Biden for Prez

Originally Posted by dougr

Over 35000 felony cases are being dropped because chicago cant process them, and they are letting criminals go free for theft, robbery, auto theft, and just about all drug crimes if non violent. So I say we go to chicago, bust some windows, steel so **** and tell them to suck it up.

The Dems are FOOLS! Criminals are winning, they have the upper hand and are taking advantage. How foolish do you have to be? SO lets just call it what it is. The left wants crime, wants violence. wants any reason to restrict civil liberties and create a socialist society. JUST as long as its no in their back yard. Then it would be a problem.

Seems like a quite reasonable plan. LMK how it works out.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

No. I have never seen a gun get up and shoot someone. It is the people. Democrats are great at blaming everything but themselves. They created this and they can own it.

Before guns it was knives. Matter of fact the UK is wanting to ban knives. If you want to move off of gun violence we can talk about the rape and violent crime statistics of said democrats....

Right, so lets stop making guns available to "people", simple.
How many gun deaths in the UK per capita? I'll help you, and no need to go all the way to UK, look to our neighboring country.
The U.S. rate of deaths from gun violence in the world is 3.96 deaths per 100,000 people in 2019. That was more than eight times as high as the rate in Canada, which had 0.47 deaths per 100,000 people — and nearly 100 times higher than in the United Kingdom, which had 0.04 deaths per 100,000.
So the question is whats better, 3.96/100,000 or .47/100,000 or .04/100,000???? Math much?
Now that that is done....
Would you like to make that case about rape and violent crime "of said democrats" too?
https://www.safehome.org/resources/a...gerous-states/

Originally Posted by 95sn

Right, so lets stop making guns available to "people", simple.
How many gun deaths in the UK per capita? I'll help you, and no need to go all the way to UK, look to our neighboring country.
The U.S. rate of deaths from gun violence in the world is 3.96 deaths per 100,000 people in 2019. That was more than eight times as high as the rate in Canada, which had 0.47 deaths per 100,000 people — and nearly 100 times higher than in the United Kingdom, which had 0.04 deaths per 100,000.
So the question is whats better, 3.96/100,000 or .47/100,000 or .04/100,000???? Math much?
Now that that is done....
Would you like to make that case about rape and violent crime "of said democrats" too?
https://www.safehome.org/resources/a...gerous-states/

Now get rid of your democrat cities and the rate is below. Again, we have a democrat problem.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Remember when we talk abut people protesting too much. Well that is ol Biden. Turns out he reduces aid to Ukraine. His pipeline that he is letting Russia build was being halted by Trump because the Russians are using it hold Ukraine hostage. The current pipeline to Europe runs through the Ukraine. The Russians can not turn off the fuel without screwing Europe. The new pipeline bypasses Ukraine and the Russians have already threatened to turn off the fuel to Ukraine. Biden did this behind the Urkrainians presidents back.

Turns out our friends in Germany out rank Ukraine. Surprise. According to Putin, he owns Ukraine, why would he turn the pipeline off on his own people? Not sure if Bidens US presidency gives him power over Germany, Ukraine or Russia, does it? The US has sanctions available, ask Iran, or Cuba how well US sanctions kill an economy.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Right, so lets stop making guns available to "people", simple.
How many gun deaths in the UK per capita? I'll help you, and no need to go all the way to UK, look to our neighboring country.
The U.S. rate of deaths from gun violence in the world is 3.96 deaths per 100,000 people in 2019. That was more than eight times as high as the rate in Canada, which had 0.47 deaths per 100,000 people — and nearly 100 times higher than in the United Kingdom, which had 0.04 deaths per 100,000.
So the question is whats better, 3.96/100,000 or .47/100,000 or .04/100,000???? Math much?
Now that that is done....
Would you like to make that case about rape and violent crime "of said democrats" too?
https://www.safehome.org/resources/a...gerous-states/

your little link is a made up metric where they try to weight and add value to various factors. Go to DOJ and please even use the Obama DOJ numbers and get back to me.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Turns out our friends in Germany out rank Ukraine. Surprise. According to Putin, he owns Ukraine, why would he turn the pipeline off on his own people? Not sure if Bidens US presidency gives him power over Germany, Ukraine or Russia, does it? The US has sanctions available, ask Iran, or Cuba how well US sanctions kill an economy.

communism and dictators kill economies. Cuba and Iran have plenty of counties to do business with including china and russia. We are not the only game in town for them.

Germany already gets the oil, just through the Ukraine. Why don't you ask your buddy putin why he threatens to turn off the oil. Not my show. You are the ones so concerned for Ukraine. biden stabbed them in the back and even cut down aid. Not only that he made conditions for a meeting based on them signing off on their countries demise. Again you and your boys protest too much. Now we know why. Usually people who are bitching about something are really doing it themselves. Kind of like you LA people running around virtue signally all while they were running around raping each other for movie roles

Originally Posted by 95sn

And the "REPUBLICAN" Gov was who in 2017 when crime was lowest since 1950s? Mic pick-up and slam dunk.
All crime across the country red and blue states are up, covid actually a big deal. Giuliani will be in a prison cell soon himself due mostly to his work with/for trump. Guess maybe the orange dude is worse than the plague to anyone who chooses to work with him. Look at the list of felony convictions, longest in US presidential history. Ouch.

If the feds want they could get you for a felony right now. I don't trust their politically motivated witch hunts.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Right, so lets stop making guns available to "people", simple.
How many gun deaths in the UK per capita? I'll help you, and no need to go all the way to UK, look to our neighboring country.
The U.S. rate of deaths from gun violence in the world is 3.96 deaths per 100,000 people in 2019. That was more than eight times as high as the rate in Canada, which had 0.47 deaths per 100,000 people — and nearly 100 times higher than in the United Kingdom, which had 0.04 deaths per 100,000.
So the question is whats better, 3.96/100,000 or .47/100,000 or .04/100,000???? Math much?
Now that that is done....
Would you like to make that case about rape and violent crime "of said democrats" too?
https://www.safehome.org/resources/a...gerous-states/

According to the FBI, across the United States in 2018, there were: 1,515 deaths by knives or cutting instruments, 443 people were killed with hammers/clubs/other blunt objects, 672 people were killed from fists/feet/’personal weapons’ compared to the 297 killed by (any) rifles.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

your little link is a made up metric where they try to weight and add value to various factors. Go to DOJ and please even use the Obama DOJ numbers and get back to me.

DOJ stats agree, thanks for the help.
https://www.justice.gov/usao/page/file/1390446/download

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

If the feds want they could get you for a felony right now. I don't trust their politically motivated witch hunts.

Wow!!! I can be arrested? FELONY????? Jeez, for what? Making things up again Mr. NYPost?

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

According to the FBI, across the United States in 2018, there were: 1,515 deaths by knives or cutting instruments, 443 people were killed with hammers/clubs/other blunt objects, 672 people were killed from fists/feet/’personal weapons’ compared to the 297 killed by (any) rifles.

WTF are you even saying?
The number of gun deaths in America held steady in 2018, following three straight years of significant increases, according to new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. A total of 39,740 people were killed by firearms in 2018. The age-adjusted death rate also remained virtually unchanged, at 11.9 deaths per 100,000 people.
39,740 Vs. 1515+443+672+297=2927. Subtract the 297 killed by rifles too. So, WTF point are you making? Is congressman Delta proposing a new law? The knife and hammer act of 2021? GTFOH. Clown.

Just an FYI timeline.

https://imgur.com/gallery/14sxkV9

Originally Posted by 95sn

Just an FYI timeline.

https://imgur.com/gallery/14sxkV9

JaCOVID Witnesses at your door? Lol lol lol. That’s friggin funny. Listen, there are exceptions to virtually every rule. If I sat around, got stoned out of my skull and wasted as much time online as you, I could find horror stories about people’s negative reactions or death because of taking the vaccines.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Just an FYI timeline.

https://imgur.com/gallery/14sxkV9

If the vaccines are so great, why can’t they sell themselves to half the country? Just speaking from my own experience, I’d love to believe in these vaccines. I’d love the peace of mind they would give me if I trusted them. I just don’t trust them enough and when I see every libtard coming out of every corner trying to force it on me in ten different ways, I trust it even less. Y’all are doin a $hitty job of selling it. People don’t need to be educated about it any more. They’re not taking it because they don’t trust you and yours. Surly you can understand that since you yourselves publicly said you didn’t trust it since it was developed on Trump’s watch. Difference now is people aren’t going blindly into it. They ARE listening to the powers that be and realizing they’ve been lied to by libtards from the beginning and don’t trust them. I just talked to a black friend of mine today who said he’s not gonna get it because of how all the Farcis of the world keep changing their stories and contradicting themselves. It’s a libtard $hit show.

Negative reaction from what , non vaccinating? A 30 year old denier died of covid, one who was pushing anti-vax agenda, much like yourself. He thought it was pretty funny too, til about July 12th. He was 30, not 85. Does your Christian upbringing cause you to act this way? Because I cant for the life of me feel anything but bad for the guy. Jesus is going to be really pissed at you. Dude was fine, then 13 days later...Dude was dead, for no reason. None. 100% avoidable. Its like teaching your kids the right and wrong way to cross the street. See, little Johnny, the light is green for you, hold up...ok, its red now, GO!
You just lost another voter, this may add up.

Originally Posted by 95sn

DOJ stats agree, thanks for the help.
https://www.justice.gov/usao/page/file/1390446/download

No they don't. You never even read articles that you post. most of the time when you post something they do not even support your argument. You read headlines and think the article supports you. Laughable.

Originally Posted by 95sn

WTF are you even saying?
The number of gun deaths in America held steady in 2018, following three straight years of significant increases, according to new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. A total of 39,740 people were killed by firearms in 2018. The age-adjusted death rate also remained virtually unchanged, at 11.9 deaths per 100,000 people.
39,740 Vs. 1515+443+672+297=2927. Subtract the 297 killed by rifles too. So, WTF point are you making? Is congressman Delta proposing a new law? The knife and hammer act of 2021? GTFOH. Clown.

You don't even know what you are arguing about anymore do you?

Originally Posted by 95sn

Negative reaction from what , non vaccinating? A 30 year old denier died of covid, one who was pushing anti-vax agenda, much like yourself. He thought it was pretty funny too, til about July 12th. He was 30, not 85. Does your Christian upbringing cause you to act this way? Because I cant for the life of me feel anything but bad for the guy. Jesus is going to be really pissed at you. Dude was fine, then 13 days later...Dude was dead, for no reason. None. 100% avoidable. Its like teaching your kids the right and wrong way to cross the street. See, little Johnny, the light is green for you, hold up...ok, its red now, GO!
You just lost another voter, this may add up.

How many people did your boy biden impact by making covid political? Telling people not to get the vaccine if Trump said to get it?

Originally Posted by markj

If the vaccines are so great, why can’t they sell themselves to half the country? Just speaking from my own experience, I’d love to believe in these vaccines. I’d love the peace of mind they would give me if I trusted them. I just don’t trust them enough and when I see every libtard coming out of every corner trying to force it on me in ten different ways, I trust it even less. Y’all are doin a $hitty job of selling it. People don’t need to be educated about it any more. They’re not taking it because they don’t trust you and yours. Surly you can understand that since you yourselves publicly said you didn’t trust it since it was developed on Trump’s watch. Difference now is people aren’t going blindly into it. They ARE listening to the powers that be and realizing they’ve been lied to by libtards from the beginning and don’t trust them. I just talked to a black friend of mine today who said he’s not gonna get it because of how all the Farcis of the world keep changing their stories and contradicting themselves. It’s a libtard $hit show.

You want my guess? FOX, NEWSMAX, OAN, GOP from Governors right on down to their state reps, legislature.....
The 2 shot vaccines efficacy are in the 95% range. There are over 3 Billion with a B that have the jabs, issues are in the .000 range. virtually non-existent. What isnt great? How many does it take to make you feel its safe? The only people in hospitals are un-vaccinated, the only people that are dying are, you guessed it non vaccinated. None of the people that got the shots. Have you done ANY research? Excluding right wing media, of course.... you havnt, doesnt fit the narrative you parrot. Powers that be? If only un-vaccinated are hospitalized and dying, how is the mainstream media lying to you? They are pushing for shots, right? Its right wing thats anti-vax, the only way to die is taking their advice (you do know Hannity, Carlson, Ingraham, trump all are vaccinated, they are safe. They dont give an F about those who watch. Seems FOX and the rest is lying with thousands of dead proving it 100%. It is irrefutable. Feel bad for your Black friend, diabetes rates are high for them generally speaking and Covid kills them in great numbers because of their health conditions. If people are not getting the jabs, 100% there needs to be more education, its one of the extremely rare "no-brainers" in the history of mankind. All those libs coming at you 10 ways pushing vaccines shouldnt make you nervous, they are already vaccinated and hey, no third eye. Lets do the old Ben Franklin. When Ben was making a decision, he would take a piece of paper and draw a line down the center. On one side he would put all the pros, on the other side he would write down all the cons or negatives. Got that done? What is the best decision? Live/die.
Other than right wing sources, who is not 100% for vaccinations? Anyone? Seems clear.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

How many people did your boy biden impact by making covid political? Telling people not to get the vaccine if Trump said to get it?

None, when he said that, as you know, we had ZERO vaccines.
Grasping at straws makes one look stupid.
Trump hasn't said to get it, so you should be safe from his lies.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

You don't even know what you are arguing about anymore do you?

Make your case, I clearly made mine, Guns WAY more dangerous to Americans than knives, hammers ... combined.
Your turn. What is your Flipping point?

Originally Posted by 95sn

You want my guess? FOX, NEWSMAX, OAN, GOP from Governors right on down to their state reps, legislature.....
The 2 shot vaccines efficacy are in the 95% range. There are over 3 Billion with a B that have the jabs, issues are in the .000 range. virtually non-existent. What isnt great? How many does it take to make you feel its safe? The only people in hospitals are un-vaccinated, the only people that are dying are, you guessed it non vaccinated. None of the people that got the shots. Have you done ANY research? Excluding right wing media, of course.... you havnt, doesnt fit the narrative you parrot. Powers that be? If only un-vaccinated are hospitalized and dying, how is the mainstream media lying to you? They are pushing for shots, right? Its right wing thats anti-vax, the only way to die is taking their advice (you do know Hannity, Carlson, Ingraham, trump all are vaccinated, they are safe. They dont give an F about those who watch. Seems FOX and the rest is lying with thousands of dead proving it 100%. It is irrefutable. Feel bad for your Black friend, diabetes rates are high for them generally speaking and Covid kills them in great numbers because of their health conditions. If people are not getting the jabs, 100% there needs to be more education, its one of the extremely rare "no-brainers" in the history of mankind. All those libs coming at you 10 ways pushing vaccines shouldnt make you nervous, they are already vaccinated and hey, no third eye. Lets do the old Ben Franklin. When Ben was making a decision, he would take a piece of paper and draw a line down the center. On one side he would put all the pros, on the other side he would write down all the cons or negatives. Got that done? What is the best decision? Live/die.
Other than right wing sources, who is not 100% for vaccinations? Anyone? Seems clear.

I have been 100% consistent from the beginning. I remain objective. I’m not repeating any right wing narrative. If you want to label me, I’m being pragmatic. Btw, if I’m repeating any right wing narratives, wouldn’t the loudest one spoken be their own actions? I think you’re purposely ignoring what a lot of righties are really saying-which is they want people to have the freedom to choose and not to have to give in to gestapo-like badgering by you libtards.

As for who is not for vaccinations, the people I’ve spoken to represent a large cross section of society. Ive been studying this for some time now. I’ve talked to all colors in multiple towns. I work all over NorCal. It’s 50/50. Not one of them has tried to insult or badger me one way or the other like you have. I’m sure that’s because you have the protection of your computer since you must know I have something special for you if I ever see you in person.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

How many people did your boy biden impact by making covid political? Telling people not to get the vaccine if Trump said to get it?

I'd say zero because the only people who listen to Biden are dems and they are currently all vaccinated. Next.

Originally Posted by markj

I have been 100% consistent from the beginning.

To be fair to Mark this is 100% true. He has always been an idiot.

Originally Posted by ralph

To be fair to Mark this is 100% true. He has always been an idiot.

...🎵and all Ralph’s girlfriends say, “Baaaaaaaaaaaa” here we go here we go now!🎵

Lol, she sure is a pretty one

Originally Posted by ralph

I'd say zero because the only people who listen to Biden are dems and they are currently all vaccinated. Next.

Not true, You have no clue, you dont live here, stop making comments that you have no facts to back. My extending family, and many long term friends, who live in Blue states, that are all liberal and democrats, WHO ALL VOTED for Biden, HAVE NO GOTTEN THE SHOT!

This isn't all political. There are more holistic focused liberals than conservatives. Many do not get vaccines and do not subscribe to the healthcare philosophy's of the past. Many live in very liberal blue places

NZ as of 2 days ago
New Zealand
New Zealand
Total doses given 1.55M
People fully vaccinated 628K
% fully vaccinated 12.8%


We have 3x that amount of people fully vaccinated in our EVIL country. So you can eat your **** sandwich now and shut your mouth

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

communism and dictators kill economies. Cuba and Iran have plenty of counties to do business with including china and russia. We are not the only game in town for them.

This kind of portrays the Republican position on Cuba as simply grandstanding for the purpose of tooling Cuban Americans into voting for them. And I agree with that. After 60 years of failed policy America couldn't even negotiate with Cuba who gets to use the toilet first.

I just read an article from conservative columnist Cal Thomas that stated liberals were the problem with Cuba, mocked AOC for saying that decades of embargos/sanctions harmed the Cuban people, and what American needs to do is build internet access in Cuba. Not sure what his point was about internet because he didn't make one, but I can guess. Perhaps he wants the Cuban people to be inspired by empty Republican rhetoric, engage in a bloody revolution, then America can convince the rest of the world that the dead Cubans need to be avenged by the American war machine. If you were to say that was the same stupid mistake Obama made with Syria, and Bush made with Afghanistan and Iraq, I'd agree.

Question: Why do Republicans have no problem keeping do nothing policy and restricting American rights to trade and travel with Cuba?
Answer: Cuban American votes.

Ever notice that both Cuban Americans protesting Cuba's govt and Republicans never offer any plausible approaches helping the Cuban people? Probably not. They don't notice that either.

Originally Posted by dougr

This isn't all political. There are more holistic focused liberals than conservatives. Many do not get vaccines and do not subscribe to the healthcare philosophy's of the past. Many live in very liberal blue places

It's not political at all. It's a stupidity problem. I have enough personal experience with those "holistic focused people" to recognize they are not very smart. To be fair it's not necessarily just stupidity. In many cases their judgment is clouded by desperation and the lack of satisfactory answers from the medical community.

Originally Posted by markj

If the vaccines are so great, why can’t they sell themselves to half the country? Just speaking from my own experience, I’d love to believe in these vaccines. I’d love the peace of mind they would give me if I trusted them. I just don’t trust them enough and when I see every libtard coming out of every corner trying to force it on me in ten different ways, I trust it even less.

Replace vaccine with God and libtard with conservative xtian in that post. LOL!

Originally Posted by fly135

Replace vaccine with God and libtard with conservative xtian in that post. LOL!

How do I replace you with someone intelligent?

Originally Posted by markj

I have been 100% consistent from the beginning. I remain objective. I’m not repeating any right wing narrative. If you want to label me, I’m being pragmatic. Btw, if I’m repeating any right wing narratives, wouldn’t the loudest one spoken be their own actions? I think you’re purposely ignoring what a lot of righties are really saying-which is they want people to have the freedom to choose and not to have to give in to gestapo-like badgering by you libtards.

As for who is not for vaccinations, the people I’ve spoken to represent a large cross section of society. Ive been studying this for some time now. I’ve talked to all colors in multiple towns. I work all over NorCal. It’s 50/50. Not one of them has tried to insult or badger me one way or the other like you have. I’m sure that’s because you have the protection of your computer since you must know I have something special for you if I ever see you in person.

You really arnt all that objective, consistent, i could agree with. Its has been 6 months and you havnt researched anything yet. Asking people isnt research, its a poll. Research requires asking experts, reading from those experts, looking up how many shots have been given, how many bad reactions, how many bad reactions to those who did not get vaccines. Who is in hospitals, who is dying. No narratives, no TV opinions, no politician opinion. I badger not because its the Dem position, i badger because it is the position that benefits my family, my community, my country, for the higher good for all, all means all. We dont "get" anything except health and peace of mind. No one trying to get you to vaccinate wins anything other than control of a virus. Its not like im asking you to do something I havnt already done. Thats what right wing entertainment is doing, asking you to not do something they already did, that is deceitful. Remember when i asked, Who, other than Right wing media is anti-vax? You had no answer. Pragmatic means to deal with something realistically, with fact. If all the people in hospitals are unvaccinated, if all people dying from covid are unvaccinated, what would the pragmatist do?

Originally Posted by fly135

Replace vaccine with God and libtard with conservative xtian in that post. LOL!

Quality!

Originally Posted by dougr

Not true, You have no clue, you dont live here, stop making comments that you have no facts to back.

Ha ha, triggered. I'll continue to make comments whenever I feel like it about whatever I feel like., so suck it.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Right, so lets stop making guns available to "people", simple.
How many gun deaths in the UK per capita? I'll help you, and no need to go all the way to UK, look to our neighboring country.
The U.S. rate of deaths from gun violence in the world is 3.96 deaths per 100,000 people in 2019. That was more than eight times as high as the rate in Canada, which had 0.47 deaths per 100,000 people — and nearly 100 times higher than in the United Kingdom, which had 0.04 deaths per 100,000.
So the question is whats better, 3.96/100,000 or .47/100,000 or .04/100,000???? Math much?
Now that that is done....
Would you like to make that case about rape and violent crime "of said democrats" too?
https://www.safehome.org/resources/a...gerous-states/

Since you want to talk numbers and reasons……and since your party is all about race……….lets lay that out for you. America has the highest concentration of blacks of any of those countries you want to use as your test case . The crime relate amongst the black population ranks in the top 3 of the world depending on how you want to allocate the stats , and is easily #1 in the world is you base it in crimes committed per 100,000 blacks. The percentages you want to use to pound your chest on gun crimes are easily overrun and dwarfed by the statistics of the black community’s violent crime rates . Once again proving guns are not the issue.

The justice system, punishments for crimes , and culture of violence amongst those two countries is also quite different. So I are their city makeups and living arrangements. Once again when the entire picture is laid out and ALL FACTORS are laid out it’s but a gun issue

Originally Posted by 95sn

That was 1994, 27 years ago, arguable successful too.
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/fa...ns-ban-worked/
So if something works, why stop?
See how i stuck to the topic?
Tiny battles, occasionally? lol, you get destroyed virtually daily.
You want to see "untrustworthy", check out delta saying the NYPost is a lib rag, or his BS Solar knowledge he was pushing this week. How about your own investigation in the safeness of Covid Vaccines that should take 30 minutes, months later still a no decision even tho the only people in hospitals or dying are unvaccinated. Clown.

Here something to stick to then. Explain what effect the assault weapons ban had in crime statistics and how that directly constributed to crime reduction. Because historically an “assault weapon “ is used in less 2 percent of all shooting depths in the US. A majority of assault weapons related deaths are suicides. Hey don’t take my word for it. Take it from from FBI uniform crime statistics.


The congressionally-mandated study of the federal “assault weapon ban” of 1994-2004 found that the ban had no impact on crime, in part because “the banned guns were never used in more than a modest fraction of gun murders.” (Urban Institute[1]) Rifles of any type are used in only two percent of murders. (FBI[2]) Subsequent research conducted by the RAND Corporation found no conclusive evidence that banning “assault weapons” or “large” capacity magazines has an effect on mass shootings or violent crime.[3]


“Murder rates were 19.3% higher when the Federal [assault weapon] ban was in effect.”[4]
Americans own over eleven million AR-15s and buy hundreds of thousands of new ones every year. (NSSF[5])



Can’t wait for your data

Originally Posted by 95sn

If you were to "magically" remove the gun in their waistband, they would not rob the liquor store with it or shoot anyone. We dont have a democrat problem, we have a gun problem, no one has ever been shot without one, ever.

That’s exactly what police used to do until the democrats ran their elections on defunding police and turning violent criminals into martyrs. Imagine a society’s were the police get to do what their trained for and stop violent criminals based on crime patterns and unheard of experience . Imagine a society where That gun toting piece of **** was charged with a felony , locked away in prison , and not allowed to roam the streets committing more multiple felonious gun crimes. Imagine a society where that violent offender is held accountable not released based on the color of their skin but held accountable based purely on the criminal actions they committed..


Wow what do you think would have a bigger effect on violent crime ? Being held accountable for ones actions and the police being allowed to stop violent criminals running through neighborhoods? Or an assault weapons ban ?

You see once again you make the argument that democrats are destroying America and completely slap yourself in the face with your own response.

Just in case you’re confused here is your dems at work destroying America and emboldening criminals and crime rates.

Soros hands $1 million to group attempting to defund police as violent crime skyrockets nationwide, the Defund police rhetoric and BLM narrative has increased violent crime 100 times over what the elimination of the assault weapons ban did.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sor...ets-nationwide

Originally Posted by xstarrider

Since you want to talk numbers and reasons……and since your party is all about race……….lets lay that out for you. America has the highest concentration of blacks of any of those countries you want to use as your test case . The crime relate amongst the black population ranks in the top 3 of the world depending on how you want to allocate the stats , and is easily #1 in the world is you base it in crimes committed per 100,000 blacks. The percentages you want to use to pound your chest on gun crimes are easily overrun and dwarfed by the statistics of the black community’s violent crime rates . Once again proving guns are not the issue.

The justice system, punishments for crimes , and culture of violence amongst those two countries is also quite different. So I are their city makeups and living arrangements. Once again when the entire picture is laid out and ALL FACTORS are laid out it’s but a gun issue

Yet you want to continue to arm them, seems freakin stupid.

Originally Posted by ralph

Ha ha, triggered. I'll continue to make comments whenever I feel like it about whatever I feel like., so suck it.

There you go! You are the typical hypocrite. Your own country is 3x less willing to get vaccinated vs the States. LOL 12% only 12% SO i guess its time to hide your head in the sand and deny the stats? Your response was to pound your chest and say SUCK IT! lol Just like a child calling the parent a poopy face.

Dont worry Ralph, to be honest, no one cares what happens in NZ. your country could fall of the face of the earth and no one would know. NZ has no impact, no value, hence you pine to be heard! Spreading your opinion to a land you dont live in, desperate to be heard! We hear you, we just dont care what you have to say. Now, I know that sounds mean, and hurtful. but sometimes you just have to tell it like it is.

Maybe you should spend more time working on the problems in NZ. I seems your country has a hate speech problem, and they want to increase arrests and fines for "hate speech" So I guess you have to hide in the shadows or face jail time for your words, if deemed "hate speech" Doesn't look like your bill of rights is protecting your liberties?

Americans have rights, currently, but the left want to eliminate them. Seems like NZ has the same problem, but they can arrest you for your words, as long as your majority deems it. Scary!

Originally Posted by dougr

There you go! You are the typical hypocrite. Your own country is 3x less willing to get vaccinated vs the States. LOL 12% only 12% SO i guess its time to hide your head in the sand and deny the stats? Your response was to pound your chest and say SUCK IT! lol Just like a child calling the parent a poopy face.

Does NZ have the same access to vaccines as USA? If not, not really reasonable to say that the number of vaxxed is indicative of the number who want to be vaxxed.

Originally Posted by 95sn

You really arnt all that objective, consistent, i could agree with. Its has been 6 months and you havnt researched anything yet. Asking people isnt research, its a poll. Research requires asking experts, reading from those experts, looking up how many shots have been given, how many bad reactions, how many bad reactions to those who did not get vaccines. Who is in hospitals, who is dying. No narratives, no TV opinions, no politician opinion. I badger not because its the Dem position, i badger because it is the position that benefits my family, my community, my country, for the higher good for all, all means all. We dont "get" anything except health and peace of mind. No one trying to get you to vaccinate wins anything other than control of a virus. Its not like im asking you to do something I havnt already done. Thats what right wing entertainment is doing, asking you to not do something they already did, that is deceitful. Remember when i asked, Who, other than Right wing media is anti-vax? You had no answer. Pragmatic means to deal with something realistically, with fact. If all the people in hospitals are unvaccinated, if all people dying from covid are unvaccinated, what would the pragmatist do?

You don't know how objective I am so STFU. If I wasn't objective, why would I continue to ask questions about it to everyone I know? Your dogma is a big nothing burger compared to the distrust I have for the people promoting vaccines. There are so many strikes against them as a group. Farci and the MSM who play defense for him are 100% untrustworthy. The crdibility of the CDC is hanging by a fingernail. The people who are in the hospitals are the same people who were in the hospitals before the vaccines were out: Mostly old, fat asses with preexisting medical conditions. I "have no answer" other than to say you're full of $hit as usual in all of your claims. As for TV or political opinions, whose opinions are you referring to? Your cranial tenant, T Daddy is promoting vaccination. So is Hannity, I think. You've said before that all the Fox people have taken the mark so WTF are you talking about? What right-wing media pushes is freedom to make our own choices. Something you Brown Shirts have a huge problem with: Freedom. You and your comrades can suck it.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

Does NZ have the same access to vaccines as USA? If not, not really reasonable to say that the number of vaxxed is indicative of the number who want to be vaxxed.

The vaccine roll out here has been super slow, we have been covid free for 18 months so hasn't been critical but the government program is a joke. I'm still waiting for access personally.

Originally Posted by markj

You don't know how objective I am so STFU. If I wasn't objective, why would I continue to ask questions about it to everyone I know? Your dogma is a big nothing burger compared to the distrust I have for the people promoting vaccines. There are so many strikes against them as a group. Farci and the MSM who play defense for him are 100% untrustworthy. The crdibility of the CDC is hanging by a fingernail. The people who are in the hospitals are the same people who were in the hospitals before the vaccines were out: Mostly old, fat asses with preexisting medical conditions. I "have no answer" other than to say you're full of $hit as usual in all of your claims. As for TV or political opinions, whose opinions are you referring to? Your cranial tenant, T Daddy is promoting vaccination. So is Hannity, I think. You've said before that all the Fox people have taken the mark so WTF are you talking about? What right-wing media pushes is freedom to make our own choices. Something you Brown Shirts have a huge problem with: Freedom. You and your comrades can suck it.

I have no idea why you are asking everyone you know except experts. It 100% is not pragmatic, the pragmatist can see the facts clearly when all sick and dying people are un-vaccinated. The vaccinated are going to work everyday w/o issues. I asked you 6 times, What did your doc say?" No answer, because you are not researching anything. You are still just polling opinion. Why the distrust? Are these not Trumps miracle vaccines? Did he get the shots? Did Pres Biden? VP Harris? Fauci? Hannity, Ingraham and Carlson? All your heros. The Queen of England, German, French and leaders of all countries, your own mother and brother, but you, you think we are out to kill or give the leaders of the world a third eye? The only people in hospitals are those who choose to be in hospitals, if they didnt want to go, there is a FREE shot eliminating 99.4 of that chance. When they get to the hospital, they ask for the vaccine, but its too late. How many people are you comfortable sending to hospitals to die? The new variants say you will get covid w/o jabs, yeah you may only have a lite case due to health but as an anti masker you will spread it to someone less fortunate. so how many is ok to knock off?
If trump is pushing the vaccines I would be surprised, please, provide me some evidence of this claim. The Fox hosts have taken the shots, yet advise on air is anti-vax, still. Its hypocrisy at its worst, only causing FOX viewers sickness, death and sadness. You are all free to get a shot that will save lives with near zero down side, or free to follow Fox advise and go out and "poll" people in your group that also does not believe covid is real. Thats freedom for ya. How is that freedom working in Floridah? 20% of hospitalization in the country are in Desantis country. Texas, Missouri and Florida have 40% of all US cases. Freedom to spread isnt a good policy.

Originally Posted by 95sn

I have no idea why you are asking everyone you know except experts. It 100% is not pragmatic, the pragmatist can see the facts clearly when all sick and dying people are un-vaccinated. The vaccinated are going to work everyday w/o issues. I asked you 6 times, What did your doc say?" No answer, because you are not researching anything. You are still just polling opinion. Why the distrust? Are these not Trumps miracle vaccines? Did he get the shots? Did Pres Biden? VP Harris? Fauci? Hannity, Ingraham and Carlson? All your heros. The Queen of England, German, French and leaders of all countries, your own mother and brother, but you, you think we are out to kill or give the leaders of the world a third eye? The only people in hospitals are those who choose to be in hospitals, if they didnt want to go, there is a FREE shot eliminating 99.4 of that chance. When they get to the hospital, they ask for the vaccine, but its too late. How many people are you comfortable sending to hospitals to die? The new variants say you will get covid w/o jabs, yeah you may only have a lite case due to health but as an anti masker you will spread it to someone less fortunate. so how many is ok to knock off?
If trump is pushing the vaccines I would be surprised, please, provide me some evidence of this claim. The Fox hosts have taken the shots, yet advise on air is anti-vax, still. Its hypocrisy at its worst, only causing FOX viewers sickness, death and sadness. You are all free to get a shot that will save lives with near zero down side, or free to follow Fox advise and go out and "poll" people in your group that also does not believe covid is real. Thats freedom for ya. How is that freedom working in Floridah? 20% of hospitalization in the country are in Desantis country. Texas, Missouri and Florida have 40% of all US cases. Freedom to spread isnt a good policy.

My doctor encouraged me to get it, but left it up to me. I know other docs who say no. I’ve seen 2 docs get really sick after taking it. I know 3 nurses who say no. Why the distrust? Lol GTFOH! Farci wets his finger, holds it in the air just to check the direction of the wind on the topic. He’s an admitted liar-just like you. You’re still full of $hit if you wanna keep lying about what Trump and Fox are saying. You’re just parroting CNN and Co. as usual. The flip flopping from “the experts” leaves just as many dims as righties distrusting.

Carlson says you should confront people wearing masks. Sure im making it up while i post documentation...unlike your claim trump is pushing the vax. Who is lying?
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...opa-story.html
https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker...masks-outdoors

So, the expert, your doc says get it, but the dude at the firing range says it will make you grow a third arm....hmm, and you follow that advice, not the only expert. You logic like a dropout.

Why are you whining about Fauci, he also took the vaccine you are afraid of. I dont think either, he or I has admitted to lying, nor have lied. Clearly not parroting anything except proper vax advice. Unlike FOX and yourself. Over 3 billion shots are in arms, how many til you stop being afraid little special one? How many are you ok with sending to the hospital? Better hurry, I heard Biden making new rules. After Aug 1, you will be required to sign a notarized statement of fact before getting a shot. Statement is "Joe Biden won the 2020 election, there was no voter fraud. Joe Biden is the rightful US president, Trump and the 1/6 seditionists are traitors to our country."

Originally Posted by 95sn

Carlson says you should confront people wearing masks. Sure im making it up while i post documentation...unlike your claim trump is pushing the vax. Who is lying?
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...opa-story.html
https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker...masks-outdoors

So, the expert, your doc says get it, but the dude at the firing range says it will make you grow a third arm....hmm, and you follow that advice, not the only expert. You logic like a dropout.

Why are you whining about Fauci, he also took the vaccine you are afraid of. I dont think either, he or I has admitted to lying, nor have lied. Clearly not parroting anything except proper vax advice. Unlike FOX and yourself. Over 3 billion shots are in arms, how many til you stop being afraid little special one? How many are you ok with sending to the hospital? Better hurry, I heard Biden making new rules. After Aug 1, you will be required to sign a notarized statement of fact before getting a shot. Statement is "Joe Biden won the 2020 election, there was no voter fraud. Joe Biden is the rightful US president, Trump and the 1/6 seditionists are traitors to our country."

Here you go, you lazy F.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ne/ar-BB1eEvMz

Originally Posted by 95sn

Carlson says you should confront people wearing masks. Sure im making it up while i post documentation...unlike your claim trump is pushing the vax. Who is lying?
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...opa-story.html
https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker...masks-outdoors

So, the expert, your doc says get it, but the dude at the firing range says it will make you grow a third arm....hmm, and you follow that advice, not the only expert. You logic like a dropout.

Why are you whining about Fauci, he also took the vaccine you are afraid of. I dont think either, he or I has admitted to lying, nor have lied. Clearly not parroting anything except proper vax advice. Unlike FOX and yourself. Over 3 billion shots are in arms, how many til you stop being afraid little special one? How many are you ok with sending to the hospital? Better hurry, I heard Biden making new rules. After Aug 1, you will be required to sign a notarized statement of fact before getting a shot. Statement is "Joe Biden won the 2020 election, there was no voter fraud. Joe Biden is the rightful US president, Trump and the 1/6 seditionists are traitors to our country."

Let me know if you need any more, liar.
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/16/97800...its-of-freedom

Originally Posted by 95sn

Carlson says you should confront people wearing masks. Sure im making it up while i post documentation...unlike your claim trump is pushing the vax. Who is lying?
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...opa-story.html
https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker...masks-outdoors

So, the expert, your doc says get it, but the dude at the firing range says it will make you grow a third arm....hmm, and you follow that advice, not the only expert. You logic like a dropout.

Why are you whining about Fauci, he also took the vaccine you are afraid of. I dont think either, he or I has admitted to lying, nor have lied. Clearly not parroting anything except proper vax advice. Unlike FOX and yourself. Over 3 billion shots are in arms, how many til you stop being afraid little special one? How many are you ok with sending to the hospital? Better hurry, I heard Biden making new rules. After Aug 1, you will be required to sign a notarized statement of fact before getting a shot. Statement is "Joe Biden won the 2020 election, there was no voter fraud. Joe Biden is the rightful US president, Trump and the 1/6 seditionists are traitors to our country."

I'm not whining about anything or anyone. I'm simply stating that Farci is a known liar, just like you are, Brown Shirted parrot.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Carlson says you should confront people wearing masks. Sure im making it up while i post documentation...unlike your claim trump is pushing the vax. Who is lying?
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...opa-story.html
https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker...masks-outdoors

So, the expert, your doc says get it, but the dude at the firing range says it will make you grow a third arm....hmm, and you follow that advice, not the only expert. You logic like a dropout.

Why are you whining about Fauci, he also took the vaccine you are afraid of. I dont think either, he or I has admitted to lying, nor have lied. Clearly not parroting anything except proper vax advice. Unlike FOX and yourself. Over 3 billion shots are in arms, how many til you stop being afraid little special one? How many are you ok with sending to the hospital? Better hurry, I heard Biden making new rules. After Aug 1, you will be required to sign a notarized statement of fact before getting a shot. Statement is "Joe Biden won the 2020 election, there was no voter fraud. Joe Biden is the rightful US president, Trump and the 1/6 seditionists are traitors to our country."

Just for good measure..... This firmly establishes your disdain for the truth.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/16/polit...ine/index.html
You don't ever ask questions or openly wonder in an authentic way. You parrot. You fling 95sn and see what sticks to the wall. You offer medical advice and you're not a doctor. You're nothing more than a known internet troll.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Carlson says you should confront people wearing masks. Sure im making it up while i post documentation...unlike your claim trump is pushing the vax. Who is lying?
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...opa-story.html
https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker...masks-outdoors

So, the expert, your doc says get it, but the dude at the firing range says it will make you grow a third arm....hmm, and you follow that advice, not the only expert. You logic like a dropout.

Why are you whining about Fauci, he also took the vaccine you are afraid of. I dont think either, he or I has admitted to lying, nor have lied. Clearly not parroting anything except proper vax advice. Unlike FOX and yourself. Over 3 billion shots are in arms, how many til you stop being afraid little special one? How many are you ok with sending to the hospital? Better hurry, I heard Biden making new rules. After Aug 1, you will be required to sign a notarized statement of fact before getting a shot. Statement is "Joe Biden won the 2020 election, there was no voter fraud. Joe Biden is the rightful US president, Trump and the 1/6 seditionists are traitors to our country."

PS, you “logic” like someone who was indoctrinated by a libtard college or university. I took the red pill. You took the blue pill.

Originally Posted by markj

Let me know if you need any more, liar.
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/16/97800...its-of-freedom

" T Daddy is promoting vaccination" Mentioning it one time in march is it? WTF? He has been lying about his loss about 4000 times, taking $75 Mil from the cult, dozens of fake audits and recounts...... One mention is pretty weak for the Ex POTUS dont ya think? Almost like he doesnt give an F for others.

Originally Posted by markj

Just for good measure..... This firmly establishes your disdain for the truth.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/16/polit...ine/index.html
You don't ever ask questions or openly wonder in an authentic way. You parrot. You fling 95sn and see what sticks to the wall. You offer medical advice and you're not a doctor. You're nothing more than a known internet troll.

Clown, it is one time he mentioned it in March, you posted the same single event 3 times. Talk about dishonesty. One single time. How many times has Biden? Dozens and dozens of speeches specifically about them. This is the diff between someone who works and a coastal rich lazy trust fund baby. I asked you nicely 6 times about the one expert you asked, didnt I. Thats authentic. Your "polling" is authentic research? lol. The hospitalizations/deaths are authentic too. Unlike FOX/Carlson and the advice you are providing. Those who are anti-vax are the trolls.

Originally Posted by markj

PS, you “logic” like someone who was indoctrinated by a libtard college or university. I took the red pill. You took the blue pill.

Says the guy whose doc told him to get vaccinated because only non-vaccinated people are being hospitalized and dying, so he didnt. Yep a pragmatist lol.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Clown, it is one time he mentioned it in March, you posted the same single event 3 times. Talk about dishonesty. One single time. How many times has Biden? Dozens and dozens of speeches specifically about them. This is the diff between someone who works and a coastal rich lazy trust fund baby. I asked you nicely 6 times about the one expert you asked, didnt I. Thats authentic. Your "polling" is authentic research? lol. The hospitalizations/deaths are authentic too. Unlike FOX/Carlson and the advice you are providing. Those who are anti-vax are the trolls.

Bozo, he was the one who fast-tracked its development, you F'ing fool! Unlike you, he doesn't (and shouldn't) need to pound his chest demanding people do as he says. He doesn't talk down to or condescend his audiences. As long a you keep beating your dead horse, you'll keep entrenching yourself as a mini Mussolini, so go ahead. Keep spewing your stupid $hit, Benito. No wonder people are afraid of you wannabe tyrants having any power.

Originally Posted by 95sn

" T Daddy is promoting vaccination" Mentioning it one time in march is it? WTF? He has been lying about his loss about 4000 times, taking $75 Mil from the cult, dozens of fake audits and recounts...... One mention is pretty weak for the Ex POTUS dont ya think? Almost like he doesnt give an F for others.

Liar, you said he wasn't supporting it and he has, liar. So have most of the people on Fox, liar. Maybe your lying fuhrer needs to keep mentioning it because he can't muster enough trust-even amongst his own people to convince them. That's your and his problem, lying Brown Shirt.

You have been weighed and measured, liar.....and you have come up short multiple times, liar.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Says the guy whose doc told him to get vaccinated because only non-vaccinated people are being hospitalized and dying, so he didnt. Yep a pragmatist lol.

It really bothers you that we live in a free country, doesn't it, totalitarian Brown Shirt? I love that you are literally squirming as you type your nonsense, trying to force your will on me and others by any means possible.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Says the guy whose doc told him to get vaccinated because only non-vaccinated people are being hospitalized and dying, so he didnt. Yep a pragmatist lol.

Ever heard of a second opinion, idiot? I'm done kicking your a$s for the day.

Wait what ???????????


You mean the too mayors of democratic cities tripled their private sector unity details while spewing rhetoric to defund the police. Bwahahahahahhahah


https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...-defund-police

Originally Posted by markj

Bozo, he was the one who fast-tracked its development, you F'ing fool! Unlike you, he doesn't (and shouldn't) need to pound his chest demanding people do as he says. He doesn't talk down to or condescend his audiences. As long a you keep beating your dead horse, you'll keep entrenching yourself as a mini Mussolini, so go ahead. Keep spewing your stupid $hit, Benito. No wonder people are afraid of you wannabe tyrants having any power.

LOL, he fast tracked it and Pfizer, who worked with the German firm Biontech developed it. They were not partnered with Operation Warp Speed.
https://news.yahoo.com/so-is-pfizer-...175429888.html
Operation WarpSpeed was first loser, just like the 2020 election.
He is the king of the radical right, the radical right wont get vaccinated. You think he shouldnt help out? Obama did, George Bush did, Jimmy Carter did, Biden did. Trump abstains and mark agrees, he would be useless. Lol, he doesnt condescend, you must have missed his comments in the past. He hates his walmart crowd, **** talks them all the time, wouldnt spend a minute with those joe dirts or shake their dirty hands....he just wants their $$.
I think you left lip prints on his hinny.

Originally Posted by 95sn

LOL, he fast tracked it and Pfizer, who worked with the German firm Biontech developed it. They were not partnered with Operation Warp Speed.
https://news.yahoo.com/so-is-pfizer-...175429888.html
Operation WarpSpeed was first loser, just like the 2020 election.
He is the king of the radical right, the radical right wont get vaccinated. You think he shouldnt help out? Obama did, George Bush did, Jimmy Carter did, Biden did. Trump abstains and mark agrees, he would be useless. Lol, he doesnt condescend, you must have missed his comments in the past. He hates his walmart crowd, **** talks them all the time, wouldnt spend a minute with those joe dirts or shake their dirty hands....he just wants their $$.
I think you left lip prints on his hinny.

Gross polluting with your worthless posts as usual. You get owned and all you can do is flail. Lol such a complete loser in every form. Your desperate posts have become so ridiculous, I am inches away from blocking everything that comes from your stupid as$. So glad Dave gives us all that option to rid ourselves of Ftards like you.

Originally Posted by 95sn

LOL, he fast tracked it and Pfizer, who worked with the German firm Biontech developed it. They were not partnered with Operation Warp Speed.
https://news.yahoo.com/so-is-pfizer-...175429888.html
Operation WarpSpeed was first loser, just like the 2020 election.
He is the king of the radical right, the radical right wont get vaccinated. You think he shouldnt help out? Obama did, George Bush did, Jimmy Carter did, Biden did. Trump abstains and mark agrees, he would be useless. Lol, he doesnt condescend, you must have missed his comments in the past. He hates his walmart crowd, **** talks them all the time, wouldnt spend a minute with those joe dirts or shake their dirty hands....he just wants their $$.
I think you left lip prints on his hinny.

So what do you say about all the dems who campaigned on never taking the vaccine because it was developed under Trump ?you know that platform they pushed during elections. Only now to flip and mandate everyone . I wonder why they spent months denouncing the vaccine and anything associated with it. Seems like Trump had a good portion to do with its rapid development and distribution for them to campaign against it.


Fast forward , Biden gets into office and now they want to mandate everyone get it. Yes go get your vaccine , then you can be forced to wear a mask again. I still keep waiting for Florida amd Texas to be the epicenters of death . Guess those were lies beingbspeeed by left too. Explain that

Originally Posted by xstarrider

So what do you say about all the dems who campaigned on never taking the vaccine because it was developed under Trump ?you know that platform they pushed during elections. Only now to flip and mandate everyone . I wonder why they spent months denouncing the vaccine and anything associated with it. Seems like Trump had a good portion to do with its rapid development and distribution for them to campaign against it.


Fast forward , Biden gets into office and now they want to mandate everyone get it. Yes go get your vaccine , then you can be forced to wear a mask again. I still keep waiting for Florida amd Texas to be the epicenters of death . Guess those were lies beingbspeeed by left too. Explain that


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I think they were stupid. Just like I think it is stupid to not take the vaccine at this point for political reasons today. The disease was never political and neither was the treatment. Go to your doctor for medical advice, not your politicians and definitely not the talking head at your favorite cable news network.

Originally Posted by skiboarder

I think they were stupid. Just like I think it is stupid to not take the vaccine at this point for political reasons today. The disease was never political and neither was the treatment. Go to your doctor for medical advice, not your politicians and definitely not the talking head at your favorite cable news network.

For the record. I have the vaccine , caught the delta variant with the vaccine. I’ll be giddanmed if I am wearing a wet sock around my face. People know the risks. Which area absolutely minuscule to your average healthy American. I posted the stats. It an targeted group at risk. And the variant they’re all instilling the fear mongeringwjth is even less dealt/serious.

The issue has always been the exploitation of the disease for political gain, and the conflicting information that was politically motivated being rammed down everyone’s throats topped off with tyrannical policies . The complete suppression of any view or scientific data not consistent with the left’s narrative was completely removed and targeted for a political party. You can’t dispute that.



You unfortunately don’t get that option anymore to listen to your doctor and make your own health decisions. The government is mandating it for you again.

Originally Posted by skiboarder

I think they were stupid. Just like I think it is stupid to not take the vaccine at this point for political reasons today. The disease was never political and neither was the treatment. Go to your doctor for medical advice, not your politicians and definitely not the talking head at your favorite cable news network.

Dims have made it political from the very beginning. If politics were the reason for me not getting it yet, I’d be going against the example of my cult leader, right? The inconvenient truth here is the fact that more dims are not getting it than R’s in Kali. That said, the more pressure put on by dims, the less likely people are going to trust it or get it. Especially when the flip flopping of all the “experts” won’t stop.

Looks like the Dems Master plan of eliminating the Far Right by refusing them vaccines is working well!! Except they are not refusing to provide the vaccine, in fact they are doing everything possible to motivate them. They have done nationwide educational advertising. Got TV stars and athletes to promote them. They have paid people to get it, had lotteries to motivate, gave away free beers, free joints, contests, rewards, anything to get more shots out. Sadly the Far right media and GOP elected officials have decided their path. Good luck, even with all the gerrymandered districts, the voter suppression tactics, new anti voter laws across the country etc... they will still lose because their plan is to kill off their own voters. FYI, once dead you cant rise and vote.
Was it the Democrats making it political and refusing to wear masks? Refusing to social distance and lock down? Was it democrats here on WW saying masks are worthless, do nothing? Was it the democrats that run FOX news? Carlson a Democrat? Newsmax anti vax stories are written by democrats? Is trump a democrat? He was first to mock masks. An early adopter of "soon it will all go away", denier. Is it the democrats lying in hospitals, unvaccinated and dying? Yep, the radical democrats politicized this. You keep talking of flip flopping of advice...have you ever looked at a covid graph? You think its wise to not change things when the graph is going ballistic or change again when the trend is downward? Can you not see clearly why the rules change? You really cant see that? Or you do but choose to argue in bad faith, parrot your fellow mouth breathers from the echo chamber? Next time you get confused why the rules change, just ask a 4th grader, im sure they can explain it to you.

Originally Posted by ralph

I'd say zero because the only people who listen to Biden are dems and they are currently all vaccinated. Next.

Wrong o fluffy. biden has a big problem in the minority communities. Our work which is highly educated and liberal is 50% vaccinated. Nationwide poles by medical professional note that independents are the most hesitant to get the vaccine. so you are wrong, wrong, wrong.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Looks like the Dems Master plan of eliminating the Far Right by refusing them vaccines is working well!! Except they are not refusing to provide the vaccine, in fact they are doing everything possible to motivate them. They have done nationwide educational advertising. Got TV stars and athletes to promote them. They have paid people to get it, had lotteries to motivate, gave away free beers, free joints, contests, rewards, anything to get more shots out. Sadly the Far right media and GOP elected officials have decided their path. Good luck, even with all the gerrymandered districts, the voter suppression tactics, new anti voter laws across the country etc... they will still lose because their plan is to kill off their own voters. FYI, once dead you cant rise and vote.
Was it the Democrats making it political and refusing to wear masks? Refusing to social distance and lock down? Was it democrats here on WW saying masks are worthless, do nothing? Was it the democrats that run FOX news? Carlson a Democrat? Newsmax anti vax stories are written by democrats? Is trump a democrat? He was first to mock masks. An early adopter of "soon it will all go away", denier. Is it the democrats lying in hospitals, unvaccinated and dying? Yep, the radical democrats politicized this. You keep talking of flip flopping of advice...have you ever looked at a covid graph? You think its wise to not change things when the graph is going ballistic or change again when the trend is downward? Can you not see clearly why the rules change? You really cant see that? Or you do but choose to argue in bad faith, parrot your fellow mouth breathers from the echo chamber? Next time you get confused why the rules change, just ask a 4th grader, im sure they can explain it to you.

It is absolutely hilarious how you’re not smart enough to see how you unwittingly reveal your dishonesty so regularly here. You keep blaming right wing media for why people won’t take the mark, but fail to mention the overwhelming majority of those people not getting it are dims. Are all those dims watching and listening to this right wing boogie man? Idiot. Too stupid to admit what’s right in front of your own stupid face.

Originally Posted by 95sn

WTF are you even saying?
The number of gun deaths in America held steady in 2018, following three straight years of significant increases, according to new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. A total of 39,740 people were killed by firearms in 2018. The age-adjusted death rate also remained virtually unchanged, at 11.9 deaths per 100,000 people.
39,740 Vs. 1515+443+672+297=2927. Subtract the 297 killed by rifles too. So, WTF point are you making? Is congressman Delta proposing a new law? The knife and hammer act of 2021? GTFOH. Clown.

They include suicide in gun deaths. Don't argue something you know nothing about.

Originally Posted by fly135

This kind of portrays the Republican position on Cuba as simply grandstanding for the purpose of tooling Cuban Americans into voting for them. And I agree with that. After 60 years of failed policy America couldn't even negotiate with Cuba who gets to use the toilet first.

I just read an article from conservative columnist Cal Thomas that stated liberals were the problem with Cuba, mocked AOC for saying that decades of embargos/sanctions harmed the Cuban people, and what American needs to do is build internet access in Cuba. Not sure what his point was about internet because he didn't make one, but I can guess. Perhaps he wants the Cuban people to be inspired by empty Republican rhetoric, engage in a bloody revolution, then America can convince the rest of the world that the dead Cubans need to be avenged by the American war machine. If you were to say that was the same stupid mistake Obama made with Syria, and Bush made with Afghanistan and Iraq, I'd agree.

Question: Why do Republicans have no problem keeping do nothing policy and restricting American rights to trade and travel with Cuba?
Answer: Cuban American votes.

Ever notice that both Cuban Americans protesting Cuba's govt and Republicans never offer any plausible approaches helping the Cuban people? Probably not. They don't notice that either.

Cuban Americans are smart enough to know what they and their parents lived through aka survived. The don't need a political party to tell them their truth and which way is up.

Republican's have historically limited trade with any communist country. It is just not cuba.

AOC needs to be mocked. Cuba had plenty of trade partners with Russia and other dictators. You trying to say that the former communists and other dictators do not have products?

The internet issue is probably talking about the current issue where the communist government cut off the population from the internet because they were talking freedom.

Why don't you have a problem with blood shed when the totalitarians take over?

I’m still laughing at how badly 95 self-owned again. Hey, 95! Wanna get away? Lol

We need to send out a search party for 95 who just buried himself in the hole that he dug for himself. Maybe we should just leave him there. I could use a break from BS.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Looks like the Dems Master plan of eliminating the Far Right by refusing them vaccines is working well!! Except they are not refusing to provide the vaccine, in fact they are doing everything possible to motivate them. They have done nationwide educational advertising. Got TV stars and athletes to promote them. They have paid people to get it, had lotteries to motivate, gave away free beers, free joints, contests, rewards, anything to get more shots out. Sadly the Far right media and GOP elected officials have decided their path. Good luck, even with all the gerrymandered districts, the voter suppression tactics, new anti voter laws across the country etc... they will still lose because their plan is to kill off their own voters. FYI, once dead you cant rise and vote.
Was it the Democrats making it political and refusing to wear masks? Refusing to social distance and lock down? Was it democrats here on WW saying masks are worthless, do nothing? Was it the democrats that run FOX news? Carlson a Democrat? Newsmax anti vax stories are written by democrats? Is trump a democrat? He was first to mock masks. An early adopter of "soon it will all go away", denier. Is it the democrats lying in hospitals, unvaccinated and dying? Yep, the radical democrats politicized this. You keep talking of flip flopping of advice...have you ever looked at a covid graph? You think its wise to not change things when the graph is going ballistic or change again when the trend is downward? Can you not see clearly why the rules change? You really cant see that? Or you do but choose to argue in bad faith, parrot your fellow mouth breathers from the echo chamber? Next time you get confused why the rules change, just ask a 4th grader, im sure they can explain it to you.

Hey idiot how owned you with the facts of covid already. Quit your skybis talking bull**** because people aren’t vaccinated. It’s simply not true. Over 60 percent of America is the vaccinated. And a good majority of vaccinated people only got the vaccine because it was mandated by an employer , sports team, medical professional , or educational institution.

Here are the facts again. While the delta variant is more contagious it’s much less deadly. So even less of serious threat. Yet we are going to watch dems run down the same tired path the facts simply don’t support. Facts once again . The scare tactic is no longer death with the delta because it’s miniscule. Now it’s simply transmission. But sure let’s hit the panic button on positivity because that worked so well last time. What benefit(s) does the vaccine offer to healthy Americans that unvaccinated people don’t get ….especially to the delta variant? I can’t wait for your factual response and all the benefits associated.



People can focus on the scare tactics of 500k deaths this , people dead that. At the end of the day the death rate is 1/10th of 1 percent . It’s deaths are unequivocally associated with a certain at risk population number. Positivity rates are a mute point. Average healthy Americans simply don’t die after contracting the virus at alarming rates, children rarely contract the virus at all.

The simple logical approach mentioned numerous times here would be to address the at risk population , devise an effective plan to combat that targeted group , and treat the rest of Americans like adults with their own minds . Instead it was used as a political weapon to instill false fear across America while turning states and cities into communist zones while backsliding sweeping changes to voter laws in the countries for an election cycle .

You tell me why an entire economy and way of life should be destroyed over something with a .001 death rate across this nation. We’ve been dealing with the flu for decades. Even with modern medical tech and multiple vaccines 25,000 Americans die from flu virus , we didn’t count those that died of flu related consequences like they do covid deaths , so that number could effectively be very low and realistically if counted like covid deaths be much higher .



Perspective .001 chance of death from a virus( America as a whole) , Clearly exponentially less if you’re an average healthy American and clearly more if your an at risk person. What’s the percentage of the at risk population in America? 14percent of America’s population is over 65 . It’s been estimated 80 percent of all covid deaths are people over the age of 65. Of that 14 percent how many of those individuals possess pre exiting conditions ? The CDC itself reports of those covid deaths over the age of 65 , over 90 percent of those individuals had pre- existing severe medical conditions they were already battling. . These are the on paper stats , not some fictional political game made up of bull**** . So you tell me why everyday Americans were told they can’t go to work , cant’t open their business, can’t attend school , can’t play sports , can’t live life , and can’t be productive and go about their daily lives without a wet sock on their face ?

Let’s compare the death totals of your 18-55 aged America’s to those that lost their business , families , way of life, education, and mental stability. 20 percent of the covid deaths belong to those under the age of 55. That’s 100,000 Americans. Of those 100,000 Americans over 92 percent of that age group that experienced death yas a result of covid had pre-existing conditions so that’s 18,000 HEALTHY AMERICANS taken as a result of covid. How many jobs were lost, how many business will never come back as a result of nonsensical policies structured around the political push for an election? Millions that’s right millions. How many kids mental and physical health has been impacted negatively , millions , how many families are struggling to put food on their table because of trynaical Policies that have impacted them negatively , millio

This has been a fun game of smear the queer with 95 assuming the position of queer. Lol

And so the lockdowns enter phase 2. Let’s triple down on stupid.

Serious what’s the point of a vaccine for school age children at this point. It was already proven the were the lowest at risk pool of any group

Originally Posted by xstarrider

And so the lockdowns enter phase 2. Let’s triple down on stupid.

Serious what’s the point of a vaccine for school age children at this point. It was already proven the were the lowest at risk pool of any group

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Yep. Lock it all back down. Deliver the death blow now to as many small businesses as possible. Then they can come “rescue” us with more printed stimulus money. They’re gonna try to force feed socialism down our throats. Literally manufacture as big of a dependent class as they can and then lean on them come the next election. They already have a fully indoctrinated millennial population who vote with illegals pouring in daily by the thousands. This country is screwed and most don’t even know it yet.

Wearing a mask is a lockdown? I haven’t heard any measures besides that one, which is basically the lightest possible measure.

Go to the store, get on a plane, go to the beach, enjoy a baseball game. Just wear a mask inside. Sheesh. Do you guys complain this much about having to wear a shirt into Chickfila too? I mean the shirt doesn’t even serve a public health purpose.

Uh huh, the America first, Prolife crowd won't wear a mask or get vaccinated, two extremely easy things they could do to help America avoid lockdowns, economic damage and save lives.

Originally Posted by ralph

Uh huh, the America first, Prolife crowd won't wear a mask or get vaccinated, two extremely easy things they could do to help America avoid lockdowns, economic damage and save lives.

I am not a pro lifer ………..Show me your data the vaccine gives you an exponentially higher chance of not dying from. The virus as a healthy American ! The data shows/ showed healthy Americans , especially healthy young students are at almost zero risk. Explain why they should introduce a non proven , rusted to production. Vaccine , that now doesn’t guarantee them protection from the variant.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

Wearing a mask is a lockdown? I haven’t heard any measures besides that one, which is basically the lightest possible measure.

Go to the store, get on a plane, go to the beach, enjoy a baseball game. Just wear a mask inside. Sheesh. Do you guys complain this much about having to wear a shirt into Chickfila too? I mean the shirt doesn’t even serve a public health purpose.

The last two “flattening of the curves “ /lockdowns came in phases. Mandated masks were part of those “phases”. We are on the same path. Fake hysteria , knee jerk reactions , and un-relentless rhetoric of moving toward mandated vaccines when it doesn’t align with the actual science and medical advice from professionals.


Explain why over 60% of America remains in vaccinated. Sure you have idiots that simply won’t do it based on a “political image”. But a vast majority of non vaccinated people I am sure had conversations by now with their Health care professionals who offered medical advice. And they are still choosing to remain unvaccinated . That speaks volumes

You’re afraid of it wear mask bet jabbed , Forcing masks on everyone again is ludacris, especially when the data shoes the complete opposite for example of what actually transpired in schools.

Ahhhhhhh. Biden’s woke America on full display for the world. Glorifying being a selfish quitter while on the biggest stage of the sport. Let’s glorify being a joke while 1000’s of young women across the world would’ve competed with major physical injury. Great captain


I also love the karma train of woke sports teams getting humiliated on the world stage for making it about them .

40% of the country is a minority group. Out of the entire country. 2/3rds 66% or the minority people ARE NOT GETTING VACCINATED! So are 66% of 38% of the entire country. who are black, brown etc etc ALL CONSERVATIVE?

You lefties are fools, and this "conservatives are not getting vaccines" BS is total BS

SO if there are 350,000,000 people in the country. 150,000,000 are minorities and aprox 90mil are not getting vaccinated, are not now and have not gotten any shots.

So who is to blame now?