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Old     (stevo8290)      Join Date: Sep 2008       01-05-2018, 12:53 PM Reply   
Hey man I put in like 5 minutes of effort on a meme generator.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-05-2018, 1:42 PM Reply   
Lol, touche'
Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       01-05-2018, 1:49 PM Reply   
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That is true Trump is playing a game of Risk with our lives on twitter atm. Then again hes not a coward if somebody threatens him hes not just going to pretend it didnt happen. Not looking good for us but imo i think NK is just fooling around and giving idle threats because he knows if he starts a nuclear war even if he nukes us first hes still gonna die and rn he has his minions following around and life is good for him not sure why he would want to kill himself and everyone else in the world.
Trump most certainly is a coward. He had every opportunity to serve his country during Vietnam, but instead hid behind his father's cash.

Funny that tweeting something stupid at a guy halfway around the globe displays bravery.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-05-2018, 1:52 PM Reply   
Bone spurs are no joke
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-05-2018, 3:37 PM Reply   
These are not good times for trump. In addition to some old and severe bone spurs...
Know how you can tell? He try's to make headlines elsewhere...ie 1. Sessions firing up the Feds to go after legal in states marijuana. 2. Trump attempts to fire up off shore oil drilling
1.The Mueller investigation has confirmed Comeys testimony.
2. Trumps motives and intent to obstruct.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-report-327077

Its all the smoke from stuff like this that will eventually add up to the bonfire.

Then there is all the drama from the new fire and fury book. Trump loves drama.
Old     (wakeslash)      Join Date: Sep 2017       01-05-2018, 5:20 PM Reply   
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Did you bump your head recently?
His head has been bumped for a while now.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       01-06-2018, 7:54 PM Reply   
Definitely my go-to line for any criticism from here on out - "I'm a very stable genius."
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Old     (wakeslash)      Join Date: Sep 2017       01-06-2018, 10:44 PM Reply   
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Definitely my go-to line for any criticism from here on out - "I'm a very stable genius."
What happened to "idiocracy is now" line that you've been going at like a crazy parrot. The weird guy, never replies to anybody or joins in the thread discussion just hops on here posts "idiocracy is now" and leaves pretty wack. That meme is lame, try again.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       01-07-2018, 7:11 AM Reply   
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Definitely my go-to line for any criticism from here on out - "I'm a very stable genius."
LOL, I guess when everyone is referring to him as an unpredictable imbecile that's the best he could come up with.
Old     (racer808)      Join Date: Jan 2013       01-07-2018, 5:17 PM Reply   
Donald J Trump, the J is for genius.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-08-2018, 3:37 PM Reply   
^^^LOL!!
Slash, ^^^that isn't a meme, its called a newspaper comic. Gary Larsen is a jeanius.
https://www.pinterest.com/westervig/...omics/?lp=true
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       01-08-2018, 8:08 PM Reply   
Don't feed the troll Darrel

I'm sure this has been edited but classic nonetheless.
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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-08-2018, 8:14 PM Reply   
Ya, except it wasn't his first try, his first try was in 2000
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       01-09-2018, 12:25 PM Reply   
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...armarks-329575

Drain the swamp... with earmarks?
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       01-09-2018, 1:38 PM Reply   
If the economy grows at 3% for the next 3 years, Trump could win the election in 2020! I don't think it is going to happen because all of the numbers are about the same as the last five years.
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Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-09-2018, 1:57 PM Reply   
They released the transcripts of Glenn Simpson aka Fusion GPS interrogation by senate committee.
This ought to answers some questions and raise more.
http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/doc...estimony/2700/
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-10-2018, 8:51 AM Reply   
Drain the swamp. Or something.
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-cap...mpression=true
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-10-2018, 3:23 PM Reply   
Trump is starting to get into panic mode. Public questioning his health, his sanity and his past.
That "negotiation" he had on TV yesterday did not exactly make him look like a jeanius. He agreed with Feinstein, then he agreed with Lindsey Graham who was saying something different. Then another senator stepped in to re-iterate what was said and asked trump to choose...im not sure but i think he choose both. ???
The release of the interrogation of Fusion GPS has plenty of info that makes the Repubs in congress look like they have been assisting in obstruction. I was both surprised and happy that Feinstein released it, that old broad has balls. Trump now calls her "sneaky Dianne". For those of you who have been hanging your hat on the dossier being fake news, bought and paid for by dirty Hillary, full of lies and on and on, its not. Not that everything has been proved...many parts have been proved true AND perhaps more important none has been proved false (other that typos and an incorrect city) but the released dossier was just a 1st draft...expect little mistakes. The Hannity/Republican/trump narrative... trying to question the integrity of Fusion,Steele, the FBI...is going to backfire big time. These guys are serious lifetime professionals. Lets see, am i going to believe James Comey, Bob Mueller, Chris Steele 3 professional investigators, veterans with extraordinary resumes and reputations who methodically do their job and take copious notes ...or... trump who happens to lie to the public on a daily basis and changes the lie as his narrative changes. The story is longer and deeper (and better) than expected, at least by me. The way that Fusion works is quite unique and detailed in the interrogation. Steele did not start out trying to find Russian dirt on trump it is just where the trail led him. Steele, freaked at what he was discovering demanded that he and Fusion contact the FBI as he thought the Russians were blackmailing a presidential candidate. Crazy.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       01-10-2018, 3:44 PM Reply   
Good summary. Been an interesting 36 hours for sure. I was also impressed by the balls on dianne. Things not look too good for Grassley or Nunes!

Fire and Furt is pretty interesting so far. Only about 20 pages in but fascinating to see the chronology and connections being put together coherently.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-10-2018, 5:19 PM Reply   
Yeah, Grassley and many other Repub senators were present and even interviewers of Simpson, they knew and understood what he said. They knew how damning it would be for trump. Then they go off and try to make Fusion, Simpson, Steele out to be the bad guy thru lawsuits.... That is obvious obstruction to protect trump. This is why Feinstein released it. Heads gonna roll. If they don't expect some sort of revolution. Politics is dirty but this is worse than dirty.
I'm gonna try to bury my head and read the whole interrogation as long as I can find the time.... I'll give ya'all some pointers on where to look for the good stuff.
Old     (Laker1234)      Join Date: Mar 2010       01-11-2018, 8:13 AM Reply   
I still say publicity move to get people to buy the book. Even China is jumping on the "Fake News" bandwagon. I almost fainted when this is the news circuit yesterday. https://www.thestreet.com/story/1444...HOO&yptr=yahoo.
Old     (Laker1234)      Join Date: Mar 2010       01-11-2018, 8:14 AM Reply   
(is) hit
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       01-13-2018, 10:47 AM Reply   
Neighbors called me in a panic early this morning. Evidently half the island got this false alarm (I didn’t). Great way to start off a Saturday! Some IT guy just lost his job.
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Old     (wakeslash)      Join Date: Sep 2017       01-13-2018, 11:43 AM Reply   
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Neighbors called me in a panic early this morning. Evidently half the island got this false alarm (I didn’t). Great way to start off a Saturday! Some IT guy just lost his job.
yeah............no offense but if there is a missile coming at hawaii taking shelter really wont help you.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       01-13-2018, 5:10 PM Reply   
Wes I can't imagine. Sorry man, that sucks.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       01-13-2018, 5:17 PM Reply   
What sucks is we are at a point where we don't automatically assume it's false, lol.

I think I am one of the ones that didn't get it because I turned off the emergency alerts on my phone after one too many shrill piercing annoyances.
Old     (Laker1234)      Join Date: Mar 2010       01-16-2018, 6:34 AM Reply   
Crazy!!! Some "heads" will roll over that!!!https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/16/now-...le-launch.html
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-17-2018, 4:15 PM Reply   
She kinda looks like his type.
http://www.newsweek.com/president-do...a-trump-783790
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-17-2018, 11:48 PM Reply   
So Drumpf nails a Pornstar 1 year after marrying Milania while she is pregnant with Baron. Wow, shocking, said no one ever. This will lose him precisely zero votes.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       01-18-2018, 2:26 AM Reply   
So where were all the dems calling for Obama’s resignation and labling him a racist after remarks about Scandinavians ???

2016.

Like it was allegedly said by President Donald Trump, President Barack Obama has a preference for people from Nordic-Scandinavian countries. But unlike Trump, the media did not attack Obama over that, even when he wished the world could be run by people from those countries.Apparently well beyond concerns about being branded a socialist, Obama on Friday celebrated the five Nordic nations as examples of reliability, equality, generosity, responsibility, even personal happiness.

As he welcomed the Nordic leaders to the White House, he owned up to thinking perhaps the small havens of social liberalism should take the reins every now and then.

AND FOR THE WIN .......... Quoting Obama

“If only everyone ( in the Middle East ) could be like the Scandinavians, this ( achieveing peace ) would all be easy.”
Taken from a massive April 2016 Atlantic article on Obama, “The Obama Doctrine” by Jeffrey Goldberg, Obama is quoted yearning for a world of Scandinavians.

So there you have a black president praising and saying more Scandinavians (whites ) in power would better for the world . Not a word of racisim was ever said from the left. Trump makes an identical statement and the left labels him a racist. Hypocricy and agenda driven news at its finest.

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Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       01-18-2018, 2:47 AM Reply   
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So Drumpf nails a Pornstar 1 year after marrying Milania while she is pregnant with Baron. Wow, shocking, said no one ever. This will lose him precisely zero votes.
Are you jealous ?

Nobody gave a **** Bill got blown in the White House while married to the beast . Yup all those dems standing up against sexual harrassment by a political leader during his tenure , and now you’re complaining about Trump having sex with a pornstar on his own time. Realllly ........... In the words of the lefts most prominent pants suit “ what difference does it make”.

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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-18-2018, 3:43 AM Reply   
Lots of people gave a **** when bill got a blow job in the white house, he almost got impeached for it!
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-18-2018, 3:48 AM Reply   
I guess the argument mounted for why being unfaithful is relevant to being in Governent is: If you lie and cheat to your most loved partner it stands to reason you will lie and cheat your constituents who you don't know at all. Meh, it doesn't change anything for me, I think any politician who rises to the top will be totally corrupt anyway.
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       01-18-2018, 7:23 AM Reply   
Everyone knows pornstars don't lie to get in the spotlight.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       01-18-2018, 8:23 AM Reply   
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Lots of people gave a **** when bill got a blow job in the white house, he almost got impeached for it!

Yo mean lots of republicans did. In case you don’t recall 0 ..............Yes 0 Democrats voted to discipline him for his actions. So again those with the biggest mouths today are the biggest hypocrites. How quickly they shift their views when it fits their agenda.

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Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       01-18-2018, 9:38 AM Reply   
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Yo mean lots of republicans did. In case you don’t recall 0 ..............Yes 0 Democrats voted to discipline him for his actions. So again those with the biggest mouths today are the biggest hypocrites. How quickly they shift their views when it fits their agenda.
So basically Democrats were hypocrites in the 90's and Republicans are hypocrites now.
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       01-18-2018, 11:38 AM Reply   
Since the allegation just happened, I believe that would make them hypocrites now.
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       01-18-2018, 12:34 PM Reply   
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So basically Democrats were hypocrites in the 90's and Republicans are hypocrites now.
I'm not sure what Dems love about high taxes and crappy healthcare, but midterms are coming soon!!
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       01-18-2018, 12:36 PM Reply   
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So basically Democrats were hypocrites in the 90's and Republicans are hypocrites now.


Love how you link allegations to actual facts and truth in an attempt to deflect. Nicely done


How exactly are republicans hypocritical here regarding trump banging a pornstar on his own time. I can’t wait to hear this.

Also , I would expect better from the self proclaimed smartest guy on the boards , You can’t be a hypocrite until the actual event occurs in which the hypocracy is displayed. The Dems therefore would be hypocrites now. I won’t charge you for the free educational tidbit .
Old     (racer808)      Join Date: Jan 2013       01-18-2018, 1:57 PM Reply   
Trump didn't pork a porn star while in office nor has he lied under oath about it like the hypocrite rapist liberal the left sticks up for
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       01-18-2018, 2:17 PM Reply   
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I'm not sure what Dems love about high taxes and crappy healthcare, but midterms are coming soon!!
When do you think Pubs are going to fix crappy HC? In 50 years? Right now they are trying to kill HC for poor kids. Not exactly a step in the direction you are suggesting.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       01-18-2018, 2:21 PM Reply   
The Prez can get a BJ in office if he wants. No law against it. I thought we were talking about marital infidelity.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-18-2018, 5:16 PM Reply   
Is it a democrat/republican issue? or a guys that have money and power issue?
Trump was before the election so its a non issue unless you care that the people who run the country have morals. Trumps' a lying A-hole that more than likely lied to all 3 of his wives on a regular basis. Still is, wonder what Melania thinks about this bimbo and the irish chick from Playboy they paid $150K to keep quiet. Too bad we cant divorce him like they could.
So, who won the fake news awards?
Old     (deuce)      Join Date: Mar 2002       01-18-2018, 6:01 PM Reply   
Just to be clear, I didn’t care that President Clinton was getting *******s in the OO and have said that on this forum before. I also don’t care that President Trump is as faithful to each of his different wives, as President Clinton has been to his. I said then and say now, do a good job at running the country, I don’t care how you run your marriage.

That said, if you were bitching about one, better not ignore the other. If you were bitching about President Obama golfing or vacationing on the government dime, better not ignore the next President. Same goes for spending and down the line. Just be intellectually honest, the rest shakes itself out in the wash.

Carry on.
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       01-19-2018, 8:40 AM Reply   
Trump is working hard to prevent government shutdown, right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lkJQuixBMI
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-19-2018, 1:24 PM Reply   
You know....in the history of the USA, we have never had a gov't shut down when the president had the house and senate. This would be a slam dunk for any president ....except humpty drumfty. What happened to the great negotiator? All the best people? Drain the swamp? Mexico will pay for it?
Guess its a little harder when you dont have Russian money launderers to work with to make you "look" smart.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-19-2018, 3:15 PM Reply   
So the house Investigation of Russian interference and trumps involvement ....The House released their interrogation of Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS. If you trumpers did not like the results of the Senates release of their interrogation....you are going to be really disappointed this time. This stuff is way better than the Senates interrogation.
What are you guys going to do when Trumpty Dumty hits the pavement. ??? Fake news?
Here is one little tidbit, you make up your mind. Trump buys a Florida condo for $41Million. The RE market at the time is tanking all over the country, we are into the biggest recession since 1933. Trump sells condo to Russian who pays $95Million. Ever try to sell real estate during a recession? Is this because trump is a greatest salesman in the world or because he is laundering Russian Mob money?
This thing almost reads like a spy novel once it gets going. Also in the beginning he is getting lots of questions from republicans...as the interrogation moves forward its as if the Repubs can see the writing on the wall. They practically stop asking questions...the Dems keep asking away and it gets deeper and deeper for trump.
http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG...0118-SD002.pdf

Congress has this info. What are they doing about it? What is the president and congress doing to stop the Russians from continuing to punk us? Politics is one DIRTY biz.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       01-19-2018, 9:49 PM Reply   
Who’s to blame for the government shutdown?

Let’s ask Donald himself:

Old     (magicr)      Join Date: May 2004       01-19-2018, 10:09 PM Reply   
No one to blame but "The Donald" #TrumpShutdown
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-19-2018, 11:49 PM Reply   
So do you guys have the purge now or what?
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-21-2018, 4:20 AM Reply   
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So the house Investigation of Russian interference and trumps involvement ....The House released their interrogation of Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS. If you trumpers did not like the results of the Senates release of their interrogation....you are going to be really disappointed this time. This stuff is way better than the Senates interrogation.
What are you guys going to do when Trumpty Dumty hits the pavement. ??? Fake news?
Here is one little tidbit, you make up your mind. Trump buys a Florida condo for $41Million. The RE market at the time is tanking all over the country, we are into the biggest recession since 1933. Trump sells condo to Russian who pays $95Million. Ever try to sell real estate during a recession? Is this because trump is a greatest salesman in the world or because he is laundering Russian Mob money?
This thing almost reads like a spy novel once it gets going. Also in the beginning he is getting lots of questions from republicans...as the interrogation moves forward its as if the Repubs can see the writing on the wall. They practically stop asking questions...the Dems keep asking away and it gets deeper and deeper for trump.
http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG...0118-SD002.pdf

Congress has this info. What are they doing about it? What is the president and congress doing to stop the Russians from continuing to punk us? Politics is one DIRTY biz.
I'm about half way though. Trump is a 2 bit crook and fraudster. Truely worse than what i assumed. Amazing he now runs your country.
Old     (wakeslash)      Join Date: Sep 2017       01-21-2018, 1:38 PM Reply   
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I'm about half way though. Trump is a 2 bit crook and fraudster. Truely worse than what i assumed. Amazing he now runs your country.
haha ralph nobody cares what you assumed. At the end of the day Trump is still POTUS and your some troll hiding in NZ.

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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-21-2018, 3:44 PM Reply   
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haha ralph nobody cares what you assumed. At the end of the day Trump is still POTUS and your some troll hiding in NZ.
Correct, Trump is POTUS and I love living in NZ, so the joke is on you actually.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-21-2018, 4:01 PM Reply   
Ok finished reading the document. I'm not going to summarize it because I'm looking at it from my own perspective but if you consider yourself a patriot you should read it too and form your own opinion.
Old     (wakeslash)      Join Date: Sep 2017       01-21-2018, 4:29 PM Reply   
Whoever posted kims face on here for us to look at everytime we scroll down a big F-you for giving us all ptsd from looking at that.
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       01-21-2018, 9:17 PM Reply   
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Correct, Trump is POTUS and I love living in NZ, so the joke is on you actually.
New Zealand has had a massive influx of immigrants from the US since Trumps election so yes the joke is on us...
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       01-22-2018, 8:36 AM Reply   
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Whoever posted kims face on here for us to look at everytime we scroll down a big F-you for giving us all ptsd from looking at that.
And a BIGLY F-you right back at you, Dotard! You know exactly who posted that pic, bitch, And it is hilarious! Enjoy!
Old     (wakeslash)      Join Date: Sep 2017       01-22-2018, 11:43 AM Reply   
Jo shmuck that meme isn't funny because you forgot a important thing KIM can't read HAHA! try again. He was only taught how to eat donuts and threaten other people from his third world country hut.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-22-2018, 1:02 PM Reply   
Im about half way thru the House's Simpson interrogation. Ralph, our congress has this info. If you were in congress and you knew trumps biz history would you be backing him? Why are they not taking action? WTF are these fools thinking?
Wakeslash, have you read it^^ or are you afraid? If so I can set up a comfort station for you to finish reading. They say cannabis helps control PTSD.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-22-2018, 4:39 PM Reply   
No I wouldn't be backing him, he is an A grade shister. I just don't know if any politician is any better.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-22-2018, 4:41 PM Reply   
Wakeslash won't read it, he thinks he is a patriot but really he would rather not know then claim deniability or fake news when it comes out.
Old     (wakeslash)      Join Date: Sep 2017       01-22-2018, 7:17 PM Reply   
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Im about half way thru the House's Simpson interrogation. Ralph, our congress has this info. If you were in congress and you knew trumps biz history would you be backing him? Why are they not taking action? WTF are these fools thinking?
Wakeslash, have you read it^^ or are you afraid? If so I can set up a comfort station for you to finish reading. They say cannabis helps control PTSD.
Hope your crafting your impeach Trump sign right now too bad you missed the protest march that was yesterday you would fit right in there.
Old     (wakeslash)      Join Date: Sep 2017       01-22-2018, 7:31 PM Reply   
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Wakeslash won't read it, he thinks he is a patriot but really he would rather not know then claim deniability or fake news when it comes out.
A patriot you say, ralph what would you know about that? no offense but judging from what you write on here your probably a backstabber who doesnt care about anything but himself. Of course you would vote for a president who doesnt care about his country because it reminds you of yourself and when one that does care about the country and the people here gets in the WH you get triggered along with the rest of the liberals on here.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-22-2018, 7:37 PM Reply   
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A patriot you say, ralph what would you know about that? no offense but judging from what you write on here your probably a backstabber who doesnt care about anything but himself. Of course you would vote for a president who doesnt care about his country because it reminds you of yourself and when one that does care about the country and the people here gets in the WH you get triggered along with the rest of the liberals on here.
Don't worry nothing you say offends me. FYI I'm not liberal but libertarian, I'd explain the difference but I'm not sure you would have the ability to understand it.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-22-2018, 7:39 PM Reply   
Great and getting better. 30% tariff on solar panels. So much winning.
http://time.com/5113472/donald-trump...alflow_twitter
Old     (wakeslash)      Join Date: Sep 2017       01-22-2018, 7:47 PM Reply   
libertarian lmao this guy is a joke. Lol nobody GAF about solar panels find something more interesting then the normal BS you sniff around for to post on here. WW3 is a button away and this clown is talking about solar panels LOL.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-22-2018, 11:42 PM Reply   
As predicted wakeslash hasn't read the doc. Unsure if due to inability to read anything more than 1 sentence long or he is afraid to fall out of love with his hero. Either way, ignorance is his happy place.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       01-23-2018, 2:47 AM Reply   
The hypocritical left continues to roll and pile it on. Following it with the old “amnesia”response


On Friday, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) appeared on MSNBC. During his segment, host Ali Velshi played a clip of OMB Director Mick Mulvaney reciting a direct quote from Sanders regarding the 2013 government shutdown:

What they [Republicans] are saying to the American people tonight is: “Maybe we have lost the presidential election; maybe we've lost seats in the Senate and in the House. It doesn't matter! We can now bring the government to a shutdown – throw some 800,000 hard working Americans out on the street, and we are going to get our way no matter what.”

Mulvaney then commented on the Sanders quote: "This is exactly what they accused the Republicans of doing back in 2013. There is absolutely no reason to have to insert a DACA discussion, immigration discussion into the funding bill today."

After the clip, Velshi asked Sanders to respond. The seemingly flustered Senator replied: "I – that doesn’t sound like – I don’t recall saying anything like that." He quickly pivoted: "Nobody wants a shutdown. Democrats don’t want a shutdown. I think most Republicans don’t want a shutdown. The only person who has talked positively about a shutdown is the President of the United States. He said, you know, maybe the country needs a good shutdown. That was Donald Trump."

Sanders then made his point again: "I don’t want a shutdown; I don’t know anybody who does."


Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       01-23-2018, 10:47 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by xstarrider View Post
The hypocritical left continues to roll and pile it on. Following it with the old “amnesia”response


On Friday, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) appeared on MSNBC. During his segment, host Ali Velshi played a clip of OMB Director Mick Mulvaney reciting a direct quote from Sanders regarding the 2013 government shutdown:

What they [Republicans] are saying to the American people tonight is: “Maybe we have lost the presidential election; maybe we've lost seats in the Senate and in the House. It doesn't matter! We can now bring the government to a shutdown – throw some 800,000 hard working Americans out on the street, and we are going to get our way no matter what.”

Mulvaney then commented on the Sanders quote: "This is exactly what they accused the Republicans of doing back in 2013. There is absolutely no reason to have to insert a DACA discussion, immigration discussion into the funding bill today."

After the clip, Velshi asked Sanders to respond. The seemingly flustered Senator replied: "I – that doesn’t sound like – I don’t recall saying anything like that." He quickly pivoted: "Nobody wants a shutdown. Democrats don’t want a shutdown. I think most Republicans don’t want a shutdown. The only person who has talked positively about a shutdown is the President of the United States. He said, you know, maybe the country needs a good shutdown. That was Donald Trump."

Sanders then made his point again: "I don’t want a shutdown; I don’t know anybody who does."


I don't think this is a Liberal problem.
Trump has contradicted himself so many times via twitter that there is an entire Reddit subthread dedicated to it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpCriticizesTrump/

Name a republican politician and I will show you video of him saying the exact opposite of whatever he is saying now.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-23-2018, 11:54 AM Reply   
Wakeslash, still waiting for you to read the released document. I even put up a link for you. Ralph doesn't know if you dont read it because your afraid or because you cant read more than a sentence or two. Its not CNN, FOX or MSMBC....it is your congressmen asking pointed questions about the Dossier. No Fake News.

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The hypocritical left continues to roll and pile it on. Following it with the old “amnesia”response
Interesting, Wonder if trumpty got that lefty memo from you. Seems a sitting president has amnesia too.
http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-2013-...unt-him-786477
Bam.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-23-2018, 12:10 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by ralph View Post
Great and getting better. 30% tariff on solar panels. So much winning.
http://time.com/5113472/donald-trump...alflow_twitter
And I have been researching solar for my house. Damn. Now it is going to cost me more. There is 2 sides to the story. Trump chose USA manufacturers of the panels. Its going to help those manufacturers', of course its going to penalize the install side of the business. One of the biggest job growers especially in California. So the final users, USA buyers, pay more (strike 1) and US jobs will be lost on slow down of installs (strike 2). But the manufacturers' who could not compete and build panels as cheap as the Chinese continue to reap profits. Hmm, not sure i would want to reward the inefficient and penalize the Chinese (1) who are for many reasons more efficient (labor, lower overhead)...the USA buyers(2) and the entire install side of the business(3). 3 losers and 1 cherry picked winner.
Perhaps the usa manufacturing should double down on research and development and contract the Chinese to manufacture higher quality. win/win. ?? I dont know all the numbers so I could be completely off. Just thinking out loud. School me.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       01-23-2018, 12:20 PM Reply   
LoL life imitating art!
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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-23-2018, 2:49 PM Reply   
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And I have been researching solar for my house. Damn. Now it is going to cost me more. There is 2 sides to the story. Trump chose USA manufacturers of the panels. Its going to help those manufacturers', of course its going to penalize the install side of the business. One of the biggest job growers especially in California. So the final users, USA buyers, pay more (strike 1) and US jobs will be lost on slow down of installs (strike 2). But the manufacturers' who could not compete and build panels as cheap as the Chinese continue to reap profits. Hmm, not sure i would want to reward the inefficient and penalize the Chinese (1) who are for many reasons more efficient (labor, lower overhead)...the USA buyers(2) and the entire install side of the business(3). 3 losers and 1 cherry picked winner.
Perhaps the usa manufacturing should double down on research and development and contract the Chinese to manufacture higher quality. win/win. ?? I dont know all the numbers so I could be completely off. Just thinking out loud. School me.
100% agree. 3 questions you need to answer
1. Where does the money generated from the tariff go, into the slush fund or into tech developments to bridge the gap to the Chinese?
2. Is manufacturing the future path for the usa worker, is that what they want to do, isn't it better to develop the ip and outsource the donkey work?
3. What will china's response to import tariffs, why wouldn't they slap a retaliatory tariff on US goods imported to China?
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-23-2018, 3:27 PM Reply   
Good point, I did not even consider # 1. Wow.
Yes, agree, let us work on the R & D let china do what they are good at.
China will just continue to manipulate currency.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-23-2018, 5:37 PM Reply   
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not sure what your getting at.
Lol, that surprises nobody.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       01-23-2018, 5:50 PM Reply   
Did anyone catch the un canny resemblance between the Woman behind Shumer and Eeyore?
Old     (wakeslash)      Join Date: Sep 2017       01-23-2018, 5:55 PM Reply   
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did anyone catch the un canny resemblance between the woman behind shumer and eeyore?
haha!
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       01-24-2018, 6:54 AM Reply   
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Good point, I did not even consider # 1. Wow.
Yes, agree, let us work on the R & D let china do what they are good at.
China will just continue to manipulate currency.
What exactly are we good at that's going to stem the flow of our economy heading overseas? And why is manipulating currency, something that nobody has any idea of how or how much, become the talking point when we know that American workers can't compete with impoverished labor and low standards? I'm pretty sure that most Americans are not capable of R&D.

Lastly why solar power? Why not iPhones? What happened to that promise of a 45% tariff on all Chinese imports? Did it become 10%? 1%?, empty promise?
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       01-24-2018, 7:19 AM Reply   
“Why Solar Panels” ? I was having a conversation about this very subject with a buddy in the Solar industry a few years back, at that time he said that China was so set on being a solar panel giant, that china was willing to sell panels even at a Loss just to make sure America company’s didn’t get started in the solar panel manufacturing business. They were making and selling product so cheep, no one here in the US would Even think about competing with them.
Old     (stanfield)      Join Date: Mar 2004       01-24-2018, 8:36 AM Reply   
China violates anti-dumping laws all the time on all sorts of goods / commodities. I would assume that is why Trump was all "tariffs on Chinese imports," but I doubt anybody bothers to do anything about it. I do think something should be done, but what to do is above my pay grade and I work on complex supply chains involving China for a living.
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