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Old     (jixxxer)      Join Date: Apr 2006       05-22-2008, 8:52 AM Reply   
Ok, not everyone here has a true wakeboat, so lets see pics of you getting air behind your I/O! I would love to see what a pro can do behind a baylier, would there be tricks he couldnt land?
Old     (burban89)      Join Date: Nov 2006       05-22-2008, 10:01 AM Reply   
My buddy was throwing backrolls behind my old bayliner. He could do all his grabs and 180s. That was with no weight in the boat. I might have pics i will look for them.
Old     (bcrider)      Join Date: Apr 2006       05-22-2008, 10:05 AM Reply   
I had front rolls and tantrums on an I/O
Old     (eas)      Join Date: Nov 2001       05-22-2008, 10:12 AM Reply   
sorry...no pics....but search you tube for some old school stuff; it'll amaze you how long some of the most difficult inverts have been around....long before tech boards/bindings and massive wakes. i'm sure there are some tricks they couldn't (or wouldn't want to) do, but when you're that good, it's all technique....most of us (emphatically including myself) like a big wake because it allows for less technique.

I will say that driving and maintaining wake shape on an i/o vs. wakeboat is a lot different!
Old     (lovin_the_wake)      Join Date: Jul 2007       05-22-2008, 10:13 AM Reply   
I used to have an old 89 FourWinns and with about 1100lbs in it it threw a fat wake and you could get a pretty fat wake off of it
Old     (jbarber3orange)      Join Date: Aug 2007       05-22-2008, 10:28 AM Reply   
MOntgomery, where did you place most of the ballast? Rear? Front?
Old     (jenk2board)      Join Date: Feb 2007       05-22-2008, 10:35 AM Reply   
Use the search and you can find a video of Byerly doing some sick tricks on a little boat and wake.

(Message edited by jenk2board on May 22, 2008)
Old     (wake4chicks)      Join Date: Oct 2006       05-22-2008, 10:38 AM Reply   
this is me three years ago behind my parents outboard 17.5 ft bayliner. no weight. i get massive air off a wakeboat now since i practiced so long behing this..
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this is behind my friends 06 centurion
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Old     (skatehawk11)      Join Date: May 2008       05-22-2008, 10:39 AM Reply   
This thread rules! i will get some pics this weekend or next weekend!
Old    justinh            05-22-2008, 10:46 AM Reply   
That bayliner wake doesn't look bad at all.

Those are my roots. I learned all my basics up to whirlybirds and 540s behind my dads outboard bayliner. I still enjoy a couple of sets a year behind it. We built an extended pylon for it in the mid 90s. I bet it is at least 12' tall.

Good thread.
Old     (balr54)      Join Date: May 2004       05-22-2008, 10:53 AM Reply   
You would be surprised how much weight you can actually get in a bayliner. I love the bayliner... haha!!

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Old     (junker_lf)      Join Date: Sep 2007       05-22-2008, 12:52 PM Reply   
behind my Sea Ray 185. I think in this picture I had around 900, now I probably have 1200lbs in there.
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Old     (iamnathanhudson)      Join Date: Dec 2002       05-22-2008, 12:55 PM Reply   
what happened to your vest?
Old     (bartush)      Join Date: Jan 2007       05-22-2008, 2:11 PM Reply   
look at my profile pic
Old     (airwarrior04)      Join Date: Aug 2004       05-22-2008, 2:13 PM Reply   
put a damn vest on! lol
Old     (depswa)      Join Date: Nov 2000       05-22-2008, 2:22 PM Reply   
I used to have an old Bayliner with a 5.0L V8 that threw a pretty decent wake with just one 500lb sack in the bow and the prop trimmed up about 1/4. Didn't even have a tower...just a Skylon Pylon.

Arun Frances was probably the first person I saw throw inverts behind it. His first trick out of the water was a HUGE O.H.H. and we all said "Damn!!!" Ron Cafferky was another guy that killed it behind my boat. He was throwin' Crow Mobes, Gigantic HS Front Flips, Raleys, Hoochies, etc. It was nuts to see and just made me realize that yea, a big wake helps, but if your fundamentals are correct, you can do most of the same stuff behind an I/O.

Sorry I don't have pics...but keep 'em coming!!
Old     (zleartsu)      Join Date: Mar 2004       05-22-2008, 2:36 PM Reply   
Ok! I have a bayliner! 17 ft, 4 banger!Upload

Starts first time everytime, puts out about the same wake as a jet ski! but I LOVE HER to DEATH. If it werent for her I would have nothing!

BUT with her I get to wakeskate everynight!
Its pretty crazy though. The weight limit is 550 pounds or 5 people and we have had two 450 lb fat sacks, cement blocks and people in there, but the wake still only about a foot tall!


any way! BAYLINERS KICK ASS!
Old     (junker_lf)      Join Date: Sep 2007       05-22-2008, 2:41 PM Reply   
It was way to hot out for a vest haha..
Old     (daxxruckus)      Join Date: May 2008       05-22-2008, 3:38 PM Reply   
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My gf behind my '07 Maxum 1800 SR3. With the merc Hi-5 and a 600lb skylon locker sack, the wake is pretty much dialed. Just waiting on Perfect Pass.
Old     (bbr)      Join Date: Apr 2002       05-22-2008, 3:42 PM Reply   
In every pic, the wakes are totally washed out, what gives?
Old     (daxxruckus)      Join Date: May 2008       05-22-2008, 3:45 PM Reply   
You ever tried to keep a nice peak while driving an I/O without perfect pass? Pretty damn near impossible.
Old     (bbr)      Join Date: Apr 2002       05-22-2008, 3:55 PM Reply   
Even that dudes Centurian is washed out.
Old     (daxxruckus)      Join Date: May 2008       05-22-2008, 3:59 PM Reply   
Depends on where you are riding too. I know in mission bay its pretty much impossible to get good clean water. Have to deal with a lot of chop most of the time since there are 1000 idiots out on wave runners.

If you adjust your trim you can sometimes get it pretty peaked. I have started keeping it a little less than 1/4 of the way up, and it helps keep a better lip on the wake.

Here is prob the best I can keep it.Upload
Old     (extremeisaac)      Join Date: Aug 2005       05-22-2008, 4:10 PM Reply   
my Bayliner.. hopefully it will be replaced at the end of this season

300lb sac in the bow + 4 people + trim up 1/4

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Old     (jtnz)      Join Date: Sep 2007       05-22-2008, 4:19 PM Reply   
Nice Ian, how much weight are you running there?

I've got a pic on my profile, but still not much air there. I need to get the boat running again (waiting on a new alternator) and get out there this winter and get more air, and more pictures of it... Been too long, and surfing is hard work compared to wakeboarding.
Old     (daxxruckus)      Join Date: May 2008       05-22-2008, 4:21 PM Reply   
Thx Jos,

in that pic its actually without the sack. No ballast, but having the hi-5 prop helps, and thats with the trim slightly up. 4 people in the boat, 2 in the back, 2 up front. I have a 600lb skylon locker sack that makes it much better. Will have pics after this weekend.
Old     (wakeeater2003)      Join Date: Mar 2004       05-22-2008, 4:23 PM Reply   
Isaac,
No more XT what you thinkin about moving on to?
Old     (ethan31)      Join Date: Jun 2007       05-22-2008, 4:34 PM Reply   
Last summer, Sea ray 175....no sacs

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Old     (extremeisaac)      Join Date: Aug 2005       05-22-2008, 5:26 PM Reply   
Mike, dont know.. my first choice would be a nautique... other than that im pretty easy.. all I care about is storage, goes through chop nice, perfect pass etc... I like the mobius, used wakesetter sanger... X1 whatever...
Old     (kingskrew)      Join Date: May 2004       05-22-2008, 6:02 PM Reply   
DBG Kayot I/O, zero ballast:
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Old     (kingskrew)      Join Date: May 2004       05-22-2008, 6:07 PM Reply   
That's at roughly 24mph (no PP) and 75'. Those kayots put out a d@mn nice wake, I was impressed. And only 1 person in the boat!

-Steve
Old     (daxxruckus)      Join Date: May 2008       05-22-2008, 6:24 PM Reply   
Steve you know Gary and Chad? I was just out there on the Kayot a couple weeks ago and rode/surfed behind it. Definitely awesome wake! I built their website, hang out with those guys quite a bit. Might be meeting up with chad @ the river this weekend.

You should come for a pull in mission bay sometime.
Old     (kingskrew)      Join Date: May 2004       05-22-2008, 6:47 PM Reply   
Yeah, Gary and Chad are good guys. Those pics are from the river last summer, they wanted to get some shots for their catalog. In fact, if you built the website, that's me on the homepage, haha. I'd be down to hit up the bay sometime, I live about 5 min from the ramp.

-Steve
Old     (bbr)      Join Date: Apr 2002       05-22-2008, 7:03 PM Reply   
What's a Kayot?
Old     (kingskrew)      Join Date: May 2004       05-22-2008, 7:06 PM Reply   
Gary's Kayot looks sorta like this:
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Old     (jixxxer)      Join Date: Apr 2006       05-22-2008, 7:29 PM Reply   
nice guys! Give us i/o guys a lil hope! Keep em coming!!!!
Old     (wake1012)      Join Date: Jan 2007       05-22-2008, 7:51 PM Reply   
21ft Mariah i/0. No ballast two people in boat. Little trimUpload
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Old     (daxxruckus)      Join Date: May 2008       05-22-2008, 8:02 PM Reply   
Ha! I'm pretty familiar with your pics then. I live in Bay Park right off Cmont drive. We ride in the bay all the time, but are heading out to the river for memorial day. what are your plans?
Old     (wakedv)      Join Date: May 2007       05-22-2008, 11:33 PM Reply   
Boatload of people and trimmed up.
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Old     (skink)      Join Date: May 2008       05-23-2008, 10:06 AM Reply   
behind my buddies 96 fourwinns i/o, zero ballast


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Old     (wake4chicks)      Join Date: Oct 2006       05-23-2008, 10:13 AM Reply   
the reason my budies centurions wake is washed out is because he had just bought it and did not hav the wake dialed in. and he was also goiong slower then i usually ride at. his first boat. he was keeping it going bout 17 mph. i told him to kick it up to at least 22mph. now it is peaked like no other with faster speed plus he put an 800 lb sac in the bow, a 250 in the center, and a 400 lb stock ballast in the back lockers.

and i think this would giv off a sik wake if it wasnt run up on a sandbar

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Old     (spicoli512)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-23-2008, 10:46 AM Reply   
massively sik wake indeed
Old     (sunsport)      Join Date: Sep 2002       05-23-2008, 1:55 PM Reply   
Works for us. . . .

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Old     (pete_moss)      Join Date: Sep 2007       05-24-2008, 11:41 AM Reply   
http://web.mac.com/nicholasludwig/S.P.Y./Wake_and_Snow/Pages/Wake_Boarding_2.html#36


I didn't know how to post the picture...so..I posted the website. We're all new to the sport and we're riding behind a Crownline...I don't know anything else other than it's red. LOL!! I notice most people at least have a tower. The first time I ever wakeboarded I had a tower. I wish I could get behind one now just to see the difference!!! Then again I'd prolly kill myself!!
Old     (jixxxer)      Join Date: Apr 2006       05-24-2008, 7:43 PM Reply   
heres mine from today.....4 adults 2 kids, no ballast

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Old     (wakeboarder46)      Join Date: Jun 2007       06-02-2008, 8:52 PM Reply   
if i hav a 95 centrion where should i put most of the weight. when i hav a 680 fat sac in the back the wake is ok. suggestions of what to do?
Old     (mtownrydr)      Join Date: Apr 2008       06-02-2008, 10:43 PM Reply   
Here is one behind my buddy's parents 23 ft. Larson w/ a monster tower and no ballast.

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Old     (mtownrydr)      Join Date: Apr 2008       06-02-2008, 10:47 PM Reply   
I/O's are sweet but you can't beat the ol inboard wake...had my lil 19 ft prostar throwin a nasty wake this weekend with 2100 lbs off in it!
Old     (damned04)      Join Date: May 2005       06-03-2008, 9:44 AM Reply   
All behind my buddy's chaparral w/ tower. His friend has a bigger one that throws a huge steep wake, it's pretty fun for an IO
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Old     (woohoo)      Join Date: Jun 2006       06-03-2008, 1:29 PM Reply   
The second pic is prolly a year old I think. Hahah I know the first pic isn't alot of air, I just like the sun hitting the fin. 16 foot Larson with no tower and no weight, and only a driver and spotter. Get alot higher now, just don't have any pics of it.
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