Dallas cop speech

Originally Posted by psudy

Then that would constitute a criminal investigation and they would disarm you(and you would be breaking another law by having it). I thought you were saying they could just disarm you for a simple traffic stop which apparently I misread.

Correct. A broken taillight shouldn't entail disarming you, if it does, you may want to call 911 using Siri and put them on speaker phone and keep your hands on your head or the steering wheel while you call for backup!

delta where does that data for that article you cut and pasted come from?

about 120 cops a year die in the line of duty; about 1000 people are killed by cops every year. About 100 of those killed by cops every year are black. where does the 18x number come from?

If you are black, you are 2.5x more likely to be shot and killed by police than if you are white: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.555658baa924

Could not read your mind. I guess we did. I still stand by the 2nd. Bad things happen to good people sometimes. Of course this would not have happened if useful idiots were not led to it by leftist democrats. All this is allowed to happen by obama. He could easily tell black people to knock it off. He absolutely knows what would happen by the words he chose. It happened the last two times after the words he used why does he not think it would be any different. He could have said that protestors would be handled immediately and for them to stay inside and that know one knows the facts. He chooses not to over and over again.

The facts prove over and over again that the biggest threat to a black man is another black man. The facts prove that cops are 18 times more likely to be killed by a black man than a cop is to kill a black man. Those are verifiable stats. They have the bodies to prove it. Then there are extremely high crime rates in the black communities that you can make some arguments that the stats of blacks vs white may be racially biased due to the nature of law enforcement. As in what Swatguy pointed out. If people are shooting each other by the thousands, it makes sense that the cops would be around to catch people. The small detail in that is that black people are still committing those crimes, it is that white people may not be caught as much doing the crime. People love to wave the flag and point that someone else is doing it too however they are still doing it.

"The facts prove over and over again that the biggest threat to a black man is another black man. The facts prove that cops are 18 times more likely to be killed by a black man than a cop is to kill a black man. Those are verifiable stats. They have the bodies to prove it. "

Can you just post a link to this data? I can't find it anywhere.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

delta where does that data for that article you cut and pasted come from?

about 120 cops a year die in the line of duty; about 1000 people are killed by cops every year. About 100 of those killed by cops every year are black. where does the 18x number come from?

If you are black, you are 2.5x more likely to be shot and killed by police than if you are white: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.555658baa924

I think the stat I saw was calculated in the same way that you calculated the rate of blacks being shot by cops. You have to look at the fact that there are very few cops compared to the black population.

I got most of the data from a Wiki and it sourced the data from various places. They second part of the data was from an article that I linked and it had sources from Washington Post if I recall.

http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com...re-in-the-usa/

Interesting work this guy did trying to prove that police work has been getting safer but accidentally shows that a police officer is 333 to 400 times more likely to be killed with a felonious assault than a private citizen.




This article stats that in 2013 Whites who killed cops was 44 percent and blacks were 37% though it dropped the next year for blacks and rose for whites:

http://www.newsweek.com/who-kills-po...fficers-315701

According to this link :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr...h_data_by_race

non Hispanic Blacks 37,685,848 population 12.2%
non Hispanic whites 196,817,552 population 63.7%

For simplicity, lets say they both did 40%. At that point it does not matter how many were killed. The numbers I saw was around 100 so you are talking a swing of 1 or 2 people deaths. That means you can just look at population:

196,817,552/37,685,848 = 5.2 x as likely for a cop to die by a black man than a white.

I am sure there has be other figures in the 18%.

Interesting article:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/time-to-...ice-1468363042

Also in the article is the 18% quote. I think it is a slight of hand:

Note also that police officers face an 18.5 times greater chance of being killed by a black male than an unarmed black male has of being killed by a police officer.

Delta your quote says "black man," but the data you post is comparing the number of cops to the number of all blacks. So that includes women, babies, children the elderly. You count all of those and the relative disparity gets bigger. Shouldn't the data be broken out? I mean surely most crime is committed by males (of any race) between the ages of 15-35. Would be nice to see it actually broken out like that, since that's the basis for your statement (black males). Or at least broken down to black male adults?

True. Just divide by half for the male population. Numbers still nominally work.

The general topic is black vs white and death by cops. Black vs white murder of cops. Also black on black murder vs white on white murder compared to all murders. Then that morphs to crime in general which is high rate vs whites but that may be bias since cops tend to have to patrol black areas more, however the crimes are being committed white may be under represented.

At the end of the day, I absolutely do not believe that the dead bodies are not misrepresented and those that are shot and did not die are misrepresented. Those are pretty factual. Cops are called in to investigate those period. It has nothing to do with cops in the hood argument.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...k-black-crime/

FACT 1. Over 1,400 more black Americans murdered other blacks in two years than were lynched from 1882 to 1968.

According to FBI data, 4,906 black people murdered other blacks in 2010 and 2011. That is 1,460 more black Americans killed by other blacks in two years than were lynched from 1882 to 1968, according to the Tuskegee Institute.

FACT 2. Black People (mostly men) commit a grossly disproportionate amount of crime.

In 2012, white males were 38 percent of the population and committed 4,582 murders. That same year, black males were just 6.6 percent of the population but committed a staggering 5,531 murders.

In other words: black people–at just a fifth of the size–committed almost 1,000 more murders than their white counterparts.

The figures above highlight a horrific truth that black racialists and white liberals routinely ignore: Lawbreaking black Americans, young black males particularly, put themselves in close proximity to (mostly white male) police officers at rates sometimes five to 10 times higher than whites. This is a recipe for disaster. Thusly….

FACT 3. Despite making up just 13% of the population, blacks committed half of homicides in the United States for nearly 30 years.

DOJ statistics show that between 1980 and 2008, black people committed 52% of homicides.

In 2013, black criminals committed 38% of the murders. Whites accounted for just 31 percent.

There are five times fewer black people than white people in America and, yet, they consistently carry out a larger share of the crimes? Given this rate, it’s no wonder that there aren’t more assistances where cops kill black criminals.

FACT 4. Chicago’s death toll is almost equal to that of both wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, combined.

There have been almost as many deaths in one American city as there have been in the two major wars carried out by the U.S. military this century.

Chicago’s death toll from 2001–November, 26 2015 stands at 7,401. The combined total deaths during Operation Iraqi Freedom (2003-2015: 4,815) and Operation Enduring Freedom/Afghanistan (2001-2015: 3,506), total 8,321.

FACT 5. It would take cops 40 years to kill as many black men as have died at the hands of others black men in 2012 alone.

University of Toledo criminologist Dr. Richard R. Johnson examined the latest crime data from the FBI’s Supplementary Homicide Reports and Centers for Disease Control and found that an average of 4,472 black men were killed by other black men annually between Jan. 1, 2009, and Dec. 31, 2012.

Professor Johnson’s research further concluded that 112 black men died from both justified and unjustified police-involved killings annually during this same period.

Delta, just a link with your conclusions is a lot more helpful to the discussion that a cut-n-paste dump from Breitbart.

Possibly. It can get tedious; however, does it get the point across? I am not making this stuff up. People are not making this up.

The facts do not add up to BLM's claims.

BLM is a leftist front group and obama is helping them. This is leftist 101.

Citation to Breitbart is pretty suspect in itself, sorry to say (as would be a cite to say huffpost or mother jones). It's a place where facts are organized to fit a narrative not necessarily tell the truth (and btw, the cut and pasted article definitely reads like there's an axe to grind).

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

Citation to Breitbart is pretty suspect in itself, sorry to say (as would be a cite to say huffpost or mother jones). It's a place where facts are organized to fit a narrative not necessarily tell the truth (and btw, the cut and pasted article definitely reads like there's an axe to grind).

absolutely and coming from Breitbart is going to be a axe grind. However, I am sure the numbers are easy enough to find with a little research. The article lists were they got the data. My discussion is based mostly on a narrative/ bias as most of the people here.

My narrative is:

- BLM is a lie and a terrorist group that should be dealt with harshly at this point.

Here we go again in France:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/07...d-in-nice.html

At least 60 dead, 100 injured after truck drives into Bastille Day crowd in Nice

I wonder if this was a automatic truck or a stick shift truck? Did it have limited fuel. We should outlaw all trucks and if we do have trucks they should be one gear with 1/4 gallon fuel tanks!!!!!!

Poor people. This is horrible.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

Delta, just a link with your conclusions is a lot more helpful to the discussion that a cut-n-paste dump from Breitbart.

This has been the right wing MO for a long time. It's easy to recognize. The tool makers prepare a huge list of crap that is too much to fact check or bother researching and compiling competing facts. Then their minions can just cut and paste. The unfortunate side effect for many of those minions is they start wearing tin hats. Then quoting Alex Jones.

Originally Posted by fly135

This has been the right wing MO for a long time. It's easy to recognize. The tool makers prepare a huge list of crap that is too much to fact check or bother researching and compiling competing facts. Then their minions can just cut and paste. The unfortunate side effect for many of those minions is they start wearing tin hats. Then quoting Alex Jones.

Sounds like laziness to me to not check them. If you had actual facts, they would be front and center. Trust me, they have armies of people doing the same thing on the left.

Most of the leftist points are emotional and controlling. Sounds more like a bitter ex than anything.

Originally Posted by grant_west

(TheWakeIsReal) I got ya,
WakeTroll = Wake77 he IMO is the resident WakeWorld Troll.

I didn't say $h!t to you dumba$$. That was John that responded to your post. Learn to read an effing reply before you start attacking people, moron.

Ms Atlanta Call Dallas shooter a Martyr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfODkPmD23o

Here is her reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65SfCW6KiJs
She is a POS

OMG anyone who watches Hannity is an idiot. Why would someone who just watched her boyfriend (or whatever) get murdered by a cop feel any compassion for cops getting murdered? I can guarantee you that Hannity would be jizzing his shorts watching a drone kill innocent civilians if there was a terrorist among them also being killed. People are so easily manipulated by these idiotic talking heads on the tube.

John: so let me understand your post. The woman ( Former Ms Atlanta) says the Cop killer is a Mayter and she feels no compashon for the cops that were murderd, and some how you seem to blame a Talk show host. Ummm update your the Idiot! She made her inflammatory comments on Facebook live NOT on a TV Talk show.

Grant, your total lack of perspective is an example of why conservatives have no clue about anything. The woman recently watched her companion get murdered by the police while at the same time the BLM movement is being ridiculed for believing that cops target them unfairly. I even pointed out the hypocrisy by making note of the fact that many right wingers have no problem with innocents dying by actions they support. IOW, by Hannity's argument they don't care about human lives either. But Hannity is just a talking head that ingratiates himself to fools who like hearing that idiotic BS.

While I disagree with her claim that the shooter is a martyr by my standards (he's simply an unstable person that cracked), I have to acknowledge the fact that the actions of martyrs are never supported by everyone. That's the nature of being a martyr by definition. They are simply someone who sacrificed themselves for a cause they believe in.

johnyour total lack of perspective is an example of why YOU have no clue

The woman who made the Facebook live post, that I posted a link to had no relation to either of the men that were shot by police. She made the video and posted it after going to CHURCH!

You my friend are clueless.

Originally Posted by grant_west

The woman who made the Facebook live post, that I posted a link to had no relation to either of the men that were shot by police. She made the video and posted it after going to CHURCH!

You my friend are clueless.

So this is just some random person posting on FB that you and Hannity found interesting? I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of black people feel this way. It's guys like you and Hannity who summarily dismiss their concerns that just make the situation worse.

Just to be clear.... going to church is not something I consider to be a testimonial of a person's great character. Pretty much means nothing.

Yes Fly it was a random woman with no relation to the Victums. Are you up to speed now ?

Originally Posted by fly135

So this is just some random person posting on FB that you and Hannity found interesting? I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of black people feel this way. It's guys like you and Hannity who summarily dismiss their concerns that just make the situation worse.

Just to be clear.... going to church is not something I consider to be a testimonial of a person's great character. Pretty much means nothing.

I would not say she is a random person as much as a black person who has achieved some success. I think it is a testimony to the poison in the black community. It is a position of group think. They can not even look at facts in the cases being rioted over were lies. They ignore the murders of each other and that they will not help the police bring those murderers to justice. They vote overwhelmingly for policies that keep them on the plantation. They want special rights not equal rights.

At this point, do we really care what the concerns are? We have been trying to get jobs to Americans. We keep trying to oppose laws in these democrat areas that push the poor out. We were discussing this today. There are so many local regulations that you can not afford to be poor. If you want to sell or buy an old car, you can't. If it does not pass smog it is near impossible to sell. It does not even matter that the emissions are fine coming out of the tail pipe. If the car has a code, it is illegal. This is just a small example. You nearly have to be a lawyer to make way and heaven forbid if you screw up. It can cause some people almost a weeks pay for a speeding ticket.

It wasn't a random person. She was Miss Atlanta and it was all over MSN. I believe they stripped her of her crown(as they should if you are calling a cop killer a martyr).

Huh? By this logic the Christian community is poisoned based on the Westboro Church. The "white community" is poisoned based on Dylan Roof's statements and actions. The Armenian community is poisoned based on the existence of Kim Kardashian.

Paul, glad to hear the crown was taken away.

Originally Posted by pesos

Huh? By this logic the Christian community is poisoned based on the Westboro Church. The "white community" is poisoned based on Dylan Roof's statements and actions. The Armenian community is poisoned based on the existence of Kim Kardashian.

I would agree with your assessment Wes if this was the only case. I see case after case of this. Hell a BLM group was celebrating after the Dallas incident.

Good news for BLM today. Only 52 people shot and 7 dead in Chicago this weekend alone. According to the Chicago Tribune that is only 2200 shootings including 329 fatalities this year in Obama's adopted home town where he was a community organizer and where they have some of the strictest gun laws in the nation.

Wonder where BLM is when we need them?

Confirmation bias.

Possibly confirmation bias. Just see too many backing videos on this.

The irony of that statement given the context of the discussion lol

Originally Posted by deltahoosier

I would not say she is a random person as much as a black person who has achieved some success. I think it is a testimony to the poison in the black community. It is a position of group think. They can not even look at facts in the cases being rioted over were lies. They ignore the murders of each other and that they will not help the police bring those murderers to justice. They vote overwhelmingly for policies that keep them on the plantation. They want special rights not equal rights.

I think it's testimony to what happens when they say "Black Live Matter" and then are mocked with "All Lives Matter".

What you guys don't seem to understand is that is that if you mock the concerns of a group there will always be crazies that take up the cause with extremist actions. You say they are only acting on lies, but that's BS. Sure the waters are so muddied that they react to lies, but there is far more truth that they are looked at and treated differently by the police because of their color.

It gets even more muddied the longer the issue is disputed. If you have community that has been suffering discrimination for a long time then when the police do something, even legitimately like it appears in the case of Brown, you get witnesses telling lies because in their eyes the police deserve it as a matter of principle. Not showing empathy for people's concerns is the most sure fire way to escalate the rhetoric and violence.

Originally Posted by deltahoosier

At this point, do we really care what the concerns are?

If you are talking people like yourself I think that question was answered long ago.

They want special rights not equal rights.

I agree 100%

All of this BS could have been avoided from the very start if "THEY" (I'm talking about Roaches of ALL color's) could not break the law in they first place! And let's go WAY back! Example you think Rodney King would have got the beat down he did, if he would have just pulled over with out the high speed chase? And followd the simple commands police gave?

Here is my prediction. (I hope I'm wrong) if the investigation into the police concludes that the officers involved in either of the shootings is found to be NOT GUILTY, then more cop Violance or Shootings will go down. I hope I'm wrong!

Grant, I'm not quite sure what you think Castile's "crime" was. You think he should be shot for having a wide nose evidently...?

How communities should be handling this:
http://wtvr.com/2016/07/19/phoenix-p...-as-a-partner/

I "think"Castle's" only Mistake Not CRIME may have been. He did not follow orders! And this is me speculating! This is how I think it went down. (Before the video was rolling) the cop asked him to NOT reach for what ever he was reaching for multiable times & Castle was either Not clear or just Didn't follow orders and the cop shot thinking Castle was gonna pull out a gun instead of a wallet and bang he's dead. Tragic possable mistake.

I come up with this possable scenario because of the Countless videos posted of people not following simple orders while the police are giving order under tence situations. Of corse this is just my 2c

Interesting how you make those assumptions. Why do you keep referring to him as Castle, and in quotes? Am I missing something? His name is Castile.

Assuming only makes an ass out of you and me.

Anybody who thinks race can't play a role in the way police handle a situation haven't taken an American history lesson. And if they did, maybe it was in Texas.

Originally Posted by fly135

I think it's testimony to what happens when they say "Black Live Matter" and then are mocked with "All Lives Matter".

What you guys don't seem to understand is that is that if you mock the concerns of a group there will always be crazies that take up the cause with extremist actions. You say they are only acting on lies, but that's BS. Sure the waters are so muddied that they react to lies, but there is far more truth that they are looked at and treated differently by the police because of their color.

It gets even more muddied the longer the issue is disputed. If you have community that has been suffering discrimination for a long time then when the police do something, even legitimately like it appears in the case of Brown, you get witnesses telling lies because in their eyes the police deserve it as a matter of principle. Not showing empathy for people's concerns is the most sure fire way to escalate the rhetoric and violence.

If you are talking people like yourself I think that question was answered long ago.

John I have have been talking about the lack of concern that democrats have for inner city people for some time. Everyone chiming against the Iraq war but ignoring how many deaths in the inner city.

Blacks are looked at differently because the behavior. Of course there is a history there. I did not have someone yell ****** at me walking down the street like my buddy did. I get all that. Been in plenty fights due to it. However, we all know the race hustlers like Sharpton and Jackson. They sell out black people to get rich. We know why the democrat policies are what they are. It is for power. We see the Nation of Islam threatening to kill all the whites and wanting a 10,000 man army to kill white people. We hear the Black Panthers saying the same thing. We are seeing more and more black people live blogging on these very topics and it warms my heart that black people are finally waking up.

As far as more race baiting hate groups like BLM. No, I don't care one bit what their perceived issues are. My daughters best friend who got a free ride to a private college in the bay area has decided to join BLM. She is receiving a free ride to a $60,000 year institution due to the color of her skin and wants to lecture my daughter on white privilege. Some privilege. I had to struggle for school, lost our family home, get turned down for grants because they would not believe we had no income then had to move 2400 miles away at 19 to hear someone get a freebee like that lecture my daughter who has to pay for school on privilege? GTFOH......

The deaths of blacks in the inner cities are caused by criminals. We pay for a police force to capture those criminals. We pay for a judicial system to prosecute and a prison system to incarcerate them. We even prosecute them harshly for crimes that we believe they will commit (i.e. harsher penalties for crack users) Nobody is at any point suggesting that criminals who are killing blacks should be let off the hook. You cannot use the actions of criminals who we are trying to capture to justify the action of the police who we pay to perform their functions. The deaths in Iraq are the fault of a military we pay for, or the consequences of removing the stabilizing govt by a military we pay for. When we as taxpayers hire someone to do a job, we as taxpayers are responsible for the consequences. Again, we do not justify our actions by pointing at criminals as our model.

As far as white privilege goes, I can relate. I've never felt like the police were a danger to me. When I get stopped for a violation I even anticipate that I will be able to get out of it. Heck, I even got out of two tickets in two stops in one day. I have no doubt that BLM has legitimate concerns. The post about the Phoenix police is exactly what I'd like to see if I was a cop. The last thing as a cop I'd want is people mocking BLM because they are the one's that would be putting me in danger. The police are the one's who pay the price.

And let me be clear.... When you say that democrats are all about power and money. No f*k'n s*t. So are republicans. There is no organization that is more about money using politics than Fox News. Nearly every controversy is now about politics and the political game. Almost nothing is real as in really about the country's problems anymore. What is happening is that every issue that's a symptom of the actual problem is being used to deceive the public into believing that the solution is a simple matter of which party you select. It's all bulls**t. There are two big reasons that I don't like republicans. First, they are too willing to inject religious belief into govt. Second, they are too willing to engage in war as a solution. When it comes to the economy and jobs neither party is going to tell the American people that they are gluttonous and damaging the country by sending jobs and money overseas. Trump tries to portray this as China's fault. No, it's our fault. Why are we buying products with a several hundred billion dollar deficit from a country that under cuts our standards, pollutes the environment, and we are practically going to war with over the South China Sea. Because we are greedy and can never get enough cheap s**t. Bottom line... politics is stupid because the people are stupid.

Cop shoots black man laying on ground. When asked why, his reasoning was.... "I don't know".

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...e90905442.html

Cops shoots dog through fence at child's birthday party. His reasoning? Best anyone can tell he didn't know what fences are for.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-libert...-year-olds-dog

Originally Posted by fly135

Cop shoots black man laying on ground. When asked why, his reasoning was.... "I don't know".

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...e90905442.html

Cops shoots dog through fence at child's birthday party. His reasoning? Best anyone can tell he didn't know what fences are for.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-libert...-year-olds-dog

Man. The Miami one is very very disturbing. And should show people who keep saying, "Maybe if they weren't criminals or resisting arrest they wouldn't get shot in the first place."

Really does make me sick how insensitive people can be towards both sides.

If you're black then you definitely don't want to be carrying a cell phone....

http://www.wptv.com/news/local-news/...by-pbso-deputy

Oh and for all those right wingers screaming about Hillary being above the law, can you imagine what would happen to you if you shot through a fence into a child's birthday party regardless of killing their dog?

Originally Posted by fly135

The deaths of blacks in the inner cities are caused by criminals. We pay for a police force to capture those criminals. We pay for a judicial system to prosecute and a prison system to incarcerate them. We even prosecute them harshly for crimes that we believe they will commit (i.e. harsher penalties for crack users) Nobody is at any point suggesting that criminals who are killing blacks should be let off the hook. You cannot use the actions of criminals who we are trying to capture to justify the action of the police who we pay to perform their functions. The deaths in Iraq are the fault of a military we pay for, or the consequences of removing the stabilizing govt by a military we pay for. When we as taxpayers hire someone to do a job, we as taxpayers are responsible for the consequences. Again, we do not justify our actions by pointing at criminals as our model.

IRONY ALERT. You sure want to drive gun laws by the acts of criminals!!

As far as white privilege goes, I can relate. I've never felt like the police were a danger to me. When I get stopped for a violation I even anticipate that I will be able to get out of it. Heck, I even got out of two tickets in two stops in one day. I have no doubt that BLM has legitimate concerns. The post about the Phoenix police is exactly what I'd like to see if I was a cop. The last thing as a cop I'd want is people mocking BLM because they are the one's that would be putting me in danger. The police are the one's who pay the price.

While I can agree with no poking the bear, one can hardly victim blame when they shoot a member of the police force that are enforcing the laws that we as tax payers pass.

And let me be clear.... When you say that democrats are all about power and money. No f*k'n s*t. So are republicans. There is no organization that is more about money using politics than Fox News. Nearly every controversy is now about politics and the political game. Almost nothing is real as in really about the country's problems anymore. What is happening is that every issue that's a symptom of the actual problem is being used to deceive the public into believing that the solution is a simple matter of which party you select. It's all bulls**t. There are two big reasons that I don't like republicans. First, they are too willing to inject religious belief into govt. Second, they are too willing to engage in war as a solution. When it comes to the economy and jobs neither party is going to tell the American people that they are gluttonous and damaging the country by sending jobs and money overseas. Trump tries to portray this as China's fault. No, it's our fault. Why are we buying products with a several hundred billion dollar deficit from a country that under cuts our standards, pollutes the environment, and we are practically going to war with over the South China Sea. Because we are greedy and can never get enough cheap s**t. Bottom line... politics is stupid because the people are stupid.

Yep. If I am going to vote for a power hungry group of people, I at least want it to be a a group that is for the US first as a general rule.

China is only taking advantage of the trade laws that were nominally passed to increase profits for global businesses and to move American wealth out of the US. I would say that Trump is correct on China because they manipulate their currency.

Originally Posted by deltahoosier

IRONY ALERT.

China is only taking advantage of the trade laws that were nominally passed to increase profits for global businesses and to move American wealth out of the US. I would say that Trump is correct on China because they manipulate their currency.

Thank you repubs for NAFTA!

Pretty sure NAFTA was a bipartisan effort. But it's an example of why we continue to have problems. Because all of us agree with the principal of selling out our economy for cheap stuff.

The real problem with our culture is that 99% of us would sell the souls of our closest if it kept us in an escalade and watching the freshest new TV. This very message board is quite the LOL example. Upper class folks arguing about the struggles of inner city kids 1 day and buying a 150k tow boat the next. All the while calling them "roaches" and claiming not to be racist. Lighten up guys, you're living the dream, even if you don't quite realize it.

Originally Posted by stanfield

The real problem with our culture is that 99% of us would sell the souls of our closest if it kept us in an escalade and watching the freshest new TV. This very message board is quite the LOL example. Upper class folks arguing about the struggles of inner city kids 1 day and buying a 150k tow boat the next. All the while calling them "roaches" and claiming not to be racist. Lighten up guys, you're living the dream, even if you don't quite realize it.

well said.

Originally Posted by TheWakeIsReal

Thank you repubs for NAFTA!

Bill Clinton signed it into law.....However both parties worked on it.

Originally Posted by stanfield

The real problem with our culture is that 99% of us would sell the souls of our closest if it kept us in an escalade and watching the freshest new TV. This very message board is quite the LOL example. Upper class folks arguing about the struggles of inner city kids 1 day and buying a 150k tow boat the next. All the while calling them "roaches" and claiming not to be racist. Lighten up guys, you're living the dream, even if you don't quite realize it.

Can't afford an escalade or a boat. Sold the boat a long time ago. Chit is too expensive in Cali.

Originally Posted by stanfield

The real problem with our culture is that 99% of us would sell the souls of our closest if it kept us in an escalade and watching the freshest new TV. This very message board is quite the LOL example. Upper class folks arguing about the struggles of inner city kids 1 day and buying a 150k tow boat the next. All the while calling them "roaches" and claiming not to be racist. Lighten up guys, you're living the dream, even if you don't quite realize it.

It's because most Americans (again, most) don't have real problems. So we have to manufacture them. People around this globe starve to death daily, don't have clean water, or access to any sort of medical care. Dads have to go home and explain to their small children, who haven't eaten in days, that they won't be eating again tonight. People on this forum get mad when someone misspells their name on their sandwich.

We moan and gripe about how bad we have it in the US without taking the time to realize what is going on around us. Great post.

Stanfield; Lighten up guys, you're living the dream, even if you don't quite realize it.

Your 100% right. I have been guilty of calling roaches Roaches! But in general your message has been received.

P.S Ram & Gurnt don't mind when either of their names are Misspelled! I have had quite a good time with it, BUT when they forget the Spicy mustard and give me the regular Frenches yellow mustard that gets me going!!!

Originally Posted by wake77

It's because most Americans (again, most) don't have real problems. So we have to manufacture them. People around this globe starve to death daily, don't have clean water, or access to any sort of medical care. Dads have to go home and explain to their small children, who haven't eaten in days, that they won't be eating again tonight. People on this forum get mad when someone misspells their name on their sandwich.

We moan and gripe about how bad we have it in the US without taking the time to realize what is going on around us. Great post.

I absolutely agree Jeremy.

Well guess more police who were hung in the court of public opinion were just acquitted like the rest of the "poster boy" brutality cases pushed by BLM. Amazing what happens when the evidence comes out.. Have they won a "poster case" yet?

Pretty much sums it up