A combination of education, society, the media, social media, the fact that this country is morally bankrupt enough to elect a president who makes fun of handicapped people and cheats on his wife with porn stars, who knows. And why don't we know? Because the NRA and the GOP have passed laws that prohibit the Government from studying gun violence. Thanks to their desire to keep everyone ignorant we won't know for sure for years.
In any case, all of the things that might be causing the issue are very long term problems that need to be dealt with in the long term. In the mean time, how can we stop the violence TODAY? The left is proposing a solution. What is your solution?
So basically you tell me I am completely wrong , and then type the same exact points I have talked about in every post as the actual issues..........those being education , social media, news media , and the society 8 yea of Obozo left us with........ What do you feel in wrong with education, media, society , and mental health?
What exact laws were passed that prohibit the study of gun violence ? There are 100’s studies out there . I know your blinded by your hate of guns , but let’s be real here.
What exact laws were passed that prohibit the study of gun violence ? There are 100’s studies out there . I know your blinded by your hate of guns , but let’s be real here.
So a law passed over 20yrs ago , limiting one single entity of government , that being the CDC , the ability to investigate gun violence is your claim of pro gunners prohibiting gun research ?
So a law passed over 20yrs ago , limiting one single entity of government , that being the CDC , the ability to investigate gun violence is your claim of pro gunners prohibiting gun research ?
That’s one of the biggest stretches so far
The CDC are the people that do research on stuff like this. And yes it was passed over 20 years ago and for 20 years the Democrats have been trying to undo it and for 20 years the NRA and GOP have been stopping them. And in that time the CDC has been able to research SQUAT about gun violence.
I suppose a guy from a country that has a population less than a single state and a demographic that’s 92% white would have a hard time figuring that out. I am also guessing the extremely low population density factors in ........oh wait.........Nope none of that is a factor ............. It’s clear the border access and immigration policies of Australia are very raciallly bias . Can we send Al and Jessie to Aussieland in order to march and help boost the diversity ?
You want to keep comparing Australia to America lets compare the apples to apples portion .........take Idaho , Maine , New Hampshire , North Dakota , South Dakota , Iowa , Kentucky , and Montana . Run their gun homicide and violent crime data , compare it to Australia and get back to me . Till then , you and every other idiot trying to use Australia as a benchmark for gun violence reform can go pound sand. Just like all the gun violence data you see regurgitated from the the leftist news media ... take whatever number you get and cut it in half , because over half the gun violence numbers they spit out include suicides. Not just violent crime related deaths . Not only do they skew those numbers. , they also now skew “school shooting” numbers by classifying any shooting on school property as a “school shooting” so you know ,the gamgbanger on gamgbager shootings plhorn didn’t want to mention, those are included as “school shootings “ in statistics now to create even more hysteria, b ut I am sure you knew all that.
I suppose a guy from a country that has a population less than a single state and a demographic that’s 92% white would have a hard time figuring that out. I am also guessing the extremely low population density factors in ........oh wait.........Nope none of that is a factor ............. It’s clear the border access and immigration policies of Australia are very raciallly bias . Can we send Al and Jessie to Aussieland in order to march and help boost the diversity ?
You want to keep comparing Australia to America lets compare the apples to apples portion .........take Idaho , Maine , New Hampshire , North Dakota , South Dakota , Iowa , Kentucky , and Montana . Run their gun homicide and violent crime data , compare it to Australia and get back to me . Till then , you and every other idiot trying to use Australia as a benchmark for gun violence reform can go pound sand. Just like all the gun violence data you see regurgitated from the the leftist news media ... take whatever number you get and cut it in half , because over half the gun violence numbers they spit out include suicides. Not just violent crime related deaths . Not only do they skew those numbers. , they also now skew “school shooting” numbers by classifying any shooting on school property as a “school shooting” so you know ,the gamgbanger on gamgbager shootings plhorn didn’t want to mention, those are included as “school shootings “ in statistics now to create even more hysteria, b ut I am sure you knew all that.
You keep bringing up other "gun violence" because you know that you have no legs to stand on when it comes to nutjobs shooting up the public.
You can't blame the minorities, you can't blame poverty, you can only blame society in general and you know that there is no good way to fix that. The only answer is to take away your precious toys or accept that kids will be regularly slaughtered in the US. Which choice are you gonna make? American school children or your toys?
You keep bringing up other "gun violence" because you know that you have no legs to stand on when it comes to nutjobs shooting up the public.
You can't blame the minorities, you can't blame poverty,
See above post to once again prove your out of touch view of reality . They’re actually very related
I suppose a guy from a country that has a population less than a single state and a demographic that’s 92% white would have a hard time figuring that out. I am also guessing the extremely low population density factors in ........oh wait.........Nope none of that is a factor ............. It’s clear the border access and immigration policies of Australia are very raciallly bias . Can we send Al and Jessie to Aussieland in order to march and help boost the diversity ?
You want to keep comparing Australia to America lets compare the apples to apples portion .........take Idaho , Maine , New Hampshire , North Dakota , South Dakota , Iowa , Kentucky , and Montana . Run their gun homicide and violent crime data , compare it to Australia and get back to me . Till then , you and every other idiot trying to use Australia as a benchmark for gun violence reform can go pound sand. Just like all the gun violence data you see regurgitated from the the leftist news media ... take whatever number you get and cut it in half , because over half the gun violence numbers they spit out include suicides. Not just violent crime related deaths . Not only do they skew those numbers. , they also now skew “school shooting” numbers by classifying any shooting on school property as a “school shooting” so you know ,the gamgbanger on gamgbager shootings plhorn didn’t want to mention, those are included as “school shootings “ in statistics now to create even more hysteria, b ut I am sure you knew all that.
I'm not from Australia and I'm not comparing the US to it?
they also now skew “school shooting” numbers by classifying any shooting on school property as a “school shooting” so you know ,the gamgbanger on gamgbager shootings plhorn didn’t want to mention, those are included as “school shootings “ in statistics now to create even more hysteria, b ut I am sure you knew all that.
Regardless, one school shooting justifies plenty of hysteria, and we are WAY past that.
Just like all the gun violence data you see regurgitated from the the leftist news media ... take whatever number you get and cut it in half , because over half the gun violence numbers they spit out include suicides. Not just violent crime related deaths .
Here is a fun little homework assignment for you ... go and research "mass shootings by ethnicity", this means it isn't suicides or one off events like the "gamgbanger" (what?!) but large scale mass shooting like the point of this thread. Also here is a hint ... when it happens again you can be almost positive its a white male behind it....
my point, when you say:
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ake Idaho , Maine , New Hampshire , North Dakota , South Dakota , Iowa , Kentucky , and Montana .
....immigration policies of Australia are very raciallly bias
You're saying this **** isn't happening in Rural white parts of the country - like AUS, blame the people who are brownish. I tend to agree that the vast majority of one-off shootings will happen in dense urban areas (there are a lot more high strung people in those areas). When it comes to a psycho gunning down 10+ people in a ****ty terror attack, that usually is some white male.
Here is a fun little homework assignment for you ... go and research "mass shootings by ethnicity", this means it isn't suicides or one off events like the "gamgbanger" (what?!) but large scale mass shooting like the point of this thread. Also here is a hint ... when it happens again you can be almost positive its a white male behind it....
my point, when you.
Of course the chances of a mass shooter being white vs being of color is a good bet . The white population outnumbers the black over 6-1. Let me enlighten you on your research data you wanted me to lookup ........ You should probably sit down and grab a beer and some lube.
White Population
-245,532,000
Black Population
-37,144,530
Mass shooters from 1982-2018
- 56 White
-16 Black
So the population of whites is roughly 6.61 times that of blacks.
Let’s take the numbers here ......
White Mass Shooters
-245,532,00/56 = 0.00000023. Or 0.023 per 100,000
Black Mass Shooters
-37,144,530/16 =0.00000043 or 0.043 per 100,000
So according to the data the corresponding rate of black mass shooters is 1.87 times higher than whites . Once again data disproving the false claims made by the left and yourself that mass shooters are disproportionately white. That pesky actual unbiased data proving another common misconception false and once again backing the fact a certain demographic is more prone to violence than another. Let’s add some other data just for icing on the cake and an educational opportunity . The murder rate among blacks in 6.27 time higher than that of whites (directly from Burea of Justice statistics ) a second report stated whites were responsible for 45% of all homicides between 1982 -2010 ( the data up to 2018 was unavailable ) while representing 74% of the population while blacks represented just 13% of the population.
So there you have the actual numbers, WHITES ARE NO MORE LIKELY TO BECOME MASS SHOOTERS THAN BLACKS. ITS ACTUALLY QUITE THE OPPOSITE
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The NRA contributes to the Democrats and Republicans.
Trump also told the governors he ate lunch last weekend with leaders of the National Rifle Association (NRA):
"Don't worry about the NRA,” Trump told the governors. ”They're on our side.”
Just another good guy with a gun not stopping the bad guys.
Nick How do you stop a guy with a Gun while hiding out behind your car? OOOOO i forgot your a Lib yes this is how you guys get things done. You regulate and "community organize' from behind your car or desk, while real hero's with guns handle business.
Wes: I like how you report on every Tweet or Thing Trump says. Your like the Perez Hilton of all things Trump http://mobi.perezhilton.com
Do they pump these feeds into all safe spaces you hang out and post from?
Wes: I like how you report on every Tweet or Thing Trump says. Your like the Perez Hilton of all things Trump http://mobi.perezhilton.com
Do they pump these feeds into all safe spaces you hang out and post from?
Do you ever get tired of not adding anything constructive to the conversation? I guess you simply enjoy being Trump's fluff boy.
Nick How do you stop a guy with a Gun while hiding out behind your car? OOOOO i forgot your a Lib yes this is how you guys get things done. You regulate and "community organize' from behind your car or desk, while real hero's with guns handle business.
Do you have any real world examples of "real hero's with guns handling business" that doesn't fall into the "community organize" category? Or are you just blowing smoke.
Do you have any real world examples of "real hero's with guns handling business" that doesn't fall into the "community organize" category? Or are you just blowing smoke.
That's very nice. Do you want me to now show you how many "good guys with guns" shoot themselves, their families, or their friends on accident. It won't be just 4 hits.
Pretty sure you know as well as I do that the odds of a good guy shooting a bad guy are WAY WAY worse than a good guy shooting himself.
here are the numbers:
Fact-check: Owning a gun has been linked to higher risks of homicide, suicide, and accidental death by gun.
• For every time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns in or around a home.
• 43 percent of homes with guns and kids have at least one unlocked firearm.
• In one experiment, one third of 8-to-12-year-old boys who found a handgun pulled the trigger.
I know that your thinking "but I'm a responsible gun owner" which is what every gun owner says until they are not.
Its just like pitbull owners who say "my dog doesn't bite" until it does.
Wake: I’have said it b4, as far as TRUMP. Trump is like Roach Spray to libs . I’m not a “fan” of roach spray but I sure like what it does to roaches.
Plhorn: if you do a search on YouTube of the cops in Texas that gun down that BLM roach that shot up a bunch cops on that march in Texas. That’s one example of Hero’s going after some coward randomly shooting people. They literally go barrel to barrel With this guy. If your intrested in more videos of good guys with guns ending Roaches check out this YouTube Chanel https://youtu.be/ak1r4bKJ0Bc
Nick: you libs accuse me of being a Trump fluf boy but you guys pull each other’s puds with miss leading statements like our friend Nick:
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The NRA contributes to the Democrats and Republicans.
Trump also told the governors he ate lunch last weekend with leaders of the National Rifle Association (NRA):
"Don't worry about the NRA,” Trump told the governors. ”They're on our side.”
But what nick left out says somthing 100% diffrent. O well more fake news.
"Don't worry about the NRA,”They're on our side.”and want to do somthing to address the issue I guess cutting the statement short like you did serves your agenda. Keep it up I’m sure the snowflakes love your detailed reports
The only racial group that falls well outside the population line - and it's in the "good" direction - is Latinos as you can see in the chart (same data set that Swat is referencing). The rest easily fall into a margin of error in reporting, not to mention the shaky and shifting definition of "mass shooting" currently being 4 people killed in a public place in less than 24 hours... For example, does someone who fires off a **** ton of rounds, injures or maims dozens but only ends up mortally wounding 3 people really not deserve to be on this list?
However, although the list falls pretty cleanly along statistical race population lines, it's a different story when it comes to gender.
0.3% were committed by women. How about we restrict men to handguns and shotguns only...
That's very nice. Do you want me to now show you how many "good guys with guns" shoot themselves, their families, or their friends on accident. It won't be just 4 hits.
Link gives further creedance to the theory that journalism is dead. No meaningful details about the shots fired situation, but we all got a lesson on where the majority of the nations carpet is produced.
Yes. Not sure what this has to do with that debate but if you can twist it to fit your narrative its fair game....
uh.. the shooter was the teacher. Not much twisting to say that arming the teachers is a stupid idea. Especially when we apparently can't even afford to give them school supplies.
F you dude. You're a racist cop. You're ten times worse than anything I could ever be.
Besides, I teach math. Politics or any other BS that seems to dominate your life has no place in my classroom.
Calm down Jeremy . You're setting a bad example for your students. All we see is an easily offended individual who attacks others intelligence and resorts to name calling. Oh and calls others out for doing the same. Hypocritical?
No they don't. I stated there are plenty of people that would be more than willing to do so. It absolutely doesn't say EVERY X military teacher would. I am sure thats how you read it though.
I'm a teacher. You can ask me if I think it's a good idea and I'll explain to you why it is not.
If a mass shooter was in your school would you feel safer knowing it was a Gun Free Zone and the Police were 20 minutes away? Careful, this is an IQ test. I personally would feel much safer with a concealed weapon. I can draw,point,aim and shoot as fast as you can dial 911. My response will be traveling at 1200 to 1500 feet per second. Depending on which weapon i'm carrying. The 911 operator won't even have your location before the mass shooter knows my response team is here and they're serious.
If a mass shooter was in your school would you feel safer knowing it was a Gun Free Zone and the Police were 20 minutes away? Careful, this is an IQ test. I personally would feel much safer with a concealed weapon. I can draw,point,aim and shoot as fast as you can dial 911. My response will be traveling at 1200 to 1500 feet per second. Depending on which weapon i'm carrying. The 911 operator won't even have your location before the mass shooter knows my response team is here and they're serious.
No one is questioning that having a gun when an armed shooter is in the building is a good thing. The problem is that the VAST MAJORITY of the time there is no armed shooter in the building. There are however a bunch of human beings that might be having a very bad day that now have easy access to guns. There are kids who, if my experience in high school says anything, are very good at getting into locked places and playing with/taking stuff they know they are not supposed to.
If the odds of stopping a bad guy at school with a gun vs accidentally killing someone in school with a gun reflects the odds of stopping a bad guy at home vs accidentally killing someone at home with a gun. Then there will be many more kids dying NOT less. The statistics are very clear having a gun does NOT make you safer it makes you FEEL safer, like a teddy bear.
Careful, this is an IQ test. I personally would feel much safer with a concealed weapon. I can draw,point,aim and shoot as fast as you can dial 911. My response will be traveling at 1200 to 1500 feet per second.
Yeah, but where would the bullet be going? Whizzing through a crowded classroom in the general direction of an assumed shooter. What could go wrong? Do you know when police fire there weapons 70-50% of the bullets don't hit the intended target depending on the distance? Where do the other bullets go? How would the teacher live with themselves when friendly firing their pupils? http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/we...w/09baker.html
Yeah, but where would the bullet be going? Whizzing through a crowded classroom in the general direction of an assumed shooter. What could go wrong? Do you know when police fire there weapons 70-50% of the bullets don't hit the intended target depending on the distance? Where do the other bullets go? How would the teacher live with themselves when friendly firing their pupils? http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/we...w/09baker.html
These Dirty Harry wet dreams are farcical
The first thing you learn in gun safety is know what's behind your target. You don't just shoot a gun at thin air. You have to be tactical in your confrontation with a mass shooter. The best way to be tactical is to have a plan in place with each participant knowing what their job is. When you have 5 to 10 security officers/teachers to address a mass shooter they will neutralize him quickly.
The shooter being a teacher doesn't have anything to do with training and arming a select few teachers per school. The article doesn't say anything about her having the right to carry a gun on campus. Its just about some lady that went nuts. But I would expect you to see any of that through your angry narrow minded view point.
The shooter being a teacher doesn't have anything to do with training and arming a select few teachers per school. The article doesn't say anything about her having the right to carry a gun on campus. Its just about some lady that went nuts. But I would expect you to see any of that through your angry narrow minded view point.
So we should "training and arming a select few" of the teachers before giving them guns? How about mental screenings? But you don't want us to "training and arming a select few" of the general population before letting them get guns.... I'm confused. Why would you screen the teachers but not screen the general population?
So we should "training and arming a select few" of the teachers before giving them guns? How about mental screenings? But you don't want us to "training and arming a select few" of the general population before letting them get guns.... I'm confused. Why would you screen the teachers but not screen the general population?
I have said before. I am all for tighter gun control. Mental screening, hard background checks. Yes teachers should be vetted hard. There are a lot of x military, and law enforcement people in school systems already that would probably be happy to take the responsibility.
Some people may freeze up in the heat of the moment like the security guy did in Florida. They may not either. That's a stupid argument. I would also assume that policies would be in place that only allow the use of guns in an active shooter situation. There are already schools that have armed teachers. Colorado being one place.
You mean training and arming a few select teachers...like the trained 30 year vet cop who stayed outside and did nothing? Or the others that were with him?
I think the idea of adding to a teachers already challenging position is a bad one. How will they secure the guns and have them ready and available in case of need?
These new guns in the school wont be stolen by students? How about if a student is going off or fighting and beating the hell out of another student...can the teacher shoot then too? How many well trained police officers are being investigated for using their gun with out need? Do teachers need body cams now? too many bad things could happen and very little good by arming teachers. Less guns.
It has been an impressive showing by high school kids holding rallies everywhere. I love when the mayors/governers/ senators try to pull a fast one on them and the students calmly claim..."I call BS".
They seem to be making a dent. Props.
how come nobody is talking about arming the kids? Didn't any of you have archery in PE back in the day? Why not handgun practice instead? You think a kid would come shoot up a school if all of his or her peers were packing? You think a teacher would shoot up a school if the kids all had guns? I don't think so.
You mean training and arming a few select teachers...like the trained 30 year vet cop who stayed outside and did nothing?
So do you have any inclination on why the cop may have stayed outside the building ?
I’ll reserve judgement til all the facts come out.
A few years ago protocol was to sit and take up a point of action til backup arrives . Only when you have a full team in place would you make entry. That was drilled and taught religiously. Only as of recent have active shooter plans been modified , This guy was a 54yr old school resource officer. I am guessing he’s had very little to no training regarding new policies ....Again a possibility ,,,,,,not for sure. Anyone ever been at an event like this live and heard a police radio? It’s prety much utter chaos , not to mention you are in an area with multi-jurisdictional coverage which most likely does not share a radio frequency. Details are coming out of what a political ****show the Sheriff’s Office was. As is the case most of the time with County Sheriffs being an elected political position . Has anyone heard the report or response of why this guy actually did stay outside? There were also a few other officers who appeared ton”stay put” which again leaves the likely possibility it’s a training issue . If he was in fact a coward , I’ll be the first to condem him , but there is also a very logical explanation that he was doing exactly what he was trained to do . I’ll reserve final judgment til all the facts are out
Peterson initially ran toward the 1200 building where the shooting took place, and then he "heard gunshots but believed that those gunshots were originating from outside of any of the buildings on the school campus," according to DiRuzzo.
The Broward County Sheriff's Office, or BSO, "trains its officers that in the event of outdoor gunfire one is to seek cover and assess the situation in order to communicate what one observes to other law enforcement," DiRuzzo said.
Peterson acted consistent with his training and "took up a tactical position between the 700-800 buildings corridor/corner," Peterson said. He was the first officer to advise dispatch that he heard shots fired, and he initiated a "Code Red" to lock down the campus, according to the statement.
"Radio transmissions indicated that there was a gunshot victim in the area of the football field," which served to confirm Mr. Peterson's belief "that the shooter, or shooters, were outside," according to DiRuzzo's statement.
OK, so if you think that the police officer who did not help, was ineffective because lack of training, what makes you think that a bunch of teacher will be better trained than the POLICE.
OK, so if you think that the police officer who did not help, was ineffective because lack of training, what makes you think that a bunch of teacher will be better trained than the POLICE.
I'm not blaming that cop until the dust settles and they can clearly make a case against him. The bottom line is that the cop was ineffective in this incident and maybe not due to his error. IIRC the cops were plenty ineffective in the Pulse shooting. Seems like the cops just waited outside for the shooter to run out of bullets. Once the cops feel like they are personally in danger I don't think they are going to be doing so much protecting as covering their a$$. Which is how an innocent bystander in an Orlando bar got killed while the cops apprehended a guy with an unloaded gun.
You have to have cops to maintain the rule of law. But once you are in the vicinity of a shootout all that poorly aimed lead doesn't discriminate about who it hits. About the only defense against a mass shooting is the ability to predict the future.
OK, so if you think that the police officer who did not help, was ineffective because lack of training, what makes you think that a bunch of teacher will be better trained than the POLICE.
The policeman wasn't personally involved he had a choice. If you were a trained teacher with a gun you make a decision. Do I want to die or do I defend myself. Without a gun you are a victim 100% everytime. With a gun you have a chance to protect yourself and the children. Also you will be a deterrent against the current and future attacks. This is whether you're successful or not in your own defense. The perpetrator and future perpetrators will have experienced resistance which will affect their futures. A Gun Free zone is a green light for mass shooters. A concealed carry zone is a resistance they will most likely avoid.
If a mass shooter was in your school would you feel safer knowing it was a Gun Free Zone and the Police were 20 minutes away?
Sure, if I could be sure Robert "John Wayne" T is going to be able to accurately and effectively track down and engage the shooter... problem is I don't trust most of these cowboys who are going to save the day. So far most shootings that could have been stopped by a good guy with a gun either aren't or still end with body bag count that makes it sure seem that good guy wasn't doing ****.
I would prefer to know that the average gun out in the world is in the hands of someone who has proven they're capable and competent enough handle it.
Sure, if I could be sure Robert "John Wayne" T is going to be able to accurately and effectively track down and engage the shooter... problem is I don't trust most of these cowboys who are going to save the day. So far most shootings that could have been stopped by a good guy with a gun either aren't or still end with body bag count that makes it sure seem that good guy wasn't doing ****.
I would prefer to know that the average gun out in the world is in the hands of someone who has proven they're capable and competent enough handle it.
That's Mr. Robert "John Wayne" T. Lol If you had trained ex military or police that were also teachers they would be more comfortable and familiar with weapons and how to use them. What I would propose is having 10 to 15% of your teachers that were willing , trained to defend the school and the students from a mass shooter. The teachers would have regular training drills on a tactical range to keep their skills sharp. They all would conceal carry so no students would know who these individuals were that had the guns. Signs would be posted at all entrances that this school is protected by armed trained guards that will use whatever force is necessary to prevent harm to their students. Cameras would monitor the outside of the school and doors would have locks so no one could enter during school hours. They would have to ring a bell to get permission to enter. Bullit proof glass would be on all outside doors.This would show potential mass shooters that the school wasn't a soft target. Much like having a home security system prevents most would be robbers from trying to break in. Mass shooters would look for easy targets.
.... The teachers would have regular training drills on a tactical range to keep their skills sharp. They all would conceal carry so no students would know who these individuals were that had the guns. Signs would be posted at all entrances that this school is protected by armed trained guards that will use whatever force is necessary to prevent harm to their students. Cameras would monitor the outside of the school and doors would have locks so no one could enter during school hours. They would have to ring a bell to get permission to enter. Bullit proof glass would be on all outside doors.....
Sounds nice, that school! Glad my kids are not going to school in a country where many think they need as many guns as possible to keep themselves save.
Or a student steals a gun from a teacher and uses it to shoot his ex-girlfriends new boyfriend in algebra class.
Im glad that Mr. Robert Duke Wayne has this all carefully planned out. So the teachers will conceal carry and the student wont know who is and who isnt? Do you remember high school? You are severely under estimating the students and over estimating the skills of these newly trained teachers. Veterans of police forces around the country make errors on a daily basis. What do the teacher unions think about arming their people. Im not 100% sure but my guess is this isnt in the current contract.
Or a student steals a gun from a teacher and uses it to shoot his ex-girlfriends new boyfriend in algebra class.
Im glad that Mr. Robert Duke Wayne has this all carefully planned out. So the teachers will conceal carry and the student wont know who is and who isnt? Do you remember high school? You are severely under estimating the students and over estimating the skills of these newly trained teachers. Veterans of police forces around the country make errors on a daily basis. What do the teacher unions think about arming their people. Im not 100% sure but my guess is this isnt in the current contract.
Not to mention, I am forced to carry (and pay for) a $2 million liability policy. How much is my premium going to increase if I decide to join the armed teacher's brigade?
Not to mention, I am forced to carry (and pay for) a $2 million liability policy. How much is my premium going to increase if I decide to join the armed teacher's brigade?
But you aren't tasked with the safety of 25 teenagers each class.
That's if I display my weapon or use it. They will pay all my attorneys fees 24/7 no limits and no deductible . The also have a bail bond /expert witness option I believe is 35.00 more a year. They have a multi- state option for those who travel.
Or a student steals a gun from a teacher and uses it to shoot his ex-girlfriends new boyfriend in algebra class.
Im glad that Mr. Robert Duke Wayne has this all carefully planned out. So the teachers will conceal carry and the student wont know who is and who isnt? Do you remember high school? You are severely under estimating the students and over estimating the skills of these newly trained teachers. Veterans of police forces around the country make errors on a daily basis. What do the teacher unions think about arming their people. Im not 100% sure but my guess is this isnt in the current contract.
There are currently 18 states that allow teachers to conceal carry in school. Most need School Board approval , some just need the superintendent to approve.
www.texaslawshield.com is the website. They do exclude illegal weapons. Also they don't cover you if you're caring a gun in a gun free zone by law. They spell out each gun free zone by state. I'm sure they wouldn't cover you if you were robbing a bank. That doesn't enter your average law abiding citizen who owns a guns mind.
Cops in Arizona just shot a an innocent guy apparently because they were too busy s**ting their pants to act responsibly. More proof that cops are protecting themselves first before the public. Going take some big insurance policies when armed guards start blowing away kids because they operate on the same policy as cops who shoot first ask questions later.
Cops in Arizona just shot a an innocent guy apparently because they were too busy s**ting their pants to act responsibly. More proof that cops are protecting themselves first before the public. Going take some big insurance policies when armed guards start blowing away kids because they operate on the same policy as cops who shoot first ask questions later.
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