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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-01-2017, 9:34 PM Reply   
Icarus
http://imdb.com/rg/an_share/title/title/tt6333060/

Has anybody watched this yet? What did you think? Anybody think that elite sport of any kind is remotely clean?
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       09-04-2017, 6:02 PM Reply   
I just watched it. It's sad to say that I don't think to many people will be surprised at how low or how much Russia is willling to Lie or cheat to gain a advantage. I have been told buy Russian people that cheating is a part of their culture, starting in grade school. Parents help children cheat in sports and in school tests. Hell even in this documentary the Russian guy admits his mom injected his steroids for him. It's definitely a survival of the fittest county, don't believe me? do a "car deal" or some other business transaction with a true Russian, You will find out these people are "very motivated" A guy I know who is Russian says. A the definition of a Russian is a guy who enters a Revolving door behind you but some how exits in front of you!
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-04-2017, 6:17 PM Reply   
This isn't just about Russia, yes Russia got caught but where did they place on the medal table? 4th-5th? Uh, ok. Either the drugs don't work or everybody is up to something. The second is the most likely IMO....
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       09-04-2017, 7:12 PM Reply   
I saw another program on 60mims where a Russian whistle blower talks about the government that was pairing men and woman to work together to cheat the system. It was clear the Russian government was working to make sure the Russians would not ever test positive.

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