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Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-06-2009, 6:34 PM Reply   
I am looking at a 1990 Supra Sunsport but the guy who owns it does not know what engine is in it. Does anyone have any clue what they offered in them? thanks.
Old     (saltare_inverts)      Join Date: Mar 2009       04-06-2009, 7:13 PM Reply   
It should be a 351 Ford blocked Pleasurcraft Marine motor. I had one, great engine. Around 260 HP.
Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-06-2009, 7:32 PM Reply   
i really appreciate the help man. is there any way to be sure? can i call the manufacturer with the serial number or something?
Old     (j_money)      Join Date: May 2006       04-06-2009, 8:03 PM Reply   
its the 351 Windsor man! What Jack said. Its an AWESOME engine! decent power and maintenance is SUPER cheap! Get parts for it at any local auto shop for like a buck. and they can be rebuilt for nothing! Pretty sure that was the standard engine in the Sunsports from like 84 to 92 with minor upgrades here and there like ignition. Couple of my buds bought an 87 last year and that was a pretty FREAKIN sick wake boat for the price!!! Good luck with it!! :-)
Old     (wakemikey)      Join Date: Mar 2008       04-07-2009, 6:04 AM Reply   
You have a SN2001 now? The wakeboard wake isn't as steep on the SS but it can still be big. The surf wave is totally awesome. PM me if you wanna chat. I have an 87. But the best models are supposed to be 89 and up.
Old     (formfunction)      Join Date: Jun 2008       04-07-2009, 6:15 AM Reply   
Didn't they also offer a big block chevy as a engine upgrade?
Old     (mhunter)      Join Date: Mar 2008       04-07-2009, 6:48 AM Reply   
Distributor in the front Ford ,distributor in the back Chevy. Take a pic of the motor and we will identify for you.
Old     (dh03r6)      Join Date: Mar 2007       04-07-2009, 7:24 AM Reply   
I had a 92 comp came with the 351, man i loved that engine. The parts are cheap skidim.com and it was bullet proof. A more important thing to check is the tranny you want the 1.23:1 over the 1:1. PCM is the best.
Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-07-2009, 8:28 AM Reply   
it is the 1.23:1
Old     (dh03r6)      Join Date: Mar 2007       04-07-2009, 8:32 AM Reply   
Its a reduction gear tranny its better then the 1:1 it will give you more pull out of the whole. When you look at the boat check to see what it has. Not that the 1:1 is bad.
Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-07-2009, 8:51 AM Reply   
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Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-07-2009, 8:52 AM Reply   
i know the above pics are kinda crap but they are all i got last night after hauling it for 5 hours through rain and snow. let me know if you know what engine it is. thanks.
Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-07-2009, 8:54 AM Reply   
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Old     (dh03r6)      Join Date: Mar 2007       04-07-2009, 8:58 AM Reply   
Wow thats clean, good find you will love that boat im jealous. Post full picks when you can.
Old     (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       04-07-2009, 9:03 AM Reply   
Distributor in the front.... Ford. Thats the PCM / Ford 351 alright. Good motor. Looks like brand new. How about the rest of the boat?
Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-07-2009, 9:03 AM Reply   
i will post full pics tomorrow hopefully. the boat is a 1990 with 238 hours and is compltley stock. i gave 10 grand for it. (not boasting just to be used as a reference)
Old     (lovin_the_wake)      Join Date: Jul 2007       04-07-2009, 10:22 AM Reply   
damn dude I have a 91 SS and my engine is clean but nowhere near that clean it looks like is was just dropped in. Does the rest of the boat look that good ?
Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-07-2009, 10:36 AM Reply   
yeah it really does. there is one rip in all of the interior that is no longer than a quarter of an inch long. the hull has 2 scratches that are about 2 inches long each and may buff out, but prob wont. those scratches are on the side and i can find no scratches what so ever on the bottom of the boat. no stains on the carpet and the single axle trailer looks like it was literally painted yesterday.
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       04-07-2009, 10:38 AM Reply   
Awesome. I am really jealous. I really want to see some pics of the boat.
Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-08-2009, 5:24 AM Reply   
Well the weather in Southern Indiana is still pretty but here are a couple of pics of it in my garage.

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Old     (maxx_wake)      Join Date: Sep 2003       04-08-2009, 5:31 AM Reply   
Very nice! I had a 90 that looked pretty much exactly like that one. I removed the stickers on mine and I really liked the look a lot better without them.
Old     (maxx_wake)      Join Date: Sep 2003       04-08-2009, 5:32 AM Reply   
Actually my 90 is still in my profile pic. I havent updated that in awhile.
Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-08-2009, 6:01 AM Reply   
do you have any pics of your boat after taking the stickers off?
Old     (dh03r6)      Join Date: Mar 2007       04-08-2009, 7:07 AM Reply   
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Old     (da_mose)      Join Date: Apr 2008       04-08-2009, 9:06 AM Reply   
Matt

Here is some pic of my 89 sunsport after I removed the stickers.
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Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-08-2009, 9:14 AM Reply   
damn thats clean. very good looking boat. im assuming thats the new dimension tower. i am very close to ordering one, how do you like it?
Old     (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       04-08-2009, 9:19 AM Reply   
Wow, that boat is in mint condition, Matt. Score!

Nice pink & turquoise. Not much you can do about the pink piping in the interior, but if the pink on the hull is not a decal but in the fiberglass, you could do some vinyl decals over it to update the look quite a bit...... maybe black or dark blue?
Old     (lovin_the_wake)      Join Date: Jul 2007       04-08-2009, 9:25 AM Reply   
Matt G, You just made my day for so long I have thought I was the only Sunsport owner that had the pink piping on the interior and pink stripes on the outside lol Sick boat though
Old     (wakemikey)      Join Date: Mar 2008       04-08-2009, 10:23 AM Reply   
I couldn't use New Dimension because it doesn't collapse flat enough to fit under my boat lift.

Awesome lookin boat you will so love it!! Get ready to surf...
Old     (elbastardo)      Join Date: Mar 2008       04-08-2009, 10:50 AM Reply   
I like my ND tower, but like Mikey said, it doesn't collapse low enough to fit through a standard garage door. Also, if you get the ND board racks, you will need to get new hardware. They give you 1 tiny bolt, which will rip right out of the tower--you need to reinforce with a longer bolt and a big washer.
Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-08-2009, 7:21 PM Reply   
thanks for the input guys.

hey montgomery...you know how someone gets really good at something and suddenly anything they do is cool? like when shawn white started wearing a hankerchief like an old school train robber. i am hoping to get so good that people will think the pink is cool....haha.
Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-08-2009, 7:23 PM Reply   
i am also lucky enough to have a 9 foot garage door so i AM HOPING it will fit under that. (the nd tower that is)
Old     (maxx_wake)      Join Date: Sep 2003       04-08-2009, 7:30 PM Reply   
Here is a pic of mine without the stickers.

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Old     (mhunter)      Join Date: Mar 2008       04-08-2009, 9:30 PM Reply   
89 Sunsport pink accent stripe and piping.

[IMG]http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/suprahunter/SkiDogHHRSupraPicture010-1.jpg[/IMG]
Old     (da_mose)      Join Date: Apr 2008       04-09-2009, 8:39 PM Reply   
Matt
The answer to your question Yes its a New Dimention Tower I put it on a few years back and I love it, it folds forward really easy and only takes a few mins.

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Old     (jcurtis)      Join Date: Mar 2007       04-09-2009, 9:49 PM Reply   
da mose, what type of cover is that and are you happy with it?
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       04-10-2009, 8:46 AM Reply   
Da mose, is that at Chelan? Your Sunsport might be the best looking of that vintage that I have seen.

I really like the look of that New Dimensions Clone tower but how tall is it? My tower on my Mob V was so friggin low, especially with speakers on it.

Has anybody seen one of these with a Titan I or II. One of the things that I like most about the older boats like that is the windshield. It allows you to sit on the side of the boat while putting around the lake. I think you would still be able to do this with the Titan. Only problem is that I am not sure if it would look that good.
Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-10-2009, 8:56 AM Reply   
i havent even checked it out yet, but can i take the ski pole out of mine. if so, how difficult is it?
Old     (dh03r6)      Join Date: Mar 2007       04-10-2009, 9:09 AM Reply   
You can take it out, its held in with screws the angles are tricky.
Old     (illkid)      Join Date: Sep 2006       04-10-2009, 9:10 AM Reply   
Hey Mose, it's almost riding season...got the dry suit all dry cleaned, pressed and ready for the big dance. Lets do this! P.S. lets get that fully auto 2500# ballast system you've been dreaming about installed...
Old     (elbastardo)      Join Date: Mar 2008       04-10-2009, 9:12 AM Reply   
I originally wanted a Titan on mine, but I couldn't figure out how to get the mounts to fit right. Yes, you can take the ski pylon out. There are 4 bolts that you can access through the engine box. Once those are loose, you can just slide the pole out. I stuck a piece of flat plastic (a lid from something in the garage) in there to fill the hole. Makes it feel much roomier.
Old     (elbastardo)      Join Date: Mar 2008       04-10-2009, 9:16 AM Reply   
Here is a pic with pylon out.
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Old     (salty87)      Join Date: Jul 2002       04-10-2009, 10:15 AM Reply   
i left mine out when i rebuilt the floors. mine was rusted together, wouldn't come apart.

saltare, not sunsport
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Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-10-2009, 10:28 AM Reply   
thanks guys. the boat is pretty clean so there should not be an issue with rust. (although who really knows)
Old     (da_mose)      Join Date: Apr 2008       04-10-2009, 11:41 AM Reply   
Joe
That cover is from skiboatcovers.com its a good cover but i got to get cutouts for the tower still.
Old     (da_mose)      Join Date: Apr 2008       04-10-2009, 11:51 AM Reply   
Hey Brett
Yep thats the Grandveiw or old Caravel hotel right across from Campbells Resort last summer.
I'm not really sure how tall it is I'm 5'10 and I have to reach up to touch my speakers so its way up there I got to stand on the engine cover to hook up the rope.
Old     (da_mose)      Join Date: Apr 2008       04-10-2009, 11:58 AM Reply   
Willson
Lets go anytime had Old Blue on Stevens Monday it f$$kn cold but butter. Yeah I'm ready to start my ballast system and a bigger swim step this year.
Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-12-2009, 6:59 PM Reply   
i was working on my boat today and saw the round metal piece on the front. i am thinking that it is for an anchor but it seems as though it could put a lot of pressure on the front light. i am just wondering what it is for.
Old     (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       04-12-2009, 9:24 PM Reply   
Is it a lifting ring?
Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-13-2009, 5:20 AM Reply   
i suppose it could be, but why would you "lift" the front end of the boat? But now that i think about it it does look like a lifting ring.
Old     (maxx_wake)      Join Date: Sep 2003       04-13-2009, 5:45 AM Reply   
I took the pylon out of mine also but it didnt come out easily. I took the bolts out but I think it was somehow bent/rusted in place after years of use with an extended pylon. I had to cut it out which was somewhat of a pain. Also, since mine was permanently removed I kind of regreted taking it out when I went to sell the boat.

(Message edited by maxx_wake on April 13, 2009)
Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-13-2009, 6:46 AM Reply   
i got my ski pole out with no problems. i am now in the process of making another aluminum plate identical to the one i removed only solid. shouldnt take but an hour or so.
Old     (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       04-13-2009, 7:50 AM Reply   
Lots of inboard boats have lifting rings. The transom rings are where you lift in the rear. Typically it would be just for pulling it off the trailer to launch or store it. The manufacturer uses them more during the building process than most owner use them during the boat's lifetime. I had them on my 205 & removed it. And liked the clean look a lot better.
Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-13-2009, 8:38 AM Reply   
thanks bill. i am going to look into taking it off.
Old     (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       04-13-2009, 9:11 AM Reply   
As I recall there was a threaded rod from the bottom of the lifting ring to the bow ring. I had to cut that rod & got access to it by removing the bow seat. It was a royal PITA.
Good luck.
Old     (wotan)      Join Date: Jul 2008       04-13-2009, 9:48 AM Reply   
Love all the old school supra pride.... anyone know who sells cupholders like I can see in the above pictures? My boat is in BAD need of cupholders!
Old     (da_mose)      Join Date: Apr 2008       04-13-2009, 11:16 AM Reply   
Here's a pic from my Supra Sunsport owners manual on lifting or Hoisting !!!

Sorry for the fuzzy pic, the high rez scans didn't compress very well but you get the idea anyway.

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Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-14-2009, 3:54 AM Reply   
thats pretty neat. thanks cmosley. im new to the world of inboards and am wondering the best way to trailer the boat after use. should i just drive it on the same way i did my I/O?
Old     (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       04-14-2009, 7:47 AM Reply   
Thats pretty much how I do it, Matt. There are little details that are different (no outboard to lift before you drag it up the ramp). But if your using a trailer & a ramp, it's really the same.

I know it seems weird, but some people don't use ramps or trailers. There are places on Puget Sound near Seattle & private lakes in eastern WA. where the boat is stored on a rack or cart, and lifted to & from the water by a crane. It's definitely not the norm any more though.
Old     (wakemikey)      Join Date: Mar 2008       04-14-2009, 7:54 AM Reply   
With an I/O you drive up to the trailer and crank it on. With carpeted bunks the boat should NOT be cranked on. The carpet must be underwater and drive the boat all the way on. If it won't go on straight, the trailer is in too deep. :-)

IMHO I wouldn't remove the lifting rings.
Old     (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-15-2009, 12:42 PM Reply   
wakemikey, hit me up with a pm if you read this and dont mind.

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