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Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       08-20-2015, 2:16 PM Reply   
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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-20-2015, 4:32 PM Reply   
Great headline!
What is it about human nature that once a person gets into a position of privilege they start taking the piss and doing shady sex stuff? Sad.
Old     (timmyb)      Join Date: Apr 2007       08-20-2015, 5:00 PM Reply   
Is that real?!?!? HAHAHA! Dayum, that's awesome!
Old    bigdtx            08-20-2015, 8:09 PM Reply   
Eff this POS. I hope this scumbag gets used, abused, and thrown away in prison.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-20-2015, 9:38 PM Reply   
I think that is a bit harsh. To look at girls this way you have to have something wrong with you, I don't think it is a choice a "normal" person can make.
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       08-21-2015, 11:59 AM Reply   
Harsh? He will learn harsh in prison. I think he should get the death penalty.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       08-21-2015, 12:46 PM Reply   
I think Darren was referring to the Headline as Harsh. In fact the #in the story said somthing about Media Backlash from harsh headline @ new york post.

and on a Side note. Many interesting comments and views about the Violence that will be coming his way in prison.

Here are some of the ones I remember,

The typical people saying "he is going to be abused by many in prison" Then others were saying he will be segregated where no one will ever get to him.

People saying "Prisoners don't take kindly to molester and rapist". While others said "Most prisons are 1/2 full of molesters and rapist".

Although I don't want the guy to have a Extended vacation or Great time away in Prison. I don't wish Rape or torture on him either. (maybe that would be different) if it was my loved one he did harm to.

It is a interesting conversation, If you are so Against rape and abuse then how can you be For it in Prison against this guy? I can see someone wanting to give this guy a good beat down or even the death penalty. So if your against Rape and then wishing the guy gets raped and tortured in prison, can it be coincided hypocritical???
Old     (King12)      Join Date: Jul 2012       08-21-2015, 1:15 PM Reply   
Agreed grant. I think rape and (some) torture are prime examples of why I don't consider and eye for an eye to be applicable in our society.

I don't think rape should ever be taken lightly, especially not to the extent that we hope or suggest it to happen to someone.

Prison violence and he lightheartedness in common conversation is something hat had always confused me. Hahaha. I bet a guy will forcefully rape him haha he will be people's bitch jokes is not funny to me. It's sad.

But I guess we need to finally decide if we have correctional institutes or punishment institutes first..

Beat his ass sure, but don't poke it.

Last edited by King12; 08-21-2015 at 1:18 PM.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       08-21-2015, 1:34 PM Reply   
Hey Did any of you see the Rob Schneider Movie "Big Stan" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0490086/
He knew how to run a prison LOL
Old     (King12)      Join Date: Jul 2012       08-21-2015, 1:55 PM Reply   
I forgot about that movie! LOL
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-22-2015, 2:52 AM Reply   
Yeah, i was referring to big d's post. If you take the position that someone is sick then wishing they get raped for what they have done doesn't seem appropriate. We have moved on from stoning people for there sins i think.
Old     (cowwboy)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-24-2015, 10:35 AM Reply   
This is what I thought was interesting out of the whole deal is that it was a electronics sniffing dog was used to find the jump drives that incriminated him.
http://bgr.com/2015/07/13/electronics-sniffing-dog/
Old     (DenverRider)      Join Date: Feb 2013       08-24-2015, 12:03 PM Reply   
I don't wish the death penalty for Jared because I want to take revenge on him for what he did. I want the death penalty for him because there is no way that he won't reoffend when he is released. They all do. They usually reoffend while still in prison as child porn is often distributed secretly within prisons. The only way to stop a child molester is to kill him. This isn't necessarily true of murderers which is why I believe the death penalty is more appropriate for child molesters than murderers with the exception of serial killers.
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       08-24-2015, 12:31 PM Reply   
Tough to murder more people when you're dead.
Old     (DenverRider)      Join Date: Feb 2013       08-24-2015, 3:00 PM Reply   
I agree but it's just as tough to molest more children. The child molester is more likely to commit his crime again though. I don't think it's more devastating to murder someone than it is to molest a child. I'm not saying that you should give murderers a pass but I think the death penalty should be used based on whether a murderer is more likely to murder again as opposed to compensating a devastated family/public that wants revenge. The death penalty gets doled out in a situation where unusual circumstances lead to the crime and then a different murderer gets a "25 year" sentence on his 3rd time being found guilty of murder and is released again after serving 10 so he can do it again. It doesn't make sense. The strength of the evidence should also be considered (that includes the child molester scenario). The most important factor in my opinion is the fact that child molesters nearly always recommit their crimes and they never spend very long in prison.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-24-2015, 5:42 PM Reply   
There are more options to the current system than just the death penalty, maybe therapy, proper monitoring and support is better at preventing re-offending than incarnation and release like we do now? Killing them would certainly be effective but it is extremely costly to kill someone when you do the numbers and if you view these people as broken damaged people then killing them doesn't seem like a just action to me.

I watched this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdoBZXZ3m3o the other day on Netflix and it got me thinking about how we do things. As a society are we really looking for solutions or just waiting for people to offend so we can hate and do horrible things to them masked as "justice".
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       08-25-2015, 7:20 AM Reply   
Therapy, support and monitoring of child molesters? Hell no. I am happy to help support a tab on killing them. Having said that, there needs to be a line drawn. An 18 year old dating a 17 year old shouldn't be allowed to get charged.
Old     (DenverRider)      Join Date: Feb 2013       08-25-2015, 7:27 AM Reply   
I'm not trying to punish everyone Darren. Notice that I think a special circumstances murder shouldn't be a death penalty case because it shouldn't be about revenge aka doing horrible things to them masked as justice. I also don't support private prisons because they encourage unnecessary incarceration. Child molesters are a different animal because, not only are they going to re-offend but, their victims become the next generation of child molesters. When you consider how many people they have the potential to victimize, you realize that this is a problem that is growing exponentially out of control. There is no effective therapy. There is no effective monitoring or support. The only way to stop them is to kill them. If there was another way I would entertain it but there just isn't. Maybe when we understand the brain better in the future we can save these damaged people and I do support this type of research. Until a breakthrough is made in brain science we need to protect our children.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-25-2015, 3:40 PM Reply   
I watched this on netflix the other night: http://www.dhammabrothers.com/Prison.htm

Another look at a different way of doing things and the redemption of the nonredeemable.
Old     (DocPhil)      Join Date: Aug 2015       08-27-2015, 7:18 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by ralph View Post
I watched this on netflix the other night: http://www.dhammabrothers.com/Prison.htm

Another look at a different way of doing things and the redemption of the nonredeemable.
castration?

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