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Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-21-2020, 10:47 AM Reply   
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Yeah you can Doug. https://www.investopedia.com/how-to-...th-ira-4584775

The loophole was intentionally left open in the TCAJA.



I'm surprised that you think the last time it was fair was the waning days of the Clinton admin?
I stated the last 20 years have not been fair. its been painful. and frustrating. Its now getting out of control. all of this stupidity. My income does not change my roots. I did not grow up with a silver spoon. I did it on my own. we were dirty poor. most of my fam still is. and we help them too. there is a fix, its simple. live to your means, and work to better yourself. help others, within reason, and hold people to a higher standard. Everyone wants to keep lower the bar. the system wants the few to pay for the many, That does not work.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-21-2020, 10:48 AM Reply   
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I have never tried to fight the system, never got on my pedestal and screamed NOT FAIR, but when my attorney and advisor is telling me to prepare to move my assets into a trust, for my children, sell it for a dollar and create a living control agreements. its kinda scary.

No one know what the future holds, but I dont want to cheat, never have, and always have had a soft heart to help people. all people! Its starting to look like the time to HELP ME. stop carrying the water for others, as others dont want to carry their own water.
backdoor roth isn't cheating, it's just a two step procedure. Contribute to trad-IRA, immediately convert said trad-IRA to Roth.

(won't work if you already have a trad-ira with a balance, but usually you can roll that into a 401k to zero it out first)
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       10-21-2020, 11:05 AM Reply   
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The article says "IF" N. Dakota was a country, it would have the worst... Just look at pos per 1,000,000. North Dakota reported the most COVID-19 cases and deaths per capita in the nation over the last week.
When you test you are using science. The players were on a different "plan" than all the hotel workers, they went home every night. The point was that by following the science, they were successful. To think that we cant learn from that experience is just not thinking. To say it doesnt work is juvenile. A closed mind is one who doesnt think masking and distancing works. A closed mind is one who thinks less of someone because they are wearing a mask. A closed mind is someone who thinks a mask wearer is afraid.
Reading is helpful, deaths ARE included...from the article...
"October is North Dakota’s deadliest month by far with now 422 victims who have succumbed to COVID-19, according to the state.
You know what else is helpful , reading all the details and posting ALL THE FACTS .

“This pandemic remains a threat. Nationally, 2.9% of reported COVID-19 cases have resulted in death. While that percentage is just over 1% in North Dakota

Positivity rate is nothing without an attached death rate. It’s a pure scare tactic one of which you’ve grown accustomed to spew. What’s the death rate in Commmiefornia ? It’s hovering around 2%. They’re one of the the most strict In the nation with millions of basement dwellers like yourself. North Dakota is the complete opposite , yet their death rate is half. South Dakota death rate 1% as well. Tell me about that science again? Tell me how the lockdowns are so advantageous!

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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-21-2020, 12:27 PM Reply   
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What’s the death rate in Commmiefornia ? It’s hovering around 2%. They’re one of the the most strict In the nation with millions of basement dwellers like yourself. North Dakota is the complete opposite , yet their death rate is half. South Dakota death rate 1% as well. Tell me about that science again? Tell me how the lockdowns are so advantageous!
How does a lock down change the deathrate?
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-21-2020, 1:06 PM Reply   
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Federal personal income from STOLEN documents is not a viable link. It was done by someone with an agenda.
You don't have to STEAL fake documents. You might have to STEAL to get the real ones.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       10-21-2020, 2:19 PM Reply   
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How does a lock down change the deathrate?
You should probably be more concerned about your own country’s policies leading to deaths of infants than ours. Those policies seem logical.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...ns%3f_amp=true


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc...ticle/12784774
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-21-2020, 2:22 PM Reply   
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You should probably be more concerned about your own country’s policies leading to deaths of infants than ours. Those policies seem logical.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...ns%3f_amp=true


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc...ticle/12784774
You should have paid attention in Geography class.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       10-21-2020, 6:32 PM Reply   
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You should have paid attention in Geography class.
All this time I thought you lived on a big island. Now come to find out you live in a country the size of a state. Makes your comments on our government comparing them to yours even more laughable.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       10-21-2020, 6:38 PM Reply   
This is the pandemic in Illinois in a nutshell. With Governor Putzker threatening to rollback the state to stage 2 by Election Day.


Wow. Seems like we are so overwhelmed. Hospitals have closed down extra wings , all the surplus ventilators are not even counted in the below data. Neither are the planned hospital extensions that we spent millions on getting ready that never saw a body.

Clearly the science and stats paint the picture of a pandemic ! OH WAIT......... THEY ACTUALLY PROVE THE OPPOSITE. SHUT DOWN THE STATE AND BLAME TRUMP !!!!!!!!!!

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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-21-2020, 8:18 PM Reply   
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All this time I thought you lived on a big island. Now come to find out you live in a country the size of a state. Makes your comments on our government comparing them to yours even more laughable.
And your constance display of ignorance makes you laughable.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-21-2020, 8:54 PM Reply   
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And your constance display of ignorance makes you laughable.
Be careful. we could all have a "release your fluorocarbon Day" and raise the water level. and NZ is gone. SPLASH! Just like Al Gore said florida would be under water by 2020. Maybe NZ will be? You know that global warming issue. I would think most other countries would be most concerned with China and india and all the extreme dumpsters, but no, its much easier to Hate the States, as we are the leaders in... well just about everything, but not pollution. Funny how this works.

Oh, I took the fam to disney land, in 2019, just to be safe, as Al Won a Nobel for his accurate work

I do have one question you could answer accurately, does your toilet flush counter clockwise? lol
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-22-2020, 2:28 AM Reply   
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And your constance display of ignorance makes you laughable.
Not to mention that most everything he complains about is in a state the size of a state.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-22-2020, 2:32 AM Reply   
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...its much easier to Hate the States...
It strikes me that he has a particular love of the states, as evidenced by his concern about the rotten apple in the WH.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 3:08 AM Reply   
Dems took their ball and went home for the senate vote for our next justice. Lol such babies.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 3:10 AM Reply   
Hey libtards, wanna try to spin this? Please explain how Joe “the big guy” Biden is gonna weasel out of this. Maybe he can shoot Hunter’s partner in the leg?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...e-biden-advice
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 3:12 AM Reply   
Daddy’s little angel.
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Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 3:13 AM Reply   
Lol
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Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 3:16 AM Reply   
Buh bye, Joe!
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jim...e-key-contacts
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-22-2020, 4:07 AM Reply   
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so I dont know what you think income is, but 100k is chump change for a doctor, or anyone who wants to live a moderate life.
You know the medium wage in the US is $34k right?
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-22-2020, 4:10 AM Reply   
Shawndoggy, did you see in the 60 mins interview which trump snowflaked out of he restated that he wanted SCOTUS to invalidate Obamacare?
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-22-2020, 4:14 AM Reply   
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You know the medium wage in the US is $34k right?
You have no idea how much different living in the coastal state vs the midwest. In Kalifornia, if you make under $100,000 as a family, you qualify for housing assistance if you are trying to buy a home.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-22-2020, 4:20 AM Reply   
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So you are saying that there's one set of rules for regular folks, and another set of rules for folks who are "LLC'd all over"? That seems fair to you? Just like the framers intended?



This is totally a fair point. When the dems had control of both houses and the white house they did get Obamacare through, but it took all of their political capital to get that done.

Same can be said for Trump, right? His signature legislative achievement being the TCAJA?

ANY administration really has a shot at getting one big signature piece of legislation through these days. Is tax code reform the thing that a Biden admin would bite off? Not sure, frankly. Though it is one of the few "doable" things that's possible with less than a filibuster proof majority in the senate, by way of the reconciliation process (again, see TCAJA).
Well, it turns out that you and Wes are either A) simpletons B) Lying political hacks or C) Simpletons who takes anything said by the democrat party as fact.

Turns out the reason Trump "paid only $750" in taxes, is he had prepaid taxes and that was the bill. He actually paid $5.2 million in taxes. He had filed extensions for 16 and 17 but had prepaid to avoid penalties. When the bill came in, it was less and then carried it over. When that bill came in, he only owed $750.

You guys are so fing stupid or dangerous. I vote both. When you steal something, you should either steal the all the documents or maybe you should not listen to people who do not know what they are talking about or even better use you fing head. I thought you had a head on your shoulders which leads me to you are simple lying political hacks.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-22-2020, 4:24 AM Reply   
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You need to include titles:

Harris, prominent Democrats listed as 'key contacts' for Biden family business venture projects

A list of “key domestic contacts” for a joint venture involving Jim and Hunter Biden and now-bankrupt CEFC China Energy Co. included former Vice President Joe Biden's current running mate Sen. Kamala Harris, among other prominent Democrats, Fox News has learned.

An email exclusively obtained by Fox News, with the subject line “Phase one domestic contacts/ projects” and dated May 15, 2017, Biden’s brother, Jim Biden, shared a list of “key domestic contacts for phase one target projects.”

The email is unrelated to the laptop or hard drive purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden, the former vice president's son.

READ THE EMAIL HERE.

The list, included Harris, D-Calif.; Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.; Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn.; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y.; New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo; New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio; former Virginia Gov. Terry McCauliffe, among others.

It is unclear if any of the Democrats were ever contacted about the “target projects.”
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-22-2020, 4:27 AM Reply   
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You also need to include that Hunters business partner is now going as a witness and turning over all key documents now:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...e-biden-advice

Hunter Biden business partner calls email 'genuine,' says Hunter sought dad's advice on deals

Tony Bobulinski, who was listed as the recipient of an email published by the New York Post that appeared to detail a business arrangement involving a Chinese company and members of the Biden family, has confirmed that the email is "genuine" and provided more information regarding the Bidens' role in the deal.

The email includes a note that “Hunter has some office expectations he will elaborate.” A proposed equity split references “20” for “H” and “10 held by H for the big guy?” with no further details.

"The reference to 'the Big Guy' in the much publicized May 13, 2017 email is in fact a reference to Joe Biden," Bobulinski said in a statement to Fox News.

Bobulinski said he is the CEO of Sinohawk Holdings, which he explained "was a partnership between the Chinese operating through CEFC/Chairman Ye and the Biden family." He said he was brought on as CEO by Hunter Biden and James Gilliar, who was listed as the sender of the email.

Bobulinski went on to say he does not believe Joe Biden's past claim that he and Hunter did not discuss his son Hunter's business, claiming that Hunter "frequently referenced asking him for his sign-off or advice on various potential deals."

"I’ve seen Vice President Biden saying he never talked to Hunter about his business. I’ve seen firsthand that that’s not true, because it wasn’t just Hunter’s business, they said they were putting the Biden family name and its legacy on the line," Bobulinski said.
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-22-2020, 6:35 AM Reply   
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Actually I am correct. The Swastika has been around way longer than the Socialistc Democrats in your picture.
You want to see democrats in action in America, here is a non photo shopped image.

If you want the video of your fellow democrats:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...tions-capital/
Don't know much about history, do you?
Yes, that picture looks like about 1912, when all democrats were racist, in fact you could not get elected as a democrat unless you showed your kkk card, but by 1964, the Democrats past the civil rights law and on that day the racist left the democratic party and joined Your republican party who are about all racist because they put the racist Donald Trump in office and back his racist policies like voter suppression which you back 100%
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-22-2020, 7:18 AM Reply   
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At least wait for Biden to get elected before dialing up the BDS.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-22-2020, 7:25 AM Reply   
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Shawndoggy, did you see in the 60 mins interview which trump snowflaked out of he restated that he wanted SCOTUS to invalidate Obamacare?

He wants lots of stuff. I still don’t see the court doing it.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-22-2020, 7:27 AM Reply   
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Well, it turns out that you and Wes are either A) simpletons B) Lying political hacks or C) Simpletons who takes anything said by the democrat party as fact.

Turns out the reason Trump "paid only $750" in taxes, is he had prepaid taxes and that was the bill. He actually paid $5.2 million in taxes. He had filed extensions for 16 and 17 but had prepaid to avoid penalties. When the bill came in, it was less and then carried it over. When that bill came in, he only owed $750.

You guys are so fing stupid or dangerous. I vote both. When you steal something, you should either steal the all the documents or maybe you should not listen to people who do not know what they are talking about or even better use you fing head. I thought you had a head on your shoulders which leads me to you are simple lying political hacks.

Link?
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-22-2020, 7:28 AM Reply   
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Turns out the reason Trump "paid only $750" in taxes, is he had prepaid taxes and that was the bill. He actually paid $5.2 million in taxes. He had filed extensions for 16 and 17 but had prepaid to avoid penalties. When the bill came in, it was less and then carried it over. When that bill came in, he only owed $750.
That's not an accurate way to describe it, the $750 he pays comes out of the $5.2m he pre paid in 2016. ie he still has $5.19m credit waiting to be used up over the next years. So no, he only paid $750 in tax, it's his own dumb fault if he sent them that much money before getting his weasels to cook the books.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-22-2020, 7:29 AM Reply   
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Link?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...me-tax-decade/
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-22-2020, 7:31 AM Reply   
Wasn’t trump’s whole pitch in 2016 that he is an outsider gazillionaire who doesn’t need other people’s’ money to run for President? Why is the media reporting that his campaign is running on fumes? Surely he will open his own wallet to spend what he needs to to MAGA?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/22/u...gtype=Homepage
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-22-2020, 7:54 AM Reply   
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Wasn’t trump’s whole pitch in 2016 that he is an outsider gazillionaire who doesn’t need other people’s’ money to run for President? Why is the media reporting that his campaign is running on fumes? Surely he will open his own wallet to spend what he needs to to MAGA?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/22/u...gtype=Homepage
Yeah along with build the wall, lock her up and replace obamacare . Promises made, promises kept. Or something.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 8:13 AM Reply   
Funny how you libtards have no answer for “the big guy’s“ deals with the crack head leach. A day or two ago, Wes was trying to lie and say it was the Russians. Then it was they won’t even dignify the story by responding. That makes it two Russian hoaxes and now stonewalling from you A-holes now.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 8:17 AM Reply   
So, was it the Russians who broke into Hunter’s bathroom and got the pic of him in the tub while making it look like a selfie? Lol Damn Russians... Hey, maybe Hunter’s partner is a Russian operative...
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 8:24 AM Reply   
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Don't know much about history, do you?
Yes, that picture looks like about 1912, when all democrats were racist, in fact you could not get elected as a democrat unless you showed your kkk card, but by 1964, the Democrats past the civil rights law and on that day the racist left the democratic party and joined Your republican party who are about all racist because they put the racist Donald Trump in office and back his racist policies like voter suppression which you back 100%
I’m still trying to figure out whether you’re more wrong or more stupid. How much prison reform did ole Bathhouse Barry get done? What was unemployment for all darkies like when Big Mike was First Lady compared to Trump Daddy? Your slave-tradin leadership screwed the pooch and only paid lip service to those groups while in office... unless you count more people on food stamps as a good thing...
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 8:28 AM Reply   
...and the walls come crumbling down... queue the Jaws music... dun dun dun dun... dun dun dun dun...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...-biden-meeting
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 8:47 AM Reply   
Trump drops the hammer and scoops Lesbian Stahl. Lol lol lol! Whether you like Trump or not, you gotta give him credit for having the balls to punch the libtard media in the mouth hard, knock some teeth out and walk away like a boss.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/elect...7ji-story.html
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-22-2020, 9:20 AM Reply   
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...and the walls come crumbling down... queue the Jaws music... dun dun dun dun... dun dun dun dun...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...-biden-meeting
“Mrng plse let me knw if we will do early dinner w your Uncle & dad and where, also for document translation do you want it simple Chinese or traditional?” Bobulinski texted Hunter Biden on May 2, 2017.

“Not sure on dinner yet and whatever is the most common for a Chinese legal DOC,” Hunter Biden replied.

“Chinese legal docs can be both, i’ll make it traditional,” Bobulinski said.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-22-2020, 9:30 AM Reply   
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Don't know much about history, do you?
Yes, that picture looks like about 1912, when all democrats were racist, in fact you could not get elected as a democrat unless you showed your kkk card, but by 1964, the Democrats past the civil rights law and on that day the racist left the democratic party and joined Your republican party who are about all racist because they put the racist Donald Trump in office and back his racist policies like voter suppression which you back 100%
Yes. Voters magically started to support the clan when democrats passed a bill in the 1960's. Is that why democrats voted in a KKK grand wizard into office every year until 2010? You mean in 1964 when Johnson said he would have those N#%%ers voting democrat for the next 200 years? You mean those racists left the party?


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lb...ng-democratic/

There’s no question that Lyndon Johnson, despite championing the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 and signing it into law, was also a sometime racist and notorious vulgarian who rarely shied away from using the N-word in private. For example, he reportedly referred to the Civil Rights Act of 1957 as the “****** bill” in more than one private phone conversation with Senate colleagues. And he reportedly said upon appointing African-American judge Thurgood Marshall to the Supreme Court, “Son, when I appoint a n%gger to the court, I want everyone to know he’s a ******.”

Or how about this quote from your 1960's racial champion:

These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again.

Or this:

In Senate cloakrooms and staff meetings, Johnson was practically a connoisseur of the word. According to Johnson biographer Robert Caro, Johnson would calibrate his pronunciations by region, using “nigra” with some southern legislators and “negra” with others. Discussing civil rights legislation with men like Mississippi Democrat James Eastland, who committed most of his life to defending white supremacy, he’d simply call it “the n%gger bill.”

and how about this for those so called racists magically leaving the party:

As long as you are black, and you’re gonna be black till the day you die, no one’s gonna call you by your goddamn name. So no matter what you are called, ******, you just let it roll off your back like water, and you’ll make it. Just pretend you’re a goddamn piece of furniture.

And to the very point and the reasoning and rational of all you racist evil envy brokering democrats to this very single day is this:

Johnson, like other presidents, would often reveal his true motivations in asides that the press never picked up. During one trip, Johnson was discussing his proposed civil rights bill with two governors. Explaining why it was so important to him, he said it was simple: “I’ll have them ******s voting Democratic for two hundred years.”

“That was the reason he was pushing the bill,” said MacMillan, who was present during the conversation. “Not because he wanted equality for everyone. It was strictly a political ploy for the Democratic party. He was phony from the word go.”
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-22-2020, 9:37 AM Reply   
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That's not an accurate way to describe it, the $750 he pays comes out of the $5.2m he pre paid in 2016. ie he still has $5.19m credit waiting to be used up over the next years. So no, he only paid $750 in tax, it's his own dumb fault if he sent them that much money before getting his weasels to cook the books.
Uh huh. People just put 5.2 million to the feds just so they don't have to worry about $750 a year in taxes? We were born on a day, but not yesterday.

Did he do anything illegal? Why does he get write offs? Aren't write offs losses on investment into the social system? government does not give write offs for nothing. They are trying to form some sort of spending habit within people and companies.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-22-2020, 9:59 AM Reply   
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Did he do anything illegal? Why does he get write offs? Aren't write offs losses on investment into the social system? government does not give write offs for nothing. They are trying to form some sort of spending habit within people and companies.
I ask you this, is it equitable that a billionaire pays $750 a year in tax when the average joe on 50k a year pays much more. If your answer is no, is it good governance to have first hand knowledge of this inequity and do nothing to change it when you are the most powerful person on the planet. Or even worse change the tax code to make it easier for more high income earners to have similar loop holes.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-22-2020, 10:00 AM Reply   
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Uh huh. People just put 5.2 million to the feds just so they don't have to worry about $750 a year in taxes?
Loosen up your tinfoil hat, he didn't pay $5.2m to the feds.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       10-22-2020, 11:03 AM Reply   
The tax returns are not about how little Trump paid. It's about what a ****ty businessman he is lol - and the fact that he's hundreds of millions in debt to unknown sources. But a blow job is what REALLY makes a president a blackmail threat right Rod? XD
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-22-2020, 11:05 AM Reply   
Bobulinski, turning over his cell phones and all his data, lol going to be fun watching this unfold.
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-22-2020, 11:17 AM Reply   
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Yes. Voters magically started to support the clan when democrats passed a bill in the 1960's. Is that why democrats voted in a KKK grand wizard into office every year until 2010? You mean in 1964 when Johnson said he would have those N#%%ers voting democrat for the next 200 years? You mean those racists left the party?
Keep telling yourself you're not racist, Grand Wizard David Duke says "Trump voters are his voters", Trump does Not even hide the fact that he is backed by white racist.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...are-his-voters
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 12:28 PM Reply   
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The tax returns are not about how little Trump paid. It's about what a ****ty businessman he is lol - and the fact that he's hundreds of millions in debt to unknown sources. But a blow job is what REALLY makes a president a blackmail threat right Rod? XD
Who cares about his business skills? He’s an awesome prez. That’s what matters to everyone except you tards who are scrambling for every nugget to criticize him on with your TDS.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 12:30 PM Reply   
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Keep telling yourself you're not racist, Grand Wizard David Duke says "Trump voters are his voters", Trump does Not even hide the fact that he is backed by white racist.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...are-his-voters
...and ANTIFA says you’re their type of voter.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 12:31 PM Reply   
So after 95 claiming the msm isn’t biased and in bed with the dems, will he admit it now? How much more evidence do we need?
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 12:33 PM Reply   
How many of you are wondering if Bobulinksi will get the “Epstein treatment?” Or be “Clintoned?”
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 12:36 PM Reply   
Hiden better double up on that adderall tonight.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 1:28 PM Reply   
Holy cow! Trump is putting the beat down on Hiden! What a turnaround! Where was this Trump last time???
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 2:16 PM Reply   
Pretty sure Hiden is Googling local blood banks to replace the blood Trump let out of him.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 2:27 PM Reply   
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The tax returns are not about how little Trump paid. It's about what a ****ty businessman he is lol - and the fact that he's hundreds of millions in debt to unknown sources. But a blow job is what REALLY makes a president a blackmail threat right Rod? XD
Hey, buddy. Your boy got shanked tonight. Almost looked like elder abuse by another old guy who just finished kicking Kung Flu’s 95sn. You gonna keep makin excuses for your party’s idiocy? Wanna have a policy debate you’ll lose immediately? Go ahead, punk. Make my day.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 3:04 PM Reply   
Wow! It’s like a libtard ghost town here now. Lol maybe more like a libtard funeral.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 3:08 PM Reply   
One of the best lines of tonight; “I ran because of you.”
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 3:47 PM Reply   
Relative to the previous debate this year, the NBC moderator was actually pretty fair tonight.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 4:24 PM Reply   
Just to prove how slippery and slimy Biden and the left are, Biden claimed he never received money from foreign countries etc... YEAH, idiot! You received them through your crack head son, Hunter and his crooked companies in the US! Lying bastard! No better than Wes, Joe and the rest of you lying bastards here! You all need a severe beating.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-22-2020, 5:08 PM Reply   
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Holy cow! Trump is putting the beat down on Hiden! What a turnaround! Where was this Trump last time???
I imagine you watching the debate like Jeffrey Toobin takes a zoom call. Gross! Make it stop! Make it stop!
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       10-22-2020, 9:05 PM Reply   
haha seriously - look at this solo Trumpgasm mark had all over the screen XD
Poor guy needs to get a life
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Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2020, 10:26 PM Reply   
Ha! Your guy got his 95sn handed to him last night in a big way and that’s all you can say. Hiden got beat like a rented mule-up one side and down the other and you know it! Wanna keep lying, Wes and try to sell me another Russia hoax, you lying POS? So so so funny watching Trump mop the floor with your boy. I absolutely love how the last 2-3 days have revealed what a corrupt rat Hiden is. We already knew that about BJ Harris, but now Hiden is looking like the Hindenburg. “Oh the humanity!”
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Old     (skiboarder)      Join Date: Oct 2006       10-23-2020, 12:48 AM Reply   
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Who cares about his business skills? He’s an awesome prez. That’s what matters to everyone except you tards who are scrambling for every nugget to criticize him on with your TDS.
TDS....Dude. You just made 10 posts in a row extolling the virtues of your idol. There is no way you weren't typing with one hand when you wrote that.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-23-2020, 2:05 AM Reply   
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TDS....Dude. You just made 10 posts in a row extolling the virtues of your idol. There is no way you weren't typing with one hand when you wrote that.
It was twelve actually, but even simple math is hard, right? Aren’t you the guy who also lies and claims to be a republican like 95sn? Last night, your daddy was calm, cool, collected and... presidential like all RINO’s like you have complained that he’s not. Shouldn’t you be saying something more like, “wow, he turned a corner and is finally acting the way he should?” Nah, you’d rather keep feeding your own TDS like the good libtard you really are. Face it. Your boy choked last night.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-23-2020, 2:07 AM Reply   
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TDS....Dude. You just made 10 posts in a row extolling the virtues of your idol. There is no way you weren't typing with one hand when you wrote that.
Funny how you on the left project so much like you do. It was YOUR SIDE that was caught with his 95sn in his hand. Not mine.
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       10-23-2020, 3:29 AM Reply   
Thought Trump won the debate. I still didn't like the moderation, although it was much improved. I thought that she kept interrupting Trump, but let Biden make final points uninterrupted.

markj, it doesn't matter if Biden did what he is accused of doing

The media and our government (both sides) give the dems a pass on illegal activity. They might go through the motions, but everything gets covered up. It's just the way it is
Old     (bcd)      Join Date: Jun 2012       10-23-2020, 3:43 AM Reply   
According to the crazy liberals and the Green New Deal, which Biden supports, the flyover states and farmers are creating all kinds of CO2. According to NASA, the midwest boasts the highest area of photosynthesis in the entire world. So "red" states create most of the oxygen for the "blue" states to breathe, and rid the world of more carbon dioxide.

https://www.nasa.gov/press/goddard/2...-us-corn-belt/

So the crazy liberals in the big cities are creating a bunch of carbon dioxide, and then the farmers are turning that in oxygen via corn/soybean photosynthesis.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-23-2020, 4:01 AM Reply   
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haha seriously - look at this solo Trumpgasm mark had all over the screen XD
Poor guy needs to get a life
Typical TDS, "Trump Devotion Syndrome. These poor people have let this bleed into every aspect of themselves. They see Trump as a projection of who they aspire to be. They wish they could cuss and yell at a boss, say anything without repercussions, they want to be viewed as powerful and successful.

Truthfully, Trump has been a c list celebrity for years and the butt end of so many jokes. He's weak, a failure, and a con man. Deep down his cult knows this. That's why he can prey on the vulnerable.
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       10-23-2020, 4:37 AM Reply   
but 95sn, he's not a career politician. That's why he got elected. If either party would run someone else who's not a career politician, they would get my vote. Possibly even a democrat

I wish that the media would realize this and start talking about how half of our country is tired of career politicians. The good ole' boys club.

They would rather bash the man, instead of analyze exactly why he got elected in the first place

Things won't truly change in this country until that message is loud and clear.

....a non career politician President, with enough non career congressmen and senators to get something done.......That's what's needed and that's who will get my next 9 votes
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-23-2020, 4:45 AM Reply   
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They would rather bash the man, instead of analyze exactly why he got elected in the first place
I really don't think it would help to tell Trump supporters that they are ignorant tools of his cult of personality. If calling a spade a spade offends you, that's your problem. The bottom line is that we get what we deserve when we elect a politician. So no matter who wins, it's on us.
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       10-23-2020, 4:53 AM Reply   
it doesn't offend ME.

just making a point that half of our country is tired of politicians.

so, if my vote for Trump makes me a Trumptard, then a vote for a career politician , makes that person what.....a rhinofart?
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       10-23-2020, 4:58 AM Reply   
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/shark...153245470.html

O'leary's take on a Biden Presidency . He talks about that at just short of the 8 minute mark
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-23-2020, 5:13 AM Reply   
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but 95sn, he's not a career politician. That's why he got elected. If either party would run someone else who's not a career politician, they would get my vote. Possibly even a democrat

I wish that the media would realize this and start talking about how half of our country is tired of career politicians. The good ole' boys club.

They would rather bash the man, instead of analyze exactly why he got elected in the first place

Things won't truly change in this country until that message is loud and clear.

....a non career politician President, with enough non career congressmen and senators to get something done.......That's what's needed and that's who will get my next 9 votes
He may not be a "career" politician, but he is 100% politician. He started running for 2020 on day one of his term, day of inauguration. Thats what politicians do. His biggest claim to fame is the tax break he gave to the richest in the US. He gave his followers lies and lip service. He is supported by GOP who is 100% career politicians. I get what your asking for, someone who will do something for Americans rather than doing something to keep themselves in power. Ive never seen anyone who is more concerned with them self than trump. I dont think you are getting what you ask for. He said he would drain the swamp, instead he fills it with the worst of the worst. Put lobbyists who spent their careers fighting EPA, in charge of the EPA. His appointments have had to quit over Ethics or legal problems in numbers no administration in history can match. There is a lot of truth to your "Good ole Boys Club" take. Have you seen the make up of the GOP and compare contrast with the make up of people on the other side of the aisle? The GOP does not have a single african american in the senate, not one. They have one black Rep, he is not running for re-election as he disagrees too much with trump. So there is Zero, thats textbook Good ole Boys Club. They have a handful of women. The Dems have a different look. Men and women of diff color, men, women, religious diversity, they have a single mom, gay representatives....I see this as a much more logical path away from the good ole boys club. Trump and the GOP are quite happy with being old, rich and white, unopen to change as they have proved. If you want to find non career politicians, you will need to look someplace other than the GOP my friend.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       10-23-2020, 5:31 AM Reply   
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I really don't think it would help to tell Trump supporters that they are ignorant tools of his cult of personality. If calling a spade a spade offends you, that's your problem. The bottom line is that we get what we deserve when we elect a politician. So no matter who wins, it's on us.
Again. I’ll repost below.

I am not voting for Trump’s personality.....I am voting for him because he believes in less government restrictions on businesses , he believes in people keeping more of their hard earned money for themselves rather then redistributing it to those who do nothing to earn it , he doesn’t believe people should leech off government *** for everything. A sizeable portion of the debate centered around emptying prisons of criminal animals. Who in their right mind would have ever thought emptying prisons of violent felons would be a subject Both candidates would be trying to push the most. It’s sickening. That’s why we have 25yr records in crime numbers. Keeping rolling out excuses for violent criminals preying on the weak and making excuses, burning down cities and defunding the police. Biden couldn’t find one topic last night he wasn’t a complete failure on .



He mentioned about people having to decide between tires and food on their plates. Yea you know why , because he and the left continue to shut down businesses and lockdown cities keeping those working class families scrambling.

Biden’s argument that Trump is in love with North Korea was laughable. Everyone from the left said Trump was gonna drop nukes and start numerous world wars. Only in actuality he’s brought more countries to peace in his 3.5 years than thee left has accomplished in last 20. And that’s while fighting a war within his own country the left has waged against him.

Then ol Joe went on about global warming and how the environmentalist groups support him. Well NO **** , ever priced out what changing your house to solar would cost ? Ever try to put a windmill up on your farm and price one of those out ? Solar power isn’t nearly efficient enough yet to even come remotely close to being able to handle what it would need to pump out. Of course environmental groups support him. He’ll make them billionaires just just like him when people are forced to buy their products. Ramming Electric cars down people’s throats. I regularly drive 5hrs plus , that trip would turn into 7 with an electric vehicle . Batteries have a shelf life , my current 2017 Tahoe has 153,000 miles on it. Batteries are one of the most toxic substances , what do they plan on doing with all of them when they go bad? Where are they getting the energy to power all the chargers needed to handle a full fleet ? Where is the money coming from to install the proper amount of public charging stations ? Oh probably back to paying for more solar panels !!!!!!!!! It’s the most idiotic bull**** in the name of the environment ever.



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Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       10-23-2020, 5:52 AM Reply   
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He may not be a "career" politician, but he is 100% politician. He started running for 2020 on day one of his term, day of inauguration. Thats what politicians do. His biggest claim to fame is the tax break he gave to the richest in the US. He gave his followers lies and lip service. He is supported by GOP who is 100% career politicians. I get what your asking for, someone who will do something for Americans rather than doing something to keep themselves in power. Ive never seen anyone who is more concerned with them self than trump. I dont think you are getting what you ask for. He said he would drain the swamp, instead he fills it with the worst of the worst. Put lobbyists who spent their careers fighting EPA, in charge of the EPA. His appointments have had to quit over Ethics or legal problems in numbers no administration in history can match. There is a lot of truth to your "Good ole Boys Club" take. Have you seen the make up of the GOP and compare contrast with the make up of people on the other side of the aisle? The GOP does not have a single african american in the senate, not one. They have one black Rep, he is not running for re-election as he disagrees too much with trump. So there is Zero, thats textbook Good ole Boys Club. They have a handful of women. The Dems have a different look. Men and women of diff color, men, women, religious diversity, they have a single mom, gay representatives....I see this as a much more logical path away from the good ole boys club. Trump and the GOP are quite happy with being old, rich and white, unopen to change as they have proved. If you want to find non career politicians, you will need to look someplace other than the GOP my friend.
You forgot one other segment of people that the democrats represent. One that is the true representation of yourself.........those with mental defects . It makes up 90 percent of their base . The post above makes that abundantly clear.

The people you “want “ to have a diverse representation are all in charge in major democratic cities across the nation, The cities they’ve been in charge of for decades are the most in debt , have some of the worst schools , have the highest crime rates and have the highest jobless rates. When it comes to their bid ata National position for the senate or the house , they can’t win an election outside their narrow precious scope because when put to the test they’re imbeciles and crooks that have no clue how to run a city let alone a country. The people outside those cities get their voice finally heard when it comes to a senate/ house election for their area.

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Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       10-23-2020, 6:50 AM Reply   
well, I voted for Trump the first time, because he was far far better than the most corrupt, career politician in history

I do not defend the republican party. But a bad republican party far out weighs a bad democrat party....

drain it all.....
I'm okay with that

Now that Reid is gone, I will be somewhat fine with a Biden win, if Pelosi and Watters lose
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-23-2020, 6:54 AM Reply   
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You forgot one other segment of people that the democrats represent. One that is the true representation of yourself.........those with mental defects . It makes up 90 percent of their base . The post above makes that abundantly clear.

The people you “want “ to have a diverse representation are all in charge in major democratic cities across the nation, The cities they’ve been in charge of for decades are the most in debt , have some of the worst schools , have the highest crime rates and have the highest jobless rates. When it comes to their bid ata National position for the senate or the house , they can’t win an election outside their narrow precious scope because when put to the test they’re imbeciles and crooks that have no clue how to run a city let alone a country. The people outside those cities get their voice finally heard when it comes to a senate/ house election for their area.
Ah-huh. Does it matter if they have the highest populations too? You dont complain when the Blue states pay the fed the most in taxes so that they can support the poor red states socialized industries...Farmers, oil, gas, dairy, auto... all top subsidy takers. Where do I get my subsidy? You are already on the Gov breast on the lifetime program. Your city pays for everything you have, your education, your health insurance, your retirement. Must be nice, is it a blue state you take everything from? On top of all that, you do nothing but complain, talk about biting the hand that feeds... Quit, see how real people live and quit acting like a pansy.
On the other hand... I am a capitalist, i have to work my azz off and create my own wealth, pay taxes, pay for health insurance out of my pocket. Retirement? at 100% of pay? With insurance? whats that?
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Dems HAVE diverse representation. The GOP is 100% white. Even in the NFL they require you interview a black coach prior to hiring the white guy. Its clear who the GOP reps.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/taxe...20of%20Vermont.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-23-2020, 7:07 AM Reply   
When are they gonna make the NFL player population represent the nation’s population? Hmm...
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-23-2020, 7:22 AM Reply   
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well, I voted for Trump the first time, because he was far far better than the most corrupt, career politician in history

I do not defend the republican party. But a bad republican party far out weighs a bad democrat party....

drain it all.....
I'm okay with that

Now that Reid is gone, I will be somewhat fine with a Biden win, if Pelosi and Watters lose
I didnt vote for Clinton either, and i couldnt pull the lever for trump. Im with you, drain the whole darn thing. No more lobbyists, no more retiring from congress and moving into lobbying or working for the corps lobbying. As far as Pelosi and Maxine...Pelosi prob will retire in 2022, no reelection campaign for her now. Maxine is up for reelection and just may win again. I dont have the same strong dislike, but...term limits.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-23-2020, 7:24 AM Reply   
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When are they gonna make the NFL player population represent the nation’s population? Hmm...
Start in SF. You would have a team of QB's a few tight ends and a bunch of kickers, lol.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       10-23-2020, 7:25 AM Reply   
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Ah-huh. Does it matter if they have the highest populations too? You dont complain when the Blue states pay the fed the most in taxes so that they can support the poor red states socialized industries...Farmers, oil, gas, dairy, auto... all top subsidy takers. Where do I get my subsidy? You are already on the Gov breast on the lifetime program. Your city pays for everything you have, your education, your health insurance, your retirement. Must be nice, is it a blue state you take everything from? On top of all that, you do nothing but complain, talk about biting the hand that feeds... Quit, see how real people live and quit acting like a pansy.
On the other hand... I am a capitalist, i have to work my azz off and create my own wealth, pay taxes, pay for health insurance out of my pocket. Retirement? at 100% of pay? With insurance? whats that?
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Dems HAVE diverse representation. The GOP is 100% white. Even in the NFL they require you interview a black coach prior to hiring the white guy. Its clear who the GOP reps.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/taxe...20of%20Vermont.

Wow the jealousy is real snowflake. So much misinformation and blatant lies in one post it’s scary. . I pay for my healthcare , I pay for my pension , and I made an educated decision on my employment due to the benefits offered. I am also ineligible for social security tho I still pay in. I for sure do not get 100 of my salary upon retirement. The left is also trying to strip those benefits daily. Those democratic leaders you so adore in charge of funding their portion of pensions haven’t paid their portion in over 13yrs causing the pension deficit. Not us. It’s a completely sustainable growth system when the funds are there. Only your fine democratic politicians keep stealing from the funds and pissing money away on useless programs and terrible investments made by connected individuals with access to the funds. We don’t control our funds. The city does. So they piss them away daily.

Your argument of the NFL REQUIRING THEM to interview a black coach and a white coach is even more proof of the racism actually imbedded in the left. Forcing demographics on people is racism. Forcing people to be considered for jobs based on color is racism. Even worse is you’re promoting that. What happened to the best man or woman for the job. Hell mine as well make them interview a tranny , gay , lesbian and a woman too , How are they any less qualified than a black or white? Do you read your posts after you write them to see the idiocy of your arguments.


Yet again your Covid crazy self chooses to ignore the numbers put in front of you to dispute above . You’re all about Covid tik the responses completely disprove your fallacies. I have yet to see you once explain. Or try and make an argument for your cause when the numbers are presented directly to you. If you can’t respond with wear a mask and blame trump you click the ignore button. It’s so blatant it’s speaks a thousand more words than anything you could type.

More of the real results of your diverse tyrants following science.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/colum...osy-story.html
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