the presidents men. all the people he said...lock her/him up. all the people trump claimed were guilty. the republican justice dept does investigate. Comey, Clinton, McCabe, Ohr, Page, Strozk, Schiff, the media, James Baker, Mueller...all of them. Nothing. Same result time after time. Zilch. What happed with that Durham investigation, not a word.
So lets continue to believe the ONLY person proven to lie and lie again. The one who seeks vengeance against all who do not bow down. Vindman, Yovanovitch, Taylor, Bolton, Brennan, Romney. Doesnt sound very presidential, more like an autocrat, right?
So, same rules for the next Dem pres? lol
In one ear and out the other...



You make that up too?
Nah. Just look around. Besides children being brainwashed daily in public schools, no one believes it. If they did, there’d be sweeping changes taking place-due to the political pressure. Problem is it’ll never grow legs because those same children eventually grow up, learn things, live life, figure out what’s BS and what’s true and then vote accordingly.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-14-2020, 7:41 AM Reply   
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progre...ists-epa-usda/
https://www.theverge.com/2017/1/24/1...th-agriculture
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7544971.html
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       02-14-2020, 8:48 AM Reply   
Michale Avanti. LOL LOL
He was the DemaRATS “guy” when he was trying to Troll TRUMP The DNC was going to back this guys presidential run. Funny how things turn out MAGA= “Michale,Avanti,Got,Arrested”
Oh well I’m still waiting for justice for juicy
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       02-14-2020, 9:15 AM Reply   
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Only fools are climate change deniers. Takes a big man to bully and make fun of a child big guy. You teach your sons to pick fights with girls too? BeBest.
Gonna be an interesting conversation when Barr gets to the house in March. He just lied (again) on Natl TV. The justice dept is no longer independent, No longer represents the US. Its trumps personal vengeance company. The US is no longer a country of Law and Order, we're trumps banana republic. Congrats.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...arfare/606571/
Justice department has never been independent. They constitutionally work for the President. What you people try and confuse is political vs constitutional. Barr works for Trump period. The federal judge who is going to rule on the case works for neither. She has a lifetime appointment. Trump, Barr and all the other prosecutors before can recommend anything they want. They are recommendations. She will sentence based on the law and her belief system. Trump can say and do what he wants in the matter. It is his portion of the government as stated in the constitution and all you democrats can bitch and moan all you want because he is covered under the law. If he wants get can set stone free anytime he wants by the constitution. Nothing you can do about it. It is all political and the politics are in Trumps favor. Have fun with your socialist party.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       02-14-2020, 9:18 AM Reply   
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Only if someone other then yourself is paying your health insurance premiums.
The state of california pays for you and illegals if you qualify. They even are trying to get you to pay for illegals through the age of 26.. What is your point? If you don't have insurance, you go down to county and get your fix. They charge you based on your income. What is the problem? Others are paying for your healthcare. If you are choosing to run a business. That is the breaks. That is thr price of doing business. Their are many laws that give you a hand up over regular workers like me. Hell, you can even write off your vehicle costs. I can not. You can write of portions of your home if you use it for an office. Let's start removing your kickbacks for business then we can talk healthcare.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-14-2020, 9:20 AM Reply   
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The state of california pays for you and illegals if you qualify. They even are trying to get you to pay for illegals through the age of 26.. What is your point? If you don't have insurance, you go down to county and get your fix. They charge you based on your income. What is the problem? .


What do diabetics without insurance so for insulin?
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       02-14-2020, 9:21 AM Reply   
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I was just thinking of that the other day.

What happened to peak oil the democrats were running around crying about a few years ago?
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       02-14-2020, 9:26 AM Reply   
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How is speaking the truth about what actually happened turn into being a bully? That meme is spot on. She and many other whack jobs claimed the fires were caused by climate change. It’s so funny how you weirdos on the left trotted her dog and pony act out like she was some clairvoyant, second coming of Christ delivering the gospel. You ARE the weakest link!
The irony from the left is they put children out as their spokes people because they need the emotion to move the needle. Democrats can only influence children or the emotionally unstable. Always needing a cause. OF course these people and children are being used by evil people to get the regular people to vote away their rights in the name of one world government.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-14-2020, 10:03 AM Reply   
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The state of california pays for you and illegals if you qualify. They even are trying to get you to pay for illegals through the age of 26.. What is your point? If you don't have insurance, you go down to county and get your fix. They charge you based on your income. What is the problem? Others are paying for your healthcare. If you are choosing to run a business. That is the breaks. That is thr price of doing business. Their are many laws that give you a hand up over regular workers like me. Hell, you can even write off your vehicle costs. I can not. You can write of portions of your home if you use it for an office. Let's start removing your kickbacks for business then we can talk healthcare.
exactly as I said. as long as you arnt paying its fine. If you are paying for your own insurance it is a terrible situation that trumps making worse. unlike he promised.
Please explain how being able to write off vehicle expenses has anything to do with healthcare. Anyone can start a biz mowing lawns and write off a portion of their home...just dont forget to add back depreciation upon sale.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       02-14-2020, 10:05 AM Reply   
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What do diabetics without insurance so for insulin?
You tell me. If they were not getting it dealt with, they would all be dead right? Not trying to be crass. I know it is serious and I do feel horrible for those in need, but if you are trying to bracket the issue that is the first boundary. If it is not already being dealt with they are dead. That is the reality is that was really the case. So, I have not seen the death carts rolling around so they must be some mechanism that is working right? What is the reality on the ground under your case and not the alarmist case that people like to drum up for emotional support.

Let me ask you. Why are you not going into debt to pay for those in need of insulin?
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-14-2020, 10:06 AM Reply   
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The irony from the left is they put children out as their spokes people because they need the emotion to move the needle. Democrats can only influence children or the emotionally unstable. Always needing a cause. OF course these people and children are being used by evil people to get the regular people to vote away their rights in the name of one world government.
Who was it that put her up to this? Which Democrats are they? You must know. Stop with starting false narratives.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       02-14-2020, 10:09 AM Reply   
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exactly as I said. as long as you arnt paying its fine. If you are paying for your own insurance it is a terrible situation that trumps making worse. unlike he promised.
Please explain how being able to write off vehicle expenses has anything to do with healthcare. Anyone can start a biz mowing lawns and write off a portion of their home...just dont forget to add back depreciation upon sale.
Those write offs are money back in your pocket. I don't get those right offs. That is more money that I have to come up with to pay for the government while you get to write off items that you need to get to work. I don't get to write off my car to get to work. Take your write off and go buy insurance. If you can not afford all those things while running your own business, then go get a job somewhere that offers you the insurance or go down to the county and get your healthcare. You also have the state insurance plan, that ironically enough, I and you are paying for. We are paying for the poor and the illegals.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       02-14-2020, 10:11 AM Reply   
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Who was it that put her up to this? Which Democrats are they? You must know. Stop with starting false narratives.
I am pretty sure she does not get onto Time magazine and CNN on her own. I have kids and they cried about stuff in their life, but there was no one from world wide news organizations trying to put them on the front page to air their fits.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       02-14-2020, 10:12 AM Reply   
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What do diabetics without insurance so for insulin?
As said before. The state has a state insurance plan and it even covers illegals and up to the age of 26 depending on where the law is now.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       02-14-2020, 10:17 AM Reply   
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exactly as I said. as long as you arnt paying its fine. If you are paying for your own insurance it is a terrible situation that trumps making worse. unlike he promised.
Please explain how being able to write off vehicle expenses has anything to do with healthcare. Anyone can start a biz mowing lawns and write off a portion of their home...just dont forget to add back depreciation upon sale.
Also, I am paying for it through taxes and staying in a position where I have to have many bosses, work nights and weekends, drive 2 hours a day to get there and the whole 9 yards. I don't get my own schedule, work at what I would like to do or the hope of riches of owning a successful business. That is the choice you chose and this is what I chose. I knew I needed stability and healthcare. Apparently you did not which is pretty typically Californian. Typical Cali kid when I moved out here was all thinking of hanging out at their parents house and maybe getting a job somewhere. No freaking concept of the future. All living for now. Now that you are older, you realize you f'ed up and want the ones who did it right to pay for you.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       02-14-2020, 11:10 AM Reply   
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What do diabetics without insurance so for insulin?
Let me ask you this. What did buying that abomination of fake coverage under Obama care get the person who needed insulin? They were required to pay hundreds of dollars a month for coverage that only amounted to covering them in the event that they went to the emergency room. They had to spend that money on that instead of insulin. What do you say to those people for that ill fated pipe dream?
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-14-2020, 1:02 PM Reply   
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Who was it that put her up to this? Which Democrats are they? You must know. Stop with starting false narratives.
That’s a stupid question. All of them helped. Especially the media. It was a stage act from the beginning. No different than all the other wastes of time the dems have led in the past few years. I do believe she was genuinely outraged due to the left wing brainwashing she was victimized by. Poor thing was just an exploited puppet. I’ve never seen a kid that needed an ice cream cone or some other form of cheer in her life more than that girl. Her constant look of having just ate a turd sandwich was hard to watch.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-14-2020, 1:12 PM Reply   
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Those write offs are money back in your pocket. I don't get those right offs. That is more money that I have to come up with to pay for the government while you get to write off items that you need to get to work. I don't get to write off my car to get to work. Take your write off and go buy insurance. If you can not afford all those things while running your own business, then go get a job somewhere that offers you the insurance or go down to the county and get your healthcare. You also have the state insurance plan, that ironically enough, I and you are paying for. We are paying for the poor and the illegals.
We can discuss the pros and cons of owning a business if you like but the point remains the same. Still, im sure you understand that in order to write anything off you have to spend more than 3 times that amount first. One does not "make money" writing off expenses. You dont care about the healthcare issue because someone else pays for your insurance. What happens when your coverage changes? You may change your opinion. BK's for those WITH insurance due to health costs shouldn't happen if the system worked. Crowd funding for healthcare shouldn't be needed.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-14-2020, 1:20 PM Reply   
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I am pretty sure she does not get onto Time magazine and CNN on her own. I have kids and they cried about stuff in their life, but there was no one from world wide news organizations trying to put them on the front page to air their fits.
This doesnt answer the question. If you are going to say that someone is a Dem plant you should have some base in fact. Youre just making stuff up to bully a child, a 16 yr old girl. You feel tough now?
I dont understand grown adults that feel the need to bully literally a little girl. It should be beneath you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greta_Thunberg
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-14-2020, 5:08 PM Reply   
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Let me ask you this. What did buying that abomination of fake coverage under Obama care get the person who needed insulin? They were required to pay hundreds of dollars a month for coverage that only amounted to covering them in the event that they went to the emergency room. They had to spend that money on that instead of insulin. What do you say to those people for that ill fated pipe dream?
So to be clear, your perfectly functional medical system requires everyone including the poor and elderly to pay hundreds of dollars per month for insulin? Actually it’s thousands. Hundreds would be in Mexico.

https://khn.org/news/americans-cross...n-of-u-s-cost/
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-14-2020, 7:01 PM Reply   
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This doesnt answer the question. If you are going to say that someone is a Dem plant you should have some base in fact. Youre just making stuff up to bully a child, a 16 yr old girl. You feel tough now?
I dont understand grown adults that feel the need to bully literally a little girl. It should be beneath you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greta_Thunberg
You get more pathetic with each post you make here. She’s not 16, you lying POS. She’s less than a year from being 18 and if you want to make something of her age, why don’t you go pummel her parents for allowing their mentally ill child to be exploited only because she parroted the left wing BS earth-worshipping asshats that have commandeered the mainstream media airwaves? Opinions like you’ve expressed in this post are precisely why your party is sucking wind. You’ll never win anything when the entire basis of your point requires smoke and mirrors and fake victims. You’ve even gone so far as to fabricate a little girl victim. You are a total loser. Please punch yourself in the face NOW!!!
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-16-2020, 8:13 AM Reply   
I don’t usually care about any presidential pomp and circumstance and I don’t follow NASCAR, but Trump rolled in like a boss today. The flyover was especially awesome. Pretty sure he’s secured the redneck vote with today’s https://www.yahoo.com/sports/preside...200743873.html
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-16-2020, 11:31 AM Reply   
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I don’t usually care about any presidential pomp and circumstance and I don’t follow NASCAR, but Trump rolled in like a boss today. The flyover was especially awesome. Pretty sure he’s secured the redneck vote with today’s https://www.yahoo.com/sports/preside...200743873.html
Trump is a master at working the crowd, very very good.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       02-17-2020, 6:08 AM Reply   
LOL (Trump is a Master at working the Crowd) Wait I thought he was full of Gaffs and always put his foot in his mouth? Sorry I’m confused! Which on is Trump?
Funny how the loony Libs marginalize trumps appeal. He shows up to a Washington nationals World Series game and all the media can report on is “how he was booed”. Yet he shows up at a NASCAR event and it’s a Yuge success but all the media wants to report is how taxpayers funded “the beast” doing a pace lap around the track. I say it was worth the $3 million just to piss off the lonely libs
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-17-2020, 8:19 AM Reply   
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LOL (Trump is a Master at working the Crowd) Wait I thought he was full of Gaffs and always put his foot in his mouth?
Both of those things are true!

Credit where credit is due, fiscally he is a disaster, personally I'm sure he is no fun to be around, morally he has no compass but he sure can throw a mean rally.

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Funny how the loony Libs marginalize trumps appeal.
I literally just remarked on his appeal, try to keep up G.
Old     (stevo8290)      Join Date: Sep 2008       02-17-2020, 2:24 PM Reply   
216 pages so far. What happens to this thread once trump is re-elected?
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-18-2020, 2:57 AM Reply   
Well... if history tells us anything, it’ll be another 5 years of WW liberals crying, whining and trying to make us all hate the orange man.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       02-18-2020, 3:51 AM Reply   
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216 pages so far. What happens to this thread once trump is re-elected?
nothing, it will continue with the majority of people replying in support of the changes that have happened and supporting the pres, and a select few will continue to hate or dislike or disagree with the current admin.

Would be best to kill it, then let a new one start, but its been about everything and anything. its a divided world we live in and sometimes there needs to be pain and hardship financial and freedoms need to be removed. maybe being a socialist for awhile will get some to realize why we are not, until people use common sense and change their extreme left agenda. we can all have views in the middle with America being 100% #1 for everyone.

Bernie is not that guy, socialism is not the answer
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-18-2020, 5:34 AM Reply   
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Bernie is not that guy, socialism is not the answer
If you look at Bernies policies rather than republican talking points you might realize he is a democratic socialist not a socialist/communist. Think Sweden/Denmark not Venezuela.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-18-2020, 5:36 AM Reply   
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its a divided world we live in and sometimes there needs to be pain and hardship financial and freedoms need to be removed.
Right about removing freedoms. No ethics, no morals, its all about revenge. Autocracy is not the answer.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...y-meeting-over
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-18-2020, 5:49 AM Reply   
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If you look at Bernies policies rather than republican talking points you might realize he is a democratic socialist not a socialist/communist. Think Sweden/Denmark not Venezuela.
I see what you did there. Way to put the frosting on that turd cake! No thanks. I'll keep my freedom, thank you.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-18-2020, 5:58 AM Reply   
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Right about removing freedoms. No ethics, no morals, its all about revenge. Autocracy is not the answer.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...y-meeting-over
The left brought it on themselves and continue to do so. It's *** for tat. Dealing with the left is like dealing with Iran. You don't respect anything, but sheer force. You've been hitting below the belt for so long, I don't care what Trump does as long as it follows the most narrow part of the law. This is a war that was started by the left, their TDS and their inability to accept the 2016 election results.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-18-2020, 6:14 AM Reply   
I dont recall Obamas enemy hit list, whos trial/s did they fix. remind me. …..still waiting.
How many more times are you going to whine about "cant accept the 2016 election"... One trick pony? whine on snowflake.
The only party running w/o respect is the one that ran the sham cover-up of an impeachment trial. The one who hired Barr to cover-up, assist guilty trump people and harass, investigate, and remove innocent honest Americans, literally Purple Heart recipients. This is a lot like how Putin did it. Scare and silence all who question the autocrat. Tactics.
" I dont care what trump does"... no need to broadcast that, its pretty obvious.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-18-2020, 6:30 AM Reply   
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I dont recall Obamas enemy hit list, whos trial/s did they fix. remind me. …..still waiting.
How many more times are you going to whine about "cant accept the 2016 election"... One trick pony? whine on snowflake.
The only party running w/o respect is the one that ran the sham cover-up of an impeachment trial. The one who hired Barr to cover-up, assist guilty trump people and harass, investigate, and remove innocent honest Americans, literally Purple Heart recipients. This is a lot like how Putin did it. Scare and silence all who question the autocrat. Tactics.
" I dont care what trump does"... no need to broadcast that, its pretty obvious.
Whaaat? Obama never had an enemies list? Who illegally spied on Trump's campaign then? I'll stop mentioning your party's inability to accept 2016 just as soon as you do, Mr. Coup. It was the impeachment that was the sham and it's been proven already. The majority of Americans feel that way too and you'll see this indisputable proof in November, pally. How's that shiner I told you to give yourself?
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-18-2020, 8:14 AM Reply   
No one. Are you that uneducated? Only trump is stupid enough to try to get away with saying he was spied on. Trumps Justice dept did what he said. They investigated. You tell me. What was the result of that republican led investigation on the "oranges"? need help? They said the FBI had good cause to investigate. Good cause means "NO SPYING". Your own investigators found squat. Now go back to your liars corner, youre on time out child. While there, read up on all your republican led investigations, all the ones trump had to have to prove how stupid he is and how much he lies. Clinton (6-7 times), Comey, McCabe... all of them zilch. Just more trump lies that you seem to suck down with gusto. Dont expect anyone else to swallow it.
The impeachment provided all needed proof trump cheated (again). Just because the GOP senators lead the cover-up does mean it wasnt justified. It only means the GOP is complicit. The majority? Trumps 35%? lol.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-18-2020, 8:36 AM Reply   
Hmm... and sicking the IRS on countless people doesn't count? Face it. You and your party are done. Buh bye.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-18-2020, 10:22 AM Reply   
Weak but honest attempt. good try for a guy who likes to bully mentally challenged little girls. It isnt the same. Not even close. Thats why over 2000 DOJ employees didnt erupt and the fed judges organization didnt have to put together emergency meeting like for trumps crimes. Slowing down tax exempt status thru IRS is like jaywalking compared to politicizing the Dept of justice and using it for your personal and political interest. His oath says to serve the country, not himself.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-18-2020, 10:52 AM Reply   
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Weak but honest attempt. good try for a guy who likes to bully mentally challenged little girls. It isnt the same. Not even close. Thats why over 2000 DOJ employees didnt erupt and the fed judges organization didnt have to put together emergency meeting like for trumps crimes. Slowing down tax exempt status thru IRS is like jaywalking compared to politicizing the Dept of justice and using it for your personal and political interest. His oath says to serve the country, not himself.
LOL I wish I cared enough to argue this more. Where's Delta when we need him???

You dummies are the Barney Fife's of jaywalking when it comes to Trump. Enjoy your flogging in November! TTFN. Ta Ta For Now!
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-18-2020, 4:20 PM Reply   
Amazing how over 50 years later, we’re still fighting the idiots on the left for freedom in our own country. This old speech is very revealing as far as how long and hard evil leftists will work to erase all that our soldiers have died for. You evil F-tards on the left should be ashamed. No wonder you’re losing your shirts. America finally woke up to your evil. https://www.facebook.com/jasonhowert...9222085250198/
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-18-2020, 4:39 PM Reply   
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Amazing how over 50 years later, we’re still fighting the idiots on the left for freedom in our own country
And yet you celebrate a president who gratuitously keeps your soldiers in harm's way with pointless wars and over spends by $1T per year setting you up for decades of debt slavery. You have no idea what freedom means.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-18-2020, 6:26 PM Reply   
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And yet you celebrate a president who gratuitously keeps your soldiers in harm's way with pointless wars and over spends by $1T per year setting you up for decades of debt slavery. You have no idea what freedom means.
Your entire post is worthless drivel. None of it is true. Try to watch the clip again and learn something from it.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-19-2020, 5:28 AM Reply   
I watched it. The last thing he says is that "government does nothing as well or as economically as the private sector of the economy."

What about:
Military
Police
Fire Protection
Schools
Roads
Public Health (CDC)
parks
prisons
border protection
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-19-2020, 6:22 AM Reply   
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I watched it. The last thing he says is that "government does nothing as well or as economically as the private sector of the economy."

What about:
Military
Police
Fire Protection
Schools
Roads
Public Health (CDC)
parks
prisons
border protection
Where applicable, the private sector does far better than the government on every one of those. Did you really mean to mention schools in that list?
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-19-2020, 6:42 AM Reply   
Here's some classic libtard pretzel logic. She wants equality, gets it and then wants segregation. The party of free speech and inclusion strikes again!
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/stud...202133308.html
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-19-2020, 9:28 AM Reply   
You'd have to be a pretty weak little snowflake to take offense at what teenagers say.
Bulling more girls, you are on a roll now. Why dont you pick on someone your own size. Better yet, just grow up.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-19-2020, 9:34 AM Reply   
Its a lot of dirty work trying to tie up all the loose ends of cheater. Trump makes the Astros look good.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-...nge-for-saying
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-19-2020, 9:35 AM Reply   
Pretty sweet of Trump to pardon the felon Rod Blagojevich.
That turd tried to sell a Senate seat, extorted money from a children’s hospital & blames his crimes on a political conspiracy. Trump must have got confused and thought it was his twin brother.

Drain the swamp! Or something.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-19-2020, 9:54 AM Reply   
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Where applicable, the private sector does far better than the government on every one of those. Did you really mean to mention schools in that list?
I did. Show me an example of an outsourced military where we can just pay mercenaries to fight and die for us rather than having our skin in the game.

Show me a school *system* that has been privatized the serve the needs of *all* students that does it better than public schools (gotta take the ADD kids, the poor kids, the kids whose parents are tweakers).

I mean I guess you've got the foreign policy one on me tho -- outsourcing to Rudy has proven that.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       02-19-2020, 10:16 AM Reply   
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If you look at Bernies policies rather than republican talking points you might realize he is a democratic socialist not a socialist/communist. Think Sweden/Denmark not Venezuela.
I work for a finish company. They are having all kinds of issues, they cannot get working class people to work, there service industry is failing, everyone wants free Sh@t No one wants to work, or want part time work. BTW everyone has a masters degree. So, everyone wants a white collar job. only 6million people and they have tried the free 900 a month, etc etc People have limited incomes, limited growth, and limited abilities, a lot move to the USA for opportunity. So, its not as pretty as it sounds
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       02-19-2020, 10:23 AM Reply   
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I work for a finish company. They are having all kinds of issues, they cannot get working class people to work, there service industry is failing, everyone wants free Sh@t No one wants to work, or want part time work. BTW everyone has a masters degree. So, everyone wants a white collar job. only 6million people and they have tried the free 900 a month, etc etc People have limited incomes, limited growth, and limited abilities, a lot move to the USA for opportunity. So, its not as pretty as it sounds
They are really nice people, great place to live, very safe, and there are reasons why. They have no population. Put 300 million under scandic countries and you have south america all over again. Aprox 25 million people live in Scandinavia,

9 million live in New york city, almost half of all scandinavia. Do the math. Why is the European union dealing with their financial issues? Brexit? There is a reason. In the years to come, more European counties will move towards conservative approaches and lean less on socialistic economics

Bernie is a Communitist/socialist, riding on the coat tails of the Dems
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-19-2020, 12:33 PM Reply   
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I work for a finish company. They are having all kinds of issues, they cannot get working class people to work, there service industry is failing, everyone wants free Sh@t No one wants to work, or want part time work. BTW everyone has a masters degree. So, everyone wants a white collar job. only 6million people and they have tried the free 900 a month, etc etc People have limited incomes, limited growth, and limited abilities, a lot move to the USA for opportunity. So, its not as pretty as it sounds
Doug, when you say "finish company" you mean a company based in Finland, right? People that have earned a Masters degree would be under employed at a "working class" job. Why go thru all the effort to earn a degree and be satisfied with anything less than a full time white collar job, I mean thats the whole point of upper level education isnt it? So, your point is they have more people than good jobs? Sounds similar to most small towns across the country.

lol, Bernie is not communist/socialist those are right wing talking points (as ralph said). Reality is quite different than Fox/Trump reviews. Read and decide for yourself. Dude hasn't changed much in 40+ years.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-19-2020, 12:46 PM Reply   
LOL, Julian Assange accuses Trump of offering him a pardon if he stated the Russians didn't hack Hillarys emails. So funny, I hope the Dems impeach him again, just to see heads explode in rage.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       02-19-2020, 1:05 PM Reply   
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Doug, when you say "finish company" you mean a company based in Finland, right? People that have earned a Masters degree would be under employed at a "working class" job. Why go thru all the effort to earn a degree and be satisfied with anything less than a full time white collar job, I mean thats the whole point of upper level education isnt it? So, your point is they have more people than good jobs? Sounds similar to most small towns across the country.

lol, Bernie is not communist/socialist those are right wing talking points (as ralph said). Reality is quite different than Fox/Trump reviews. Read and decide for yourself. Dude hasn't changed much in 40+ years.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/
They are changing their educations system, trying to ween down their rising unemployment rates by limited free programs. cutting programs to allow everyone to have free 6yr education plans, arguing to increase paper production, one of their largest export products, increase their milk farms, another #2 export product, get youth to take service driven jobs Learn core working skills, understand work ethic. . like construction, plumbing, electrical etc etc. no one wants to do it. They have an aging population and cannot cover the costs. Have been in a financial decline of over 10 years. I can go on forever. Its a culture issue,

they have brilliant people, kind people, but socializing everything takes away the responsibility of the masses. Everything is free, and if you don't want to work, someone will cover the bill. Not all are this way, not all are that way here.

they don't go through all the effort, it is free education, paid tuition and everyone has one. makes having one worthless. Not everyone should be an engineer or a doctor etc etc. I am not saying anything bad about the people. Its a great place, love to go and visit, but they too have problems with socialism and are trying to move away from the burden aspect of it.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       02-19-2020, 3:49 PM Reply   
Trump is literally for sale. Disgusting.

https://www.salon.com/2020/02/19/rep...rdoned-report/
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-19-2020, 6:43 PM Reply   
Oh My Goodness. Watching tonight’s libtard debate....... it looked like 6 monkeys tryin to hump a football. Trump could pardon Al Capone at this point and still kick any libtard’s as$ in November. You libbies need to invent a new reason why your ideas are better than ours or yer gonna keep gettin whooped bad. Kyuh kyuh! C’mon, Cletus!!! Giddyup!!! Kyuh kyuh!
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-20-2020, 12:11 AM Reply   
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Oh My Goodness. Watching tonight’s libtard debate....... it looked like 6 monkeys tryin to hump a football. Trump could pardon Al Capone at this point and still kick any libtard’s as$ in November. You libbies need to invent a new reason why your ideas are better than ours or yer gonna keep gettin whooped bad. Kyuh kyuh! C’mon, Cletus!!! Giddyup!!! Kyuh kyuh!
I don't disagree to be honest, in this WWE style political environment the current dem crop is hopelessly outmatched by the Don.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-20-2020, 12:27 AM Reply   
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they don't go through all the effort, it is free education, paid tuition and everyone has one. makes having one worthless. Not everyone should be an engineer or a doctor etc etc. I am not saying anything bad about the people. Its a great place, love to go and visit, but they too have problems with socialism and are trying to move away from the burden aspect of it.
greed and envy are powerful drugs. They are the fuel for great leaps and innovations and they are also the fuel for social upheaval. And as I said about a million posts up in this thread, they may well end up being our undoing.

Would you rather be born as a king 400 years ago or as a lower middle class American today? Even the most average among us will have antibiotics, free primary education, electricity, plumbing, emergency medical care, free access to more information than any one person could ever consume. A life expectancy that's double. But you'd also have to live with being a "have not" because the folks across the tracks or on the other side of town have a bigger house and bigger cars and can afford to send their kids to a nicer college.

A little bit of that envy is good... it keeps everyone striving. Too much and you get a revolution.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-20-2020, 12:30 AM Reply   
He's certainly not my pick, but I enjoyed Bloomberg's responses in a Monty Burns / rich guy from Trading Places / pardon me to you have any grey poupon satirical kind of sense. He's definitely a little rusty interacting with the normals.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-20-2020, 1:57 AM Reply   
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He's certainly not my pick, but I enjoyed Bloomberg's responses in a Monty Burns / rich guy from Trading Places / pardon me to you have any grey poupon satirical kind of sense. He's definitely a little rusty interacting with the normals.
Good analogy. He’s definitely in need of some coaching. The most interesting part of last night was how unapologetically he reacted to The Bern for being rich as he was being attacked. I love that he flipped the script and ratted Bernie out for having three houses while he only has one. That was hilarious. It’s pretty funny watching 6 libtards punch each other in the mouths.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       02-20-2020, 5:18 AM Reply   
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So to be clear, your perfectly functional medical system requires everyone including the poor and elderly to pay hundreds of dollars per month for insulin? Actually it’s thousands. Hundreds would be in Mexico.

https://khn.org/news/americans-cross...n-of-u-s-cost/
They need to fix the pharma industry. Many meds that you can get for dogs are the same they use for humans. As soon as they find out they are used for humans they change the price 10x.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       02-20-2020, 5:26 AM Reply   
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No one. Are you that uneducated? Only trump is stupid enough to try to get away with saying he was spied on. Trumps Justice dept did what he said. They investigated. You tell me. What was the result of that republican led investigation on the "oranges"? need help? They said the FBI had good cause to investigate. Good cause means "NO SPYING". Your own investigators found squat. Now go back to your liars corner, youre on time out child. While there, read up on all your republican led investigations, all the ones trump had to have to prove how stupid he is and how much he lies. Clinton (6-7 times), Comey, McCabe... all of them zilch. Just more trump lies that you seem to suck down with gusto. Dont expect anyone else to swallow it.
The impeachment provided all needed proof trump cheated (again). Just because the GOP senators lead the cover-up does mean it wasnt justified. It only means the GOP is complicit. The majority? Trumps 35%? lol.
The democrats know the procedures. They know if they plant fake information, the FBI has to look into it. That is how that works. A compliant media, a few democrat anti Trump agents and there you go. Full on investigation. From Trumps perspective it is spying. From a sane person, it is a clear political hit job. To democrats, it was Trump must have done something because we said he did.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       02-20-2020, 5:32 AM Reply   
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I did. Show me an example of an outsourced military where we can just pay mercenaries to fight and die for us rather than having our skin in the game.

Show me a school *system* that has been privatized the serve the needs of *all* students that does it better than public schools (gotta take the ADD kids, the poor kids, the kids whose parents are tweakers).

I mean I guess you've got the foreign policy one on me tho -- outsourcing to Rudy has proven that.
School system fails all those kids all the time. Thousands of kids make it to high school without being able to read. Many go on to not contribute to society at all. Historically private institutions out perform public institutions. That makes sense as you remove the unmotivated from the private typically.

Military is set up that if you don't contribute, they shoot you or throw you into prison for a historical perspective. Now, not so much but they will jail you or kick you out quick if you don't comply. Today's military is somewhat of a mercenary military in that people are going in for training/ a job out of high school. Many are not motivated by going to kill others.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-20-2020, 6:10 AM Reply   
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That makes sense as you remove the unmotivated from the private typically.
That's my point. Show me an all private system that serves the needs of all students and does it less expensively.

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Military is set up that if you don't contribute, they shoot you or throw you into prison for a historical perspective. Now, not so much but they will jail you or kick you out quick if you don't comply. Today's military is somewhat of a mercenary military in that people are going in for training/ a job out of high school. Many are not motivated by going to kill others.
Many many many are also motivated by a sense of patriotism and duty to country. When I stand for the national anthem, or give thanks for the fallen on memorial day or thank a veteran on veteran's day, I'm not including Blackwater, and I don't think the President is laying a wreath at the tomb of the fallen mercenaries.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-20-2020, 6:16 AM Reply   
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They need to fix the pharma industry. Many meds that you can get for dogs are the same they use for humans. As soon as they find out they are used for humans they change the price 10x.


Good, so you do agree that the prescription drug component of our system needs fixing.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-20-2020, 6:28 AM Reply   
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Good, so you do agree that the prescription drug component of our system needs fixing.
Who doesn’t?
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-20-2020, 6:53 AM Reply   
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Who doesn’t?
Delta? He said:

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If you don't have insurance, you go down to county and get your fix. They charge you based on your income. What is the problem? Others are paying for your healthcare.
That's all well and good for emergency care, but leaves folks with medically treatable cronic conditions (like diabetics) out in the cold.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-20-2020, 6:56 AM Reply   
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The democrats know the procedures. They know if they plant fake information, the FBI has to look into it. That is how that works. A compliant media, a few democrat anti Trump agents and there you go. Full on investigation. From Trumps perspective it is spying. From a sane person, it is a clear political hit job. To democrats, it was Trump must have done something because we said he did.
Its really difficult to FAKE over 250 trump campaign contacts with Russians including Don Jr, Kushner, Flynn, Sessions and.... Its also pretty tough to go back in time (20 years) and fake trumps credit rating that forced him to work with Deutsche Bank and Russian money laundering. It was difficult to take over the trump inaugural from his people and walk off with the missing $50-60 million that he is under investigation. One of the more difficult was to fake trump in Helsinki and make his lips say the words, I trust Putin, I dont know why he would lie, the day after ALL US intelligence agencies said Russia interfered and how and what they did. Remember that time in trumps speech the dems lip synced... Russia, if you are listening.... F-ing genius these democrats. Crazy Dems told WIKI head Assange, hey, if you will lie for us and cover our tracks we can work something out, wink wink. Those tricky dems pulled out all their tricks to get Roger Stone to lie to the FBI and force him to threaten witnesses. The way they got Flynn to lie about his Russian contacts is the stuff of 4K chess, right? That dem plant that faked how trump and his sister duped the IRS and didnt pay tax on that little inheritance from dad. I dont think she expected to be forced to quit her lifetime appointment as a fed judge, but she did to avoid investigations, damn crafty dems. I still dont get how they got him on the phone with Ukraine and had him ask them for help on his 2020 presidential election, they are just that good. They really stepped it up when the bullied him into buying a 6 ft picture of himself, the Tebow helmet and pay $250 M in legal fees and donations to his own campaign with funds from his "Charity" that was collected under the pretense of helping our Veterans. Your a sharp guy, how'ed they do any of that? Lets get to the bottom of this.
Marge says they are monkey's trying to hump a football, you are saying their F-ing stable geniuses, changing history, forcing trump to say things, do things he didnt. Wow, a Super Power Party.
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