For surfing we get a pretty good surfable wake (up to 6-8" back) with belly + left rear + 160lbs under the loveseat, lightest driver and everbody else between the loveseat and walkthrough. If I want it bigger (surfable to 10' back) I add two 500lb sacks, one in the front and another along the loveseat. I have two props, a 1234 and a 611. The 1234 is good for boarding but it's bad for the skiing and surfing wake, too much whitewash. Skiing at 28' off with golf ball size chunks of water hitting me in the nuts is not much fun. I find the smaller prop makes a cleaner surfing wake. I only run the 1234 when I have a big boat load or up at Tahoe.
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