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Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       01-15-2021, 9:39 AM Reply   
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You'll probably be able to answer these questions for yourself a little better when you and your biracial kids are hanging out with your inlaws for the day. Or when you and your biracial kids are our on the town and someone asks you (or them) how you know each other. The real answer is different for everyone. But you'll likely learn a lot about your own biases, prejudices and assumptions in that context. The short answer is (IMHO) falling in love with someone of a different race will likely be the beginning of your path, not the end.
There is no "real answer" this entire **** show has created a race bate BS hate movement. There are real racists, and those who just are not! WE all need to stop calling people racist as a means of gaining "a win" in an argument of opinion. Its out of control.

WE have to stop using race as a trump card. its not, its both dangerous and untrue. Very few people are racist, black or white. And real racism has no colors, as it can be a black man or women, brown, white, yellow etc etc

Politicians do not "make people" hate People make people hate. Everyone knows politicians are liars, also 99% are attorneys before becoming Politicians. they say and do anything and everything to "get a vote" They talk out of both sides of their mouths and are given the power to do it.

We should be able to argue politics, debate away, but we need to stop blanketing people and groups as racist unless we all want a race war, and I pray that a race war never happens.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-15-2021, 10:00 AM Reply   
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There is no "real answer" this entire **** show has created a race bate BS hate movement. There are real racists, and those who just are not! WE all need to stop calling people racist as a means of gaining "a win" in an argument of opinion. Its out of control.

WE have to stop using race as a trump card. its not, its both dangerous and untrue. Very few people are racist, black or white. And real racism has no colors, as it can be a black man or women, brown, white, yellow etc etc

Politicians do not "make people" hate People make people hate. Everyone knows politicians are liars, also 99% are attorneys before becoming Politicians. they say and do anything and everything to "get a vote" They talk out of both sides of their mouths and are given the power to do it.

We should be able to argue politics, debate away, but we need to stop blanketing people and groups as racist unless we all want a race war, and I pray that a race war never happens.
If your not a racist, you have nothing to worry about. You appear to be concerned, as you keep bringing it up time after time. Why? If people are racist, they need to be called out, agree? Use the Golden Rule and you will never have a problem, doesnt seem too difficult. I guarantee you this plan will work 100% for you. Its even in the bible. Pretty simple. Wont that be great? Just treat people well, you know, like you want to be treated.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       01-15-2021, 10:09 AM Reply   
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There is no "real answer" this entire **** show has created a race bate BS hate movement. There are real racists, and those who just are not!
There are plenty of people who don't actively espouse racist ideology, but nevertheless have been conditioned through social norms or whatever, to perpetuate a system that favors white folks over others. Hating the game doesn't mean hating the players, but if the players refuse to acknowledge the game could be biased, then you have a problem.

I agree with you that the days of active, forceful, out in the open klan-rally and lynching kind racism are fading. But if you feel uncomfortable at a black church or being the only white guy at your indian wife's family reunion, then consider how those folks feel every day participating in majority white culture.

Like I said, if you have kids that aren't of your race, it's really gonna open your eyes. Put yourself in Obama's mom's shoes and consider the world for your son.

Note for future reference -- I wouldn't go calling anybody "yellow." That kinda went out of favor with the Spanish flu. Even though you may not have had any sort of racist intent in saying that, others may see it that way (especially "yellow" folks).
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       01-15-2021, 10:20 AM Reply   
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The Proud Boys as described by WIKI,
The Proud Boys is a far-right, neo-fascist, and male-only political organization that promotes and engages in political violence in the United States and Canada.
People on trial for murder maybe should avoid "socializing" with the people who got him into the trouble he is in. Unless hes just a roach. Are gang bangers awaiting trial allowed to "socialize" with other gang bangers? or does parole frown on that practice? Will attys remind the court? Do the Chicago police keep track of gang signs, I know they do here in LA. They know gang tattoos, the colors, the signs they flash, all part of effective policing.
LOL, leftist rag, Its the only paper in the country that published the Hunter Biden garbage. Clown.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Cuz wiki doesn’t have an agenda. You’re a fool. You didn’t even know politicians took an oath.


Cite the numerous violent acts as a group by them. I can’t wait for your response. You missed the rest of their definition.

In late November 2018, an internal memo from the Clark County Sheriff's Office showed that the FBI had designated the Proud Boys an extremist group, but it later clarified that only certain members were extremist


To answer your question. , yes gangbangers are allowed to socialize with other gang members while awaiting trial. It’s very common and legal unless there are special exceptions written in to the bond. So is BLM now a terrorist group as well? Should people on bond not allowed to socialize with BLM supporters while awaiting charges for their crimes dishing the riots ? Members of their groups have committed violent acts in their name for years

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Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       01-15-2021, 10:24 AM Reply   
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To answer your question. , yes gangbangers are allowed to socialize with other gang members while awaiting trial. It’s very common and legal unless there are special exceptions written in to the bond.
Does the continued association ever get brought up and used against them at trial?
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       01-15-2021, 10:26 AM Reply   
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Pretty sure DC mayor doesn't have jurisdiction over capitol hill police, only DC Metro police.

Also DC Mayor had previously requested national guard. Like before the rally even started.

Ya notice the guard is sleeping in the hallways of the capitol now?

Who has ever advocated social workers as a defense against rioters? I've heard people advocate for social workers to help with stuff like homeless populations, but never riot defense?
As mentioned the DC mayor requested the guard to deployed without access to their forearms , ammunitions, riot control gear and the plan was to have them dispersed around the city with police as security. That was denied because it’s an absurd request. So again the crying about the guard falls on the mayor



Guess you missed all the leftist agendas to police reforms sending in social workers to handle armed
Offenders and death-escalate them

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Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-15-2021, 10:37 AM Reply   
What is Wiki's agenda?
Proud moments for Proud Boys...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/proud-boy...181132264.html
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...lawmakers.html
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/la...ol/ar-BB1cNdOX
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/25/us/ex...ber/index.html
https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/...nce-a-pattern/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...on/6570794002/
https://www.wusa9.com/article/featur...2-ec49241bdf61
https://globalnews.ca/news/7566687/f...-organization/
https://time.com/5894743/trump-proud-boys-history/
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/30/u...oys-trump.html

Took all of 3 minutes. Clown.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       01-15-2021, 10:38 AM Reply   
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As mentioned the DC mayor requested the guard to deployed without access to their forearms , ammunitions, riot control gear and the plan was to have them dispersed around the city with police as security. That was denied because it’s an absurd request. So again the crying about the guard falls on the mayor



Guess you missed all the leftist agendas to police reforms sending in social workers to handle armed
Offenders and death-escalate them
WaPo suggests that the pentagon set those restrictions: https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...da2_story.html
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-15-2021, 10:52 AM Reply   
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To answer your question. , yes gangbangers are allowed to socialize with other gang members while awaiting trial. It’s very common and legal unless there are special exceptions written in to the bond. So is BLM now a terrorist group as well? Should people on bond not allowed to socialize with BLM supporters while awaiting charges for their crimes dishing the riots ? Members of their groups have committed violent acts in their name for years
IMO, anyone or any group whos goal is violence against United States democracy is a terrorist group. The reason the USA is/was the leader of the free world is because of democracy. We spent decades selling democracy to other nations across the globe in order to improve the world. Its been the State Depts goal for decades and decades. The basis of democracy is our faith in our elections. Trump is destroying democracy by sowing doubt and violence of our 2020 election.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       01-15-2021, 10:53 AM Reply   
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There are plenty of people who don't actively espouse racist ideology, but nevertheless have been conditioned through social norms or whatever, to perpetuate a system that favors white folks over others. Hating the game doesn't mean hating the players, but if the players refuse to acknowledge the game could be biased, then you have a problem.

I agree with you that the days of active, forceful, out in the open klan-rally and lynching kind racism are fading. But if you feel uncomfortable at a black church or being the only white guy at your indian wife's family reunion, then consider how those folks feel every day participating in majority white culture.

Like I said, if you have kids that aren't of your race, it's really gonna open your eyes. Put yourself in Obama's mom's shoes and consider the world for your son.

Note for future reference -- I wouldn't go calling anybody "yellow." That kinda went out of favor with the Spanish flu. Even though you may not have had any sort of racist intent in saying that, others may see it that way (especially "yellow" folks).


Would this be the condition you speak of.

2 blacks targeting a young white male walking his dog in a predominately black neighborhood, robbing him , then shooting him to death? Where is the national outrage and marches for Milan Loncar, a WHITE graduate student simply walking his dog while living in a predominantly black neighborhood (80% black) .



Not wanting to live by, in, or attend/walk through black neighborhoods across America isn’t racist , it’s based on safety and security. Plain and simple. The left wants to turn it into a racist agenda instead of a targeted approach to crime agenda, because if they actually discussed crime stats and statistics they’d lose all the people of color and money they on so heavily to push their agenda.

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Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-15-2021, 11:04 AM Reply   
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Would this be the condition you speak of.

2 blacks targeting a young white male walking his dog in a predominately black neighborhood, robbing him , then shooting him to death? Where is the national outrage and marches for Milan Loncar, a WHITE graduate student simply walking his dog while living in a predominantly black neighborhood (80% black) .



Not wanting to live by, in, or attend/walk through black neighborhoods across America isn’t racist , it’s based on safety and security. Plain and simple. The left wants to turn it into a racist agenda instead of a targeted approach to crime agenda, because if they actually discussed crime stats and statistics they’d lose all the people of color and money they on so heavily to push their agenda.
I think the current example in Michigan is a good one. The Rep Gov and his "managers" decided the black votes dont count, so instead of listening to the voters and install the elected mayors, he placed "managers" instead of who the voters choose to represent them. The poor black folks (and white) in Flint didnt need clean water. Flint is 53% black. The white people in charge thought brown lead filled water was fine for the poor.
https://crooksandliars.com/2021/01/e...-and-others-be
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       01-15-2021, 11:12 AM Reply   
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Would this be the condition you speak of.

2 blacks targeting a young white male walking his dog in a predominately black neighborhood, robbing him , then shooting him to death? Where is the national outrage and marches for Milan Loncar, a WHITE graduate student simply walking his dog while living in a predominantly black neighborhood (80% black) .



Not wanting to live by, in, or attend/walk through black neighborhoods across America isn’t racist , it’s based on safety and security. Plain and simple. The left wants to turn it into a racist agenda instead of a targeted approach to crime agenda, because if they actually discussed crime stats and statistics they’d lose all the people of color and money they on so heavily to push their agenda.

By that logic Parler *should* be shut down because insurrectionists coordinated there?
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       01-15-2021, 11:23 AM Reply   
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WaPo suggests that the pentagon set those restrictions: https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...da2_story.html
Yes , At the request of the mayor those rules were what were requested. The next paragraph details the prohibited actions approved were at the request of the mayor and that the mayor did not make any argument to want the Guard face to face with rioters and riot control and possessing their weapons. It’s a city policy , that NG troops can’t operate armed while inside the city limits. It’s federal policy they can’t operate armed while on the federal property of the Capitol Building without special approval. Planned protests are not and have never been sufficient for that to be approved. The Pentagon at that moment would have had to approve those special circumstances and based off prior past practices didn’t have any special reason to deviate from the norm. Furthermore why should they approve that “ specail exception” measure when the mayor wouldn’t rescind his for the city? Deploying Armed Guardsman to the Nations Capitol isn’t as clear cut as the media wants you to believe, it again is an attempted smear campaign at the behest of leaving out important details.


In memos issued Monday and Tuesday in response to a request from the D.C. mayor, the Pentagon prohibited the District’s guardsmen from receiving ammunition or riot gear, interacting with protesters unless necessary for self-defense, sharing equipment with local law enforcement, or using Guard surveillance and air assets without the defense secretary’s explicit sign-off, according to officials familiar with the orders. The limits were established because the Guard hadn’t been asked to assist with crowd or riot control.

The pentagon didn’t “prohibit “ them for this single occurrence, it’s actual national policy they can’t. It’s quite the opposite, the Pentagon actually approved their full deployment when it was deemed necessary( at which a lot parameters had to have been met) and now has approved that to continue. People really need to learn the laws of the country before they go on tirades based on media loops.

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Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       01-15-2021, 11:44 AM Reply   
So it wasn’t a leftist conspiracy to turn the National Guard into social workers after all?
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-15-2021, 12:15 PM Reply   
I can’t stop laughing at that cue ball, illiterate, libtard rep, Ayanna (another made-up-ghetto-name) Pressley from Massachusetts who accused R’s of “chemical warfare.” That was priceless.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-15-2021, 12:33 PM Reply   
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I have a question, if you are white, and marry a black man or women, are you still racist and just have a fetish for black men or women, and only married to them to control them? Another

If you are black and a member of the proud boys, what are you then?
If you are white and part of the BLM are you racists against whites?

What are the rules. I am not a racist, or a bigot, have no ill will to anyone, especially based on their skin color, but Its becoming hard to tell what a racist is, who they are, and how we categorize them.

If you are white, are you racists by nature? Can you be white and not a racist? Are black / brown people actually racists to white people because they are born black and are racists by nature too!

How can you call a person racist, that you dont even know, only to find out the person is not white? Then what happens. The left has brought race to a new entire level.

What if you feel black but are white, or feel white but are black? Does that change these new rules. What if you are white and adopted by black parents?

What if you are a man (by gender) dress as a women, but your name is Tony (as a man) do you have to change Tony to Toni? What if you were white when Tony, then decide you feel black as Toni (the women) but only when you dress as Toni? Can you be a white man by day, and racist, but a black women at night and not be anymore?

So many questions so little time. maybe we should just stop calling people racist, especially when you really dont know.
Great post. Thank a democrat, the party of the KKK next time you see one for creating the confusion.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-15-2021, 12:36 PM Reply   
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IMO, anyone or any group whos goal is violence against United States democracy is a terrorist group. The reason the USA is/was the leader of the free world is because of democracy. We spent decades selling democracy to other nations across the globe in order to improve the world. Its been the State Depts goal for decades and decades. The basis of democracy is our faith in our elections. Trump is destroying democracy by sowing doubt and violence of our 2020 election.
So you must admit that BLM and ANTIFA are terrorists then, right?
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-15-2021, 12:45 PM Reply   
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Great post. Thank a democrat, the party of the KKK next time you see one for creating the confusion.
Great another republican who doesnt know if hes black, white, brown or rainbow and has no idea how to treat people. It aint that difficult.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       01-15-2021, 12:49 PM Reply   
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So you must admit that BLM and ANTIFA are terrorists then, right?
I don't read his chit, but Trump is not destroying democracy. Democrats every election said it was stolen. They objected to Alabama voting for Trump though he got 60 to 80% of the vote. Only people who are destroying democracy are the democrat lawyers who have gone out of their way through the courts to change election laws in an unconstitutional manner.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-15-2021, 12:51 PM Reply   
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So you must admit that BLM and ANTIFA are terrorists then, right?
The goal of BLM isnt to use violence against democracy. Antifa is anti fascism.
Were there looters and violent rioters over the summer, 100% there were. Those are criminals. They belong in jail just as the insurrectionists last Wednesday.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       01-15-2021, 12:57 PM Reply   
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I don't read his chit, but Trump is not destroying democracy. Democrats every election said it was stolen. They objected to Alabama voting for Trump though he got 60 to 80% of the vote. Only people who are destroying democracy are the democrat lawyers who have gone out of their way through the courts to change election laws in an unconstitutional manner.
By "they" you mean who? All democrats objected?
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-15-2021, 12:58 PM Reply   
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I don't read his chit, but Trump is not destroying democracy. Democrats every election said it was stolen. They objected to Alabama voting for Trump though he got 60 to 80% of the vote. Only people who are destroying democracy are the democrat lawyers who have gone out of their way through the courts to change election laws in an unconstitutional manner.
If your goal is to over throw a presidential election and retain power, what would you call it if not insurrection, sedition, a coup? If we do not trust in our elections, we have no democracy. We become Russia or your choice of S hole country.

The "objection" of Alabama vote, yes it happened, it was over in literally seconds. I played the complete vid yesterday. How can democrat lawyers beat Trump judges? There are no Republican lawyers? Just Rudy and the Krakken?
Old     (skiboarder)      Join Date: Oct 2006       01-15-2021, 1:02 PM Reply   
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I don't read his chit, but Trump is not destroying democracy. Democrats every election said it was stolen. They objected to Alabama voting for Trump though he got 60 to 80% of the vote. Only people who are destroying democracy are the democrat lawyers who have gone out of their way through the courts to change election laws in an unconstitutional manner.
To be fair, when they objected they said it was to protest restrictive voter laws and they had no intention whatsoever of overturning the election. Biden quickly counted the electors with no debate.

Trump claiming that he won the election by a "landslide" and claiming that Pence had some power to undo confirmed electors is a direct affront to democracy. No matter where you stand neither of those statements are true in the slightest. That isn't a partisan move. It was a selfish move that attacked the legitimacy of all elected officials Republican, Democrat and others. He was happy to burn them all if he could cling to power. He had no leg to stand on--Dozens and dozens of court cases proved it.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       01-15-2021, 1:04 PM Reply   
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To be fair, when they objected they said it was to protest restrictive voter laws and they had no intention whatsoever of overturning the election. Biden quickly counted the electors with no debate.

Trump claiming that he won the election by a "landslide" and claiming that Pence had some power to undo confirmed electors is a direct affront to democracy. No matter where you stand neither of those statements are true in the slightest. That isn't a partisan move. It was a selfish move that attacked the legitimacy of all elected officials Republican, Democrat and others. He was happy to burn them all if he could cling to power. He had no leg to stand on--Dozens and dozens of court cases proved it.
Stop pissing in Rod’s Cheerios with your pesky facts!
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       01-15-2021, 1:50 PM Reply   
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I think the current example in Michigan is a good one. The Rep Gov and his "managers" decided the black votes dont count, so instead of listening to the voters and install the elected mayors, he placed "managers" instead of who the voters choose to represent them. The poor black folks (and white) in Flint didnt need clean water. Flint is 53% black. The white people in charge thought brown lead filled water was fine for the poor.
https://crooksandliars.com/2021/01/e...-and-others-be
Wait are you saying there could be voter fraud and peoples voices , sometimes are not heard?
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-15-2021, 2:14 PM Reply   
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The goal of BLM isnt to use violence against democracy. Antifa is anti fascism.
Were there looters and violent rioters over the summer, 100% there were. Those are criminals. They belong in jail just as the insurrectionists last Wednesday.
BLM is Marxist and regularly rioted last year. ANTIFA claims to be anti-fascist, but in reality ARE violent fascists themselves. Typical projection from your side.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       01-15-2021, 2:15 PM Reply   
Gosh now that we are being held accountable for our lies we sure are sorry for casually undermining democracy!
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Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-15-2021, 2:16 PM Reply   
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Great another republican who doesnt know if hes black, white, brown or rainbow and has no idea how to treat people. It aint that difficult.
We should be colorless, idiot and NOT treat people different because of things they can’t change like their color. Culture and behavior are a completely different matter though. You libtards only have the mental bandwidth to see color and that’s it. That’s how you draw your sick lines of “fairness.”
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-15-2021, 2:21 PM Reply   
[QUOTE=95sn;2006170]If your goal is to over throw a presidential election and retain power, what would you call it if not insurrection, sedition, a coup? If we do not trust in our elections, we have no democracy. We become Russia or your choice of S hole country.

Where was all your logic throughout the phony Russia hoax and coup attempts for the last four years?
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-15-2021, 2:51 PM Reply   
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We should be colorless, idiot and NOT treat people different because of things they can’t change like their color. Culture and behavior are a completely different matter though. You libtards only have the mental bandwidth to see color and that’s it. That’s how you draw your sick lines of “fairness.”
Ive written 2 times today how to treat people. Point out where the "Golden Rule" says to treat people different. Or are you just being angry today?
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-15-2021, 2:56 PM Reply   
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BLM is Marxist and regularly rioted last year. ANTIFA claims to be anti-fascist, but in reality ARE violent fascists themselves. Typical projection from your side.
Comprehension not a strength?
I said
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Were there looters and violent rioters over the summer, 100% there were. Those are criminals. They belong in jail just as the insurrectionists last Wednesday.
How much more than saying 100% that looted and violently rioted are roaches? What do you want? You try too hard so you can disagree.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       01-15-2021, 4:15 PM Reply   
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Comprehension not a strength?
I said

How much more than saying 100% that looted and violently rioted are roaches? What do you want? You try too hard so you can disagree.
people want to have both sides agree that this year has been a total political hit on the government, that no one would let rioting and looting occur unless its to derail a political party or candidate. Now, I dont and you don't act like what we have seen this summer or at the capital. Its wrong, both sides wrong, but when you ignore the truth and the left loved every moment of this summer, people get sick and tired of seeing the hypocrisy of our government and legislators. So when you know, with plain site, that the system is corrupt, you get tired of hearing people act like it didn't happen, WE all have eyes.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       01-15-2021, 4:24 PM Reply   
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We should be colorless, idiot and NOT treat people different because of things they can’t change like their color. Culture and behavior are a completely different matter though. You libtards only have the mental bandwidth to see color and that’s it. That’s how you draw your sick lines of “fairness.”
I thought we are colorless, 45 plus years of treating people equally and feeling this racist **** was really behind us, has now changed, being white, means being systemically racist and privileged and also racist by nature. Thats the left moving everything argumentative to race.

i though we were beyond this, ignoring trump or biden. US not them. Dont use political ponds as the population. there are bad actors on all sides. but to tell our children they are racist by nature or that black children are not equal to white children because they are black is insane. Its happening in liberal schools all over this country. terrifying for anyone who has children.

We love our children, I know each and everyone of you love your children more than anything in the world and would never let them treat anyone wrongly because of their color. period. so lets stop this, lets stop the cancel culture, and the race baiting . WE are all better than this
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       01-15-2021, 5:06 PM Reply   
instant classic

https://m.facebook.com/thedailyshow/...6262156800530/
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       01-15-2021, 5:41 PM Reply   
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instant classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzmbHlyB_JU
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       01-15-2021, 5:55 PM Reply   
Poor Tuck doesn't seem to understand how our election process works haha (and neither do you I guess, Doug)
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-15-2021, 9:56 PM Reply   
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I thought we are colorless, 45 plus years of treating people equally and feeling this racist **** was really behind us, has now changed, being white, means being systemically racist and privileged and also racist by nature. Thats the left moving everything argumentative to race.

i though we were beyond this, ignoring trump or biden. US not them. Dont use political ponds as the population. there are bad actors on all sides. but to tell our children they are racist by nature or that black children are not equal to white children because they are black is insane. Its happening in liberal schools all over this country. terrifying for anyone who has children.

We love our children, I know each and everyone of you love your children more than anything in the world and would never let them treat anyone wrongly because of their color. period. so lets stop this, lets stop the cancel culture, and the race baiting . WE are all better than this
I love and respect your idealism here. Too bad there’s no political leverage on the left that believes in any of that. You and I represent the vast majority of our side, but don’t have “the ink” that our evil counterparts have to support it. That’s how cultures crumble. We are Rome 2.0
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       01-16-2021, 3:54 AM Reply   
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BLM is Marxist and regularly rioted last year. ANTIFA claims to be anti-fascist, but in reality ARE violent fascists themselves. Typical projection from your side.
do you know what fascist even means?


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I love and respect your idealism here. Too bad there’s no political leverage on the left that believes in any of that. You and I represent the vast majority of our side, but don’t have “the ink” that our evil counterparts have to support it. That’s how cultures crumble. We are Rome 2.0
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Ayanna (another made-up-ghetto-name) Pressley
So you can't see color but look down on people for how they are named? Because everyone chooses their name.

Saying that you don't judge people by color, and then insult someone's name is really just saying that you want everyone to "act white." Don't "sound black," don't "look muslim," don't speak with a foreign accent (and heaven forbid don't ever speak a language other than English), and you will allow these folks into your club. <--- the sun is setting on white folks' power to enforce these norms on our culture, Mark.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-16-2021, 5:47 AM Reply   
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do you know what fascist even means?








So you can't see color but look down on people for how they are named? Because everyone chooses their name.

Saying that you don't judge people by color, and then insult someone's name is really just saying that you want everyone to "act white." Don't "sound black," don't "look muslim," don't speak with a foreign accent (and heaven forbid don't ever speak a language other than English), and you will allow these folks into your club. <--- the sun is setting on white folks' power to enforce these norms on our culture, Mark.
I specifically separated color from culture. Maybe consider reading things twice when you have trouble comprehending.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-16-2021, 5:52 AM Reply   
Another unsurprising idiotic piece of libtard legislation to behold. If you own a store in NY and fear for your life, too bad. You gotta take the bullet. No more vest. I guess this libtard pushing this piece thinks the bad guys will follow the law and stop wearing vests too. Only a libtard would be this mentally bankrupt to try to pass this garbage.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new...letproof-vests
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       01-16-2021, 6:10 AM Reply   
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I specifically separated color from culture. Maybe consider reading things twice when you have trouble comprehending.
So you have no problem with black folks, as long as they act like you, talk like you, name their kids Mark and Becky etc. It's not the black folks you don't like it's that they have their own culture that's different from yours. Got it. Nevermind that for black folks our age, it'd be very common for their parents and grandparents to have experienced segregation and been actively prevented from voting. That lived family experience should be forgotten because it makes you uncomfortable and you are tired of hearing about it.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-16-2021, 6:29 AM Reply   
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So you have no problem with black folks, as long as they act like you, talk like you, name their kids Mark and Becky etc. It's not the black folks you don't like it's that they have their own culture that's different from yours. Got it. Nevermind that for black folks our age, it'd be very common for their parents and grandparents to have experienced segregation and been actively prevented from voting. That lived family experience should be forgotten because it makes you uncomfortable and you are tired of hearing about it.
I think we should start handing out 40 acres and mules. Would that make you happy?

I never segregated or prevented any black from voting. Did you? I did employ one as my right hand man for over 25 years though. Far far longer than any white dudes.
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       01-16-2021, 6:45 AM Reply   
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Great post. Thank a democrat, the party of the KKK next time you see one for creating the confusion.
Wow, Delta is getting to you, Here is the Truth, Ronald Reagan the Racist left the Democratic party(along withe millions of others) in 1965 and Started his Racist beliefs of Law and Order to fix "the Jungles" as Reagan would say over and over again! He never said anything different, it's what he campaigned on to become Governor of California in the 60's and now we have Trump peddling the same Law and Order campaign OVER 50 YEARS LATER, Reagan also peddled States Rights in the 60's, which let the Southern racist States keep their oppression over the Black race, it's No wonder the white racist voters flooded to the republican party, Now today the republicans don't even hide the Fact that they Love white nationalist and even say there are "Good people" among the Nazis, this is sickening!
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       01-16-2021, 6:52 AM Reply   
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we disagree that Trump is responsible for the violence
AND
he has since come out a few times and said that there will be a peaceful transition

you might not believe it will happen, but that doesn't make it a lie
So, if Trump did Not have a rally on the Same day the electoral votes were counted, there just would have been a spontaneous riot on the Capital?
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       01-16-2021, 7:00 AM Reply   
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What are the rules. I am not a racist, I only vote for them, I have no ill will to anyone, especially based on their skin color, but Its becoming hard to tell what a racist is, who they are, and how we categorize them.
So many questions so little time. maybe we should just stop calling people racist, especially when you really dont know.
White nationalist are racist, Proud boys are racist, you know, the base of your republican party.
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       01-16-2021, 7:15 AM Reply   
The republicans also used to back the Unions until that became inconvenient for them, another reason voters flipped from one party to the other!
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Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       01-16-2021, 7:40 AM Reply   
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Great another republican who doesnt know if hes black, white, brown or rainbow and has no idea how to treat people. It aint that difficult.
The only people with identity issues are the left . Buckle up because gender no longer exists like human rights.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...and-bathrooms/



The idea that an eight-year-old child, a ten-year-old child, decides, you know, ‘I want to be transgender.’ That’s what I think I’d like to be. It’d make my life a lot easier,’” the future president said. “There should be zero discrimination.


Right cuz 8 yrs olds know what they want and are. Gtfoh. The only reason this exist is lack of parenting or whackos enabling their children to fit in with a fad . Scary times on the move.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       01-16-2021, 7:46 AM Reply   
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White nationalist are racist, Proud boys are racist, you know, the base of your republican party.
OMG, not the base the whole, entire country is racist. all white people are by nature, remember, if you are born white, you are racist. period. thats the new rules. so anyone who votes for a white person is now a racists. Now you may not be white, so that means you are not.

I so appreciate the left explaining the "truth"on white power, the evil white man, the Joe Biden is a racist. Remember busing? VP Kammy was one of the first black children Joe Biden deliberately went after, Kammy said it, she said it, so its the "word of god"

I am no longer white, I decided I feel hispanic, and you know that you cant tell me how I feel, and you can now change your race or gender at any given moment. so thank you for that too!

Just trying to get my social security moving, as I feel 65, you dont have to be 65, just feel 65 and its all good now!
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-16-2021, 9:17 AM Reply   
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The only people with identity issues are the left . Buckle up because gender no longer exists like human rights.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...and-bathrooms/



The idea that an eight-year-old child, a ten-year-old child, decides, you know, ‘I want to be transgender.’ That’s what I think I’d like to be. It’d make my life a lot easier,’” the future president said. “There should be zero discrimination.


Right cuz 8 yrs olds know what they want and are. Gtfoh. The only reason this exist is lack of parenting or whackos enabling their children to fit in with a fad . Scary times on the move.
Like I told mark and doug 2 times already. It isnt that difficult. Just use the Golden rule, like you were taught in grade school, bible study or where ever else it is taught. Treat people like you want to be treated, its that simple. Is there a problem with that? Why do you, mark and doug have so much trouble interacting with others? You folks seem awful confused. Lack of parenting?
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       01-16-2021, 12:30 PM Reply   
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OMG, not the base the whole, entire country is racist. all white people are by nature, remember, if you are born white, you are racist. period. thats the new rules. so anyone who votes for a white person is now a racists. Now you may not be white, so that means you are not.

I so appreciate the left explaining the "truth"on white power, the evil white man, the Joe Biden is a racist. Remember busing? VP Kammy was one of the first black children Joe Biden deliberately went after, Kammy said it, she said it, so its the "word of god"

I am no longer white, I decided I feel hispanic, and you know that you cant tell me how I feel, and you can now change your race or gender at any given moment. so thank you for that too!

Just trying to get my social security moving, as I feel 65, you dont have to be 65, just feel 65 and its all good now!
This is America, greatest country ever! You can be whatever you want to be, God bless America!
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-16-2021, 1:10 PM Reply   
I've got to agree with doug and mark here, the identity politics concept is so toxic, white guilt, white privilege and the impossible purity tests which body can pass is not the way to create equality in my opinion.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       01-16-2021, 2:29 PM Reply   
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Like I told mark and doug 2 times already. It isnt that difficult. Just use the Golden rule, like you were taught in grade school, bible study or where ever else it is taught. Treat people like you want to be treated, its that simple. Is there a problem with that? Why do you, mark and doug have so much trouble interacting with others? You folks seem awful confused. Lack of parenting?
Your mean the golden rule regarding the science of genetics ? The very factual scientific reason male and female sports are separated ? Or do you mean the golden rule that your birth certificate determines your sex? Or maybe it’s the golden rule that there are two distinct sexes ?


Gender identity issues are a disorder , period end of story , should be treated as such . Your feelings don’t determine your actual physical identity..........your DNA does , and when it comes to sports and things that deal primarily with the physiology , muscle , and bone structure, you again follow science and physical attributes. Any parent, or adult that thinks their 8 year old is mature enough to decide that is an idiot.


Interact with over 100 people daily with no issues while you’re locked in your basement wearing 3 masks. I give two ****s if some dude wants to wear female clothes, play dress up , and feels like a female on its own accord. At the end of the day it’s still a dude . When that feeling starts entering domains of actual science it’s needs to be put in its place. Why is it so wrong to forbid a dude with a ******* from playing on all female sports teams or being part of an all female sporting program. Why do 20 female athletes have to have forced acceptance and be put at a disadvantage because an individual took a different path they chose on their own ?
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       01-16-2021, 2:53 PM Reply   
Can we do this "I don't see color" thing with religion too? No more catholics vs. baptists vs. mormons vs. shia vs. sunni? All one people collectively dilluding themselves?
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-16-2021, 4:06 PM Reply   
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Your mean the golden rule regarding the science of genetics ? The very factual scientific reason male and female sports are separated ? Or do you mean the golden rule that your birth certificate determines your sex? Or maybe it’s the golden rule that there are two distinct sexes ?


Gender identity issues are a disorder , period end of story , should be treated as such . Your feelings don’t determine your actual physical identity..........your DNA does , and when it comes to sports and things that deal primarily with the physiology , muscle , and bone structure, you again follow science and physical attributes. Any parent, or adult that thinks their 8 year old is mature enough to decide that is an idiot.


Interact with over 100 people daily with no issues while you’re locked in your basement wearing 3 masks. I give two ****s if some dude wants to wear female clothes, play dress up , and feels like a female on its own accord. At the end of the day it’s still a dude . When that feeling starts entering domains of actual science it’s needs to be put in its place. Why is it so wrong to forbid a dude with a ******* from playing on all female sports teams or being part of an all female sporting program. Why do 20 female athletes have to have forced acceptance and be put at a disadvantage because an individual took a different path they chose on their own ?
For someone who doesnt give two ****s you sure cant shut up about it. Im talking about the golden rule where you treat others as you would like to be treated. Where is the issue? Whats your prob with people that are different than you? Are you trying to compete in the Police Olympics and keep getting beat by a they or a girl? Its ok if you want to cross dress. I dont give 3 ****s. Why do you care so much about others and their choice of sex or gender. You seem hung up on others perception of their own sexuality, not sure how it affects you. In case it matters, i dont think they do it to get on your nerves. Its got to be more difficult to navigate thru life feeling uncomfortable and different than most others. I dont see the need to make them feel worse, id assume they have high suicide rates.
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       01-17-2021, 8:23 AM Reply   
https://twitter.com/TXAG/status/1350...Mxq4FMZpub-HL0
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-17-2021, 9:18 AM Reply   
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Like I told mark and doug 2 times already. It isnt that difficult. Just use the Golden rule, like you were taught in grade school, bible study or where ever else it is taught. Treat people like you want to be treated, its that simple. Is there a problem with that? Why do you, mark and doug have so much trouble interacting with others? You folks seem awful confused. Lack of parenting?
Projection. Your most frequent habit here. The Golden Rule used to be taught in schools. Not any more since libtards took over the teaching trade. Now, it’s all about “me.” “My truth” “my happiness” “making ME feel good about MYSELF” etc etc. Thirty+ years ago, as an apprentice, I remember working on a ghetto school, hearing the lyrics of “The Greatest Love of All” being taught to little ghetto kids in the classroom. I knew those kids were doomed right away. What a fallacy! That is what’s taught now to young children. It’s all about “getting what’s due to you.” First, they divide and then they assign a value to you and then you get “what’s yours” depending on your value to them. Totally evil, corrupt democrats.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-17-2021, 9:23 AM Reply   
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I've got to agree with doug and mark here, the identity politics concept is so toxic, white guilt, white privilege and the impossible purity tests which body can pass is not the way to create equality in my opinion.
It’s the gas to the motor of class warfare. Democrats need it to fuel their evil. If they pit people against each other, they can “come to the rescue” and level the field that they themselves made uneven. R’s don’t pull that evil bullwake77. Their philosophy is a rising tide raises all ships.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-17-2021, 9:28 AM Reply   
You may want to research who Ken Paxton is and the charges against him before you use him as a source. You have Ken Paxton, Project Veritas and Newsmax, a conspiracy theory trifecta. Confirmation bias...
Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs or values. People tend to unconsciously select information that supports their views, but ignore non-supportive or contradicting information. People also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position. The effect is strongest for desired outcomes, for emotionally charged issues, and for deeply entrenched beliefs.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-17-2021, 9:31 AM Reply   
So what’s with the Kung flu shutdowns being dissolved right as Trump is leaving? We just had our most deadly day a few days ago! So much for “following the science.” Us R’s all knew it was a democrat plot to kill the economy to hurt Trump anyway. What’s most amazing is the number of sheep that voted for dems while literally watching themselves being harmed by dem policies in real time! Amazing! Nuclear corruption combined with nuclear ignorance. This is 100% MSM supported and promoted too. They are responsible for literally 80% of it.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       01-17-2021, 9:58 AM Reply   
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So what’s with the Kung flu shutdowns being dissolved right as Trump is leaving? We just had our most deadly day a few days ago! So much for “following the science.” Us R’s all knew it was a democrat plot to kill the economy to hurt Trump anyway. What’s most amazing is the number of sheep that voted for dems while literally watching themselves being harmed by dem policies in real time! Amazing! Nuclear corruption combined with nuclear ignorance. This is 100% MSM supported and promoted too. They are responsible for literally 80% of it.
ITs crazy, now Cuomo says, "we cant stay shut down any longer, there will be nothing left" He should and NY should have to stay closed down, people need to eat this **** sandwich they voting for. But its not fair to the poor people being clobbered by their political hacks they voted into office.

Its really terrifying that they can flip the narrative over night, and more scary is those who blindly follow these idiots and never question the sheer hypocrisy that is in plain sight.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-17-2021, 10:02 AM Reply   
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So what’s with the Kung flu shutdowns being dissolved right as Trump is leaving? We just had our most deadly day a few days ago! So much for “following the science.” Us R’s all knew it was a democrat plot to kill the economy to hurt Trump anyway. What’s most amazing is the number of sheep that voted for dems while literally watching themselves being harmed by dem policies in real time! Amazing! Nuclear corruption combined with nuclear ignorance. This is 100% MSM supported and promoted too. They are responsible for literally 80% of it.
Where is the easing of lockdowns?
"Us R's all with nuclear ignorance" FIFY
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-17-2021, 10:15 AM Reply   
Ny & ka.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-17-2021, 10:16 AM Reply   
Among others. Again, so much for “following the science.” F’ing liars. All of you libtards. What these governors have done is nothing different than an act of war.
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       01-17-2021, 10:23 AM Reply   
thanks 95. I am aware of Paxton. I live in Texas.
You could be handed a smoking gun, and insist that it isn't a gun.

Plenty of evidence of voter fraud, It's written off as "not enough to change the outcome". But why is that okay? It's not

again....we will never agree
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       01-17-2021, 11:28 AM Reply   
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thanks 95. I am aware of Paxton. I live in Texas.
You could be handed a smoking gun, and insist that it isn't a gun.

Plenty of evidence of voter fraud, It's written off as "not enough to change the outcome". But why is that okay? It's not

again....we will never agree
Plenty of evidence yet Trump’s lawyers never took any of it to court to prove fraud. Yeah, that really adds up.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-17-2021, 12:07 PM Reply   
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thanks 95. I am aware of Paxton. I live in Texas.
You could be handed a smoking gun, and insist that it isn't a gun.

Plenty of evidence of voter fraud, It's written off as "not enough to change the outcome". But why is that okay? It's not

again....we will never agree
It isnt ok, no voter fraud allowed, thats why those who do are arrested. I agree 100%. You think that lady changed the outcome of an election? Did they arrest her?
Im hesitant to listen to an AG under several state and federal indictments. One who his own staff turned him in. Thats not all, he is under indictment for securities fraud too. He is the clown who sued and immediately lost in the SC, suing several states in one of the most unhinged lawsuits in history.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ump-loses.html

Most figure he did it to get a pardon from trump. He also refused to sign on with 50 other AG's to condemn the Trump insurgence on the 6th.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/te...ol/ar-BB1cJhD0

When you use an indicted AG looking for a trump pardon as your source, reasonable people can assume he may be biased. 50 other AG's think the capitol riot was a bad idea, not your source. Bad choice Cliff.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-17-2021, 12:15 PM Reply   
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Ny & ka.
How Blue is KA?
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Ka as in Ca. Blue as the sky.
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Ka as in Ca. Blue as the sky.
California is a big place. LA has the worst covid death rate in the country now, no one is going back to biz as usual for a while. Up north things may be different, good to open up if numbers are good. We still have several months til the vaccines are in most arms.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       01-17-2021, 5:18 PM Reply   
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thanks 95. I am aware of Paxton. I live in Texas.
You could be handed a smoking gun, and insist that it isn't a gun.

Plenty of evidence of voter fraud, It's written off as "not enough to change the outcome". But why is that okay? It's not

again....we will never agree

Why not concede if the provable fraud is not sufficient to change the results?

Fraud is bad, sure. But we don’t throw out the IRS because some people cheat on their taxes and Walmart stays open even though there will always be shoplifters.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-17-2021, 5:34 PM Reply   
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Why not concede if the provable fraud is not sufficient to change the results?

Fraud is bad, sure. But we don’t throw out the IRS because some people cheat on their taxes and Walmart stays open even though there will always be shoplifters.
Thats a great point. If trump wanted to stop the violence and help the country heal, all he has to do is tell the truth. Tell them he didnt win by a landslide, that Joe Biden is the freely elected winner and president elect, that he made up the wide spread fraud claims. Think he will do it? Or does he like this?
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For someone who doesnt give two ****s you sure cant shut up about it. Im talking about the golden rule where you treat others as you would like to be treated. Where is the issue? Whats your prob with people that are different than you? Are you trying to compete in the Police Olympics and keep getting beat by a they or a girl? Its ok if you want to cross dress. I dont give 3 ****s. Why do you care so much about others and their choice of sex or gender. You seem hung up on others perception of their own sexuality, not sure how it affects you. In case it matters, i dont think they do it to get on your nerves. Its got to be more difficult to navigate thru life feeling uncomfortable and different than most others. I dont see the need to make them feel worse, id assume they have high suicide rates.
I know your old, feeble , and have no view of the actual real world that’s beyond the walls of your house and safe space , but there are millions of student athletes across the Nation that would be effected negatively by these absurd forced policies. Your ignorance to the fact speaks volumes about your narrow mind.


So you no problem with a 13yr old boy being naked in the showers or changing in the lockerooms with a team full of 13yr old girls?
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       01-17-2021, 11:04 PM Reply   
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Why not concede if the provable fraud is not sufficient to change the results?

Fraud is bad, sure. But we don’t throw out the IRS because some people cheat on their taxes and Walmart stays open even though there will always be shoplifters.
Actually we do throw out the laws under the IRS if you’re a connected. Politician.

Plenty of stores close because of shoplifter problems. In fact over 10 high end stores have closed up shop on the mag mile of Chicago because theft has gotten so rampant they can’t afford to stay open with inventory. Gucci , Prada , and Louis Vitton to name a few. Had they taken the proper steps to address the theft at the the beginning stages , it woulda prevented the daily mass thefts they experienced later on they could no longer control.


The best time to address issues is when they acre in the beginning phases. It’s much harder to roll back things as the grow. With that said we are way past the beginning stages of voter fraud as I wrote this post.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-18-2021, 7:48 AM Reply   
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California is a big place. LA has the worst covid death rate in the country now, no one is going back to biz as usual for a while. Up north things may be different, good to open up if numbers are good. We still have several months til the vaccines are in most arms.
Just like Cuomo, Gov. Nuisance can feel the heat of the recall on the back of that turkey neck of his. There have been countless restaurants open with big signs outside stating they’re open for a long time now. Four months ago, they were speakeasies, but now, they’re advertising their middle fingers up at Gov. Nuisance. No one respects that typical democrat hypocrite.

Besides severe TDS, I can’t think of a reason to shuttle outdoor dining-which would have salvaged many restaurants. I mean, they allow you to sit in a confined plane, 2 feet away from total strangers for 5 hours, but you can’t sit 10 feet away for an hour outdoors. That’s some democrat logic.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-18-2021, 8:38 AM Reply   
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I know your old, feeble , and have no view of the actual real world that’s beyond the walls of your house and safe space , but there are millions of student athletes across the Nation that would be effected negatively by these absurd forced policies. Your ignorance to the fact speaks volumes about your narrow mind.


So you no problem with a 13yr old boy being naked in the showers or changing in the lockerooms with a team full of 13yr old girls?
Hey! Who you calling old? Appreciate you standing up for those millions of student athletes.
Wasnt it trump who decided it was ok to go backstage at a beauty pageant?
“I’ll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed,” Trump told Stern.

“No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it. … ‘Is everyone OK?' You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible-looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.” FYI, he wasnt 13.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-18-2021, 9:15 AM Reply   
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Hey! Who you calling old? Appreciate you standing up for those millions of student athletes.
Wasnt it trump who decided it was ok to go backstage at a beauty pageant?
“I’ll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed,” Trump told Stern.

“No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it. … ‘Is everyone OK?' You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible-looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.” FYI, he wasnt 13.
Congratulations. You just opened our eyes to the fact that Trump is a pig of a man. Woulda never known if it wasn't for you.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       01-18-2021, 10:38 AM Reply   
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Hey! Who you calling old? Appreciate you standing up for those millions of student athletes.
Wasnt it trump who decided it was ok to go backstage at a beauty pageant?
“I’ll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed,” Trump told Stern.

“No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it. … ‘Is everyone OK?' You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible-looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.” FYI, he wasnt 13.
so funny, so you agree its wrong. great news, lets try a few more things. maybe we can make some moral progress.

Is it ok to shoot Heroin on the streets, in front of a school yard. OR should that be illegal?
IS it ok to let criminals out of jail because they are illegal immigrants? Although legal citizens have to for their time?
Should you be allowed to get a hair cut instead of rioting in the street for 3 months on end?

Should i keep going?
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       01-18-2021, 10:58 AM Reply   
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Does the continued association ever get brought up and used against them at trial?
No just like their prior criminal acts they’ve been arrested for can’t be brought up either . No wonder you have the warped views of Leo’s and the justice system you do. You have no clue how it actually works. Go figure.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       01-18-2021, 11:06 AM Reply   
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California is a big place. LA has the worst covid death rate in the country now, no one is going back to biz as usual for a while. Up north things may be different, good to open up if numbers are good. We still have several months til the vaccines are in most arms.
Maybe they need 15 months more of lockdowns to flatten the curve ? 20 ?? I mean it’s working so well !!!! Maybe they should just institute martial law and lock everyone in their basement for a month?
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