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Old     (pimpind)      Join Date: Sep 2010       08-10-2018, 5:55 AM Reply   
They just released the info on the all new A22.

https://www.axiswake.com/boat/axis-wake-a22

New hull and top deck.

17%? bigger bow

2 piece construction now, like the T22 and A24 for 2018.

New vinyl for 2019 (2018 was already an improvement from 2017 so interested to see).

Axis branded PTM racks option

New helm seat with option for swivel. (looks like the g23 seat)

Power wedge III with Surfpipe is now all 1 option (cant get either seperatly) and provides 5% more lift in lift mode.

Larger Surf Gates

New headunit and speaker grills

Option for Rev 10s instead of icon 8s no more 410s.

batteries located in front and wind shield storage

New slider material for wake bench

Malibu hinge for ratchet flipup (Chillax cabin) seat

Flat glove box like A24 an T22

Driver foot well has sub and speaker

Mobile phone holder is "different"

Same ****ty igloo cooler

New soft deck flooring from factory

So far i think the new lines are nice and it looks a big nicer on the water than the A24 from the front.
Old     (imoore)      Join Date: Oct 2010       08-11-2018, 9:43 AM Reply   


https://www.activewake.com/blog/intr...2019-axis-a22/
Old     (theloungelife)      Join Date: Jun 2012       08-13-2018, 8:19 AM Reply   
All these new boats are getting heavy, with this one at 4500 lbs. Makes it hard to own a smaller tow vehicle. I'm also not sure on the battery storage location. What if a driver takes a wave over the nose? I know they're in their cases, but even then. All that said, I'm looking forward to hearing some non-influenced reviews as they come out. Currently loving my 2013 A22, but wishing I had power wedge.
Old     (pimpind)      Join Date: Sep 2010       08-13-2018, 8:55 AM Reply   
I just traded in my 2017 T23 for one. Will def post some video and "non" biased reviews I really wanted pw2/3 so im gonna sacrifice a bit of space. Should be fine as we live on smaller private lake.
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       08-13-2018, 9:16 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by theloungelife View Post
All these new boats are getting heavy, with this one at 4500 lbs. Makes it hard to own a smaller tow vehicle. I'm also not sure on the battery storage location. What if a driver takes a wave over the nose? I know they're in their cases, but even then. All that said, I'm looking forward to hearing some non-influenced reviews as they come out. Currently loving my 2013 A22, but wishing I had power wedge.
That and you need to offset the prop with a little weight, so I would be interested to see how that goes as well.
Old     (scottb7)      Join Date: Oct 2012       08-13-2018, 12:51 PM Reply   
Just a little bow rise, huh? That's embarrassing. Check out the video at 5:28ish.
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Old     (pimpind)      Join Date: Sep 2010       08-13-2018, 12:56 PM Reply   
def gonna have bow rise with power wedge from my experience. A24 is pretty bad, but i think the low down drone angles make it look worse.

TO THE MOON:

Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       08-13-2018, 6:11 PM Reply   
Are there boats that don't have bow rise while surfing? Is that even possible? I don't surf at all, so it's a serious question.
Old     (scottb7)      Join Date: Oct 2012       08-14-2018, 6:47 AM Reply   
I think it varies...but here is a centurion...Centurion Boats Fi25 - 2019 Wake Boat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT8NnOdo-8E
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Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       08-14-2018, 8:43 AM Reply   
I doubt that it's as bad as it seems
Old     (Cole)      Join Date: Sep 2017       08-14-2018, 8:53 AM Reply   
That centurion pic is legit! too bad I would have to sell my house to get one...
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       08-14-2018, 8:53 AM Reply   
its def not, its all about the angles...

Though when auto wedge kicks in you do get some bow rise but it lasts all of 5 seconds
Old     (dakota4ce)      Join Date: Oct 2015       08-14-2018, 11:11 AM Reply   
Some boats for sure ride higher than others. Varies between 8-12 degrees.
Old     (pimpind)      Join Date: Sep 2010       08-15-2018, 8:54 AM Reply   
think about it....

wedge is pulling the back down and gen2 tab style systems are essentially pushing the back up / nose down ....

so yea bu's typically have more bow ride when surfing... doesnt bother me.
Old     (dakota4ce)      Join Date: Oct 2015       08-15-2018, 11:51 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by pimpind View Post
think about it....

wedge is pulling the back down and gen2 tab style systems are essentially pushing the back up / nose down ....

so yea bu's typically have more bow ride when surfing... doesnt bother me.


We run a 750 bow sac in the 2017 23LSV Bu we surf, brings it down to reasonable levels and improves the wave substantially.

It just doesnít have enough factory bow weight.
Old     (pimpind)      Join Date: Sep 2010       08-16-2018, 11:30 AM Reply   
yea, in the T23 we run stock pnp + 30x 50lbs leadwake bags and 10 of them go under the bag in the nose
works well
Old     (smuurph84)      Join Date: Oct 2008       08-17-2018, 3:53 AM Reply   
U got a pick of the t23 wave?
Old     (pimpind)      Join Date: Sep 2010       08-20-2018, 7:09 AM Reply   
Im not sure if we had all the lead in this day. We have been using the lead in the A24 more.

Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       08-21-2018, 3:54 PM Reply   
The only real gripe I have is the tower. Just needs an update. The old tower was better to me.
Old     (steveotx)      Join Date: Feb 2008       09-21-2018, 9:55 AM Reply   
The 2019 A22 is really sharp. Without the low profile trailer and mostly loaded, what kinda price should a buyer expect??
Old     (granddaddy53)      Join Date: Dec 2013       09-26-2018, 10:52 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by DatTexasBoy View Post
The only real gripe I have is the tower. Just needs an update. The old tower was better to me.
I agree about the look but the old one even with knobs is a total pain in the arse to put up, down no fun but doable by your self but itís getying real old now for the 190th? Time
Old     (theloungelife)      Join Date: Jun 2012       10-10-2018, 3:23 PM Reply   
Anyone ride one yet?
Old     (83Starsnstripes)      Join Date: Jul 2013       10-11-2018, 1:36 PM Reply   
Yup. I have about 60 hours on mine. Love it! I've had the previous A22 and T22, this new A22 has a better surf and wakeboard wake. Still bow high, like discussed above but you really can't get around that in an Axis.
Old     (theloungelife)      Join Date: Jun 2012       10-11-2018, 2:27 PM Reply   
Great to hear! How are you digging the power wedge 3?
Old     (83Starsnstripes)      Join Date: Jul 2013       10-15-2018, 11:39 AM Reply   
^^Love the new Power Wedge III. More lift and usable settings. Power Wedge II was great but "Wedge 1" really didn't make any difference. They've dialed it in a bit better.
Old     (hunter991)      Join Date: Jul 2016       10-16-2018, 6:36 AM Reply   
Wonder if they will improve the build quality in 2019.. I sure hope so.
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       10-16-2018, 8:56 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter991 View Post
Wonder if they will improve the build quality in 2019.. I sure hope so.
I'll bite......

What don't you like about the way the boats are built?
Old     (scottb7)      Join Date: Oct 2012       10-16-2018, 6:04 PM Reply   
me thinks build quality is fine. fit and finish are fine. materials and style you get what you pay for...
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       10-17-2018, 8:54 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by 83Starsnstripes View Post
Yup. I have about 60 hours on mine. Love it! I've had the previous A22 and T22, this new A22 has a better surf and wakeboard wake. Still bow high, like discussed above but you really can't get around that in an Axis.
What do you feel is different in the wakeboard wake?
Old     (83Starsnstripes)      Join Date: Jul 2013       10-17-2018, 12:36 PM Reply   
^^You can just get the wake bigger now. I don't run extra weight but you really could if you want because of the PowerWedge III.
Old     (hunter991)      Join Date: Jul 2016       10-17-2018, 12:53 PM Reply   
I looked at few 2018's and the build quality was terrible. Fiberglass strings hanging all over the place under the seats, windshields not closing *1/4" off on top and bottom. Really turned me off. I know the dealer should make sure they are ready to show, but this showed me just how these are put together. No doubt the boat will probably perform, but for $80k, i expected a little bit more attention to detail and will NOT accept shoddy craftsmanship for that price.
Old     (stevo8290)      Join Date: Sep 2008       10-18-2018, 8:50 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter991 View Post
I looked at few 2018's and the build quality was terrible. Fiberglass strings hanging all over the place under the seats, windshields not closing *1/4" off on top and bottom. Really turned me off. I know the dealer should make sure they are ready to show, but this showed me just how these are put together. No doubt the boat will probably perform, but for $80k, i expected a little bit more attention to detail and will NOT accept shoddy craftsmanship for that price.
Not sure what you saw but my experience has been different. I own 18 so I'm biased.But I can tell you that these boats are geared toward the rider first and foremost. Wake wise, they will be on par or surpass anything on the market I can assure you that. I have put 70 hours on mine since august loaded down, rain or shine, smashing dubs and the quality is fine.

You can get a more luxury interior feel from other brands for the same amount of money for sure though if that's what you're after.
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       10-18-2018, 10:37 AM Reply   
I owned a 15 and a 16. They were both great. A few minor issues but every builder has a few issues here and there.
Old     (hunter991)      Join Date: Jul 2016       10-18-2018, 11:47 AM Reply   
Wasn't that at all. I wish i would have taken pictures. I thought Axis was the exact boat i wanted. I think they look amazing and perform well for boarding and surfing. But as i mentioned, i looked at them all. Not a single other brand had fiberglass string that looked like hair hanging inside the storage areas.. fiberglass shavings as well. As i mentioned the windshield didn't line up and it was certainly an area that would develop some movement. The dash wasn't pretty either. It truly looked like a 3rd grade art project. This was an A20, 2 of them in fact... they wanted 78k plus tax. Sorry, but that kind of attention to detail is important to me. i am not willing to overlook at that. If this kind of thing is overlooked i could only imagine the rest of the boat.

maybe the boat is fine, but 78k+tax is alot of cash. I mentioned i looked at the Axis competitors and not a single one had anything like this..

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