Biden for Prez

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

still have not refuted what I said. firearms includes handguns, shotguns and rifles. You are just not smart are you?

democrats still run those cities. Illinois if you go by the rest of the state is Republican however chicago dominates the state. Calinfornia is pretty much Republican but is dominated by LA and San Fran

I have 3 times, you just refuse to believe fact. Hammers even with the benefit of adding in all "blunt instruments" still lag by a long shot.
Your claim (ie, lie)... "more people were killed last year with hammers and fists than rifles."

https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/q...guns-in-the-us
So Dems run 1 city out of 10 with most killings and that proves what? That you are wrong again. Unless Dems are running Alabama, Miss, Louisiana, Wyoming, Missouri, Alaska, Arkansas, S. Carolina, Tenn and Montana then you are not just wrong but massively wrong. This just for you Delta. In a city of 10 million, there will be more deaths, murder....than in small towns. Why? Because they have a lot more people. Big cities have different and more complex issues than little or small towns. Its common sense, are you saying you have no common sense?

Originally Posted by 95sn

I have 3 times, you just refuse to believe fact. Hammers even with the benefit of adding in all "blunt instruments" still lag by a long shot.
Your claim (ie, lie)... "more people were killed last year with hammers and fists than rifles."

https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/q...guns-in-the-us
So Dems run 1 city out of 10 with most killings and that proves what? That you are wrong again. Unless Dems are running Alabama, Miss, Louisiana, Wyoming, Missouri, Alaska, Arkansas, S. Carolina, Tenn and Montana then you are not just wrong but massively wrong. This just for you Delta. In a city of 10 million, there will be more deaths, murder....than in small towns. Why? Because they have a lot more people. Big cities have different and more complex issues than little or small towns. Its common sense, are you saying you have no common sense?

And everytime you reference firearms which includes ALL firearms not just rifles.

The democrats are running the cities in which the crimes happen. They own all centers for power. The police. The prosecutors. The people who are committing the crimes vast majority align and vote democrat. Saying the state is Republican is like saying I am responsible for the DA in San Fran and LA.

Big towns do not have more complex issues than small towns. If anything, small towns have more complex issues. They don't have built in money streams. So what you are telling me is that money thrown at programs and the economy does not improve the standard of living and the quality of people involved? Only difference is the big towns have bought in to democrat talking points and have regulated accordingly. Now you see the outcomes.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

And everytime you reference firearms which includes ALL firearms not just rifles.

The democrats are running the cities in which the crimes happen. They own all centers for power. The police. The prosecutors. The people who are committing the crimes vast majority align and vote democrat. Saying the state is Republican is like saying I am responsible for the DA in San Fran and LA.

Big towns do not have more complex issues than small towns. If anything, small towns have more complex issues. They don't have built in money streams. So what you are telling me is that money thrown at programs and the economy does not improve the standard of living and the quality of people involved? Only difference is the big towns have bought in to democrat talking points and have regulated accordingly. Now you see the outcomes.

The families of the dead could not care less how many hammer deaths there are in the USA. The Uvalde shooter, the Buffalo shooter both carried assault rifles to mass murder. Had they had hammers maybe the police would have been less pussy-like.
Are you Crazy? What cities in Alabama are dem run? or any of the others? If they "owned" all centers for power, how did trump get elected, Why dont they pass gun laws? Green energy? Why are they making abortion illegal? You nutz!

Originally Posted by 95sn

The families of the dead could not care less how many hammer deaths there are in the USA. The Uvalde shooter, the Buffalo shooter both carried assault rifles to mass murder. Had they had hammers maybe the police would have been less pussy-like.
Are you Crazy? What cities in Alabama are dem run? or any of the others? If they "owned" all centers for power, how did trump get elected, Why dont they pass gun laws? Green energy? Why are they making abortion illegal? You nutz!

Now we are back to emotion.

Other shooters used hand guns which was the big push the last decade. The story and outrage always change but the agenda does not. Other mass murderers used cars or basic farm chemicals. You know what the most basic theme is? Bad people doing bad things. There are a billion guns. Sorry, they are just not the issue. Love to see the drug habits of these people. Not much discussion about that.

Trump got elected due to elections of the people not by the centers of power nor the 5 or so metropolitan areas that are democrat group think.

Which city in Alabama is Democrat? Uh Birmingham. Birmingham is 70% black. Blacks vote democrat at a clip of 88% to 83% historically. Now see other stat about 50% of all murders being committed by black Americans. It really is not that hard.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Now we are back to emotion.

Other shooters used hand guns which was the big push the last decade. The story and outrage always change but the agenda does not. Other mass murderers used cars or basic farm chemicals. You know what the most basic theme is? Bad people doing bad things. There are a billion guns. Sorry, they are just not the issue. Love to see the drug habits of these people. Not fmuch discussion about that.

Trump got elected due to elections of the people not by the centers of power nor the 5 or so metropolitan areas that are democrat group think.

Which city in Alabama is Democrat? Uh Birmingham. Birmingham is 70% black. Blacks vote democrat at a clip of 88% to 83% historically. Now see other stat about 50% of all murders being committed by black Americans. It really is not that hard.

If dead kids give you no emotion, i cant help you.
No the story never changes, its always the exact same, some one kills a bunch of people using a gun. Its the exact same story every time. Afterward its always, too many doors, violent vid gaming, Black people, Democrats, Defund the Police, mental health (while simultaneously refusing to fund mental healthcare), legalized weed, unarmed teachers, lack of god, abortion, CRT, Porn, .....Completey failing to connect the single link that the only constant in every single gun death is it requires a gun. They also fail to notice that the more lax gun laws are there is a direct correlation to gun death. Republicans only refuse to do anything most of the country wants them to do. NRA approval is not a majority opinion, its minority that republicans support. "There are a billion guns, but they are not the problem". you are mental. FYI, Democrats aim is to get guns out of all unstable White people, unstable Black people...everyone equally who should not have them. Trump was another minority elected prez, most people didnt want him, he got in on a technical win only. Then when he lost again he decided to take matters into his own hands and over-throw the US Government. And you support that guy. Hey did ANYONE find even a sliver of election fraud he promised? All those rallies he held he stated over and over and over again he had the proof. 100's of audits, recounts, fake electors, busting open Dominion machines, almost 100 loser lawsuits... not a single thing. Nothing. And you believe it, lol.

Originally Posted by 95sn

If dead kids give you no emotion, i cant help you.
No the story never changes, its always the exact same, some one kills a bunch of people using a gun. Its the exact same story every time. Afterward its always, too many doors, violent vid gaming, Black people, Democrats, Defund the Police, mental health (while simultaneously refusing to fund mental healthcare), legalized weed, unarmed teachers, lack of god, abortion, CRT, Porn, .....Completey failing to connect the single link that the only constant in every single gun death is it requires a gun. They also fail to notice that the more lax gun laws are there is a direct correlation to gun death. Republicans only refuse to do anything most of the country wants them to do. NRA approval is not a majority opinion, its minority that republicans support. "There are a billion guns, but they are not the problem". you are mental. FYI, Democrats aim is to get guns out of all unstable White people, unstable Black people...everyone equally who should not have them. Trump was another minority elected prez, most people didnt want him, he got in on a technical win only. Then when he lost again he decided to take matters into his own hands and over-throw the US Government. And you support that guy. Hey did ANYONE find even a sliver of election fraud he promised? All those rallies he held he stated over and over and over again he had the proof. 100's of audits, recounts, fake electors, busting open Dominion machines, almost 100 loser lawsuits... not a single thing. Nothing. And you believe it, lol.

funny I can ask the same thing about demonrats. It has been directly linked to democrat policies going all the way back to the 60's on how they have destroyed the nuclear family and the violence that is directly proportional to not having the family unit in tact. it has taken 10s of thousands of black lives through violence since it has been in place. You guys don't care. You are doubling down. Heck tripling down. Now you are trying to spread our wealth by killing our infrastructure. That does not put any pressure on the American family at all.

Great talking points in your head. Fact. Our country is not ruled my mob rule. We have certain rights and having a firearm to counter the federal government or foreign invaders is one of them. Not going anywhere. it would take a 2/3 state majority to get rid of it. over a billion guns in the country. Only people you would impact with your insane laws would be law abiding citizens. it works just so well for the disarmed law abiding populations in chicago.

electoral college is another institution set up by the constitution. You see, the federal government was set up for a combined defense and to be a go between to foreign powers. Other than that, the states retain the rights to governance. Thus the feds had zero power to tell states what to do during covid.

Originally Posted by 95sn

If dead kids give you no emotion, i cant help you.
No the story never changes, its always the exact same, some one kills a bunch of people using a gun. Its the exact same story every time. Afterward its always, too many doors, violent vid gaming, Black people, Democrats, Defund the Police, mental health (while simultaneously refusing to fund mental healthcare), legalized weed, unarmed teachers, lack of god, abortion, CRT, Porn, .....Completey failing to connect the single link that the only constant in every single gun death is it requires a gun. They also fail to notice that the more lax gun laws are there is a direct correlation to gun death. Republicans only refuse to do anything most of the country wants them to do. NRA approval is not a majority opinion, its minority that republicans support. "There are a billion guns, but they are not the problem". you are mental. FYI, Democrats aim is to get guns out of all unstable White people, unstable Black people...everyone equally who should not have them. Trump was another minority elected prez, most people didnt want him, he got in on a technical win only. Then when he lost again he decided to take matters into his own hands and over-throw the US Government. And you support that guy. Hey did ANYONE find even a sliver of election fraud he promised? All those rallies he held he stated over and over and over again he had the proof. 100's of audits, recounts, fake electors, busting open Dominion machines, almost 100 loser lawsuits... not a single thing. Nothing. And you believe it, lol.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edpa/pr...election-fraud

Former U.S. Congressman and Philadelphia Political Operative Pleads Guilty to Election Fraud Charges

PHILADELPHIA – United States Attorney Jennifer Arbittier Williams announced today that former U.S. Congressman Michael “Ozzie” Myers, 79, of Philadelphia, PA, pleaded guilty today to conspiracy to deprive voters of civil rights, bribery, obstruction of justice, falsification of voting records, and conspiring to illegally vote in a federal election for orchestrating schemes to fraudulently stuff the ballot boxes for specific Democratic candidates in the 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018 Pennsylvania elections.

You also have the documentry 2000 mules where they geo tracked 2000 people in 5 swing states that would visit dozens of drop boxes in one car ride.

Like I said you will never prove absolute. Millions of ballots sent out to the ether. No requirement for ID. perfect plan.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edpa/pr...election-fraud

Former U.S. Congressman and Philadelphia Political Operative Pleads Guilty to Election Fraud Charges

PHILADELPHIA – United States Attorney Jennifer Arbittier Williams announced today that former U.S. Congressman Michael “Ozzie” Myers, 79, of Philadelphia, PA, pleaded guilty today to conspiracy to deprive voters of civil rights, bribery, obstruction of justice, falsification of voting records, and conspiring to illegally vote in a federal election for orchestrating schemes to fraudulently stuff the ballot boxes for specific Democratic candidates in the 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018 Pennsylvania elections.

You also have the documentry 2000 mules where they geo tracked 2000 people in 5 swing states that would visit dozens of drop boxes in one car ride.

Like I said you will never prove absolute. Millions of ballots sent out to the ether. No requirement for ID. perfect plan.

Its like I have been saying for years. Voter fraud is pretty rare, and when it happens our LEO's catch the guilty. Your post proves it.
LOL, 2000 Mules is another fake right wing whacko conspiracy made by a convicted felon trump pardoned...and you believe it. lol.
The Associated Press (AP) reported that the film relies on "faulty assumptions, anonymous accounts and improper analysis of cellphone location data" provided by True the Vote, a conservative vote-monitoring organization.[6] National Public Radio (NPR) found that True the Vote "made multiple misleading or false claims about its [own] work".[7] AP reported that the film's assertion that True the Vote identified 1,155 paid mules in Philadelphia alone was false. The film presented a single unverified anonymous witness who said she saw people picking up what she "assumed" were payments for ballot collection in Arizona; no evidence of payments was presented in any of the other four states.[6] The film characterizes the alleged operation as "ballot trafficking" with "stash houses", but presents no evidence that ballots were illegally collected to be deposited in drop boxes and does not claim any ballots were unlawful.[6][8][9][10]
Sounds like a blockbuster.
Delta you are an F-ing idiot, I have posted this at least 5 times FOR YOU. You cannot register to vote W/O an ID. Only citizens can vote. When fraud happens, its caught as evidenced by your own post and the couple hundred caught voting trump more than once.
https://www.usa.gov/voter-id
https://news.yahoo.com/ap-looked-202...120554815.html
https://www.politicususa.com/2021/10...publicans.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...on/6259980002/
And last but not least, the right wing Heritage Foundation, 1200 cases in last 4 years total. So, which race was changed with 1200 votes over 4 years???
https://www.heritage.org/election-in...-fraud-america
Such a @#%(!, , Mail in ballots are safe, there are voter rolls that balance out. Go ahead, vote more than once using a mail in ballot. Let me know when LEO shows up. Did you even graduate 8th grade?? Jeezus.

Originally Posted by 95sn

I have 3 times, you just refuse to believe fact. Hammers even with the benefit of adding in all "blunt instruments" still lag by a long shot.
Your claim (ie, lie)... "more people were killed last year with hammers and fists than rifles."

https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/q...guns-in-the-us
So Dems run 1 city out of 10 with most killings and that proves what? That you are wrong again. Unless Dems are running Alabama, Miss, Louisiana, Wyoming, Missouri, Alaska, Arkansas, S. Carolina, Tenn and Montana then you are not just wrong but massively wrong. This just for you Delta. In a city of 10 million, there will be more deaths, murder....than in small towns. Why? Because they have a lot more people. Big cities have different and more complex issues than little or small towns. Its common sense, are you saying you have no common sense?

Here are the facts:

Year after year. Rifles are NOT used for murders.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ta-table-8.xls

right from the FB freaking I.....

Knives outpace rifle by 4x year after year.
blunt objects nearly 2 to 1 year after year
Fists, feet, body parts: Nearly 2 to 1 to 3 to 1 ending in 1.5 to 1. Still more than rifles.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Here are the facts:...

According to the facts, firearm deaths dwarf all other causes. And the percentage increase over 2013-2017 is higher than all other causes except narcotics (probably opioids).

Get rid of all guns and keep the rifles. As long as you're restricted to single shot muzzle loaders like the founders intended, we should be fine.

Originally Posted by fly135

According to the facts, firearm deaths dwarf all other causes. And the percentage increase over 2013-2017 is higher than all other causes except narcotics (probably opioids).

Get rid of all guns and keep the rifles. As long as you're restricted to single shot muzzle loaders like the founders intended, we should be fine.

So you are after a rifle that kill over 300 of todays population with one trigger pull? I am good with that.

Originally Posted by fly135

According to the facts, firearm deaths dwarf all other causes. And the percentage increase over 2013-2017 is higher than all other causes except narcotics (probably opioids).

Get rid of all guns and keep the rifles. As long as you're restricted to single shot muzzle loaders like the founders intended, we should be fine.

They also wrap up suicide into that statistic.

The Uvalde and Buffalo massacres were orchestrated by the Democrats, the FBI and other “letter agencies” in order to provide a pretext for gun control.
They are coming for our guns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have to believe a lot of conspiracies to be republican.

Originally Posted by 95sn

The Uvalde and Buffalo massacres were orchestrated by the Democrats, the FBI and other “letter agencies” in order to provide a pretext for gun control.
They are coming for our guns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have to believe a lot of conspiracies to be republican.

I don't believe that. more stuff you are making up. I just know that democrats have all these bills waiting knowing there will be something and as soon as it happens they try and use the emotion to take it. You really have not caught on yet that running any institution or your life for that matter should not have decisions made on emotion. I certainly do not trust organizations that rely on emotion to manipulate people into giving them what they want. facts simply are not on your side.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

I don't believe that. more stuff you are making up. I just know that democrats have all these bills waiting knowing there will be something and as soon as it happens they try and use the emotion to take it. You really have not caught on yet that running any institution or your life for that matter should not have decisions made on emotion. I certainly do not trust organizations that rely on emotion to manipulate people into giving them what they want. facts simply are not on your side.

Idiots at Fox entertainment have been telling the idiots watching that Democrats are taking our guns away for over a decade. The results??? More mass shooting than ever in history and more than any other country except maybe Mexico. More guns than people. More states than ever before allowing anyone with a gun to carry w/o a permit, w/o any training, w/o anything, just like the Wild West, except they took the guns when you entered town. Ghost guns available to anyone because republicans in congress afraid to act. Assault rifles available to anyone 18+ at Walmart, Dicks Sporting goods and Guns are us store near you for 18 or older in most red states. Hows that for taking your guns away?? Fox lied again, surprise.
You dont understand jack. It isnt emotional to enact laws when wrong happens over and over, week after week, year after year. Is it emotional when there is one trans swimmer in the country winning races and 25 red states immediately make laws banning trans athletes? Emotional much? You are more manipulated than the finger hole in Pinocchio's azz. We are talking about 100's of innocent dying because republicans love their guns more than life. Sad. LOL, Fox entertainment (and the entire AM radio right wing wackos)is using emotional, fear based arguments and misinformation daily, its all they have. Dems are Evil, Dems are Radical, They take our guns, Covid rules are taking your Freedumbs, masks dont work, Hydroxy, Horse paste, death numbers are fake, Biden is causing gas prices to go up, Climate change fake news, The Voter fraud!!, Obama not a citizen, Obama the worst president in history when we had 2 deaths from Ebola, trump kills off 100,000's from covid and you worship his fake hollywood actor conman azz. He tried a coup de tate and you still lick his jock. Fox entertainment, its like news if news didnt rely on any facts.
Not a single one of those things ever happened. LOL, the puppet being played says" I dont trust organizations that rely on emotion" how about lies?? cause facts, not on your side.
https://www.mediamatters.org/sean-ha...id-thats-false

Originally Posted by 95sn

The Uvalde and Buffalo massacres were orchestrated by the Democrats, the FBI and other “letter agencies” in order to provide a pretext for gun control.
They are coming for our guns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have to believe a lot of conspiracies to be republican.

You have a short drug induced memory loss. Obama and Clinton tried to use the fact they were selling guns to cartels themselves and then one of them made it back and killed a US Agent as an excuse to try and ban semiauto rifles. Never trust a democrat