and furthermore, regarding that classified document that dumb b*tch leaked about the russians attempt of tampering with the voter machines but couldnt--
hackers cover themselves well. very very well. if a hacker were to TRY to mess with voting machines and experiment, they sure as sh*t would do it in a way to make it look like someone else was doing it.
if you know anything about hacking, you should know the FBI, NSA, and CIA cant wave a magic wand with every piece of evidence and conclude with 100% certainty who did it.
They possess the tools allowing any hacking of theirs to be untraceable, even by themselves. and those tools have long been leaked. who do you think was able to get their hands on them before being publicly leaked? use your brain.
those who believe they are all powerful and all knowing are absolutely ignorant.
and furthermore, regarding that classified document that dumb b*tch leaked about the russians attempt of tampering with the voter machines but couldnt--
hackers cover themselves well. very very well. if a hacker were to TRY to mess with voting machines and experiment, they sure as sh*t would do it in a way to make it look like someone else was doing it.
if you know anything about hacking, you should know the FBI, NSA, and CIA cant wave a magic wand with every piece of evidence and conclude with 100% certainty who did it.
They possess the tools allowing any hacking of theirs to be untraceable, even by themselves. and those tools have long been leaked. who do you think was able to get their hands on them before being publicly leaked? use your brain.
those who believe they are all powerful and all knowing are absolutely ignorant.
There's a lot of irony in this last sentence considering all of your ramblings.
Didn't we all STOP caring what the Left had to cry about after November the 8th 2016, the crying from progressive left has not Nor should you expect it to stop untill they loose again next go round. This FBI hearing proves it. The Left has nothing to add except Doubt, speculation, & ridicule. Isn't it great to know that all the Left has to do for the next 4 years is complain about the current administration,
And don't you all find it funny how Main stream media was ridiculing Trump for his use of twitter pretty funny how lots of world leaders are now using the same method you all were so critical of
Thank You President Trump. Free Speech for all religions.
What? Even those dune coon Muslims?
It should just be free speech, i don't see how religions come in to it, everybody is free to say nonsensical stuff so religions are covered by default.
and furthermore, regarding that classified document that dumb b*tch leaked about the russians attempt of tampering with the voter machines but couldnt--
hackers cover themselves well. very very well. if a hacker were to TRY to mess with voting machines and experiment, they sure as sh*t would do it in a way to make it look like someone else was doing it.
if you know anything about hacking, you should know the FBI, NSA, and CIA cant wave a magic wand with every piece of evidence and conclude with 100% certainty who did it.
They possess the tools allowing any hacking of theirs to be untraceable, even by themselves. and those tools have long been leaked. who do you think was able to get their hands on them before being publicly leaked? use your brain.
those who believe they are all powerful and all knowing are absolutely ignorant.
You would be surprised how easy it is to find out who actually did it. They pinpointed it to Russia right away, and Putin admitted it was Russia, but that they were "just Russian Patriots". So...
https://youtu.be/qiLyhqfdpOg . Senator Fienstein can you tell us how somebody receiving a government salery ..albiet a very good on.. has accumulated wealth that is 1000 to 10000times that of any ordinary person making the same wages. You have assumed chairmanship of the Senate Select Committee overseeing 16 agencies have you ever discussed with anyone in your family regarding projections of arms sales or has anyone directly related to you benefited financially from such? Senator Sessions please go after these evil monsters they are destroying our nation. Investigate now and stop the BS that is destroying our Country. Good men like you and Donald Trump are being prevented from Making America Great Again.
https://youtu.be/qiLyhqfdpOg . Senator Fienstein can you tell us how somebody receiving a government salery ..albiet a very good on.. has accumulated wealth that is 1000 to 10000times that of any ordinary person making the same wages. You have assumed chairmanship of the Senate Select Committee overseeing 16 agencies have you ever discussed with anyone in your family regarding projections of arms sales or has anyone directly related to you benefited financially from such? Senator Sessions please go after these evil monsters they are destroying our nation. Investigate now and stop the BS that is destroying our Country. Good men like you and Donald Trump are being prevented from Making America Great Again.
https://youtu.be/uCj99LB0hPs Well i guess the democrats finally did something positive and got Otto Warmbier released. Dennis and the North Korean leader have something in common booze and women. Lots of women.
https://youtu.be/qILsKn7gqNEAG Jeff Sessions screw the committee you should have claimed the 5th like previous 5 top democrats before you. You are too good of a man. Those Evil bastards want to hang you on any word.
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Hydraulic engineer here. Plumbing and heating design. Two semi functional "liberals". What are the odds on that?
E.E./Computer for me.
Odds are rather low, yet I guess to be a liberal with an interest in wakeboarding you probably have to be an engineer ha.
With that said, I still think the whole Evergreen thing is brutally wrong. Was more so just pointing out that Dennis can't distinguish between how different a K-12 situation is vs a liberal arts college.
Both took shop class and built the brains behind military simulators.
I think the people at Evergreen need to deal with their own issues. Not really a concern of mine. Although it seems like the guy on that video is maneuvering for a big lawsuit payout. Either that or he's quite the snowflake. Who the f**k refuses to take a paid day off?
Both took shop class and built the brains behind military simulators.
I think the people at Evergreen need to deal with their own issues. Not really a concern of mine. Although it seems like the guy on that video is maneuvering for a big lawsuit payout. Either that or he's quite the snowflake. Who the f**k refuses to take a paid day off?
I actually kind of respect his POV on the situation. The idea of sending whites home for a day from school is hypocrisy in the finest, and they are also apparently making the school rather unsafe for whites by doing this as is shown by it. But who knowns, maybe the guy is just trying to get some money out of it.
And yes, safe to say we took "shop" class ha.
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06-14-2017, 8:53 AM
Do you want to know why Hillary lost the election.
Wanting to know isn't the issue. It's a matter of not getting enough electoral votes. Or are you referring to how gullible one has to be to vote for Trump?
Fienstein broke the liberal code of no matter how evil a fellow democrat is you never admit it or go after them instead blame the republicans for not knowing anything. Wait until she gets back to San Francisco. For sure there is going to be hell to pay for Sen. Fienstein.
Senator Harris are you in collusion with SEIU? Senator Harris have you ever stopped the sale of a Catholic Hospital in order to pay off favors from the Communist SEIU union? Senator Harris do you constantly interrupt colleagues? Senator Harris do you have the biggest mouth in Washington?
And that is why it will not happen. If Killary would have won the 2nd Amendment would have been on its way out by now. One more reason i am grateful that America voted in the right candidate. A revolution is underway to take back America from the Evil Communists.
And that is why it will not happen. If Killary would have won the 2nd Amendment would have been on its way out by now. One more reason i am grateful that America voted in the right candidate. A revolution is underway to take back America from the Evil Communists.
What revolution? So far all I've seen is a bunch of stoners kicking the **** out of conservatives while cops look on.
He's wants the taxpayer to shell out $50K a year for every pot smoker he can catch.
Great, Sessions is probably making sure schools in Alabama are still showing Reefer Madness as required viewing. Way to move back towards the 50's, Pull Nancy Reagan out of the grave and fire up "Just say No" and start that campaign with the egg in the frying pan since that worked so well.
Sessions is a tool. He showed how believable he is during the questioning yesterday. Harris schooled him as did plenty others. Almost every answer was "I cant answer that" or a made up legal reason such as "longstanding Justice department policy" that does not exist, or that Trump may, in the future claim executive privilege, even if he has not sited executive privilege. If there is nothing to hide....why not answer the questions. Too much smoke, there is going to be fire spotted in the future.
What revolution? So far all I've seen is a bunch of stoners kicking the **** out of conservatives while cops look on.
No. Antifa got the **** beat out of them. Right wing volunteered giving up protection devices before the Trump Rally, but not the Commies. Bike locks, bricks, bombs, knives ,mace would not protects them. **** Antifa in their so called home of Berkeley. Even the Canadians respect the Victory at Battle of Berkeley.
Any of you snowflakes wanna explain why one of your own poster boys just shot up baseball practice? Think the liberal, hate-filled media might have anything to do with it? Good thing is we don't have to waste any of our money on a trial.
Any of you snowflakes wanna explain why one of your own poster boys just shot up baseball practice? Think the liberal, hate-filled media might have anything to do with it? Good thing is we don't have to waste any of our money on a trial.
As much as conservative media had to do with the Dylan Roof shootings.
5 sources speaking on the basis of condition of anonymity. Like i said fake news. Come on man..
When the lead of the special counsel for the FBI, who I may add was endorsed by both parties, says there is an investigation, that is not "fake news". I don't care what Trump Tweets.
When the lead of the special counsel for the FBI, who I may add was endorsed by both parties, says there is an investigation, that is not "fake news". I don't care what Trump Tweets.
It was Trumps dumbass tweets that dug this hole. There wouldn't be an investigation into obstruction if he kept his damn mouth shut & just fired Comey.
but, I find that Fox offers more reasoning behind their slanted stories, while MSNBC offers opinion without the attempt at logic to back it up.
That's just what I've noticed, but having said that, I admit to being more easily swayed to the right
The actual *news* component of fox really isn't bad. I like Fox News Sunday (Chris Wallace) a lot. Even though it's called Fox News Sunday, I'm pretty sure it only airs on fox affiliates, not on fox news. But it's good, and Wallace gives it to both sides pretty fairly.
What fox should do to restore (create?) its reputation as a reputable news source would be to just cut the pundits loose and create Fox News Blowhards, or something like that. The Hannity/Carlson/Fox 'n Friends kinda stuff is what undermines Fox's legitimacy for me.
Even though I personally identify as being on the more liberal end, I can't watch MSNBC at all. Way too much self congratulations and sniffing of their own farts. If I'm gonna watch a circle jerk, I'd rather make fun of the other side than watch my own team engage in that embarrassment.
If I'm gonna watch a circle jerk, I'd rather make fun of the other side than watch my own team engage in that embarrassment.
And that right there is exactly what is wrong with our current issues. Simpletons breaking it down to team D or team R & acting like a bunch of idiot sport fans over politics.
but, I find that Fox offers more reasoning behind their slanted stories, while MSNBC offers opinion without the attempt at logic to back it up.
You have to put in more effort when you are trying to convince the public that up is down.
The bottom line is that 24/7 news is not really news very much. There isn't enough "interesting" news to keep people watching. So you have to indoctrinate them into believing that non-issues are issues and they need to stay tuned for every breaking detail.
And that right there is exactly what is wrong with our current issues. Simpletons breaking it down to team D or team R & acting like a bunch of idiot sport fans over politics.
This couldn't be more true. I'm so ****ing over people supporting sides no matter what the ideal is.
And that right there is exactly what is wrong with our current issues. Simpletons breaking it down to team D or team R & acting like a bunch of idiot sport fans over politics.
This is true. But it's also because people are so polarized over the issues. At that point the issues aren't important. Which side wins is the issue.
The right wants to defund PP because they solely care about abortion and don't care about poor women getting HC. The left see that as an attack on poor women.
The right wants to boost the economy by allowing laxer standards on polluting. The left sees that as an attack on the quality of our environment.
The right wants to divert money from public schools to religious schools. The left sees that as an attack on an already strapped for funds public school system.
The right wants to go after states that have loosened marijuana laws and approved medical pot. The left sees that as an authoritarian attack on individual rights.
The right wants a govt regulated HC system that's only serves those who can afford it without much regard to how many people have no access. The left sees that as an attack on our right to have access to HC.
The right wants a President that acts like a goofball. The left sees that as an attack on the integrity of our nation and disrespectful to the executive office.
The right wants to pretend that it can solve the debt problem by lowering taxes on the wealthy and cutting services to the poor. The left doesn't know how to solve the debt problem but knows it doesn't start by finding new ways to concentrate wealth at the top.
So yeah... The political divide is mostly about which vastly divergent ideology you subscribe to. You don't need to focus on the issues when the division is so clear. I think the HC issue is the one that may ultimately help being us back together. At first everyone thought that the right simply needed to repeal the ACA. So easy considering that they were all in agreement over that when Obama was President. But now they know they can't do that anymore because the narrative that everyone believed wasn't true. HC is the real threat our nation faces right now, because it's the issue that affects more of the public that any other single issue.
WRT the last claim that right wants a goofball.... It's not so much they wanted a goofball as it is they'll accept one as long as the goofball is on the right side of the ideological divide.
This couldn't be more true. I'm so ****ing over people supporting sides no matter what the ideal is.
Exactly. I'm way better off seeking out the views of those I don't agree with. I'm not frequently persuaded (but sometimes I am), but I always get a better understanding of the issues.
that's amusing John. It looks like you think that the representatives in Washington are reflective of what the right actually wants. I know that my friends and I
don't agree with any of those points. well, we might agree that anyone is better than a democrat that wants to redistribute wealth
and don't bother, I am already familiar with your examples of wealth redistribution
oh, and healthcare......healthcare would have been better off if left alone. It's a trainwreck now. We can all agree that the problem is cost.....actual cost of doctors visits, medicine, effects of lawsuits....etc. Address the real problem instead of jacking my premiums up in order to pay for lazy Betty's healthcare
that brings up what I know the rights' biggest complaint to be......social program waste and enabling
I'm sure that we disagree there too, but to be clear, I hate all kinds of waste of money, not just from the left.
I do believe in the separation of church and state. I know that there are several issues where this crosses the line. I'm in favor of removing all of them if need be.
I do find it convenient that the left wants to remove anything christian from buildings and currency, but are okay with the government funding of abortion
The right, at least those that I know, don't necessarily want to outlaw abortion, just remove the federal government from it. This is, in my opinion, how it should be.
If the left would help offer up capitalistic solutions instead of vilify, perhaps everyone could win on this. Again, there will always be the extremist....always
every time that I see a news piece about planned parenthood, or a rally against, I just shake my head. The media, public, and even politicians just get this one wrong.
I was hoping that Trump would be the guy that was matter of fact and came out and said......look, I'm not advocating one extreme side or the other. I'm not trying to eliminate PP or abortion. I'm just saying that the federal government shouldn't be involved
That, in my opinion, is why Trump won. People were hoping that real talk would ensue and someone would make the unpopular buy necessary choices.
I'm not saying that the representatives reflect what they want. I'm saying the representatives reflect who voted for them. You voted for the right and you get what the right offers. Saying that HC was better left alone reflects the idea that you got what you want and "lazy betty" can suffer because she's too lazy to stop working long hours supporting 3 kids at a crappy job when it was just a simple matter of her pulling her up by her bootstraps and making a better life for herself. The problem is that if you assessment of "lazy betty" is actually wrong and more people are denied access to HC, then ultimately they will overthrow your elected ideologists and replace them with theirs. Then the ball is in the other court where they can make jokes about "deplorable clff".
The question is how can you separate what the "right" wants from what the right voted for? The right voted to repeal the ACA. Check 1 on my list. The right voted for defunding PP. Check 2 on my list. The right voted for loosening environmental regulations. etc... So after getting what you voted for and defending the guy you voted for, how can you claim that you didn't want any of the things on my list?
I can claim that because , like you in the past, I voted against the other guy. I, like many, vote against things and not always for things.
I don't believe that I have much power to put someone like me into office. You get the lesser of 2 evils
I also disagree with your HC care comments. You are assuming that we only had one option and that because I don't want my situation to worsen, I must not care about lazy Betty. This is a typical belief from the left, and it's perpetuated in the media. Instead of improving every ones situation lets have lazy Betty only work 2 jobs and republican guy can either pick up a 2nd job, or take less profits......NO
The right wants to go after states that have loosened marijuana laws and approved medical pot. The left sees that as an authoritarian attack on individual rights.
States rights is actually a pretty interesting issue, and how folks come down seems to be more driven by the particular issue at hand rather than the principle of states rights generally. For example:
stewardship of public lands
legalization of marijuana
access to abortion
It makes sense that people are more focused on the issues than state's rights. Nobody gives a crap about states rights until it becomes entangled with an issue that the person feels passionate about.
Cliff, the problem with the HC issue is that people are prevented access to HC because of cost. Costs are inflated by a number of things the govt does. Therefore the govt becomes obligated to do something about it. You want the govt to not take responsibility for issues that it created because it's not something that you really understand or maybe just don't agree with. You are probably going to respond that you never wanted the govt to do those things. But you as an individual doesn't translate to the public at large. The public at large repeatedly voted in representatives that created the problem, and therefore the public at large is responsible. And unfortunately for you, you are part of the public. The only way out is to move to some place where the public either doesn't exist or has no say over it's governing.
I understand your points John. I also appreciate that we can discuss things without getting into the violent name calling like others here tend to do...
that finger was pointed at those from both points of view
I understand the frustration. It's just not my thing anymore....I'm to old and busy
And that right there is exactly what is wrong with our current issues. Simpletons breaking it down to team D or team R & acting like a bunch of idiot sport fans over politics.
well, we might agree that anyone is better than a democrat that wants to redistribute wealth
Cliff, here is something to think about. Think 50 years in to the future and imagine what the world looks like when automation/robots eliminate the need for millions of current jobs. What happens to society when we don't need manual labor.
Seem far fetched? We are less than 10 years away from automated vehicles, currently driving a car/truck is one of the largest employment sector in the US economy, what happens to these people when cars and trucks drive themselves more safely and cheaper than humans? What are these people going to do under the current administration, dig coal? LOL.
We need to start talking about a universal wage/reduction in the hours for the working week imo.
Cliff you realize that no govt funds are used for abortions right? I assume you know this, so I'm not sure what you mean wrt the fed govt being "involved."
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