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Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-30-2020, 8:36 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by 95sn View Post
Keep posting memes, and panic about 6 blocks in Seattle. this isnt going away.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/30/u...elligence.html
The juicy bits:

American officials intercepted electronic data showing large financial transfers from a bank account controlled by Russia’s military intelligence agency to a Taliban-linked account, which was among the evidence that supported their conclusion that Russia covertly offered bounties for killing U.S. and coalition troops in Afghanistan, according to three officials familiar with the intelligence.

Though the United States has accused Russia of providing general support to the Taliban before, analysts concluded from other intelligence that the transfers were most likely part of a bounty program that detainees described during interrogations. Investigators also identified by name numerous Afghans in a network linked to the suspected Russian operation, the officials said — including, two of them added, a man believed to have served as an intermediary for distributing some of the funds and who is now thought to be in Russia.

Afghan officials this week described a sequence of events that dovetails with the account of the intelligence. They said that several businessmen who transfer money through the informal “hawala” system were arrested in Afghanistan over the past six months and are suspected of being part of a ring of middlemen who operated between the Russian intelligence agency, known as the G.R.U., and Taliban-linked militants. The businessmen were arrested in what the officials described as sweeping raids in the north of Afghanistan, as well as in Kabul.

Regarding the White House briefing for the democrats, they are trying their hardest to make it look like nothing, but with little reasoning.

Both people said the intent of the briefing seemed to be to make the point that the intelligence on the suspected Russian bounty plot was not clear cut. For example, one of the people said, the White House also cited some interrogations by Afghan intelligence officials of other detainees, downplaying their credibility by describing them as low-level.
Is that the latest Russia-gate? The latest future-impeachment cause? Better call Mueller back. I need to be briefed by my Fox News masters before I can respond. I haven’t followed that story at all.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-30-2020, 8:39 AM Reply   
Oh and it’s in The NY Times no less. They love Trump and I’m sure their entire story is credible too.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       06-30-2020, 8:46 AM Reply   
[QUOTE=xstarrider;1999400]
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Why shouldn’t the KKK get the same voice and social media opportunities to spew their garbage like BLM ? Same class of movements.


Oh by the way, convenient to run and disappear from the discussion. when the questions got simple and direct . Crickets every single time ..........OWNED AGAIN
I erroneously assumed kkk was a terrorist organization. My bad.
Run and disappear? No man. Right here. Weird you want to own a man. Whatever, enjoy.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       06-30-2020, 8:50 AM Reply   
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Oh and it’s in The NY Times no less. They love Trump and I’m sure their entire story is credible too.
It is in virtually every paper across the country. Try your duck, duck, goose search engine and report back.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       06-30-2020, 8:58 AM Reply   
Here is just one.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...rump-intel.amp
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-30-2020, 9:10 AM Reply   
So Mount Rushmore is about white supremacy now? Democrats have completely lost their minds. Democrats are now after Washington too. democrats are bigger idiots than anyone ever knew. actually they are not idiots. They know what they are doing. they have thrown the covers off. They have exposed their marxist hands. Tear down the past is one of the tenants of marxism.

Dems tweet then delete post linking Trump's Mt. Rushmore event to ‘glorifying white supremacy’

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...at-mt-rushmore
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       06-30-2020, 9:24 AM Reply   
Hey Delta, at least they had the second thought and deleted it. Not the best worded tweet.
But lucky for you more violent Dems are being banned. oh. wait.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v...rce=reddit.com
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       06-30-2020, 11:00 AM Reply   
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So Mount Rushmore is about white supremacy now? Democrats have completely lost their minds.
Agree. You would think providing a credible alternative to Trump wouldn't be that hard but they seem determined to make reasonable people give them the side eye. Why is the political system so broken it produces these people?
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       07-01-2020, 4:37 AM Reply   
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Why is the political system so broken it produces these people?
our current primary system gives a lot of power to extreme/motivated factions. You've frequently got to cow-tow or appease the crazies to get to the general election. Historically electeds have then moved to the center... but in recent years there's been a trend towards moving farther from center to really keep the crazier faction motivated. Mostly among republicans, but dems in safe house seats seem to be increasingly leaning this way too.

I don't recall ever having a president who was so overtly polarizing by pandering to his own base. I know that many here will say obama was polarizing, but one of the chief complaints against him on the left is that he never went far enough (i.e. he always tacked back towards center).
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       07-01-2020, 4:50 AM Reply   
The idea that Obama was polarizing is almost as silly as the idea of "center" in American politics. Even moderate dems are center right compared to the rest of the world.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-01-2020, 5:09 AM Reply   
Crickets from the "Trump is tougher on Russia than Obama" people. WH having trouble with their changing reaction as news sources keep reporting more. So they change the story again, and again.
Trump is now defending himself not just by claiming he wasn’t briefed on that intelligence, or just by contesting the significance of that intelligence. Instead, he’s declaring that the entire story simply doesn’t exist — that is, he’s suggesting no intelligence ever actually indicated anything like this.

Yet this defense is itself deeply self-incriminating. It only underscores what critics are saying — that at minimum, Trump should be taking this intelligence seriously and trying to get to the bottom of what it actually does indicate, even if the worst interpretation proves wrong.

We have gone from he didn't know about it to it wasn't credible to it's a hoax that doesn't exist. Blame someone else?
Who are these "best people" who keep the briefings from him? Who hired them? Who is responsible?
Now that we all know Putin put bounties on American soldiers....what is he doing about it?
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       07-01-2020, 5:23 AM Reply   
Bush II cabinet secretaries and other administration officials start a PAC to support Biden in November.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN24253R

"“We know what is normal and what is abnormal, and what we are seeing is highly abnormal. The president is a danger,” said Jennifer Millikin, one of the 43 Alumni organizers, who worked on Bush’s 2004 re-election campaign and later in the General Services Administration."

“This November, we are choosing country over party,” said Purcell. “We believe that a Biden administration will adhere to the rule of law... and restore dignity and integrity to the White House.”
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       07-01-2020, 6:24 AM Reply   
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Bush II cabinet secretaries and other administration officials start a PAC to support Biden in November.
Obvious RINOs
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       07-01-2020, 6:38 AM Reply   
No doubt lol. But how many more rustbelt and Floridian RINOs can Hair Furrer afford to lose?
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-01-2020, 7:05 AM Reply   
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Hey Delta, at least they had the second thought and deleted it. Not the best worded tweet.
But lucky for you more violent Dems are being banned. oh. wait.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v...rce=reddit.com
Yet, Antifa is more than likely going strong on there.

They made the tweet because it is who they are. They are not only tweeting, they are putting it in action through continued violence in most major cities. Tearing down statues, rioting, you name it. Democrat leadership is absolutely quiet on this and in some cases like Obama coming out of the wood work is encouraging it.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-01-2020, 7:06 AM Reply   
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Bush II cabinet secretaries and other administration officials start a PAC to support Biden in November.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN24253R

"“We know what is normal and what is abnormal, and what we are seeing is highly abnormal. The president is a danger,” said Jennifer Millikin, one of the 43 Alumni organizers, who worked on Bush’s 2004 re-election campaign and later in the General Services Administration."

“This November, we are choosing country over party,” said Purcell. “We believe that a Biden administration will adhere to the rule of law... and restore dignity and integrity to the White House.”
Bush is part of the swamp that sold American workers to NAFTA. Don't care what they say on this.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       07-01-2020, 7:12 AM Reply   
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Bush is part of the swamp that sold American workers to NAFTA. Don't care what they say on this.
I know you don't care how many voters you lose, it's all good. You and Mark have been written off, don't worry no one is trying to change what's left of your mind lol.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-01-2020, 7:13 AM Reply   
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Crickets from the "Trump is tougher on Russia than Obama" people. WH having trouble with their changing reaction as news sources keep reporting more. So they change the story again, and again.
Trump is now defending himself not just by claiming he wasn’t briefed on that intelligence, or just by contesting the significance of that intelligence. Instead, he’s declaring that the entire story simply doesn’t exist — that is, he’s suggesting no intelligence ever actually indicated anything like this.

Yet this defense is itself deeply self-incriminating. It only underscores what critics are saying — that at minimum, Trump should be taking this intelligence seriously and trying to get to the bottom of what it actually does indicate, even if the worst interpretation proves wrong.

We have gone from he didn't know about it to it wasn't credible to it's a hoax that doesn't exist. Blame someone else?
Who are these "best people" who keep the briefings from him? Who hired them? Who is responsible?
Now that we all know Putin put bounties on American soldiers....what is he doing about it?
More media driven hoax. Regardless, Taliban was paid by any number of sources to kill US troops. How many proxy wars have been fought between Russia and the US? Pretty much every single one. get out of here with your bull****
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-01-2020, 7:13 AM Reply   
[QUOTE=95sn;1999403]
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I erroneously assumed kkk was a terrorist organization. My bad.
Run and disappear? No man. Right here. Weird you want to own a man. Whatever, enjoy.
Yes. Democrats are terrorist organization.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-01-2020, 7:45 AM Reply   
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Yet, Antifa is more than likely going strong on there.

They made the tweet because it is who they are. They are not only tweeting, they are putting it in action through continued violence in most major cities. Tearing down statues, rioting, you name it. Democrat leadership is absolutely quiet on this and in some cases like Obama coming out of the wood work is encouraging it.
Coming out of the wood work? Hey man, Obama is a counter puncher. Trump called him out with the Obamagate BS. Obama when hit...hits back harder. Is that wrong?
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-01-2020, 7:47 AM Reply   
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Bush is part of the swamp that sold American workers to NAFTA. Don't care what they say on this.
Im a little busy to look it up. What did trumps NAFTA change?
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       07-01-2020, 7:57 AM Reply   
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Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-01-2020, 8:05 AM Reply   
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More media driven hoax. Regardless, Taliban was paid by any number of sources to kill US troops. How many proxy wars have been fought between Russia and the US? Pretty much every single one. get out of here with your bull****
So is trump doing anything about this? Why is trump pushing for Putin to get back into G6 while he is putting bounties on American soldiers? Not sure how you can blame the media, they just reporting on trumps incompetency. Why is trump rewarding Putin? Removing troops from Afg. removing troops from Germany. Approving Russia stealing Crimea, saying he believes Putin and not American intelligence? Everything he does supports Russia. Killing Americans now part of the GOP policy? Remember their big change to satisfy trump as he became their candidate? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7610621.html
Gonna have a difficult time with the military vote in Nov. Maybe he should hug more flags?
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       07-01-2020, 9:16 AM Reply   
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Im a little busy to look it up. What did trumps NAFTA change?
The biggest change was the name, it's called U.S.M.C.A now.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       07-01-2020, 10:04 AM Reply   
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So is trump doing anything about this? Why is trump pushing for Putin to get back into G6 while he is putting bounties on American soldiers? Not sure how you can blame the media, they just reporting on trumps incompetency. Why is trump rewarding Putin? Removing troops from Afg. removing troops from Germany. Approving Russia stealing Crimea, saying he believes Putin and not American intelligence? Everything he does supports Russia. Killing Americans now part of the GOP policy? Remember their big change to satisfy trump as he became their candidate? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7610621.html
Gonna have a difficult time with the military vote in Nov. Maybe he should hug more flags?
Lets be honest, anything reported, is so far from accurate, and incomplete, that its not even worth talking about. There are so many factors, with 3rd party intel, its something the government would have to evaluate for accuracy, You have the afghans, Iranians , Russians etc etc all looking to put our military at risk. Why is this a talking point?
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-01-2020, 10:05 AM Reply   
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The biggest change was the name, it's called U.S.M.C.A now.
Sounds like a song by the Village People.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-01-2020, 10:23 AM Reply   
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Lets be honest, anything reported, is so far from accurate, and incomplete, that its not even worth talking about. There are so many factors, with 3rd party intel, its something the government would have to evaluate for accuracy, You have the afghans, Iranians , Russians etc etc all looking to put our military at risk. Why is this a talking point?
The WH has confirmed. accurate.
Congress has been informed. accurate
Parents of dead soldiers expect answers. minimum standard for mourning parents.
Its a talking point because anytime Russia is involved corporal Bonespurs caves to Putin. The decisions he makes is best for Putin, not America. Did he run on America Second? Troops dont matter?
Its all out now. What is he doing?
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-01-2020, 11:17 AM Reply   
Here you go Doug. There is no question accuracy or that it is true. Only the response.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...leged-n1232698
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       07-01-2020, 3:03 PM Reply   
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Yip, cracked 40k for the first time yesterday. If you believe the experts then in another week you'll probably be at 50k new cases per day and death rate should be climbing back towards 2k per day. If you believe trump it will very soon back to zero. Let's see what happens.
So cracked 50k today, less than a week after cracking 40k. No real bump in death rate yet tho, either they are getting better at treating it, it's getting weaker or the patients just haven't dropped dead yet. Should know in a couple of weeks or so I guess
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       07-01-2020, 5:31 PM Reply   
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Here you go Doug. There is no question accuracy or that it is true. Only the response.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...leged-n1232698
Let me guess. The only hope is to impeach and remove Trump, right? Oh and abolish the cops, pay 20 trillion in reparations to thugs and make it illegal to ever arrest any black person for any reason ever. Free medical to all-especially illegal aliens, mandatory teaching of queer sexual practices so-as to make those practices “normal” and let’s not forget..... tear down every single sculpture, painting, statue or piece of art that includes a white guy. Did I miss anything?
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-02-2020, 2:57 AM Reply   
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Let me guess. The only hope is to impeach and remove Trump, right? Oh and abolish the cops, pay 20 trillion in reparations to thugs and make it illegal to ever arrest any black person for any reason ever. Free medical to all-especially illegal aliens, mandatory teaching of queer sexual practices so-as to make those practices “normal” and let’s not forget..... tear down every single sculpture, painting, statue or piece of art that includes a white guy. Did I miss anything?
Yes, you missed the point of the discussion. The discussion is about trump knowing about his pal Vladimir Putin had put cash bounties on American soldiers in Afghanistan and his lack of response to this. He says he believes Putin. What do you think a rational response from the United States should be, might be a place to start.
The rest is BS, more emotional whining. You are the only one talking up your vivid partisan imagination and falsely implying somehow that is what democrats seek. Pointless emotions again.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       07-02-2020, 3:33 AM Reply   
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Yes, you missed the point of the discussion. The discussion is about trump knowing about his pal Vladimir Putin had put cash bounties on American soldiers in Afghanistan and his lack of response to this. He says he believes Putin. What do you think a rational response from the United States should be, might be a place to start.
The rest is BS, more emotional whining. You are the only one talking up your vivid partisan imagination and falsely implying somehow that is what democrats seek. Pointless emotions again.
Imagination and falsely implying??? The things I listed were things you libtards march to, protest for and scream about publicly!
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       07-02-2020, 3:35 AM Reply   
To all you WW libtards, here’s how the world looks at you.

https://m.facebook.com/liberalprivil...079857%2F&_rdr
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       07-02-2020, 3:51 AM Reply   
I’d love to see every single one of these democrats arrested.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fed...by-white-house
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       07-02-2020, 4:23 AM Reply   
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Im a little busy to look it up. What did trumps NAFTA change?
I'm more interested in how Bush is responsible for NAFTA.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-02-2020, 5:17 AM Reply   
EU population 445 million people, Total Covid cases yesterday 3550.
US population 330 million people, Total Covid cases yesterday 50,000
Arizona, population, 7.3 million people, Total Covid cases yesterday 4870

One state in US has more new cases than the entire EU. AZ isnt even #1 in US. There were 8000 in TX. 9700 in CA. Over 10,000 in FL No wonder they wont let US citizens into Europe.

This is how the world looks at and reacts to America, the worlds worst at controlling Covid. But feel free to be fascinated by Facebook posts.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       07-02-2020, 5:41 AM Reply   
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EU population 445 million people, Total Covid cases yesterday 3550.
US population 330 million people, Total Covid cases yesterday 50,000
Arizona, population, 7.3 million people, Total Covid cases yesterday 4870

One state in US has more new cases than the entire EU. AZ isnt even #1 in US. There were 8000 in TX. 9700 in CA. Over 10,000 in FL No wonder they wont let US citizens into Europe.

This is how the world looks at and reacts to America, the worlds worst at controlling Covid. But feel free to be fascinated by Facebook posts.
Waaaaaaaa! Orange man bad. Waaaaaaa! It’s all Trump’s fault!

Maybe you and your pals should get together, yell, scream and protest some more. Break some more windows of struggling businesses while you’re at it too. That’ll make this virus go away, right? My bet is the libtard protests are what caused the most significant amount of this uptick in cases.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       07-02-2020, 5:44 AM Reply   
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EU population 445 million people, Total Covid cases yesterday 3550.
US population 330 million people, Total Covid cases yesterday 50,000
Arizona, population, 7.3 million people, Total Covid cases yesterday 4870

One state in US has more new cases than the entire EU. AZ isnt even #1 in US. There were 8000 in TX. 9700 in CA. Over 10,000 in FL No wonder they wont let US citizens into Europe.

This is how the world looks at and reacts to America, the worlds worst at controlling Covid. But feel free to be fascinated by Facebook posts.
Still zero cases in my zip code.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       07-02-2020, 5:50 AM Reply   
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Waaaaaaaa! Orange man bad. Waaaaaaa! It’s all Trump’s fault!

Maybe you and your pals should get together, yell, scream and protest some more. Break some more windows of struggling businesses while you’re at it too. That’ll make this virus go away, right? My bet is the libtard protests are what caused the most significant amount of this uptick in cases.

Does data bear that out? We had a couple of pretty small protests in my city (probably 1000 people or fewer at each one). Not much different in size than the MAGA protests at the governor’s mansion come to think of it.

Those one-offs look bad, and video b roll can be played over and over on TV. But is suspect that the constant day-in-day-out everyday crowds of people at backyard parties, the water park, sporting goods stores, Costco, bars, restaurants, casinos, beaches, etc are the real way the virus continues to spread.

But I ain’t got data either, just my intuition.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-02-2020, 6:14 AM Reply   
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EU population 445 million people, Total Covid cases yesterday 3550.
US population 330 million people, Total Covid cases yesterday 50,000
Arizona, population, 7.3 million people, Total Covid cases yesterday 4870

One state in US has more new cases than the entire EU. AZ isnt even #1 in US. There were 8000 in TX. 9700 in CA. Over 10,000 in FL No wonder they wont let US citizens into Europe.

This is how the world looks at and reacts to America, the worlds worst at controlling Covid. But feel free to be fascinated by Facebook posts.
So what you are saying it, testing for COVID is catching up and now hacks like you are using it for politics? Say it ain't so. chicken little pos
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       07-02-2020, 6:15 AM Reply   
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/he...c-88788922d47b
https://theconversation.com/rural-am...to-show-140532

Yeah, not liberal protests lol.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-02-2020, 6:16 AM Reply   
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Waaaaaaaa! Orange man bad. Waaaaaaa! It’s all Trump’s fault!

Maybe you and your pals should get together, yell, scream and protest some more. Break some more windows of struggling businesses while you’re at it too. That’ll make this virus go away, right? My bet is the libtard protests are what caused the most significant amount of this uptick in cases.
Im posting facts, you are posting emotional gibberish. The break outs are primarily in Red states. Live and learn.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-02-2020, 6:16 AM Reply   
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Does data bear that out? We had a couple of pretty small protests in my city (probably 1000 people or fewer at each one). Not much different in size than the MAGA protests at the governor’s mansion come to think of it.

Those one-offs look bad, and video b roll can be played over and over on TV. But is suspect that the constant day-in-day-out everyday crowds of people at backyard parties, the water park, sporting goods stores, Costco, bars, restaurants, casinos, beaches, etc are the real way the virus continues to spread.

But I ain’t got data either, just my intuition.
If protesting was not bad, then neither are those activities. At least those activities are not a communist revolution.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-02-2020, 6:17 AM Reply   
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Still zero cases in my zip code.
Excellent and congrats, lets keep it that way. Things are a little different in other areas.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-02-2020, 6:18 AM Reply   
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Im posting facts, you are posting emotional gibberish. The break outs are primarily in Red states. Live and learn.
So. Break away. There has NEVER been a promise that people will not get it. You constant droning on does not change reality. Pull the band aid fast or slow. Still have to pull it off. Only rich elites like you get to stay in a little bubble and bitch.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-02-2020, 6:20 AM Reply   
Yep. Political narrative has now officially changed from COVID death to simply COVID positive tests. Good to know.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-02-2020, 6:24 AM Reply   
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So what you are saying it, testing for COVID is catching up and now hacks like you are using it for politics? Say it ain't so. chicken little pos
Im not sure you understand. or you are a complete idiot. AZ, our 16th largest state (7.3 M) has more covid cases than the entire EU (445M), who just re-opened and has an American Ban. Can you do your political math on the board so I can see how you get confused. Do you think the EU stopped testing? They are ramping it up.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...pe-by-country/
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-02-2020, 6:28 AM Reply   
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If protesting was not bad, then neither are those activities. At least those activities are not a communist revolution.
https://globalnews.ca/news/7130932/t...america-first/
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-02-2020, 6:39 AM Reply   
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So. Break away. There has NEVER been a promise that people will not get it. You constant droning on does not change reality. Pull the band aid fast or slow. Still have to pull it off. Only rich elites like you get to stay in a little bubble and bitch.
Are you going to put the bar that low, watch yor step, dont trip. That somehow if the Gov't doesnt promise to help in a world wide pandemic then they are not responsible? WTF? Im doing my part, expect everyone should.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       07-02-2020, 6:45 AM Reply   
Delta just comes around to demonstrate his newfound (deliberate?) stupidity. It's in line with gop politicians around the country (Maryland gov excepted).
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-02-2020, 8:33 AM Reply   
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Im not sure you understand. or you are a complete idiot. AZ, our 16th largest state (7.3 M) has more covid cases than the entire EU (445M), who just re-opened and has an American Ban. Can you do your political math on the board so I can see how you get confused. Do you think the EU stopped testing? They are ramping it up.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...pe-by-country/
So? Everyone is going to get it. That has NEVER CHANGED. I do not know how you are so confused by that. Either you get it slow or you get it fast. EVERYONE IS GOING TO GET IT.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-02-2020, 8:35 AM Reply   
You are such a moran (Moron on to the rest of the world).

You mean like the Marine Corp Eagle, Globe and Anchor?

Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-02-2020, 8:37 AM Reply   
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Are you going to put the bar that low, watch yor step, dont trip. That somehow if the Gov't doesnt promise to help in a world wide pandemic then they are not responsible? WTF? Im doing my part, expect everyone should.
You are not doing any part. You are a rich guy who obviously can buy and smoke his way out of social interaction and you choose to spend your time being chicken little on the internet. The whole world would love to have your problem but they don't and they can't.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-02-2020, 8:39 AM Reply   
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Delta just comes around to demonstrate his newfound (deliberate?) stupidity. It's in line with gop politicians around the country (Maryland gov excepted).
Yet democrat politicians sent active COVID cases purposely to old folks homes.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       07-02-2020, 8:48 AM Reply   
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Yet democrat politicians sent active COVID cases purposely to old folks homes.
Suuuuuure. You and Trump are conspiracy theorist peas in a pod.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-02-2020, 8:57 AM Reply   
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You are not doing any part. You are a rich guy who obviously can buy and smoke his way out of social interaction and you choose to spend your time being chicken little on the internet. The whole world would love to have your problem but they don't and they can't.

You only think im rich. Im only doing what i feel i should be doing for my current situation (caring for octogenarians, i do PT), I call that being smart, not rich. Personally not worried, im super healthy due to good food and 15 years of morning bootcamps. I havnt bought a bud in over 25 years, dolt. Appears you are the little chicken pretending nothing is wrong. Trump again yesterday said it will all go away like a miracle, i hope soon. He has surrendered like the quitting loser he is. Its what he does when he cant lie his way out of a problem. Claim HOAX, lie, go BK and on to the next grift. SOP for trump.
It is a world wide pandemic and the USA has over 25% of all the deaths in the world, not cases, not hospitalizations, Deaths. Thats a problem. A problem that will kneecap Trump in Nov.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       07-02-2020, 9:09 AM Reply   
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Yep. Political narrative has now officially changed from COVID death to simply COVID positive tests. Good to know.
If you believe the experts deaths follow cases by 2-4 weeks so we should know if the deaths rate is going to spike like the case rate just has. If it doesn't then something has changed, either they are getting better at treating or the virus is starting to get less potent. Either would be fantastic news.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       07-02-2020, 9:10 AM Reply   
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If you believe the experts deaths follow cases by 2-4 weeks so we should know if the deaths rate is going to spike like the case rate just has. If it doesn't then something has changed, either they are getting better at treating or the virus is starting to get less potent. Either would be fantastic news.
Or it could be more testing as Trump says but the evidence doesn't support that talking point.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-02-2020, 9:47 AM Reply   
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You only think im rich. Im only doing what i feel i should be doing for my current situation (caring for octogenarians, i do PT), I call that being smart, not rich. Personally not worried, im super healthy due to good food and 15 years of morning bootcamps. I havnt bought a bud in over 25 years, dolt. Appears you are the little chicken pretending nothing is wrong. Trump again yesterday said it will all go away like a miracle, i hope soon. He has surrendered like the quitting loser he is. Its what he does when he cant lie his way out of a problem. Claim HOAX, lie, go BK and on to the next grift. SOP for trump.
It is a world wide pandemic and the USA has over 25% of all the deaths in the world, not cases, not hospitalizations, Deaths. Thats a problem. A problem that will kneecap Trump in Nov.
The world is going to get it too. Just like the blue states had a spike because of density, the red states will get it too but delayed due to less dense population. I am not chicken little. I know we are all going to get it. It sucks. Don't want it for anyone. I am not blaming politicians. It is what it is. This only proves once again your tirade about shutting down for a couple weeks was complete fantasy. Red States shutting down would have done nothing because there was not an issue there at the time. Now that there are issues, each state will look at it individually and do what they have to do to not be over ran. So what. That is the truth to life. Either live or hide from it.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-02-2020, 9:49 AM Reply   
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If you believe the experts deaths follow cases by 2-4 weeks so we should know if the deaths rate is going to spike like the case rate just has. If it doesn't then something has changed, either they are getting better at treating or the virus is starting to get less potent. Either would be fantastic news.
I agree. Spike or no spike. People are going to get it. They have been working on corona virus vaccines for 20 years. What make people think there is a home run around the corner?
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       07-02-2020, 10:06 AM Reply   
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I agree. Spike or no spike. People are going to get it. They have been working on corona virus vaccines for 20 years. What make people think there is a home run around the corner?
The fiscal motivation to develop a vaccine for a corona virus has been historically low, the two most common types just give you the common cold. SARS-CoV-2 is obviously a bit more destructive than the common cold and it seems stable so the chances to develop a vaccine is probably pretty good. Besides the Orange Messiah said we would have a vaccine soon, so yeah.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       07-02-2020, 10:10 AM Reply   
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Spike or no spike. People are going to get it.
The other point is if you can allow people to get it in a controlled way then at least you can avoid the hospitals being overrun and people dying unnecessarily. That will take some measures of mask's, social distancing rules and in outbreak scenario lockdown. But you need to have a clear, well communicated plan to manage that effectively or your compliance will be terrible and the measures will be ineffective. More people will die than necessary.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       07-02-2020, 10:20 AM Reply   
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Im not sure you understand. or you are a complete idiot. AZ, our 16th largest state (7.3 M) has more covid cases than the entire EU (445M), who just re-opened and has an American Ban. Can you do your political math on the board so I can see how you get confused. Do you think the EU stopped testing? They are ramping it up.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...pe-by-country/
Why are some so worried about other countries, Lets focus on ours, and not worry about what others think.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       07-02-2020, 10:29 AM Reply   
people need to stop worrying about others actions, and start worrying about their own. If you want to be safe, stay home, lock your doors and wait it out. If you are willing to have a certain level of risk, then go to the store, go to work, if you are stupid, and have no fear, then go to a protest, without a mask, for 12 hours non stop, yelling and spiting on each other, ******* to bellybutton for 2 weeks straight.

The estimates are off the charts, take every protest across the country, over the last month, and its millions of people. millions, all smashed together rioting, and looting and sharing their covid.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-02-2020, 10:53 AM Reply   
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I agree. Spike or no spike. People are going to get it. They have been working on corona virus vaccines for 20 years. What make people think there is a home run around the corner?
What makes people think that?
Well, there is that guy in DC that keeps saying that it will all go away, like a miracle. That Hydroxy will kill it, that a great bright light will kill it in seconds and also bleach, Lysol can kill it.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-02-2020, 10:56 AM Reply   
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I agree. Spike or no spike. People are going to get it. They have been working on corona virus vaccines for 20 years. What make people think there is a home run around the corner?
What other country in the world is using this strategy as their response to Covid? Dimwit.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-02-2020, 11:03 AM Reply   
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Suuuuuure. You and Trump are conspiracy theorist peas in a pod.
Talk to the New York Gov. Sounds like public record to me.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-02-2020, 11:03 AM Reply   
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Why are some so worried about other countries, Lets focus on ours, and not worry about what others think.
There is no reason to worry about other countries, they are worried about us inflicting damage to them. Can you recall a time when any country put a ban on Americans? Isnt that type treatment for third world countries or other bad actors?
The reason i used the comparison is because it shines a light on how terrible we are doing as a country. One small state with a fraction of the people (7M to 445M) has more daily cases than the entire European Union. Plus it one of the hottest states in the country, wasnt summer supposed to help? Why do we suck so bad at this?
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-02-2020, 11:04 AM Reply   
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The fiscal motivation to develop a vaccine for a corona virus has been historically low, the two most common types just give you the common cold. SARS-CoV-2 is obviously a bit more destructive than the common cold and it seems stable so the chances to develop a vaccine is probably pretty good. Besides the Orange Messiah said we would have a vaccine soon, so yeah.
Well this version has already morphed into two different variations
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-02-2020, 11:05 AM Reply   
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The other point is if you can allow people to get it in a controlled way then at least you can avoid the hospitals being overrun and people dying unnecessarily. That will take some measures of mask's, social distancing rules and in outbreak scenario lockdown. But you need to have a clear, well communicated plan to manage that effectively or your compliance will be terrible and the measures will be ineffective. More people will die than necessary.
That is why it is managed state by state. Federal does not have the power to do so unless congress votes to give the power to the president to take over.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-02-2020, 11:07 AM Reply   
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What makes people think that?
Well, there is that guy in DC that keeps saying that it will all go away, like a miracle. That Hydroxy will kill it, that a great bright light will kill it in seconds and also bleach, Lysol can kill it.
Why are you trying to quote Trump? actually bright light/ heat will kill it. It needs moisture to spread. Thus social distance because it will dry prior to infecting you in airsole small enough to travel. You know this. You just want to be internet bitch about everything Trump guy. Of course we all know this.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-02-2020, 11:09 AM Reply   
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Why are some so worried about other countries, Lets focus on ours, and not worry about what others think.
Because democrats are one worlders. They want our borders destroyed and merge with UN control. The infection of how they think is root of their neurosis.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-02-2020, 11:09 AM Reply   
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people need to stop worrying about others actions, and start worrying about their own. If you want to be safe, stay home, lock your doors and wait it out. If you are willing to have a certain level of risk, then go to the store, go to work, if you are stupid, and have no fear, then go to a protest, without a mask, for 12 hours non stop, yelling and spiting on each other, ******* to bellybutton for 2 weeks straight.

The estimates are off the charts, take every protest across the country, over the last month, and its millions of people. millions, all smashed together rioting, and looting and sharing their covid.
You do understand people need to stop worrying about others actions, and start worrying about their own. If i wear a mask, i protect you, inversely when you were a mask you protect me. If you dont wear a mask you are forcing me to take risk while I protect you. Thats why everyone needs to mask up. It is only fair.
After that you fall back on FOX news emotional BS. Read above posts showing protests were not a big driver.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-02-2020, 11:10 AM Reply   
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What other country in the world is using this strategy as their response to Covid? Dimwit.
If the rest of the world used a great strategy, then why has it not vanished from the rest of the world? They will either get it fast or they will get it slow, but one thing is constant. They will get it unless they go full on isolation.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-02-2020, 11:11 AM Reply   
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You do understand people need to stop worrying about others actions, and start worrying about their own. If i wear a mask, i protect you, inversely when you were a mask you protect me. If you dont wear a mask you are forcing me to take risk while I protect you. Thats why everyone needs to mask up. It is only fair.
After that you fall back on FOX news emotional BS. Read above posts showing protests were not a big driver.
If hundreds of thousands are not a driver, then how in the hell are you going to say someone going to the store is a driver?
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       07-02-2020, 11:24 AM Reply   
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The fiscal motivation to develop a vaccine for a corona virus has been historically low, the two most common types just give you the common cold. SARS-CoV-2 is obviously a bit more destructive than the common cold and it seems stable so the chances to develop a vaccine is probably pretty good. Besides the Orange Messiah said we would have a vaccine soon, so yeah.
Also if fiscal motivation was an issue, AIDS and Cancer would be cured. They have treatments, but people still get it and plenty of people still die. Same with the flu. There are flu shots every year but tens of thousands die every year from the flu.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       07-02-2020, 11:42 AM Reply   
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Also if fiscal motivation was an issue, AIDS and Cancer would be cured. They have treatments, but people still get it and plenty of people still die. Same with the flu. There are flu shots every year but tens of thousands die every year from the flu.
AIDs is pretty much cured now, people still get it but you can manage the symptoms pretty well and have a somewhat normal life. And you can pretty much avoid getting it with lifestyle management. And it there wasn't any danger of it crashing the economy. The same isn't true for an air borne virus like Sars2.

Cancer isn't a communicable disease or a monolith, there are many many illnesses which live under the cancer barrier so don't really see it as a valid comparison.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-02-2020, 11:43 AM Reply   
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Why are you trying to quote Trump? actually bright light/ heat will kill it. It needs moisture to spread. Thus social distance because it will dry prior to infecting you in airsole small enough to travel. You know this. You just want to be internet bitch about everything Trump guy. Of course we all know this.
You asked who was saying there was a home run to fix it all. I answered your question factually.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-02-2020, 11:59 AM Reply   
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That is why it is managed state by state. Federal does not have the power to do so unless congress votes to give the power to the president to take over.
The FED could do plenty to help states manage. They could be the purchasing agent and sell PPE to states at a single reasonable price, they are not. Forcing states to do on there own makes small states compete with large states to purchase, they get price gouged (our taxes) or shut out. New york Gov has been saying this since early March. Federalize the supply chain. States are ****ing each other over because they all need the same thing and they need it yesterday. Instead trump set up a handful of zero experience donors and friends of the admin to be salespeople for PPE. Then these new "business owners" control who gets what, when and at what price. Its all been reported on, the "vendors" trump picked had incorporated their medical supply corps only days before getting multi million dollar contracts. Never had sold a single piece of medical supplies in their lives, now they run the industry. Mis****ingmanagement.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       07-02-2020, 1:08 PM Reply   
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You do understand people need to stop worrying about others actions, and start worrying about their own. If i wear a mask, i protect you, inversely when you were a mask you protect me. If you dont wear a mask you are forcing me to take risk while I protect you. Thats why everyone needs to mask up. It is only fair.
After that you fall back on FOX news emotional BS. Read above posts showing protests were not a big driver.
I am not saying you should not wear a mask. I also dont care what other countries are doing to control their issues. I do care that we stop the BS and understand its a virus, its here, there are no waves of it, its going to be what it is. Wear a mask, wash your hands, etc etc, but if you are concerned with getting it, stay home, its only a matter of time, and as we see, with millions protesting for endless days, some of the left dont care (millions yes millions of protesters, for weeks on end, in all areas of the county) and yes, some on the right dont care. So lets stop the BS and realize, some dont care. My 22 yr old just got her 14 day clearance, she had it, minor to no symptoms, no idea how she got it. she followed all the rules. So, if you want to bitch about it, stay home until its over, or accept it, its not going anywhere anytime soon. You may have already had it and dont even know.

So its now getting to the point that people need something to bitch about, well its all bitched out. Its going to be apart of our lives until a vaccine. Just like AIDS, prior to prophylactic medications to control it. Please dont give me that BS that protesting, like we have all been seeing is not spreading the virus.

There are some that want others to act in a certain way, I get it, i dont think you are going to get the younger population to just "follow the rules" The risk factor for health, young people is so low that they really dont have to care. i dont agree with that, but thats what it is.

If you want to help, ask your liberal groups to beg people to stop protesting, stop spreading the virus, Get the word out, if we stop millions of protesters from spreading the virus, we could lower the spread. 1 infected protestor will infect 4 others, so do the math. We know extending periods of time, in close contact is the #1 cause of viral loading. #2 people spitting, yelling, screaming in peoples faces are a problem, #3 bandanas do very little, especially when 3000 people sit, in protest, yelling at police, in a line, while they asspack behind each other, spitting and yelling over each others shoulders.

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