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Originally Posted by shawndoggy

Obama must have been a mastermind to have preemptively obtained a fisa warrant on Manafort before trump even announced he was running, let alone before Trump brought on Manafort to manage his campaign. Seems like some serious jedi mind control going on.

Na. They were monitoring Manafort for working with the Ukrainians (sp?). However, since it does not appear to a criminal warrant (FISA), it was for monitoring foreign communications. That is relatively routine. What is not routine is the information that was in a private conversation during the election with Trump and his manager and the only path that could have got out was through the White House.

Originally Posted by 95sn

LOL, um no. Trump is rarely right. Hey, did he unleash the Fire and Fury yet?
The more interesting warrant was the search warrant at manaforts house. To get that they must convince a judge of criminal activity. They did. They have told manafort they intend to indict him. Why did trump hire manafort, who was being investigated by the FBI, as his campaign manager. His recent expertise in advancing ukranian / Russian agenda, and money laundering thru real estate. Russians arnt supposed to vote in American elections. This appears to be the guy Mueller is trying to get to flip for the big orange fish.

Interesting. When Comey was under questioning, he denied that he knew the FBI was monitoring.

Monitoring who?
When trump fired comey...he told me 3 times I was not under investigation....lol.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Monitoring who?
When trump fired comey...he told me 3 times I was not under investigation....lol.

Trump Tower. Problem is, his campaign manager had an office in Trump Tower. It is possible that Comey did not know because it was a FISA Warrant. That means only the spooks and the White House (Susan Rice) knew.

They cleared Rice. Guess trump was wrong.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/13/politi...als/index.html

Originally Posted by 95sn

They cleared Rice. Guess trump was wrong.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/13/politi...als/index.html

I don't think that clears her. I think it implicates her as a leak source to the media. She admitted to unmasking which is an act of getting Americans names that are involved in when monitoring foreign entities in a FISA operation. She now had names to go along with different communications. When she got what she thought was juice news, she leaked it to the press. Sounds like she is in more hot water than not.

You know who is feeling the heat from the water?...Facebook.
Facebook to turn over to congress over 3000 ads placed by Russians.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/21/t...ssian-ads.html

Why are repubs always focused on "leaks" instead of what evidence the leak reveals? Don't shoot the messenger.

And why has trump been so Russia friendly beginning with changing the Republican agenda even before winning the nomination? hmmm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.c6e71f4f8757

Originally Posted by 95sn

You know who is feeling the heat from the water?...Facebook.
Facebook to turn over to congress over 3000 ads placed by Russians.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/21/t...ssian-ads.html

Why are repubs always focused on "leaks" instead of what evidence the leak reveals? Don't shoot the messenger.

And why has trump been so Russia friendly beginning with changing the Republican agenda even before winning the nomination? hmmm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.c6e71f4f8757

Russian agenda? You mean like the US antagonizing Russia in Syria?

Being friendly to a nation is not illegal. Obama promises the Russians that he could do more after his second election. Who was doing what for the Russians? High level democrats asked the Russians for help to defeat Reagan. Even asked them to help make propoganda news pieces. Clinton sold rocket parts to China against congresses wishes. Clinton gave China most favored trade status which is killing our competitive worker balance. Clinton signed NAFTA which is killing our economy. The list goes on and on, however the DNC lies about a russian hack (which someone there should be in jail) to get a special prosecuter brought in and now this is where the line is drawn? Don't by it. The Russian garbage was a fake from the beginning. Now the lie is up but the sham of a special council is still on.

Leaks of classified intel is ILLEGAL. That is why Hillary should be in prison as well as Susan Rice. It amazes me of what people will let people get away with as long as they think it helps their tangled web of feelings.

Originally Posted by 95sn

You know who is feeling the heat from the water?...Facebook.
Facebook to turn over to congress over 3000 ads placed by Russians.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/21/t...ssian-ads.html

Why are repubs always focused on "leaks" instead of what evidence the leak reveals? Don't shoot the messenger.

And why has trump been so Russia friendly beginning with changing the Republican agenda even before winning the nomination? hmmm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.c6e71f4f8757

Your realize that Washington post article is an Opinion piece right? It is centered around Ukraine and not Russia and much of the discussion was around alleged unnamed Trump people in an alleged meeting where they supposedly changed wording in a resolution (prior to Trump being president no less) and that wording was changed from “providing lethal defensive weapons” to “appropriate assistance.” Oh my. Trump is in bed with the Russians. Did you also notice in the article that Obama also rejected the same stance as this person in the committee and they conclusion of the article is Trump is not in step with the Republicans (according to this Opinion writer) and because he is not in step with this Opinion writer, he is dangerous?

How in the world can you logically offer up this tripe as evidence of anything?

just google GOP agenda re Russia. 7-10 articles will pop up for you.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-c...-lied-about-it
Gonna be fun to see the facebook ads. Is that fake news too Donald?
Trump would rather tweet than take any action to stop Russian meddling. Someone should explain to him that the 2016 election V. Clinton is over. Why does he lash out and blame everyone BUT he and putin? I'm not even taking the next step to say he and his boys colluded. Really only 5 or 6 of his guys met up with Russians, nothing.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/22/politi...sia/index.html

Kimmel is killing the latest and greatest Trumpcare plan. More proficient planning from the GOP, Graham, Cassidy bill is a winner. 7 years of "repeal/replace and this is #1 on the trump playlist. "Its Great!"
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood...alth-care-bill

Originally Posted by 95sn

just google GOP agenda re Russia. 7-10 articles will pop up for you.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-c...-lied-about-it
Gonna be fun to see the facebook ads. Is that fake news too Donald?
Trump would rather tweet than take any action to stop Russian meddling. Someone should explain to him that the 2016 election V. Clinton is over. Why does he lash out and blame everyone BUT he and putin? I'm not even taking the next step to say he and his boys colluded. Really only 5 or 6 of his guys met up with Russians, nothing.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/22/politi...sia/index.html

Kimmel is killing the latest and greatest Trumpcare plan. More proficient planning from the GOP, Graham, Cassidy bill is a winner. 7 years of "repeal/replace and this is #1 on the trump playlist. "Its Great!"
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood...alth-care-bill

You realize that those articles are popping up because every single left wing media person was writing articles to help push the Russian angle. It is called politics. For every article written, there are a few more that reference the original article and then add their spin to the original.

Interesting that Facebook had over 3000 Russian sponsored Troll adds. Don't really see much sponsored from Facebook that was pro Trump.

It was mostly pro trump and other issues....racial, religious or amplifying divisive social issues or political messages. Kinda like trump trolling the nfl for no reason but to divide the country.

Originally Posted by 95sn

It was mostly pro trump and other issues....racial, religious or amplifying divisive social issues or political messages. Kinda like trump trolling the nfl for no reason but to divide the country.

You mean to tell me facebook is part of the problem? Tell me it isn't so. Sounds like a conspiracy. ;0)

Originally Posted by 95sn

It was mostly pro trump and other issues....racial, religious or amplifying divisive social issues or political messages. Kinda like trump trolling the nfl for no reason but to divide the country.

That is the stupidest thing that i have ever heard.

If trolling the NFL divides the nation that says more about the retardation of our society than it does Trump

Originally Posted by racer808

If trolling the NFL divides the nation that says more about the retardation of our society than it does Trump

Yeah, Trump pretty much defines his own retardation on a daily basis. And society defined theirs when they voted for him.

It's amazing how the self-aggrandizing doofus blew a chance to gain political capital by getting on top of the PR crisis, but instead decided to pick the low hanging fruit that only appeals to his dwindling supporters by deciding that the NFL was the challenge he needed to tackle. It's not like putting the focus on PR would have been difficult. He just needed to do what he always does and tell others to handle it and make him look good.

Originally Posted by fly135

Yeah, Trump pretty much defines his own retardation on a daily basis. And society defined theirs when they voted for him.

It's amazing how the self-aggrandizing doofus blew a chance to gain political capital by getting on top of the PR crisis, but instead decided to pick the low hanging fruit that only appeals to his dwindling supporters by deciding that the NFL was the challenge he needed to tackle. It's not like putting the focus on PR would have been difficult. He just needed to do what he always does and tell others to handle it and make him look good.

I think he played the NFL and the leftists in the ranks like a fiddle. Easy pickings. It is eating up sports and politic talk shows 24/7. When the dust settles, all the people are going to remember where all those leftists disrespecting the flag and veterans on football Sunday. Base is highly mobilized and the moderates are agreeing that the leftist are F upped. Well played NFL. Trump is playing chess and you are playing checkers.

I prefer to wait till the dust settles to decide what people remember. I doubt Trump is carving out a path to success with his chaotic leadership. Like I said... no surprise his dwindling supporters will continue to see and tout his feckless and ineffectual leadership as an example of greatness.

Originally Posted by deltahoosier

I think he played the NFL and the leftists in the ranks like a fiddle. Easy pickings. It is eating up sports and politic talk shows 24/7. When the dust settles, all the people are going to remember where all those leftists disrespecting the flag and veterans on football Sunday. Base is highly mobilized and the moderates are agreeing that the leftist are F upped. Well played NFL. Trump is playing chess and you are playing checkers.

Yes the NFL is also loosing sponsors. Along with the CTE's . The days maybe numbered. Also remember Trump owned a professional team and won a championship or two. It may have been the WFL but he did lead the team. The anarchist's are always trying to put down America until the Nation becomes 100 percent Socialist and then like previous history they will be the first to go.

Facebook and twitter were used by Russians.
http://www.businessinsider.com/twitt...acebook-2017-9
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-d...clinton-2017-9

Yes the NFL is also loosing sponsors. Along with the CTE's . The days maybe numbered. Also remember Trump owned a professional team and won a championship or two. It may have been the WFL but he did lead the team. The anarchist's are always trying to put down America until the Nation becomes 100 percent Socialist and then like previous history they will be the first to go.

Last edited by deneng; Today at 11:48 AM.

USFL, please recheck your alternate facts. Trump has always been a loser, then and now. Many people say Donald Trump was the reason the USFL folded. They never got out of the 1st round of playoffs. How is that "a championship or two"? The good news is we still have freedom of speech, so you can continue to make things up and print them here. America the Beautiful where you may burn your bra, your flag or your brain.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/20/s...-football.html

Originally Posted by deneng

Yes the NFL is also loosing sponsors. Along with the CTE's . The days maybe numbered. Also remember Trump owned a professional team and won a championship or two. It may have been the WFL but he did lead the team. The anarchist's are always trying to put down America until the Nation becomes 100 percent Socialist and then like previous history they will be the first to go.

No, we don't remember that. Maybe you can invent a false narrative to support your claim.

My bad. They did make the playoffs twice ,and Trump put together a dream team that destroyed teams until the league folded. Yes it was the USFL which was a much more talented league and Trump signed the best players.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Facebook and twitter were used by Russians.
http://www.businessinsider.com/twitt...acebook-2017-9
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-d...clinton-2017-9



USFL, please recheck your alternate facts. Trump has always been a loser, then and now. Many people say Donald Trump was the reason the USFL folded. They never got out of the 1st round of playoffs. How is that "a championship or two"? The good news is we still have freedom of speech, so you can continue to make things up and print them here. America the Beautiful where you may burn your bra, your flag or your brain.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/20/s...-football.html

So is that why chose to be a communist?

I thought the red trucker hat made me automatically a great American. no?