Biden for Prez - Non-Wakeboarding Discussion

(shawndoggy) · (shawndoggy) **Join Date: Nov 2009** 02-02-2021, 1:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Also if you look at the statute, it also is for those who are underage and address that those charges are almost always probation and treatment. Indiana ran the same thing. Get caught underage and you get put in to probation and treatment. Everyone knows the earlier in life you start drinking and drugs, them more likely hood you will have bigger issues later.

Sortof, but you are reading it wrong. Subsection 2 is the general rule, subsection 4 was the carve out for under 21, and subsection 5 provided for a parole and probation assessment for someone under 21 on their first offense. Over 21 and you're stuck with subsection 2.

New rule "flattened" the crime so no distinction between under 21 and 21 and over. New rule is misdemeanor, misdemeanor, gross misdemeanor, felony (on 4th offense). After the change in 2001, all offenders, regardless of age got the option of drug court (diversion program) on 1st and 2nd offenses.

(xstarrider) · (xstarrider) **Join Date: Jun 2007** 02-02-2021, 1:58 PM

Gues the plan of implementing tyrannical rule is off and running.

42 executive actions as of few days ago and climbing daily.

Looking more and more like China.

(shawndoggy) · (shawndoggy) **Join Date: Nov 2009** 02-02-2021, 2:09 PM

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Originally Posted by xstarrider

Gues the plan of implementing tyrannical rule is off and running.

42 executive actions as of few days ago and climbing daily.

Looking more and more like China.

Curiously you didn't object to Trump's record setting number of executive orders in his first year tho?

Joe still has a ways to go to get to 55.

(95sn) · (95sn) **Join Date: Sep 2005** 02-02-2021, 4:08 PM

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Originally Posted by xstarrider

Gues the plan of implementing tyrannical rule is off and running.

42 executive actions as of few days ago and climbing daily.

Looking more and more like China.

Appears you cant decide to use the sleepy/dementia Joe smears or whine old Joe is working over time removing much of your cult leaders work.

America First.
https://www.fedhealthit.com/2021/01/...ng-to-it-gear/

(xstarrider) · (xstarrider) **Join Date: Jun 2007** 02-03-2021, 1:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 95sn

Appears you cant decide to use the sleepy/dementia Joe smears or whine old Joe is working over time removing much of your cult leaders work.

America First.
https://www.fedhealthit.com/2021/01/...ng-to-it-gear/

Guy just eliminated thousands of jobs with swipe of a pen at a time when quality jobs are at a premium. That’s seems like a great policy to rush through.

(DeltaHoosier) · (DeltaHoosier) **Join Date: Mar 2018** 02-02-2021, 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shawndoggy

Sortof, but you are reading it wrong. Subsection 2 is the general rule, subsection 4 was the carve out for under 21, and subsection 5 provided for a parole and probation assessment for someone under 21 on their first offense. Over 21 and you're stuck with subsection 2.

New rule "flattened" the crime so no distinction between under 21 and 21 and over. New rule is misdemeanor, misdemeanor, gross misdemeanor, felony (on 4th offense). After the change in 2001, all offenders, regardless of age got the option of drug court (diversion program) on 1st and 2nd offenses.

I don't disagree with the change, I just think the talk of it not being addictive is a false one. You don't reasonably do something that you truly believe is going to send you to prison especially if your reasoning centers have not been stunted as you grow into adulthood. Getting high is not a choice if I believe I am going to live in a 10 by 10 with other dudes for a few years. If it is not a choice, then it must be an addiction. Kids don't have good reasoning skills. Adults should understand what is at stake and should correct. Either they are addicted or the enforcement of the crime is no where need for a rational adult to worry for their freedom.