Another school shooting

The war on the second amendment will ultimately negatively effect minorities more than anyone else too. Bet.

Anyone who cares to check on their free time. Get an IP blocker, download TOR, make an account at any dark net market (reddit has full on tutorials) & see for yourself just how flipping easy it is to get fire arms. Grenades & C4 not so much anymore, but pistols & rifles all day long. You think your USPS is catching this stuff? Do you know how many drugs are mailed daily? How easy it is, the stealth the sellers use, the fact that billions of packages move everyday & it's damn near impossible to catch even 99% of the illegal sales.

And Time is exactly right, we could get weed, coke & meth quicker than we could booze. They still sold minors cigarettes back then when we'd say "our mom wants a pack of camels".

For some reason lefties are just fine with mass stabbings, vehicle attacks, clobbering people to death but those pesky fire arms. You know why we don't suffer like the people in the UK do? Cause there's a fair assumption when thinking about attacking someone they may be armed here. In the UK they know damn well they aren't so it's open season.

Shooting people in the face is already illegal. Why can't we own guns and obey the laws in place.

Speeding is illegal, how about we make cars that are capable of speeding also illegal.

Cats out of the bottle man. Pandora doesn't go back into the box.

Originally Posted by TimesNewRoman

Shooting people in the face is already illegal. Why can't we own guns and obey the laws in place.

Speeding is illegal, how about we make cars that are capable of speeding also illegal.

Cats out of the bottle man. Pandora doesn't go back into the box.

Australia put the cat back in the bottle and we can too.

Originally Posted by plhorn

Australia put the cat back in the bottle and we can too.

Australia also CONFISCATED 650,000 firearms. Not happening here.

Actually, they bought back that many weapons. and why not happening here? Apart from the crazed rednecks cold dead hands thing?
Make it illegal to not hand in your guns and the crazy red necks can bury their guns in the back yard. Fine. As soon as they step out of line there is one more thing we can arrest them for.

Originally Posted by plhorn

Actually, they bought back that many weapons. and why not happening here? Apart from the crazed rednecks cold dead hands thing?
Make it illegal to not hand in your guns and the crazy red necks can bury their guns in the back yard. Fine. As soon as they step out of line there is one more thing we can arrest them for.

Haha!! oh man, just have to laugh at some of the **** you come up with.

....the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Like chinese food?

Originally Posted by plhorn

Actually, they bought back that many weapons. and why not happening here? Apart from the crazed rednecks cold dead hands thing?
Make it illegal to not hand in your guns and the crazy red necks can bury their guns in the back yard. Fine. As soon as they step out of line there is one more thing we can arrest them for.

How do you explain the amount of shootings/deaths in Chicago when they have some of the most strict gun laws in America?

I'm a law abiding citizen with a concealed carry license in the State of Louisiana, why should I lose my gun rights because the criminals don't know how to act?

At what point do we place blame on the person pulling the trigger, a gun doesn't fire on its own.

More people are killed in automobile accidents every year yet your not on WakeWorld trying to ban automobiles. There are certain people that should not be allowed to own guns, but unfortunately, if you block certain people from owning a gun, then its considered discriminatory.

Your Collective Rights Theory has been stricken down twice in the supreme court.

So NZ has just had its first terrorist mass shooting, 30 or 40 dead. Surreal and sad.

Originally Posted by ralph

So NZ has just had its first terrorist mass shooting, 30 or 40 dead. Surreal and sad.

Hmm... Time to pass some new gun laws and make everyone FEEL safer... Nothing like a new gun law to make you FEEL better and THINK you just disarmed all criminals right? Yeah, just write some rules on paper and all criminals will somehow be put on notice that they have to disarm themselves. I'm sure there will be a line forming soon.....

No, I think the gun laws here are pretty reasonable. We could do more on the mental health front for sure

Originally Posted by ralph

No, I think the gun laws here are pretty reasonable. We could do more on the mental health front for sure

That is really the issue. Unfortunately people think drugs do not alter minds but they do as well. Many times people use drugs to fix their mental issues and so on.

Is there a sense in the country that the muslim population is getting out of control relative to the other populations? Was this a popping off of a lingering political divide? Sounds like the shooter had help to get away?

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Is there a sense in the country that the muslim population is getting out of control relative to the other populations? Was this a popping off of a lingering political divide? Sounds like the shooter had help to get away?

No, at least not in the circles I travel in, the only immigration tention you hear is about Asians buying up in the property market and pushing up the prices. We literally have zero anti-muslim sentiment, the population is low and they have the reputation of being well integrated good people.

The unconfirmed story is this guy is an Ausy who came over here for training and was intending to go back to do his attack there but decided here was a softer target and thought an attack in NZ had more wow factor because if muslims aren't safe in NZ they aren't safe anywhere. We have a pocket of neo NAZI skin heads in Christchurch so it could be true. If so all those ****ers who assisted him are about to go to prison for a long time.

Yeah your guns laws really worked. 47 dead. why don't you guys hurry up & pass some gun laws, show us yanks how it's done....

Originally Posted by wombat2wombat

Yeah your guns laws really worked. 47 dead. why don't you guys hurry up & pass some gun laws, show us yanks how it's done....

Yeah, because lack of gun laws here in the US prevents mass shootings...

^^^^^^well said, Matt.

In one of my training classes the instructor said "The legendary kindness of the Southern Gentlemen was largely due to everyone carrying a gun".

"He said none of the weapons were military style semi-automatic weapons. Calling for gun laws to be tightened, New Zealand’s prime minister Jacinda Ardern has said the attacker used five guns, two of them semi-automatic, which were purchased with an ordinary gun license and modified.

Ardern said the gunman had two semiautomatic weapons, two shotguns, and one lever-action firearm. She vowed to enact stricter gun-control laws in the wake of the shooting. "

Didn't even use an assault weapon, none of the weapons he obtained legally in NZ were used in the attack. Mindless over reaction by lefties as usual.

120 Christians slaughtered over the weekend in Nigeria. But lefties ignore cause they're Christian & machetes were used so it's all good.

A hard code liberal, a trans-gender & a pistol walk into a school.....

Amazing how little coverage the school shooting in Colorado is getting. Doesn't fit the narrative, two liberals, a pistol & only one dead Hispanic kid. Proving lefty jackasses don't give a sh*t about dead kids if they can't score political points.

Originally Posted by wombat2wombat

Amazing how little coverage the school shooting in Colorado is getting. Doesn't fit the narrative, two liberals, a pistol & only one dead Hispanic kid. Proving lefty jackasses don't give a sh*t about dead kids if they can't score political points.

Could also just be a general level of ambivalence. If sandy hook or stoneman-douglas didn't change anything, the loss of one kid is just a blip (sadly).

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

Could also just be a general level of ambivalence. If sandy hook or stoneman-douglas didn't change anything, the loss of one kid is just a blip (sadly).

As much as I would love to see through your rose colored glasses it's blaringly obvious what gets attention & what doesn't get attention & it's always narrative driven.

Originally Posted by wombat2wombat

As much as I would love to see through your rose colored glasses it's blaringly obvious what gets attention & what doesn't get attention & it's always narrative driven.

I'm agreeing with you. The narrative is more compelling with more bodies.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

I'm agreeing with you. The narrative is more compelling with more bodies.

Good, then you agree. Liberals love dead kids if it furthers their agenda

https://i.redd.it/9z7v2mycq8x21.jpg

This shooting should have everyone worked up & not over guns. This school was covering up that the trans girl was sexually assaulted, they tried to hide it, swept it under the rug. These two kids were brutally bullied, not everyday bullying, just plain mean & treated both of these kids like dirt. Parents coming forward to talk about how bad this school is, what goes on. Why does the media not address this? Where is the LGBT crowd? They should be all over this! This is one ****ed up story & that too is being swept aside.

Wombat I'm seeing the Conservative Media pointing out what your talking about , Because the shooter was not a MAGA wearing hat white male And the story does not meet the Media Narrative it gets no attention. I have to agree, My question, Where is David Hogg! And his outrage. Where is the protests and Marches? O wait The Shooter was a Obama Supporting Transgender! & they are not to be critical of these "Protected Status" people. I hate to sound like a Tin Foil hat person but, in my opinion the Conservative Media is right. How come this shooting is getting no Media attention. It does seem strange

This one says he/she was the bully?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...chool-n1004181

I thought that the 16 yr old was the he/she, not the 18 yr old shooter. Yeah, looks are deceiving but thats the dude.

There were several stories on the local news with a group of parents who came forward but refused to be named as the school has a history of taking it out on the kids when parents try to take action. The horrible bullying of the he/she has been going on for years but it seems the last two years she got mouthy & starting fighting back.

Two more mass shootings and not even a comment, must be status quo now.

No gun problem here folks... nothing to see here.

Originally Posted by onlyinboards

No gun problem here folks... nothing to see here.

Still more people killed each year with a hammer than a rifle. Don't hear people like you in the streets asking for hammer control

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Still more people killed each year with a hammer than a rifle. Don't hear people like you in the streets asking for hammer control

Yeah, as soon as a guy marches into a Walmart on a Saturday afternoon and kills over 20 people in just a few minutes, with an effing hammer, maybe people will start asking for "hammer control". Do you really have to be so dense?

Originally Posted by wake77

Yeah, as soon as a guy marches into a Walmart on a Saturday afternoon and kills over 20 people in just a few minutes, with an effing hammer, maybe people will start asking for "hammer control". Do you really have to be so dense?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/...-without-guns/

Maybe you should have vehicle control.

Originally Posted by wake77

Yeah, as soon as a guy marches into a Walmart on a Saturday afternoon and kills over 20 people in just a few minutes, with an effing hammer, maybe people will start asking for "hammer control". Do you really have to be so dense?

Why don't you ask for this everytime you democrats shoot up a city. How many holidays in a row has 50 plus people been shot in Chicago, year, after year, after year. Plus the 100 a year murdered in Oakland and about every other big democrat gun free city.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Still more people killed each year with a hammer than a rifle. Don't hear people like you in the streets asking for hammer control

Gas-lighting much? 11,000 homicides each year in the US, 73% of those USE GUNS!
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081
America is the greatest country in the World because NO One is above the law! Why should a punk kid who gets kicked out of school be allowed to buy a firearm? What is wrong with black listing aggressive juveniles until they reach the age of 25? I know the NRA would be against this and you are taking away aggressive kids 1st amendment rights, but it is for the good of society as a whole.

Originally Posted by joeshmoe

Gas-lighting much? 11,000 homicides each year in the US, 73% of those USE GUNS!
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081
America is the greatest country in the World because NO One is above the law! Why should a punk kid who gets kicked out of school be allowed to buy a firearm? What is wrong with black listing aggressive juveniles until they reach the age of 25? I know the NRA would be against this and you are taking away aggressive kids 1st amendment rights, but it is for the good of society as a whole.

What is gas lighting is your odd use of "facts". You are not even following the "facts" of your article. Funny how the article says california bans "assult rifles". first there is no such thing. Second, california does not ban them. They ban certain features and' or make you register rifles without those features differently. Funny thing is that you nor they understand what is actually the legal registered portion of these so called "assault weapons".

Good question on black listing. What if I don't agree with the words you say. Can I get you blacklisted from using the internet or attending college where you may have to write a paper for a number of years?

How about this. How about we ban all kids with bad grades, alcohol or week usage as a minor, speeding ticket or other unacceptable social behavior until 25 or beyond from driving:



as you can see vehicle deaths are still higher than ALL GUN Deaths. Considering (according to your article) 22,000 of the 30,000 gun deaths are actually suicide, the murder rate is very low and especially low compared to vehicle deaths.

Knock out the top 5 to 10 democrat cities, we have a murder rate less than most of those pointed to liberal European countries even with all our guns and theirs outlawed.

while this is an emotional topic, your use of logic is displaced. Did you go on an online screed when that kid mowed down and killed the 9 motorcyclists less than a month ago or didn't the democrats put out the memo on the TeeVee to tell you to go to work on guns?

Originally Posted by onlyinboards

No gun problem here folks... nothing to see here.

How can we (a country built on the premise of firearms ownership) be surprised by a graph that calls out that we have more guns than other countries listed?

Obvious graph is obvious

Originally Posted by Matt0520

How can we (a country built on the premise of firearms ownership) be surprised by a graph that calls out that we have more guns than other countries listed?

Obvious graph is obvious

Ironic thing is every country on the graph has been invaded by war in modern times.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Ironic thing is every country on the graph has been invaded by war in modern times.

Only a dumbass, such as yourself, would think that private arms ownership has anything to do with that. And I hope you are counting the US as being "invaded by war".

cue the democrats and their bull****

Liberals, can't stop jacking off to dead kids.

The shooters manifesto is out, like the Mueller report the whacky left won't read it because it shatters the narrative they've spun on this. The guy rails against corporations taking over politics, the environment , loss of jobs due to automation, lack of universal income, healthcare. Illegals we so very low on his list of complaints. The dumbocrats have devolved into a disgusting group just fine with mass death & spinning these things to fit a narrative all for political gain. And the sheep sit at home rubbing themselves waiting for their mainstream media to tell what to be upset about. And the proof right here that applies to the lefty lunatics; not one mention of Daytona, you sick imbeciles. Chickens do come home to roost

Originally Posted by wombat2wombat

The shooters manifesto is out, like the Mueller report the whacky left won't read it because it shatters the narrative they've spun on this. The guy rails against corporations taking over politics, the environment , loss of jobs due to automation, lack of universal income, healthcare. Illegals we so very low on his list of complaints. The dumbocrats have devolved into a disgusting group just fine with mass death & spinning these things to fit a narrative all for political gain. And the sheep sit at home rubbing themselves waiting for their mainstream media to tell what to be upset about. And the proof right here that applies to the lefty lunatics; not one mention of Daytona, you sick imbeciles. Chickens do come home to roost

Say it ain't so.......

Not one mention about the Mexican that killed 4 Mexicans with a knife in Cali. Media didn't tell you guys what to be upset about. Doesn't fit the narrative. He was just angry. White shooters are all white supremacists & it's Trumps fault. Sick f**ks

Why aren't our local liberals posting up on this today. These adds for this movie were going to be on ESPN this week until the shootings:

"The Hunt" Movie Trailer Features Elites Hunting "Deplorables" For Sport

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...for_sport.html


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"The Hunt" Movie Trailer Features Elites Hunting "Deplorables" For Sport
Posted By Tim Hains
On Date August 8, 2019

“The Hunt” is billed as a dark satire about a group of privileged vacationers hunting "deplorables" for sport and is set to open September 27. Certain ads for the R-rated film from producer Jason Blumhouse and Universal Studios have been pulled off the air this week following the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton but the trailer remains online.


https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...ie-deplorables

“The violent, R-rated film from producer Jason Blum's Blumhouse follows a dozen MAGA types who wake up in a clearing and realize they are being stalked for sport by elite liberals,” THR’s Kim Masters wrote. “It features guns blazing along with other ultra-violent killings as the elites pick off their prey.”

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Why aren't our local liberals posting up on this today. These adds for this movie were going to be on ESPN this week until the shootings:

"The Hunt" Movie Trailer Features Elites Hunting "Deplorables" For Sport

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...for_sport.html


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"The Hunt" Movie Trailer Features Elites Hunting "Deplorables" For Sport
Posted By Tim Hains
On Date August 8, 2019

“The Hunt” is billed as a dark satire about a group of privileged vacationers hunting "deplorables" for sport and is set to open September 27. Certain ads for the R-rated film from producer Jason Blumhouse and Universal Studios have been pulled off the air this week following the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton but the trailer remains online.


https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...ie-deplorables

“The violent, R-rated film from producer Jason Blum's Blumhouse follows a dozen MAGA types who wake up in a clearing and realize they are being stalked for sport by elite liberals,” THR’s Kim Masters wrote. “It features guns blazing along with other ultra-violent killings as the elites pick off their prey.”

LOL I heard the fox crybabies complaining about this on Laura Ingraham last night.

How come you aren't complaining that it's just a remake of a 1994 film of similar premise? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surviving_the_Game

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

LOL I heard the fox crybabies complaining about this on Laura Ingraham last night.

How come you aren't complaining that it's just a remake of a 1994 film of similar premise? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surviving_the_Game

You playing whataboutism is comical being you constantly try to hang your hat on that. Then you revert back to 1994? Please, enlighten us about the rampant violence, racist accusations or anything close to todays current climate? Typical liberal. Not one ounce of condemnation, you comically & ignorantly find a film from 1994. It's all Trumps fault though!!! No reason for you asshats too take a good long look at yourselves & what you support.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

LOL I heard the fox crybabies complaining about this on Laura Ingraham last night.

How come you aren't complaining that it's just a remake of a 1994 film of similar premise? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surviving_the_Game

That still cracks me up. You guys always complaining about me and other conservatives watching Fox when it is you guys that seem to constantly watch fox. I don't watch that stuff.

Again, there is a buzz word "premise" trying to detract from the message. I am pretty darn sure that in 1994 they were not talking hunting down and murdering a group that were a specific political party that were directly defined as an obscure term like "deporables" by a democrat presidential candidate who also served in one of the highest political offices of the US Government. Of course we know who the "deplorables" are. We also know that a democrat shot up the Republicans of congress. Antifa has a group that was/ is scheduled to go to Texas in September to combat train other members. They were schedule prior to the shooting. Yep. Nothing dangerous about that.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

That still cracks me up. You guys always complaining about me and other conservatives watching Fox when it is you guys that seem to constantly watch fox. I don't watch that stuff.

Again, there is a buzz word "premise" trying to detract from the message. I am pretty darn sure that in 1994 they were not talking hunting down and murdering a group that were a specific political party that were directly defined as an obscure term like "deporables" by a democrat presidential candidate who also served in one of the highest political offices of the US Government. Of course we know who the "deplorables" are. We also know that a democrat shot up the Republicans of congress. Antifa has a group that was/ is scheduled to go to Texas in September to combat train other members. They were schedule prior to the shooting. Yep. Nothing dangerous about that.

Since their media doesn't tell them about it's not real. More white liberal "if it's not in my backyard".

Originally Posted by wombat2wombat

Since their media doesn't tell them about it's not real. More white liberal "if it's not in my backyard".

Yep.... the TEEVEE controls the outrage.

I guess on MSNBC/ NBC that were saying Trump is planning genocide against Hispanics and that Trump picked August 8 for flags to fly at half mast because August 8 is 8 8, "H" being the 8th letter in the alphabet so August 8 stands for HH which stands for Heil Hitler.

The left is really feeling boxed in if they are resorting to this type of reporting. They know if Trump stamps out illegals in the country, backs down China, NAFTA, and stacks in conservative judges then their dream on destroying the US sovreignty will be greatly harmed.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

That still cracks me up. You guys always complaining about me and other conservatives watching Fox when it is you guys that seem to constantly watch fox. I don't watch that stuff.

And yet curiously you are apparently worried about what ads ESPN runs. Strange coincidence? Seems like you should be in the talking head business Delta.

No the ‘94 version was about hunting down a homeless black guy. So you are right... no possible identity politics at play there at all as opposed to random white folks in MAGA gear.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

And yet curiously you are apparently worried about what ads ESPN runs. Strange coincidence? Seems like you should be in the talking head business Delta.

No the ‘94 version was about hunting down a homeless black guy. So you are right... no possible identity politics at play there at all as opposed to random white folks in MAGA gear.

Kind of funny how white people can be random (even though they are in Maga gear which makes them a very specific group) but a black person could not possibly be random. And you do see how you leftist see color in everything?

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

No the ‘94 version was about hunting down a homeless black guy. So you are right... no possible identity politics at play there at all as opposed to random white folks in MAGA gear.

IE "I'm just fine with this movie because..."

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Why aren't our local liberals posting up on this today. These adds for this movie were going to be on ESPN this week until the shootings:

"The Hunt" Movie Trailer Features Elites Hunting "Deplorables" For Sport

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...for_sport.html


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"The Hunt" Movie Trailer Features Elites Hunting "Deplorables" For Sport
Posted By Tim Hains
On Date August 8, 2019

“The Hunt” is billed as a dark satire about a group of privileged vacationers hunting "deplorables" for sport and is set to open September 27. Certain ads for the R-rated film from producer Jason Blumhouse and Universal Studios have been pulled off the air this week following the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton but the trailer remains online.


https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...ie-deplorables

“The violent, R-rated film from producer Jason Blum's Blumhouse follows a dozen MAGA types who wake up in a clearing and realize they are being stalked for sport by elite liberals,” THR’s Kim Masters wrote. “It features guns blazing along with other ultra-violent killings as the elites pick off their prey.”

That film has it all backwards.

Originally Posted by psudy

That film has it all backwards.

That is why it is a fictional tale.

Watching CBS last night. How funny it was to see how openly Bias they are towered TRUMP. Example
2 shootings 1. ElPaso TX 2. Dayton Ohio.

All CBS could report on was how the ElPaso TX shooter was empowered but TRUMP’s “Invasion” words, saying that the El Paso shooter used the “INVASION” in some of his rants well I guess that’s all it took to link the El Paso shooter to Trump. Ok Fast forward to the 2nd Shooter Dayton Ohio. The Guy was a avid Warren & Bernie Supporter & Avid leftist. BUT NOT A SINGLE MENTION OF HIS POLITICAL affiliation !

Talk about feeding people what they want them to feel. No such thing as fair and balanced. F the Media. They have their Candidates picked out. And they make it obvious who they don’t want in the WH

Originally Posted by grant_west

Watching CBS last night. How funny it was to see how openly Bias they are towered TRUMP. Example
2 shootings 1. ElPaso TX 2. Dayton Ohio.

All CBS could report on was how the ElPaso TX shooter was empowered but TRUMP’s “Invasion” words, saying that the El Paso shooter used the “INVASION” in some of his rants well I guess that’s all it took to link the El Paso shooter to Trump. Ok Fast forward to the 2nd Shooter Dayton Ohio. The Guy was a avid Warren & Bernie Supporter & Avid leftist. BUT NOT A SINGLE MENTION OF HIS POLITICAL affiliation !

Talk about feeding people what they want them to feel. No such thing as fair and balanced. F the Media. They have their Candidates picked out. And they make it obvious who they don’t want in the WH

The left has shown its hand, they're nothing but a bunch of sick f**ks and everything is okay till they're upset about it. I look forward to watching the rich white suburbs cry like bitches when this all blows up in their faces & they're forced to eat what they created.

Both are sick and last I checked political parties had not exactly set out hunting black people. Well, the democrats used to, but no others. Now the democrats are into hunting down Republicans. You know what would be perfect twist. Hunt down black Republicans that left the plantation. That would just be icing on the cake for the democrats.

The reason that I mentioned ESPN is that is a pretty significant audience of teen to 30 year olds to target with this type of move. It is more important considering you liberals are out there blaming Trump for racial and political violence (that you as a group mostly commit) while putting out films targeting Republicans for violence. Normally I don't care about these films but it is pretty ironic considering the climate today to put out a film like this and have major major networks pick this type of movie up for advertisement. Heck they just shot up congress a little over a year ago. You tell me how this would play out. It is just part of the greater message that the left is trying to send. Republicans are planing genocide against you so here is what it looks like to do it to them.

Good lord man, if it has Channing Tatum in it isn't a movie

A guy with a gun stopped a mass shooting at Walmart, another soft target. Way more effective than anything the lunatic left has put forth. So lets bury the story lease the sheep change their minds on giving up their control to the Gov whos ran by "literally Hitler".

I think the point is when you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have them. Those big, libtard cities can pass any law they want and it isn't gonna fix or change anything except to make things harder on law abiding citizens. Criminals don't give a wake77 about obeying any laws.

Originally Posted by markj

I think the point is when you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have them. Those big, libtard cities can pass any law they want and it isn't gonna fix or change anything except to make things harder on law abiding citizens. Criminals don't give a wake77 about obeying any laws.

exactly.


Why do the gun grabbers try to use suicide as argument for gun control? If people want to kill themselves, they will. If people want to kill many people, they will. We've seen mass murder from trucks, we saw a guy in China kill 33 with a sword, we just saw a Mexican kill other Mexicans which doesn't fit the narrative so it's not highly reported. We just saw a mass shooting in Dayton that doesn't fit the narrative so it's not getting the attention. Those are the facts that prove you don't give AF about guns, you care about trying to control a portion of the population you don't agree with under the guise of making others safer or these things would be reported equally. But they're not & it's exactly why the right is going to fight this tooth & nail & just like in New Zeland, no body is going to turn in their guns but they'll create a bigger black market for them. How did prohibition work out? Libs love to argue it did nothing & people still got their booze.

Not one iota of crap the left has put forward has stopped a mass shooting. The ONLY thing that has is another person with a gun or the guy whos weapon jammed & then he got jumped.

Originally Posted by markj

I think the point is when you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have them. Those big, libtard cities can pass any law they want and it isn't gonna fix or change anything except to make things harder on law abiding citizens. Criminals don't give a wake77 about obeying any laws.

Who is saying "outlaw guns"? Why do you dumbasses act as thought there can be no middle ground? Sensible gun regulations is not seize all guns from citizens.

Why have any laws at all?

Originally Posted by wake77

Who is saying "outlaw guns"? Why do you dumbasses act as thought there can be no middle ground? Sensible gun regulations is not seize all guns from citizens.

Why have any laws at all?

We already have a middle ground. Outlawing weapons based on the way they look is stupid as stupid can be.

Machine guns are already heavily regulated. What more do you need? You are not changing anything else. This is a human issue.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

We already have a middle ground. Outlawing weapons based on the way they look is stupid as stupid can be.

Machine guns are already heavily regulated. What more do you need? You are not changing anything else. This is a human issue.

It most certainly is not "a human issue". It's a number issues. We have more private gun ownership than any other country on this planet. It shouldn't be a surprise that we have the most gun crimes. It's why we have become immune when a toddler finds his "responsible gun owner" dad's pistol lying around and blows his or his siblings head off.

Originally Posted by wake77

It most certainly is not "a human issue". It's a number issues. We have more private gun ownership than any other country on this planet. It shouldn't be a surprise that we have the most gun crimes. It's why we have become immune when a toddler finds his "responsible gun owner" dad's pistol lying around and blows his or his siblings head off.

While a tragic event, it is statistically not relevant. Why was crime going down while gun ownership was going up for the last couple decades if access to guns is the issue? We also have less assaults or serious assaults than other countries. unless I am missing something we are not even top 100.

We are 15th in home invasions and get this, we have been trending down since 2005 while gun ownership has been trending up.

14th in rape and we have been trending down since 2005 as well. You know what the gun ownershp has done in that time.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-countys-says/

Most homicides in U.S. occurred in 5 percent of counties, says study

Originally Posted by wake77

It most certainly is not "a human issue". It's a number issues. We have more private gun ownership than any other country on this planet. It shouldn't be a surprise that we have the most gun crimes. It's why we have become immune when a toddler finds his "responsible gun owner" dad's pistol lying around and blows his or his siblings head off.

How is it not a human issue? We’ve had widespread civilian gun ownership for centuries. And only recently are mass shootings (thy are not gang/crime-related) an issue.

Thompson machine guns used to be for sale at hardware stores. Didn’t hear about a bunch of deranged 20-30 year old white dudes back then shooting kids at schools. Only reason the NFA was enacted was because of mob violence during prohibition.

how about the Missouri kid walking thru walmart in full tacticool gear, gun slung around his neck and 100 rnds of ammo?? lucky to survive that level of stupidity

Originally Posted by denverd1

how about the Missouri kid walking thru walmart in full tacticool gear, gun slung around his neck and 100 rnds of ammo?? lucky to survive that level of stupidity

It was probably Mark's butt buddy. Guys like them think that kind of stuff makes their two inch peckers grow. But ask Mark's wife, she'll tell you it's not true.

^From Portland no less.

How's those back ground checks trump was talking about coming along?

Originally Posted by ralph

How's those back ground checks trump was talking about coming along?

His daddy at the NRA said it was a no-go. A man that proclaims he is worth billions is worried about a few mil in contributions from the NRA. So much for "draining the swamp". Trump is a whore to the lobbyists just like all of the other politicians in DC.

Originally Posted by ralph

How's those back ground checks trump was talking about coming along?

Did back ground checks stop any of the crimes that were committed? Asking for a friend. Turns out my friend is interested in emotional positions of pre-adolescent school girls.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Did back ground checks stop any of the crimes that were committed? Asking for a friend. Turns out my friend is interested in emotional positions of pre-adolescent school girls.

Once again totally missing the point, the point isn't that back ground checks work, the point is trump said he was going to add them then two weeks later says you already have them.

Originally Posted by ralph

Once again totally missing the point, the point isn't that back ground checks work, the point is trump said he was going to add them then two weeks later says you already have them.

We do have them. So what is the point? The gun show loop hole was always a lie.

You really should actually learn our laws instead of believing the bullcrap written by people who never actually tried to exercise the laws they write about. You do realize that the articles you tend to read about guns are written by people who are scared of guns and never owned one yet they write about the process like they actually know what they process is.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

We do have them. So what is the point? The gun show loop hole was always a lie.

You really should actually learn our laws instead of believing the bullcrap written by people who never actually tried to exercise the laws they write about. You do realize that the articles you tend to read about guns are written by people who are scared of guns and never owned one yet they write about the process like they actually know what they process is.

Why do you keep avoiding the question and changing the subject?

Again, before Trump spoke to the master at the NRA, he was proclaiming he was for more involved background checks, then it was no. Why did he say it (along with plenty of GOP senators) and then back down? Just start by answering that question.

Originally Posted by ralph

Once again totally missing the point, the point isn't that back ground checks work, the point is trump said he was going to add them then two weeks later says you already have them.

Triggered!!!!