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Old     (Wakeboarder15)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-28-2011, 7:19 PM Reply   
Im looking for some input from anyone that can give me some. Right now i currently ride behind a 1989 Ski Nautique with a pylon, 500lbs rear sac, 2 - 250lbs side sacs, 70lb sand bag in front and 150lbs of cement under the back seat. The wake is pretty good but looking for a bigger wake. I found a 2000 Malibu Wakesetter Escape LSV for sale with the MLS ballast. I was wondering how the two wakes would compare. I have ridden behind my friends 2002 Super Air quite a bit and a 2004 Malibu VLX a couple of times. I would love a wake like those boats but cant afford it. If anyone could let me know how those wakes compare with each other that would be great.

Old     (Wakeboarder15)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-28-2011, 9:21 PM Reply   
It also has the Wedge as well.
Old     (ache_for_wake)      Join Date: Jan 2006       10-30-2011, 10:42 AM Reply   
I haven't ridden behind an '89 Nautique, but I do have a 2000 Escape that I basically converted to a wakesetter. I built my ballast system, so it's got a lot more weight than the stock system, and I put a Titan tower on it. It also doesn't have the wedge.

The Escape is on the diamond hull, so it needs A LOT more weight than a comparable sized boat with a wake hull. I run (all flyhigh sacs) 750# sac in each rear locker, 600# sac in the floor locker (probably holds about 450-500#) and 150# sac under each of the bow seats (I cut out the built-in coolers to accomodate). With this amount of weight and just a driver, the wake is big and rampy. By rampy I mean it doesn't have an abrupt lip that shoots you up, it's a bit more gradual and will send you to the flats. I'm a bigger guy (6'1" and 225#) and I have no problem pulling intermediate inverts off of it. With the wedge down you will get a much steeper wake and you won't need as much weight in the back. I would say with the wedge the wake would be similar to the '04 VLX. I had to move the batteries from the starboard rear locker to under the glove box to make room for my 750# and that was a bit of a pain, but in the end totally worth it.

The best thing about the Escape is that it's a big boat and you can get a lot of people and/or weight in it. Mine has the older version of the Hammerhead engine (stroked to make it a 383) and I run an ACME 537. It's a fricken tractor out of the hole. Hardly any delay to get on plane with ballast full and loaded with people.

I don't know if that helps you much, but if you have any other questions about the Escape I'd be happy to try and answer them. A lot of people will say that the Escape is not the best wake boat, but I think that if your willing to mod it a little bit it's a GREAT wake boat. Especially if the price is right, and you will use it for other things besides wakeboarding. I can party with 13 people or still barefoot behind mine at 43mph if I want to!
Old     (rexlex01)      Join Date: Mar 2010       02-17-2014, 6:39 PM Reply   
Is this price about right?

Would you take the SAN over the escape if it was a 2002 and same price or the vlx instead?
How did the SAN compare to your weighted Escape?
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       02-19-2014, 2:21 PM Reply   
I had the same Malibu Wakesetter in a 2001. The Wedge is a must, and I agree with Chad on the weight config. My boat responded well to being evenly loaded, and HEAVY. A lot of people knock this hull but I got it to produce a big, meaty wake, even by today's standards.
Old     (nitrousbird)      Join Date: Sep 2008       02-19-2014, 4:36 PM Reply   
If you can afford an Escape, you can afford a SV23 hull. Your friend's VLX is on the SV23 which Malibu offered in V-drive form on various models (Sunsetter, Wakesetter and Vride depending on the year) from '96 - '08. Just get an older model.
Old     (jhartt3)      Join Date: Jan 2012       02-20-2014, 5:54 AM Reply   
Go with the VLX. I just picked up a 1999 Sunsetter VLX with the SV23 wake hull for 14.5k in the fall you should be able to find one around the price of that LSV.
Old     (jhartt3)      Join Date: Jan 2012       02-20-2014, 6:14 AM Reply   
i know you said Bu or nautique but here is an MC for a pretty good deal. the straboard side wrap around seating didnt come til 2000 in the X star but it already has PP


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