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Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-20-2020, 6:17 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier View Post


haha I like that you didn't quote this part:

Quote:
"Professional, career firefighters shouldn’t be forced to check a list before running out the door to see which homeowners have paid up," Harold Schaitberger, International Association of Fire Fighters president, said in a statement. "They get in their trucks and go."

Firefighters did eventually show up, but only to fight the fire on the neighboring property, whose owner had paid the fee.


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Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier View Post
We Let Homes Burn Sometimes: 6 Realities As A Firefighter

https://www.cracked.com/personal-exp...refighter.html
That doesn't really say anything about people not paying a fee, does it?
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-20-2020, 6:22 AM Reply   



Oh, wait, when the President said "total Declassification of any & all documents" he didn't really mean it?

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...-russia-430316
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-20-2020, 6:30 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by shawndoggy View Post
Oh, wait, when the President said "total Declassification of any & all documents" he didn't really mean it?

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...-russia-430316
The Tangerine Terror tells a lie, shocker!
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-20-2020, 6:37 AM Reply   
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The Tangerine Terror tells a lie, shocker!
It's not really even a lie tho. More like a direct order? It's like the WH is saying to the court "your honor, c'mon, tweets are the President's way of talking out of his rear end."
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-20-2020, 6:48 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by fly135 View Post
Voted “Bye Don” yesterday.
We all got mail in ballots and an invitation to vote at the usual walk in locations. Wonder how kalifornia is going to do with 45 million ballots floating around for anyone to utilized the ballot harvesting scam they passed before last election. I bet Trump loses in Kalifornia by 6 million this time.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-20-2020, 6:51 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by shawndoggy View Post



Oh, wait, when the President said "total Declassification of any & all documents" he didn't really mean it?

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...-russia-430316
All garbage. An order is not an order without a signature. He already ordered the declassification months ago.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-20-2020, 6:52 AM Reply   
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It's not really even a lie tho. More like a direct order? It's like the WH is saying to the court "your honor, c'mon, tweets are the President's way of talking out of his rear end."
I think you just don't know how to read is what I am getting out of this. fake news.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-20-2020, 6:55 AM Reply   
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haha I like that you didn't quote this part:







That doesn't really say anything about people not paying a fee, does it?
Funny, the part you quoted exactly supports my claim. They let the person who did not pay burn but fought the fire for the people next door that did. What you are hanging your hat on is a quote buy a guy with an opinion. His opinion is that they should not have to check a roster. that is his opinion and not supported by the law where they live.

Can you tell me what country people do in this socialized utopia you believe you live in?
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-20-2020, 6:57 AM Reply   
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Renewed my license to complain for another 4 years yesterday by voting early, in person. It was SUPER easy, and took all of about 10 minutes. While there are multiple polling places set up around the county, the registrar of voters set up a massive polling place in our convention center with 50 voting machines. There were lines at some of the other polling places, but the convention center was a piece of cake. Thankfully during early voting you can vote at any polling place regardless of precinct. I forgot to bring my mail in ballot with me so I had to sign an affidavit acknowledging that it's a felony to attempt to vote twice. Shredded the mail in ballot when I got home.

Love you America!
Not going to be easy catching illegal ballots. They are already illegal so what do you do? You have the fear of jail. Millions don't. That is how kalifornia goes from near even to plus 3 million in one election.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-20-2020, 6:58 AM Reply   
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Funny, the part you quoted exactly supports my claim. They let the person who did not pay burn but fought the fire for the people next door that did. What you are hanging your hat on is a quote buy a guy with an opinion. His opinion is that they should not have to check a roster. that is his opinion and not supported by the law where they live.

Can you tell me what country people do in this socialized utopia you believe you live in?
I'm pretty sure it's the same one that throws you in jail if you don't pay income taxes to fund its socialist overlords?
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-20-2020, 6:59 AM Reply   
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Not going to be easy catching illegal ballots. They are already illegal so what do you do? You have the fear of jail. Millions don't. That is how kalifornia goes from near even to plus 3 million in one election.
And yet all three million people illegally voting are immune to even a swampless trump blue ribbon commission. Hmmm, maybe America isn't as great as we think it is?
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-20-2020, 7:06 AM Reply   
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If you see nothing wrong with this sign, you might be a redneck.
Actually if you were sober you would also understand the irony of the swastika in relationship to the sign that you claim to have made (which I have seen this version well before your claim). In Hinduism, the right-facing symbol (卐) is called swastika, symbolizing surya ('sun'), prosperity and good luck, while the left-facing symbol (卍) is called sauvastika, symbolizing night or tantric aspects of Kali. So in a bit of strike of irony, they are still displaying religious symbols to coexist.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-20-2020, 8:06 AM Reply   
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All garbage. An order is not an order without a signature. He already ordered the declassification months ago.
He only wants to declassify the "good" parts. His admin is arguing against releasing the whole report because then everyone sees what no collusion, no obstruction means in trump speak. Its hard to distinguish because he wrote "I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History.
Needs a signature, lol.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-20-2020, 8:18 AM Reply   
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He only wants to declassify the "good" parts. His admin is arguing against releasing the whole report because then everyone sees what no collusion, no obstruction means in trump speak. Its hard to distinguish because he wrote "I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History.
Needs a signature, lol.
What is your point. What you are typing has nothing to do with the article.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-20-2020, 8:19 AM Reply   
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And yet all three million people illegally voting are immune to even a swampless trump blue ribbon commission. Hmmm, maybe America isn't as great as we think it is?
Maybe democrats are not as great as you think they are.


There fixed.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-20-2020, 8:20 AM Reply   
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I'm pretty sure it's the same one that throws you in jail if you don't pay income taxes to fund its socialist overlords?
And this is why people don't like democrats.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-20-2020, 8:24 AM Reply   
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I'm pretty sure it's the same one that throws you in jail if you don't pay income taxes to fund its socialist overlords?
Country people not what country. What do country people do who live 30 miles from the nearest town?
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-20-2020, 8:26 AM Reply   
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And this is why people don't like democrats.
Right? Stupid military, border patrol, farm subsidies, corn gas, and foreign aid. I should get to not pay for those things and just suffer the consequences if it bites me, like the libertarian model in Tennessee.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-20-2020, 8:27 AM Reply   
I notice you guys are certainly quiet on Joe Biden and the emails that prove Trump was right and the democrats launched the first one sided impeachment in the history of America to try and silence Trump from uncovering their crooked dealings. Not to mention Bidens quid pro quo of using the funding to Ukraine to get the prosecutor fired to cover for his and his sons money making venture. Where is it that we heard all about this crime of withholding funds for personal gain?

Funny. Biden is not backing away from the emails either. Where their is smoke there is fire.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-20-2020, 8:31 AM Reply   
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Maybe democrats are not as great as you think they are.


There fixed.
Huh? Republicans controlled the commission.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-20-2020, 8:45 AM Reply   
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I notice you guys are certainly quiet on Joe Biden and the emails that prove Trump was right and the democrats launched the first one sided impeachment in the history of America to try and silence Trump from uncovering their crooked dealings. Not to mention Bidens quid pro quo of using the funding to Ukraine to get the prosecutor fired to cover for his and his sons money making venture. Where is it that we heard all about this crime of withholding funds for personal gain?

Funny. Biden is not backing away from the emails either. Where their is smoke there is fire.
I don't think the e-mails I've seen say any of that stuff? Do you have a link?

If this magical hard drive contains such damning evidence, one wonders why, given that Giuliani had it almost a year ago, all of this evidence wasn't brought out during the impeachment hearings?
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-20-2020, 9:13 AM Reply   
i burnt my hand in LA this week. lol
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-20-2020, 9:50 AM Reply   
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I don't think the e-mails I've seen say any of that stuff? Do you have a link?

If this magical hard drive contains such damning evidence, one wonders why, given that Giuliani had it almost a year ago, all of this evidence wasn't brought out during the impeachment hearings?
Who said Giuliani had it during that time? Don't try and move the goal post. This is on the FBI. They are the legal authority on this. The guy gave Giuliani a copy because he did not want Hillary and her people offering him a ride somewhere.

Regardless of who had what, it clearly validates Trump and shows how dirty and rotten you democrats are. This explains exactly why the democrats pushed for an unpresidented impeachment. It was to cover their a$$es. They knew this was happening with Biden so they ran interference for him.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-20-2020, 10:05 AM Reply   
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Who said Giuliani had it during that time? Don't try and move the goal post. This is on the FBI. They are the legal authority on this. The guy gave Giuliani a copy because he did not want Hillary and her people offering him a ride somewhere.

Regardless of who had what, it clearly validates Trump and shows how dirty and rotten you democrats are. This explains exactly why the democrats pushed for an unpresidented impeachment. It was to cover their a$$es. They knew this was happening with Biden so they ran interference for him.

The guy who gave it to Giuliani gave it to him in December of 2019.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-20-2020, 11:25 AM Reply   
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The guy who gave it to Giuliani gave it to him in December of 2019.
Fair enough. Still not his responsibility. The FBI had the same details and the impeachment was a cover up to accuse Trump of what Biden was actually doing. Which sounds an aweful lot like we told you so.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-20-2020, 11:50 AM Reply   
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Fair enough. Still not his responsibility. The FBI had the same details and the impeachment was a cover up to accuse Trump of what Biden was actually doing. Which sounds an aweful lot like we told you so.
If this gun had so much smoke coming out of it, why didn't Giuliani, Trump's main guy on all things Hunter Biden, tell Trump that Giuliani had a treasure trove of documents that the FBI should be looking into?

As of February 6, according to Wray's testimony, no such ask had been made.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tru...liveBlogHeader
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       10-20-2020, 12:26 PM Reply   
Come the **** on , I thought pulling your mask up and down every bite was as crazy as one could get. Yet he said hold me
Beer and created this bull****

https://californiaglobe.com/section-...ss-no-singing/



That’s as looney toons as 95SN wanting to put the entire US in a NBA Bubble
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       10-20-2020, 2:01 PM Reply   
Lol poor drunk Rudy’s been shopping his Russian disinfo around but couldn’t get any legit news source including Fox to run with its obvious falsehoods so he had to resort to the NY Post tabloid and even THEIR staff refused to put their name on the byline when the powers that be forced the story through. Poor Rod, you just keep throwing spaghetti but nothing sticks.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-20-2020, 5:46 PM Reply   
Can’t wait for Trump to waste finger-rapin Sleepy Joe “shoot em in the leg” Biden in the next debate.

Also can’t wait to see if CNN let’s ole Jeffry “let’s see your hands” Toobin back on the network. Somehow, I really doubt a network that already has at least two doo doo chasing, pole smokers as anchors will do much about Mr. Hand.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       10-20-2020, 6:07 PM Reply   
Lol you do realize Trump never actually debates - he just interrupts as nauseum and rambles incoherently. Will be interesting to see how he handles two minutes muted - and two minutes where he’s supposed to string sentences together XD

Who can forget this winner:

HEWITT: Mr. Trump... Dr. Carson just referenced the single most important job of the president, the command, the control and the care of our nuclear forces. And he mentioned the triad. The B-52s are older than I am. The missiles are old. The submarines are aging out. It’s an executive order. It’s a commander-in-chief decision.

What’s your priority among our nuclear triad?

TRUMP: Well, first of all, I think we need somebody absolutely that we can trust, who is totally responsible; who really knows what he or she is doing. That is so powerful and so important. And one of the things that I’m frankly most proud of is that in 2003, 2004, I was totally against going into Iraq because you’re going to destabilize the Middle East. I called it. I called it very strongly. And it was very important.

But we have to be extremely vigilant and extremely careful when it comes to nuclear. Nuclear changes the whole ball game. Frankly, I would have said get out of Syria; get out – if we didn’t have the power of weaponry today. The power is so massive that we can’t just leave areas that 50 years ago or 75 years ago we wouldn’t care. It was hand-to-hand combat.

The biggest problem this world has today is not President Obama with global warming, which is inconceivable, this is what he’s saying. The biggest problem we have is nuclear – nuclear proliferation and having some maniac, having some madman go out and get a nuclear weapon. That’s in my opinion, that is the single biggest problem that our country faces right now.

HEWITT: Of the three legs of the triad, though, do you have a priority? I want to go to Senator Rubio after that and ask him.

TRUMP: I think – I think, for me, nuclear is just the power, the devastation is very important to me.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-21-2020, 1:15 AM Reply   
You guys, believe, the Russians made up the hunter BS? REALLY? Lol You all must also own time shares. lol
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-21-2020, 1:18 AM Reply   
So while libtards have been trying to defund the police and take away your rights to defend yourself, this one is now upping the ante by saying we should defund the pentagon as well. How much more dangerous can dems be? The stupidity of the left knows no bounds.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...d-the-pentagon
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-21-2020, 1:22 AM Reply   
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Lol poor drunk Rudy’s been shopping his Russian disinfo around but couldn’t get any legit news source including Fox to run with its obvious falsehoods so he had to resort to the NY Post tabloid and even THEIR staff refused to put their name on the byline when the powers that be forced the story through. Poor Rod, you just keep throwing spaghetti but nothing sticks.
“Russian disinformation?” No one, especially Hiden, has even denied it! You’re just following your CNN masters and trying to spin it now? Total loser.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       10-21-2020, 1:28 AM Reply   
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“Russian disinformation?” No one, especially Hiden, has even denied it! You’re just following your CNN masters and trying to spin it now? Total loser.
Why would they give it air? That’s just what the liars want. Rudy shopped it around and eventually had to settle for the Post because they were the only ones who would even entertain publishing it, and even with their low standards the writers wouldn’t put their name on it lol
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/...isinformation/
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-21-2020, 1:40 AM Reply   
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Why would they give it air? That’s just what the liars want. Rudy shopped it around and eventually had to settle for the Post because they were the only ones who would even entertain publishing it, and even with their low standards the writers wouldn’t put their name on it lol
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/...isinformation/
More lies and spin out of you. You are a shameless loser who’s probably just as dirty as that disgusting pig, Toobin. No wonder you guys are all for supporting deviancy.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       10-21-2020, 1:44 AM Reply   
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More lies and spin out of you. You are a shameless loser who’s probably just as dirty as that disgusting pig, Toobin. No wonder you guys are all for supporting deviancy.
Haha you’re adorable when you’re desperate, just like Twump the chump. Can’t do anything but throw around useless epithets - no substance.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-21-2020, 1:44 AM Reply   
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Why would they give it air? That’s just what the liars want. Rudy shopped it around and eventually had to settle for the Post because they were the only ones who would even entertain publishing it, and even with their low standards the writers wouldn’t put their name on it lol
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/...isinformation/
the owner of the repair shop gave the info to the FBI. PLEASE! You think the Russians, went to a repair shop, many years ago, made a mission impossible body suit, looking like Hunter, gave laptop, forged his signature, oh, They had to first steel it from his home? As the serial number match, and have emails on all kinds of stuff, personal.

these Russians must have a time machine, and know the future, as this was during the Biden VP term. LOL
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       10-21-2020, 1:54 AM Reply   
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the owner of the repair shop gave the info to the FBI. PLEASE! You think the Russians, went to a repair shop, many years ago, made a mission impossible body suit, looking like Hunter, gave laptop, forged his signature, oh, They had to first steel it from his home? As the serial number match, and have emails on all kinds of stuff, personal.

these Russians must have a time machine, and know the future, as this was during the Biden VP term. LOL
Doug you seem woefully uninformed.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-wh...arre-interview
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-21-2020, 2:15 AM Reply   
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Haha you’re adorable when you’re desperate, just like Twump the chump. Can’t do anything but throw around useless epithets - no substance.
There’s plenty of substance on Hunter’s computer. That’s why they aren’t denying it. What’s lacking in substance is your notion of another Russian hoax.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-21-2020, 2:43 AM Reply   
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Can you tell me what country people do in this socialized utopia you believe you live in?
They vote for people that think like Trump. Then when their house catches fire and they didn't pay their fee, the firefighters all stand around letting the house burn asking themselves... "What's in it for me?"

What a disgrace to the occupation. No heroes in Trump country because heroes are suckers and losers.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       10-21-2020, 3:08 AM Reply   
As predicted by the right. Imaginary Covid hysteria being pushed front and center weeks before the election. Manufactured results by the left to allow their tyrannical decision making . Focusing on the positivity rate ( which an exponential amount was manufactured by them ). Rather then the death rate for scare tactics.


Recent Covid rules regarding schools and sports have mandated testing of all athletes and students . When there is a positive case in the classroom or on the field and entire team is subject to testing and quarantine. The state now mandates negative test results be furnished before you can return to the playing field or classroom. Whether you exhibit symptoms or not you are getting tested . So if you are asymptomatic it will now show Positive , if you don’t have the virus you may even get a a false positive . The amount of people being tested is exponentially higher, hence the higher positives


Couple that with mandated weekly testing at work places and businesses and it’s easy to see why the amount being tested , and the positive rates are spiking . They have moved /changed the standards of when you should test. It’s now a mandate , not an option. No discussion explaining how that accounts significantly for the cases . No discussion on the amount of false positives being handed out , no discussion on how the actual death rate has been steadily decreasing. Oh no. That wouldn’t be up for discussion or public dissemination.

It’s a complete sham. Now governor fatass is rolling back and force closing restaurants and bars, as well as schools ( The minimum that we’re open , even those schools with no spikes ) sports are being cancelled, For what ? Nobody is dying. In fact less people today are dying per positive test rate than ever according to their numbers. It’s a complete made up , propagated hysteria.


Ice Hockey Deemed very high risk by governors scientist , never mind the multiple layers of hers and clothing protecting you and no skin to skin contact whatsoever .


Basketball completely ok been going full boar with NO RESRICTIONS , time of skin to skin contact , ball passes hands multiple times , sweat and bodily fluids passed the entire game. One might ask why this is allowed to proceed. ANSWER: THE TOP SCIENTIST’S DAUGHTER IS A DIVISION 1 RECRUIT FOR BASKETBALL IN HER SENIOR YEAR.

YUP ALL BASED ON FACTS AND SCIENCE

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Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       10-21-2020, 4:18 AM Reply   
Pretty decent summary from my end


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Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-21-2020, 6:07 AM Reply   
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Pretty decent summary from my end


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here's the deal. the left has no idea what they are voting for. They won't know until they feel the loss. they think they are "safe" from the laws and rules that come from an extreme left movement, but look, millions of people flee other countries to come here and free. Its only going to be a matter of time, until everyone is paying 60% taxes, have no rights, and are canceled into a Chinese ruling party. the left is moving towards that culture. scary
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-21-2020, 6:50 AM Reply   
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Actually if you were sober you would also understand the irony of the swastika in relationship to the sign that you claim to have made (which I have seen this version well before your claim). In Hinduism, the right-facing symbol (卐) is called swastika, symbolizing surya ('sun'), prosperity and good luck, while the left-facing symbol (卍) is called sauvastika, symbolizing night or tantric aspects of Kali. So in a bit of strike of irony, they are still displaying religious symbols to coexist.
Claim? Just because you cannot use photoshop doesn't mean I can't. And this pic says all your claims are BS
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Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-21-2020, 7:00 AM Reply   
Desperate measures for desperate times!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-bar...153020566.html
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-21-2020, 7:06 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by xstarrider View Post
As predicted by the right. Imaginary Covid hysteria being pushed front and center weeks before the election. Manufactured results by the left to allow their tyrannical decision making . Focusing on the positivity rate ( which an exponential amount was manufactured by them ). Rather then the death rate for scare tactics.


Recent Covid rules regarding schools and sports have mandated testing of all athletes and students . When there is a positive case in the classroom or on the field and entire team is subject to testing and quarantine. The state now mandates negative test results be furnished before you can return to the playing field or classroom. Whether you exhibit symptoms or not you are getting tested . So if you are asymptomatic it will now show Positive , if you don’t have the virus you may even get a a false positive . The amount of people being tested is exponentially higher, hence the higher positives


Couple that with mandated weekly testing at work places and businesses and it’s easy to see why the amount being tested , and the positive rates are spiking . They have moved /changed the standards of when you should test. It’s now a mandate , not an option. No discussion explaining how that accounts significantly for the cases . No discussion on the amount of false positives being handed out , no discussion on how the actual death rate has been steadily decreasing. Oh no. That wouldn’t be up for discussion or public dissemination.

It’s a complete sham. Now governor fatass is rolling back and force closing restaurants and bars, as well as schools ( The minimum that we’re open , even those schools with no spikes ) sports are being cancelled, For what ? Nobody is dying. In fact less people today are dying per positive test rate than ever according to their numbers. It’s a complete made up , propagated hysteria.


Ice Hockey Deemed very high risk by governors scientist , never mind the multiple layers of hers and clothing protecting you and no skin to skin contact whatsoever .


Basketball completely ok been going full boar with NO RESRICTIONS , time of skin to skin contact , ball passes hands multiple times , sweat and bodily fluids passed the entire game. One might ask why this is allowed to proceed. ANSWER: THE TOP SCIENTIST’S DAUGHTER IS A DIVISION 1 RECRUIT FOR BASKETBALL IN HER SENIOR YEAR.

YUP ALL BASED ON FACTS AND SCIENCE
Where do you get your messed up info? Number of tests is down, positives are up. 2 weeks ago 21 states had rising case and positive tests. 10 days ago there were 26 states with rising cases and positive tests. 6 days ago there were 29 states with rising cases and positive tests. Today 31 States have rising cases and positive tests. Take a look at the dakotas, remember that little motorcycle rally?
https://www.twincities.com/2020/10/2...nalysis-shows/
https://www.newsweek.com/north-dakot...ctober-1539816

How could this happen?
https://www.foxnews.com/health/north...close-contacts

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ss/3632559001/

You may be a redneck if... you think the virus is a hoax or that masks dont work, or that science doesnt know.

Also, I NEVER said the USA should be put in a bubble dumbass. I said that they had 100% success in the NBA bubble and that the science was true, it was right. I have never suggested anything other than masking up and distancing. I guess you could go all marge on me and say im lying and pull up where i said we should put the entire country in a NBA like bubble. But ya cant. Put your Trump 220,000 mask on and get back to work.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-21-2020, 7:17 AM Reply   
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here's the deal. the left has no idea what they are voting for. They won't know until they feel the loss. they think they are "safe" from the laws and rules that come from an extreme left movement, but look, millions of people flee other countries to come here and free. Its only going to be a matter of time, until everyone is paying 60% taxes, have no rights, and are canceled into a Chinese ruling party. the left is moving towards that culture. scary
Yeah, you should move. its only a matter of time. So, if everyone should be paying 60% in taxes, what does trumps $750 tell you? Funny you think the left has no idea what they are voting for. You have no idea. Do you think all those judges McConnel has been minting are going to rule in your favor? lol
How did they convince you Bidens 50 year history in politics has been anything but middle of the road. 50 years, where is all the evil leftist laws he has passed? Taxes? What rights did he take away? What freedoms? What has he done? Other than trump saying BS without a shred of evidence or truth you have provided ZERO other than "He is gonna... except he never has. The economy Obama/Biden took over was a recession, they handed trump a ballistic stock market, jobs and healthcare. Since trump everything is in the tank. Yes, lefties have no idea.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-21-2020, 7:59 AM Reply   
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Yeah, you should move. its only a matter of time. So, if everyone should be paying 60% in taxes, what does trumps $750 tell you? Funny you think the left has no idea what they are voting for. You have no idea. Do you think all those judges McConnel has been minting are going to rule in your favor? lol
How did they convince you Bidens 50 year history in politics has been anything but middle of the road. 50 years, where is all the evil leftist laws he has passed? Taxes? What rights did he take away? What freedoms? What has he done? Other than trump saying BS without a shred of evidence or truth you have provided ZERO other than "He is gonna... except he never has. The economy Obama/Biden took over was a recession, they handed trump a ballistic stock market, jobs and healthcare. Since trump everything is in the tank. Yes, lefties have no idea.
Biden is not going to be the president, he will be removed or step down. Its Harris who is very scary, and they both are scary. The Crazy Nancy plan "25th amend" plan is to be able to remove Biden if he gets elected. They know he is not fit to server. Its not his fault, he's in that stage of life. I refuse to pay 60%. I pay half now. not paying more. I will, cut my overhead, eliminate my burden and swing under the tax threshold. Seriously dont care anymore. as I am tired of flipping the bill. I can easily eliminate someone else's job. How about that!

You guys can pay, I will start creating every tax shelter that exists, and find away to contribute, abosultly nothing, and you and your left friends can fund the system.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-21-2020, 8:03 AM Reply   
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Claim? Just because you cannot use photoshop doesn't mean I can't. And this pic says all your claims are BS
Actually I am correct. The Swastika has been around way longer than the Socialistc Democrats in your picture.

You want to see democrats in action in America, here is a non photo shopped image.



If you want the video of your fellow democrats:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...tions-capital/
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-21-2020, 8:04 AM Reply   
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Where do you get your messed up info? Number of tests is down, positives are up. 2 weeks ago 21 states had rising case and positive tests. 10 days ago there were 26 states with rising cases and positive tests. 6 days ago there were 29 states with rising cases and positive tests. Today 31 States have rising cases and positive tests. Take a look at the dakotas, remember that little motorcycle rally?
https://www.twincities.com/2020/10/2...nalysis-shows/
https://www.newsweek.com/north-dakot...ctober-1539816

How could this happen?
https://www.foxnews.com/health/north...close-contacts

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ss/3632559001/

You may be a redneck if... you think the virus is a hoax or that masks dont work, or that science doesnt know.

Also, I NEVER said the USA should be put in a bubble dumbass. I said that they had 100% success in the NBA bubble and that the science was true, it was right. I have never suggested anything other than masking up and distancing. I guess you could go all marge on me and say im lying and pull up where i said we should put the entire country in a NBA like bubble. But ya cant. Put your Trump 220,000 mask on and get back to work.
Interesting, you are not posting of increased deaths. very telling.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-21-2020, 8:06 AM Reply   
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Yeah, you should move. its only a matter of time. So, if everyone should be paying 60% in taxes, what does trumps $750 tell you? Funny you think the left has no idea what they are voting for. You have no idea. Do you think all those judges McConnel has been minting are going to rule in your favor? lol
How did they convince you Bidens 50 year history in politics has been anything but middle of the road. 50 years, where is all the evil leftist laws he has passed? Taxes? What rights did he take away? What freedoms? What has he done? Other than trump saying BS without a shred of evidence or truth you have provided ZERO other than "He is gonna... except he never has. The economy Obama/Biden took over was a recession, they handed trump a ballistic stock market, jobs and healthcare. Since trump everything is in the tank. Yes, lefties have no idea.
There is the crime bill for starters that Clinton pushed that led to record number of people in jail.

Everything is in the tank because of Trump? The record says you are wrong.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       10-21-2020, 8:06 AM Reply   
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Where do you get your messed up info? Number of tests is down, positives are up. 2 weeks ago 21 states had rising case and positive tests. 10 days ago there were 26 states with rising cases and positive tests. 6 days ago there were 29 states with rising cases and positive tests. Today 31 States have rising cases and positive tests. Take a look at the dakotas, remember that little motorcycle rally?
https://www.twincities.com/2020/10/2...nalysis-shows/
https://www.newsweek.com/north-dakot...ctober-1539816

How could this happen?
https://www.foxnews.com/health/north...close-contacts

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ss/3632559001/

You may be a redneck if... you think the virus is a hoax or that masks dont work, or that science doesnt know.

Also, I NEVER said the USA should be put in a bubble dumbass. I said that they had 100% success in the NBA bubble and that the science was true, it was right. I have never suggested anything other than masking up and distancing. I guess you could go all marge on me and say im lying and pull up where i said we should put the entire country in a NBA like bubble. But ya cant. Put your Trump 220,000 mask on and get back to work.

Proving once again you’re a moron.


Comparing National stats to state stats isn’t remotely fair for he purposes of this argument discussed in my post. . They’re completely different.


Point two

Of course living in a small protected border with a compete lockdown produces effectiveness , the world is not a vacuum bubble no matter how much your feeble mind wants it to be your basement. . It’s impossible to even implement that so you’re argument is absurd. It had nothing to do with “science “ wearing masks , etc , and everything to do with who they restricted inside. They tested everyone before they were kicked down and only allowed those with negative results in. Gee wonder why the virus didn’t spread .......... You’re an idiot and the arguments you use to try and make a point are completely nonsensical like the rest of your dribble. Your closed mind isn’t even open remotely to facts.



Point 3

All your linked articles focus on positive rates not death rates. Yet another way to manipulate the masses with scare tactics .

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Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-21-2020, 8:07 AM Reply   
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Where do you get your messed up info? Number of tests is down, positives are up. 2 weeks ago 21 states had rising case and positive tests. 10 days ago there were 26 states with rising cases and positive tests. 6 days ago there were 29 states with rising cases and positive tests. Today 31 States have rising cases and positive tests. Take a look at the dakotas, remember that little motorcycle rally?
https://www.twincities.com/2020/10/2...nalysis-shows/
https://www.newsweek.com/north-dakot...ctober-1539816

How could this happen?
https://www.foxnews.com/health/north...close-contacts

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ss/3632559001/

You may be a redneck if... you think the virus is a hoax or that masks dont work, or that science doesnt know.

Also, I NEVER said the USA should be put in a bubble dumbass. I said that they had 100% success in the NBA bubble and that the science was true, it was right. I have never suggested anything other than masking up and distancing. I guess you could go all marge on me and say im lying and pull up where i said we should put the entire country in a NBA like bubble. But ya cant. Put your Trump 220,000 mask on and get back to work.
Again,mr. I don't live in the real world, when has it ever been said that you will not get covid?
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-21-2020, 8:11 AM Reply   
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I will, cut my overhead, eliminate my burden and swing under the tax threshold. Seriously dont care anymore. as I am tired of flipping the bill. I can easily eliminate someone else's job. How about that!
Tax rates are marginal. You don't save any money by limiting your income to a lower tax bracket. I don't see how eliminating a lower paid worker and filling it yourself is going to work out any better for you. Also threatening to retire or work less for less money isn't exactly a threat anyone cares about, if that's what you are insinuating.

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You guys can pay, I will start creating every tax shelter that exists, and find away to contribute, abosultly nothing, and you and your left friends can fund the system.
Why wait for Trump to lose? Apparently you've been paying more when you didn't have to all this time.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       10-21-2020, 8:18 AM Reply   
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This.
Im a HUGE Lakers Fan, so i watched many of the games finishing the season and the playoffs. The entire thing was held in a bubble. The teams that met in the finals were there over 3 months. There was not a single Covid positive test with the players, zero. It just shows how well we can shut down Covid if we really try. Contrast with baseball and NFL, College Football. How many positives? How many game cancellations....

.
There’s your idiotic quote claiming science masks and social distancing works. Completely ignoring the fact strict testing was put in to place , borders were locked down , people were not free to come and go outside the border. People with the virus were not allowed in.


You want your claims of scientific proof to be taken seriously......... Inside the borders they would’ve had to allow those testing positive in as well. They didn’t. So again your ideology is completely flawed. This was a bubble of people who showed no signs of the virus encapsulated in a lockdown area with strict checkpoints.

So yes your claiming America needs to be in bubble . A bubble full of non positive cases allocated to one area where the borders are locked.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-21-2020, 8:18 AM Reply   
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Biden is not going to be the president, he will be removed or step down. Its Harris who is very scary, and they both are scary. The Crazy Nancy plan "25th amend" plan is to be able to remove Biden if he gets elected. They know he is not fit to server. Its not his fault, he's in that stage of life. I refuse to pay 60%. I pay half now. not paying more. I will, cut my overhead, eliminate my burden and swing under the tax threshold. Seriously dont care anymore. as I am tired of flipping the bill. I can easily eliminate someone else's job. How about that!

You guys can pay, I will start creating every tax shelter that exists, and find away to contribute, abosultly nothing, and you and your left friends can fund the system.
So doesn't it chap you to pay 50% now while a very successful rich guy (people are saying maybe the most successful ever) like Trump pays $750?

Seems like a rigged game that could use some refinement?

I don't mind paying a big tax bill -- it means that I live in a country where the system is organized in a way that I can be successful. But I do have a problem with paying more than those making several orders of magnitude more than me. I'm not sure why rationalizing the tax system is a bad plan.

Plus it's legislative... that means that it doesn't really matter what Biden says, there will be plenty of horses traded in the course of negotiating a bill. If there's one thing you can say about Dems, they can't agree on ANYTHING.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-21-2020, 8:20 AM Reply   
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There’s your idiotic quote claiming science masks and social distancing works. Completely ignoring the fact strict testing was put in to place , borders were locked down , people were not free to come and go outside the border. People with the virus were not allowed in.
Huh. If only someone had a vision for regular national testing...

China has apparently contained it.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-21-2020, 8:24 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by shawndoggy View Post
So doesn't it chap you to pay 50% now while a very successful rich guy (people are saying maybe the most successful ever) like Trump pays $750?

Seems like a rigged game that could use some refinement?

I don't mind paying a big tax bill -- it means that I live in a country where the system is organized in a way that I can be successful. But I do have a problem with paying more than those making several orders of magnitude more than me. I'm not sure why rationalizing the tax system is a bad plan.

Plus it's legislative... that means that it doesn't really matter what Biden says, there will be plenty of horses traded in the course of negotiating a bill. If there's one thing you can say about Dems, they can't agree on ANYTHING.
Trump actually paid millions despite your fake news.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-21-2020, 8:24 AM Reply   
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Trump actually paid millions despite your fake news.
link?
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-21-2020, 8:26 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by shawndoggy View Post
So doesn't it chap you to pay 50% now while a very successful rich guy (people are saying maybe the most successful ever) like Trump pays $750?

Seems like a rigged game that could use some refinement?

I don't mind paying a big tax bill -- it means that I live in a country where the system is organized in a way that I can be successful. But I do have a problem with paying more than those making several orders of magnitude more than me. I'm not sure why rationalizing the tax system is a bad plan.

Plus it's legislative... that means that it doesn't really matter what Biden says, there will be plenty of horses traded in the course of negotiating a bill. If there's one thing you can say about Dems, they can't agree on ANYTHING.
You want to bring up the stats on who pays the most taxes and what percent of the total tax bill they pay? You know the one that starts out that 47% of the people do not pay income taxes.....

actually there is a point where the tax system does not put you in a position to be successful. That is where the businesses that you need to sell product to can not afford your product or they simply leave to a less taxed area so you can not do business with them.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-21-2020, 8:28 AM Reply   
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link?
You provide an actual account of Trump paying only $750 in total taxes. You know besides the story your stolen tax information that provided only part of the story. You again are one of those people (we shall call them democrats) who lie over and over again about corporate taxes.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-21-2020, 8:36 AM Reply   
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You provide an actual account of Trump paying only $750 in total taxes. You know besides the story your stolen tax information that provided only part of the story. You again are one of those people (we shall call them democrats) who lie over and over again about corporate taxes.
Federal personal income taxes is what I'm talking about here, Delta.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-21-2020, 8:42 AM Reply   
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Federal personal income taxes is what I'm talking about here, Delta.
Federal personal income from STOLEN documents is not a viable link. It was done by someone with an agenda.

Even if it was true that is not the whole story of taxes. I am never going to be in position of even most people on this board and I am smart enough to know the difference. Trump is LLC'ed all over. He had to move day to day operations of his companies to his kids. He has wealth but pretty much zero income. That is point with almost all these guys. You distort the arguments for your own politics instead of the truth. The Job Trump does have, he donates the salary. Pretty sure that goes a long way to limiting income taxes. So someone has a job that they donate a salary, has investments that he may not be pulling income from. He has a wife that has income. So freaking what? As much as you want to think it is true that he gets away with it simply is not true no matter how much your envy based political party wants it to be.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-21-2020, 8:57 AM Reply   
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Federal personal income taxes is what I'm talking about here, Delta.
Also, if you think the democrats are going to fix the personal income system, you are wrong. Why? Because the same people who had a chance to change it when the democrats had all parts of the federal government did not do it and they are the same people in charge now. Pipe dream and another lie.

What is not a lie is they are going to continue to push for the US to sign away our individual citizens rights to the UN through things like the Paris Accord. Allowing you to be taxed directly by a world body and deminishing your personal rights. Don't believe me. Joe said it directly in the last debate. That should scare the heck out of anyone.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-21-2020, 9:02 AM Reply   
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Biden is not going to be the president, he will be removed or step down. Its Harris who is very scary, and they both are scary. The Crazy Nancy plan "25th amend" plan is to be able to remove Biden if he gets elected. They know he is not fit to server. Its not his fault, he's in that stage of life. I refuse to pay 60%. I pay half now. not paying more. I will, cut my overhead, eliminate my burden and swing under the tax threshold. Seriously dont care anymore. as I am tired of flipping the bill. I can easily eliminate someone else's job. How about that!

You guys can pay, I will start creating every tax shelter that exists, and find away to contribute, abosultly nothing, and you and your left friends can fund the system.
What makes Harris Scary? Shes been a prosecutor for many years, you not favoring law and order? Other than age, what makes you think Biden wont be there at least 4 years? He seems more fit than trump, dude runs up on to stage, bends knees and squats talking to votors at events, then he stand right back up. For his age, id describe him as athletic, and it is his "fault", he works at it. He was bike riding the other day. Can trump ride a bike? I dont think trump could keep up with him in anything athletic.
I heard that Biden will up the numbers at IRS, gonna go after the tax cheats after trump reduced the number of agents in collection. Its a quick easy way to increase $ to the government coffers w/o raising taxes. Writing on the wall to eliminate tax loopholes the rich are abusing. I dont think you have to worry about 60% taxes, even the over $400K crowd wont pay that. You should read up at Bidens site to get an idea on what he plans to do because it isnt what you say. Listening to right wing media will only rile you up for no reason. Compare the two sometime.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-21-2020, 9:07 AM Reply   
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Federal personal income from STOLEN documents is not a viable link. It was done by someone with an agenda.

Even if it was true that is not the whole story of taxes. I am never going to be in position of even most people on this board and I am smart enough to know the difference. Trump is LLC'ed all over. He had to move day to day operations of his companies to his kids. He has wealth but pretty much zero income. That is point with almost all these guys. You distort the arguments for your own politics instead of the truth. The Job Trump does have, he donates the salary. Pretty sure that goes a long way to limiting income taxes. So someone has a job that they donate a salary, has investments that he may not be pulling income from. He has a wife that has income. So freaking what? As much as you want to think it is true that he gets away with it simply is not true no matter how much your envy based political party wants it to be.
So you are saying that there's one set of rules for regular folks, and another set of rules for folks who are "LLC'd all over"? That seems fair to you? Just like the framers intended?

Quote:
Also, if you think the democrats are going to fix the personal income system, you are wrong. Why? Because the same people who had a chance to change it when the democrats had all parts of the federal government did not do it and they are the same people in charge now. Pipe dream and another lie.
This is totally a fair point. When the dems had control of both houses and the white house they did get Obamacare through, but it took all of their political capital to get that done.

Same can be said for Trump, right? His signature legislative achievement being the TCAJA?

ANY administration really has a shot at getting one big signature piece of legislation through these days. Is tax code reform the thing that a Biden admin would bite off? Not sure, frankly. Though it is one of the few "doable" things that's possible with less than a filibuster proof majority in the senate, by way of the reconciliation process (again, see TCAJA).
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-21-2020, 9:21 AM Reply   
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So doesn't it chap you to pay 50% now while a very successful rich guy (people are saying maybe the most successful ever) like Trump pays $750?

Seems like a rigged game that could use some refinement?

I don't mind paying a big tax bill -- it means that I live in a country where the system is organized in a way that I can be successful. But I do have a problem with paying more than those making several orders of magnitude more than me. I'm not sure why rationalizing the tax system is a bad plan.

Plus it's legislative... that means that it doesn't really matter what Biden says, there will be plenty of horses traded in the course of negotiating a bill. If there's one thing you can say about Dems, they can't agree on ANYTHING.
I have no issues paying taxes, and I have no issues with large business owners, who employ thousands of people to have tax shelters. I do have an issue, spilling my efforts to the government that uses it to back door garbage programs. As for employees, its simple. if you vote for the left, and taxes go up. suck it up, your fired, or just cut their wages, why not? Thats the game, everyone acts like its ok to rob people, I.E ME and distribute it to left wing programs. So looks like i open a bunch on new businesses. hide money, right off loses, and work the system, vs just paying a fair rate, and 50% is redic as it is. so no thanks. will start playing the game!
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-21-2020, 9:32 AM Reply   
Another trump pal pleads guilty. So trump puts 3 guys in charge of $$ at the RNC. Michael Cohen, Paul Manafort and Elliot Broidy. All 3 Felons. Who does that? all felons? WTF. In addition to pleading guilty, Broidy is also the guy who forced his penthouse girlfriend (yes, cheating on his wife) to have an abortion. The Horror!! LOL. The 3 guys trump puts in charge at RNC all felons...The Law and Order party right. Abuse law and order more likely.
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2020...3244970/?ur3=1

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elliot...e-get-abortion

How many felons in your circle of friends? When do you figure out trumps just a grifter, grifting? He told y'all he had a secret Chinese bank account, right? Load up those weapons' and "stand ready" Trump needs you to do something for him to remain in power after the election. Pawns.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-21-2020, 9:37 AM Reply   
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There is the crime bill for starters that Clinton pushed that led to record number of people in jail.

Everything is in the tank because of Trump? The record says you are wrong.
all the sudden, you do not favor law and order?
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       10-21-2020, 9:46 AM Reply   
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Federal personal income from STOLEN documents is not a viable link. It was done by someone with an agenda.

Even if it was true that is not the whole story of taxes. I am never going to be in position of even most people on this board and I am smart enough to know the difference. Trump is LLC'ed all over. He had to move day to day operations of his companies to his kids. He has wealth but pretty much zero income. That is point with almost all these guys. You distort the arguments for your own politics instead of the truth. The Job Trump does have, he donates the salary. Pretty sure that goes a long way to limiting income taxes. So someone has a job that they donate a salary, has investments that he may not be pulling income from. He has a wife that has income. So freaking what? As much as you want to think it is true that he gets away with it simply is not true no matter how much your envy based political party wants it to be.
Haha so let me make sure I understand... There is no way that The NY Times got an actual copy of Trump’s returns... but the NY Post definitely got an unaltered copy of Hunter Biden’s hard drive XD
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-21-2020, 9:48 AM Reply   
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Proving once again you’re a moron.


Comparing National stats to state stats isn’t remotely fair for he purposes of this argument discussed in my post. . They’re completely different.


Point two

Of course living in a small protected border with a compete lockdown produces effectiveness , the world is not a vacuum bubble no matter how much your feeble mind wants it to be your basement. . It’s impossible to even implement that so you’re argument is absurd. It had nothing to do with “science “ wearing masks , etc , and everything to do with who they restricted inside. They tested everyone before they were kicked down and only allowed those with negative results in. Gee wonder why the virus didn’t spread .......... You’re an idiot and the arguments you use to try and make a point are completely nonsensical like the rest of your dribble. Your closed mind isn’t even open remotely to facts.



Point 3

All your linked articles focus on positive rates not death rates. Yet another way to manipulate the masses with scare tactics .
The article says "IF" N. Dakota was a country, it would have the worst... Just look at pos per 1,000,000. North Dakota reported the most COVID-19 cases and deaths per capita in the nation over the last week.
When you test you are using science. The players were on a different "plan" than all the hotel workers, they went home every night. The point was that by following the science, they were successful. To think that we cant learn from that experience is just not thinking. To say it doesnt work is juvenile. A closed mind is one who doesnt think masking and distancing works. A closed mind is one who thinks less of someone because they are wearing a mask. A closed mind is someone who thinks a mask wearer is afraid.
Reading is helpful, deaths ARE included...from the article...
"October is North Dakota’s deadliest month by far with now 422 victims who have succumbed to COVID-19, according to the state.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-21-2020, 10:10 AM Reply   
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link?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberth.../#699a2f442d92

https://www.nbcnews.com/msnbc/rachel...sy-ncna1244186
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-21-2020, 10:13 AM Reply   
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Actually I am correct. The Swastika has been around way longer than the Socialistc Democrats in your picture.

You want to see democrats in action in America, here is a non photo shopped image.



If you want the video of your fellow democrats:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...tions-capital/
Indeed, and here, we have an adolescent weekend of fun pic of Joe, 95sn, Wes and John all together with friends and family.
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Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-21-2020, 10:19 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier View Post
Federal personal income from STOLEN documents is not a viable link. It was done by someone with an agenda.

Even if it was true that is not the whole story of taxes. I am never going to be in position of even most people on this board and I am smart enough to know the difference. Trump is LLC'ed all over. He had to move day to day operations of his companies to his kids. He has wealth but pretty much zero income. That is point with almost all these guys. You distort the arguments for your own politics instead of the truth. The Job Trump does have, he donates the salary. Pretty sure that goes a long way to limiting income taxes. So someone has a job that they donate a salary, has investments that he may not be pulling income from. He has a wife that has income. So freaking what? As much as you want to think it is true that he gets away with it simply is not true no matter how much your envy based political party wants it to be.
Wait, stolen documents negates the story? Weren't Hillary's emails stolen by someone with an agenda? But, LOCK HER UP!
Zero income for trump? Got a link? or is this just an uninformed (I am never going to be in position of even most people on this board and I am smart enough to know the difference. ) opinion?
As far as i know he can deduct 60% of adjusted salary. 60% of $400k=240K deduction.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-21-2020, 10:19 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by 95sn View Post
Another trump pal pleads guilty. So trump puts 3 guys in charge of $$ at the RNC. Michael Cohen, Paul Manafort and Elliot Broidy. All 3 Felons. Who does that? all felons? WTF. In addition to pleading guilty, Broidy is also the guy who forced his penthouse girlfriend (yes, cheating on his wife) to have an abortion. The Horror!! LOL. The 3 guys trump puts in charge at RNC all felons...The Law and Order party right. Abuse law and order more likely.
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2020...3244970/?ur3=1

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elliot...e-get-abortion

How many felons in your circle of friends? When do you figure out trumps just a grifter, grifting? He told y'all he had a secret Chinese bank account, right? Load up those weapons' and "stand ready" Trump needs you to do something for him to remain in power after the election. Pawns.
Maybe Sleepy Joe will be added to the list. as they are all crooks. The Hiden Biden fam, selling us short with China, etc etc stuffing their pockets with dirty money, laundering money for foreign crooks to get their funds into the States. There you have it!
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-21-2020, 10:27 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by 95sn View Post
Wait, stolen documents negates the story? Weren't Hillary's emails stolen by someone with an agenda? But, LOCK HER UP!
Zero income for trump? Got a link? or is this just an uninformed (I am never going to be in position of even most people on this board and I am smart enough to know the difference. ) opinion?
As far as i know he can deduct 60% of adjusted salary. 60% of $400k=240K deduction.
ok, imagine you pay 300k plus in taxes, cant write off anything, cant claim anything, can even get a retirement tax shelter, cant have roth, cant cant cant. So either people hide it in property or hide in some other way or like me,I pay, i keep my head down, suck it up and pay. After getting ****ed year after year after year, you start to get pissed. I am pissed and have worked for what I have created. Nothing was given to me, so Why should I or others like me continue to be robbed by the system,

I live well under my means, have nice things, but not crazy things, work my ass off and just want a fair deal. Its not fair now, was not fair over the last 20 years and is getting worse.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-21-2020, 10:39 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by dougr View Post
cant have roth, cant cant cant.
Yeah you can Doug. https://www.investopedia.com/how-to-...th-ira-4584775

The loophole was intentionally left open in the TCAJA.

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I live well under my means, have nice things, but not crazy things, work my ass off and just want a fair deal. Its not fair now, was not fair over the last 20 years and is getting worse.
I'm surprised that you think the last time it was fair was the waning days of the Clinton admin?
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-21-2020, 10:40 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by dougr View Post
ok, imagine you pay 300k plus in taxes, cant write off anything, cant claim anything, can even get a retirement tax shelter, cant have roth, cant cant cant. So either people hide it in property or hide in some other way or like me,I pay, i keep my head down, suck it up and pay. After getting ****ed year after year after year, you start to get pissed. I am pissed and have worked for what I have created. Nothing was given to me, so Why should I or others like me continue to be robbed by the system,

I live well under my means, have nice things, but not crazy things, work my ass off and just want a fair deal. Its not fair now, was not fair over the last 20 years and is getting worse.
Thats just not reality. We do have write offs. We do have retirement plans to reduce tax. We do have ROTH, SEP, IRA... So... Sounds like you are pissed at trump, he is the one not paying his share? Why support a tax cheat? You pay year after year, he doesnt. You get F'ed, he goes to play golf at his own private course with hookers. And... it was ALL givin to him and he cheated on the tax to keep more of it. Why should you or me continue to pay our share when these rich guys who dont work, dont pay? Hmmm.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-21-2020, 10:43 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by shawndoggy View Post
Yeah you can Doug. https://www.investopedia.com/how-to-...th-ira-4584775

The loophole was intentionally left open in the TCAJA.



I'm surprised that you think the last time it was fair was the waning days of the Clinton admin?
I have never tried to fight the system, never got on my pedestal and screamed NOT FAIR, but when my attorney and advisor is telling me to prepare to move my assets into a trust, for my children, sell it for a dollar and create a living control agreements. its kinda scary.

No one know what the future holds, but I dont want to cheat, never have, and always have had a soft heart to help people. all people! Its starting to look like the time to HELP ME. stop carrying the water for others, as others dont want to carry their own water.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-21-2020, 10:45 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by dougr View Post
Maybe Sleepy Joe will be added to the list. as they are all crooks. The Hiden Biden fam, selling us short with China, etc etc stuffing their pockets with dirty money, laundering money for foreign crooks to get their funds into the States. There you have it!
Maybe. Maybe not. Biden released ...as i recall 10 years of tax returns. He isnt hiding anything. Whats on trumps tax return? How did trump earn $17 mil in China while president? How did his daughter get so many chinese patents while working in the WH? Did she release her tax return or is the whole family "under a routine audit"?
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