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Old     (Lemonade)      Join Date: May 2015       05-25-2017, 8:08 AM Reply   
Has anyone had any experience with ballast pumps other than Johnson or Jabsco? I found these on ebay and am wondering if they'd do the trick or simply burn up in a season. Would like to plumb in my rear sacs on my Sanger.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Ballast-Bag-R...%257Ciid%253A1
Old     (Stazi)      Join Date: Sep 2011       05-25-2017, 8:12 AM Reply   
First I've seen of them. Who's going to be the guinea pig?
Old     (Tallredrider)      Join Date: Mar 2011       05-25-2017, 8:16 AM Reply   
300 GPH is only 5 gallons per minute, so it is substantially slower than the other offerings which are 9-11 GPM, depending on who you believe.

A gallon weighs 8 pounds, so 5 GPM will fill a 400 pound bag in 10 minutes.
Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-25-2017, 8:18 AM Reply   
They're less than half the GPH capacity as others.

Also, it's just a re-branded Harbor Freight pump for twice the price. https://www.harborfreight.com/110-hp...ump-63317.html
Old     (Stazi)      Join Date: Sep 2011       05-25-2017, 8:20 AM Reply   
Interesting. Good catch!
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       05-25-2017, 8:52 AM Reply   
speed (or lack of it) is the biggest issue I see
Old     (bcrider)      Join Date: Apr 2006       05-25-2017, 8:56 AM Reply   
Lemonade: Not sure where you are located but I saw this the other day.

https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/pml/bpo/6129547967.html
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       05-25-2017, 8:58 AM Reply   
^ good deal
Old     (Stazi)      Join Date: Sep 2011       05-25-2017, 9:17 AM Reply   
Wow. $200 for 4?!
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       05-25-2017, 9:48 AM Reply   
I bought one online recently from HF for $41.22 shipped including tax using the 20% discount coupons they publish every week. The ones in the stores here are 120V. You get the 12V ones online. As noted above it's pretty slow filing the sacs. I haven't tried using the reverse capability. You have to manually switch the leads. There is not reversing switch. No idea about how long they last. Haven't used it much.
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       05-25-2017, 10:15 AM Reply   
switching leads?? forget that
Old     (Stazi)      Join Date: Sep 2011       05-25-2017, 10:26 AM Reply   
You could easily wire it to a double pole switch to handle that
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       05-25-2017, 10:38 AM Reply   
I checked eBay. You can get one from Malaysia for $10.39. I might just order one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/60-A-Drum-Sw...-/272273695849
Old     (jonblarc7)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-25-2017, 10:52 AM Reply   
Why wouldn't you just hook it up to this and make it look nice.

https://www.wakemakers.com/supra-moo...st-switch.html
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       05-25-2017, 11:16 AM Reply   
If it looked nice, it would look out of place on my old boat. LOL
Old     (jonblarc7)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-25-2017, 11:36 AM Reply   
Lol
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       05-25-2017, 1:30 PM Reply   
the HF ones aren't ignition protected either.
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       05-25-2017, 1:40 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stazi View Post
You could easily wire it to a double pole switch to handle that
thought it might be doable that way.

still don't like the pump...
Old     (bcrider)      Join Date: Apr 2006       05-25-2017, 2:19 PM Reply   
Wow. $200 for 4?!

Yep! .....and that's Canadian so with the exchange the way it is right now that's like $ 10.00 USD.lol.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       05-25-2017, 6:32 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by shawndoggy View Post
the HF ones aren't ignition protected either.
My bags and pump are out in open air. So I don't need to worry about that.
Old     (jonblarc7)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-25-2017, 7:21 PM Reply   
It's not that hard to set up two aerator pumps for each bag and they are SOOOOOO much cheaper
Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-26-2017, 6:56 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonblarc7 View Post
It's not that hard to set up two aerator pumps for each bag and they are SOOOOOO much cheaper
agreed. I'm in the minority that prefers aerators.
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       05-26-2017, 10:15 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by boardjnky4 View Post
agreed. I'm in the minority that prefers aerators.
EXACTLY!!!

Yes, you have to actually think about what you're doing. But once setup right, aerators for the win all day long. Got 6 pumps in my boat. Tsunami 1200s can be had for $30.

Last edited by denverd1; 05-26-2017 at 10:18 AM.
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       05-26-2017, 10:19 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonblarc7 View Post
It's not that hard to set up two aerator pumps for each bag and they are SOOOOOO much cheaper
and faster!!
Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-26-2017, 10:26 AM Reply   
and they don't burn out

and if they go bad, the cartridges are easy to replace

and they don't require 12AWG wiring
Old     (jonblarc7)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-26-2017, 10:47 AM Reply   
The ONLY thing I don't like aerators is it can be tricky to set them up to fill while under way. But they are fast enough it doesn't really matter.

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