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Old     (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-23-2014, 8:37 PM Reply   
I have my 2014 a24 for sale just wanted to see what you all thought on the price? Seems very reasonable to me but I have only shown once... I upgrade every winter to the next year but Its been a little harder to sell this fall... Is this not a properly priced???

http://www.onlyinboards.com/2014-A24...cky-45671.aspx
Old     (OneCent)      Join Date: Jul 2010       10-24-2014, 1:13 AM Reply   
Depends what a new one cost... not the MSRP, the price you really pay.
Old     (beleza)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-24-2014, 1:21 AM Reply   
Yeah I think you can get them for around 72k ish brand new if I'm not mistaken? If I'm buying used I would to save at least 5-10k off a new price. Plus there probably aren't many comparable boats for sale out there for people to compare prices which might make it tough for someone to pull the trigger. How long has it been for sale?
Old     (Riderite)      Join Date: Aug 2010       10-24-2014, 1:25 AM Reply   
I feel your pain! I think it is just that the brand is still so new. I have a loaded 2013 A22 for sale and have had minimal bites @ $52K.
Old     (get_sum)      Join Date: Jun 2012       10-24-2014, 4:46 AM Reply   
It took about 6 months for my 2010 A22 to sell. I started it at $45k. Sold it for $41,500.
Old     (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-24-2014, 6:24 AM Reply   
There is no way you are getting an a24 with ls3 wetsounds and tricked out trailer for 72k unless u are on some type of demo plan or someone is cutting u a huge deal.
Old     (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-24-2014, 6:26 AM Reply   
I think that a boat like mine new could be had around 80k with the wetsounds. Boat show price on mine was like 79k and they sold 2 or 3 for that.
Old     (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-24-2014, 6:27 AM Reply   
^**** without wetsounds meant to say. Likely just a hair above with wetsounds.
Old     (MalibuGold)      Join Date: Oct 2014       10-24-2014, 6:46 AM Reply   
The only one I saw that was similar was an orange one a month or so back and I think that he was asking mid to high 60's. It also had the big motor and a nice stereo. Not sure about the trailer, etc... I think you are in the right ballpark.
Old     (beleza)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-24-2014, 6:52 AM Reply   
Yeah I was talking about a more base a24 without the ls3. Not sure how much that option is. As for getting all of your money back it of the wetsounds and tricked out trailer... that might be a bit tough. It's a super nice boat so I'm sure that someone in the market for an a24 will eventually like the savings over buying new and swoop it up.
Old     (boardman74)      Join Date: Jul 2012       10-24-2014, 7:08 AM Reply   
Market this fall is tougher than it has been in years past. I flip mine every year and buy at dealer cost. My goal is always to break even. Last couple years I have done that. Last year my boat sold in less than 8 hours. This year it took me a month to sell my boat and I lost $3000. Plus we didn't use the boat much and it only had 18 hours. This year is just slower for sales. I always try to sell early August. You are now deep into the fall and in most area's that means people are done boating. You are really to the point where you have to give it away or wait for spring. Also like some have said, having a first year boat makes it tough to tell if you are OK on price or not. I would check and see what hold over 14's are selling for. Thats going to be the best indication, and remember yours is worth considerably less. A used 14 in my experience is usually worth about 30% off MSRP, is that where your price is?

Your statement.."unless u are on some type of demo plan or someone is cutting u a huge deal.", is exactly what you HAVE to be doing if you think you are going to sell a current model boat and not get hit over the head. If you are paying any more than dealer cost you are going to have a tough time selling for anywhere close to what you paid. Even a "boat show deal" isn't anywhere close to enough. You need to be buying 22-25% off MSRP. Flipping new boats yearly seems like its getting tough, or maybe it was just a bad year. Either way I am considering not doing it any longer as it doesn't seem to make pay any longer.
Old     (MalibuGold)      Join Date: Oct 2014       10-24-2014, 7:18 AM Reply   
30K off MSRP seems a bit too much to me. If the MSRP was 80K on that boat or even close that would mean that he would sell it for $56K. That's too cheap for that boat IMO. I think if you listed it a little lower maybe 65K it would be gone in days no matter what time of year, but you could hold out for more. I looked up that orange one it was owned by a Chatwake. His sold in a very short period of time. Not sure of the exact amount but I bet it was not less than 65K based on what I read.
Old     (scottb7)      Join Date: Oct 2012       10-24-2014, 7:32 AM Reply   
Hate to say it but I think 30% off msrp is unfortunately correct for a used 2014, this year, this time of year. I agree that is seems strange but I believe is true that you can pay 22-25% off msrp, so 30% is not far from 30%.

Last edited by scottb7; 10-24-2014 at 7:35 AM.
Old     (boardman74)      Join Date: Jul 2012       10-24-2014, 7:55 AM Reply   
30%..not 30K. Unless its about a 100K plus boat.

And Scott is exactly right many people are paying 22-25% off MSRP so the used ones have to be worth less than that. Having done this year after year I can tell you it almost always is about 30% off the MSRP. Not what people are paying for them, but the MSRP. Personally this year I was closer to 35% off MSRP.

End of year deals also factor into this. Dealer mark up on almost every brand is around 25%. Once they are non current most smart dealers let them go for cost versus floor planning a hold over boat all winter. Some are even willing to lose a little considering floor plan is $300-$500 a month of these high dollar boats. So now dealers are selling NEW hold over 14's for 25%+ off MSRP. So how can a used one not be around 30% off or even more.

Most people don't even realize how much the boat dealers are putting it to the average guy who walks thru the door. Makes $10-$25K off you on a single sale. Then will dump their remaining inventory end of the season for cost and ruin your resale. If you aren't educated buying boats you can real get hurt on them. People whine about getting screwed at the car dealer when the dealer might be making $1000 on a new car. If they only knew what the boat dealers were doing!!!

Last edited by boardman74; 10-24-2014 at 8:02 AM.
Old     (augie_09)      Join Date: Mar 2011       10-24-2014, 7:59 AM Reply   
Didn't chat sell his a24 with ls3 for mid to high 60's recently? Could be wrong.
Old     (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-24-2014, 8:20 AM Reply   
I have lookd at what other A24s are being sold at. The only one that was ever lower was Chattwakes boat (at like 65k) and his is going to consistently be about 5k lower than what anyone else is selling for no matter what every year. I did not pay boat show price but I ride for the local dealer and they have always been good to me.

The reason I cannot believe mine hasn't sold, or at least garnered more interest is it is in the range of most a22s (with base motor even) I have seen online. To answer the question above the ls3 is a very pricy option, I had seen some people online say that it cost them 8-10k above the base motor. To say that this boat should be listed in the mid 50s is comical to me as that's where completely stripped 2014 a22s are selling at.
Old     (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-24-2014, 8:25 AM Reply   
yea chatt did but he has always sold his super low and people have commended him for where his price is. Honestly it seemed to me like a color combo that would be tougher to sell that than I have also. Mine also has a few more options but is pretty similarly equipped.

scott I don't think it is true either than people can get 20-25% off msrp either. maybe with the big 3 but axis works on tighter margins and is more about volume. Your estimation would assume that one could have my boat new for 66,000 considering with wetsounds msrp was 88,000. Again unless someone is getting a bro deal hook up or on some sort of demo/promo deal I don't think this at all possible.
Old     (boardman74)      Join Date: Jul 2012       10-24-2014, 8:29 AM Reply   
Another thing no one mentioned is you have 170 hours on a year old boat. That alone will scare people away. You probably have the highest hour A24 in the country, that effects price a lot! IMO, your going to have to be at Chatt's 65K number to get some action. I am guessing his boat didn't have 170 hours on it either. If your trying to flip new boats putting that kind of hours on it makes it tough.

The dealer I worked for did a deal with a ski club on a boat. That boat got 100 hours put on it and is for sale for less than dealer cost….and its still for sale!!

I didn't see anyone say you should be in the mid 50's, but you might need to be in the mid 60's.
Old     (boardman74)      Join Date: Jul 2012       10-24-2014, 8:31 AM Reply   
And your a "sponsored" rider for the dealership and your not getting a demo/ promo bro deal??? Come on man!!

Chatt's been doing this a longtime like I have. He know's where to price the boat to get it sold. I am sure if he thought he could get more than he would price it higher. If 65K is the point then that is the point. It's obviously not 70-72K or your boat would be sold and you wouldn't have started this thread. Not trying to be a d-bag just telling you the truth. Seems to me like your spending a lot of time telling everyone else why they are wrong, when they probably are pretty close to the numbers and trying to give you the input you asked for.

Last edited by boardman74; 10-24-2014 at 8:35 AM.
Old     (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-24-2014, 8:45 AM Reply   
I never said mid 60s was wrong that is why I am ASKING lol. I did say mid 50s was waaaay too low however. I never said I was not on a deal with the shop I ride for. I do some promotional work for them and plan on getting another a24 next year also. I was simply saying you cannot base what the boat is worth off of a promotional deal or dealer cost... You have to look at what most people are paying and from what I have seen for a boat like mine that is the upper 70s. If you say "well dealer invoice is A so where you should sell is b" doesn't seem like the correct conversation. thanks for the input.
Old     (DenverRider)      Join Date: Feb 2013       10-24-2014, 8:55 AM Reply   
The market never lies. You can get a pat on the back from as many forum responders as you can get but it won't matter. You want to know if you have your boat priced right? You'll only know when your price is paid by its new owner. If nobody is looking, then you likely have it priced too high. There are boats on my local craigslist that have been reposted for years for too high a price. You likely can't tell these owners anything because they "know" that their boat is priced right. The people on planet nautique or whatever their forum of choice is told them so.
Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       10-24-2014, 9:00 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by boardman74 View Post
Another thing no one mentioned is you have 170 hours on a year old boat. That alone will scare people away. You probably have the highest hour A24 in the country, that effects price a lot! IMO, your going to have to be at Chatt's 65K number to get some action. I am guessing his boat didn't have 170 hours on it either. If your trying to flip new boats putting that kind of hours on it makes it tough.

The dealer I worked for did a deal with a ski club on a boat. That boat got 100 hours put on it and is for sale for less than dealer costů.and its still for sale!!

I didn't see anyone say you should be in the mid 50's, but you might need to be in the mid 60's.
A buddy of mine has a 2014 A24 with over 300 hours ... your move

lol
Old     (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-24-2014, 9:03 AM Reply   
Yea I am pretty sure chats boat had around the same hours also as it was used for filming a wake video and he picked it up with like 150 on it,
Old     (boardman74)      Join Date: Jul 2012       10-24-2014, 9:06 AM Reply   
Wow..that ones gotta be worth 75K then!! LOL

What i'm saying is that is on the HIGH side of hours and will turn people off. Like a year old car with 25,000 miles on it…they sell, but not for the same price ar the one with 10,000 miles.
Old     (redsupralaunch)      Join Date: Aug 2002       10-24-2014, 10:39 AM Reply   
I think you have limited your buyers by the size of a 24. You will have to be patient and work with the first buyer that comes along. Good Luck
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       10-24-2014, 12:28 PM Reply   
The problem I see is that you bought a 100% loaded and upgraded boat and are expecting to get more than 25 cents on the dollar for those upgrades. If you want to flip a boat every year you should be ordering it with the base motor (as long as it will perform the way you are going to use it or most buyers would use it), no Wetsounds, no tricked trailer, no metal flake, etc...

I have no idea what all those upgrades cost you but I would guess you added 10k on top of that same boat with the factory stereo, 410hp motor, non-flake gel, standard trailer, etc.... Assuming I am somewhere in the neighborhood on the extra cost of upgrades I would expect to get roughly 2500-5000(tops) back on that.

You are also selling the boat at the absolute worst time of the year. We are 3 months until anybody (besides the Wakeworld crew) is even remotely thinking about a boat. That means to sell it you probably have to drop the price 5-10% to get any takers before next February/March.

It sucks, but it is what it is and hopefully you learn from this on what should be important when building your boat you want to flip in 6 months.

By the way. Sick boat.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-24-2014, 12:38 PM Reply   
the other thing to keep in mind with axis, at least according to the 2013 owners manual posted on their website, is that the warranty is non transferable. So that probably adds an additional discount over other brands with a transferrable warranty.
Old     (scottb7)      Join Date: Oct 2012       10-24-2014, 1:04 PM Reply   
Are you kidding about the warranty? There would NOT be too many people willing to pay very much for a boat with no warranty. I personally would not pay more than maybe $30k for a boat without a warranty. I hope you are wrong or that company is killing their resale values and ability for current owners to upgrade.
Old     (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-24-2014, 1:08 PM Reply   
Hmmm from conversation I have had with my dealer etc the warranty WAS transferrable. You would think the manual would be correct though. I do know that I have bought a used axis before and submitted things on warranty no problem (couple seat tears and switch issue)
Old     (jwl019)      Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: N.E. Louisiana       10-24-2014, 1:24 PM Reply   
As someone who has viewed you add previously, I did somewhat like the colors and all the options. I would rather have the red and white flipped if I was going to order one. I really like the picture of the new A22 (red and black). My first instinct was a little high on price, even with the upgrades. The new A22's I am looking at are going to be less but not quiet as loaded as yours. Also, I like the new tower better than the 2014 model. The shorter warranty for Axis also has me looking more at other boats, not to mention if the transferable warranty applies or not on purchasing a used one which in the 2013 manual on page 86 it states not transferable. I am sure the 24' boat would be nice but a lot of people, including myself will have a heard time storing that thing unless they have a big shop/garage or boat lift. Overall I think that is a great looking boat, but just more of a boat than what I want.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-24-2014, 2:07 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottb7 View Post
Are you kidding about the warranty? There would NOT be too many people willing to pay very much for a boat with no warranty. I personally would not pay more than maybe $30k for a boat without a warranty. I hope you are wrong or that company is killing their resale values and ability for current owners to upgrade.
This is just what it says in the manual on the Axis website. I could be wrong, but don't have a better source of information from which to draw a conclusion.



The other thing to remember is that the axis warranty is pretty weaksauce to begin with. It's parts only in year 2 (no warranty coverage for labor). So even if transferrable you only get one year of what most would consider a "full" warranty.

Last edited by shawndoggy; 10-24-2014 at 2:10 PM.
Old     (boardman74)      Join Date: Jul 2012       10-24-2014, 2:13 PM Reply   
Tige warranty is also to the original owner. Non Transferable. Engine warranty is transferable thru Indmar. Axis has the Indmar so likely the engine/ trans warranty can be transferred.
Old     (83Starsnstripes)      Join Date: Jul 2013       10-24-2014, 2:44 PM Reply   
Don't budge on your price. We just sold a demo A24 with more hours for more than you are asking. Just bad time of year. It will sell.
Old     (scottb7)      Join Date: Oct 2012       10-24-2014, 5:30 PM Reply   
My opinion: Any company selling a boat for more then $30k with a non transferable warranty is a piece of crap company. End of report.
Old     (mike2001)      Join Date: Feb 2008       10-24-2014, 9:08 PM Reply   
first world problems
Old     (OneCent)      Join Date: Jul 2010       10-25-2014, 8:46 AM Reply   
"first world problems" - yes, but that does not help.
Old     (scottb7)      Join Date: Oct 2012       10-25-2014, 9:02 AM Reply   
That is my point, uhh, kind of. A company with this bad a warranty is trying - in my opinion - to screw the middle class. And it is the existence and largess of our middle class that keeps us from being a third world country. This is because polarization into a low and high class results in anarchy, socialism, and eventually destruction.

The guy that can afford a boat (perhaps with payments) that is trying to avoid - or can't afford one from the big 3, get's screwed later when he wants to trade out of the boat. A decent warranty that is transferable obviously helps the original owner.
Old     (OneCent)      Join Date: Jul 2010       10-25-2014, 9:29 AM Reply   
Warranty, Service and Support are some of the Key Factors of a premium brand - point.

I never understood why warranty has to be transferable, the boat does not change if you sell it, and the warranty should be on the boat and not the buyer.

But back to the Axis.... if you have time.. just wait. If not, lower the price and/or make more advertisement. Axis Forum.. and more....
Old     (chattwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       10-25-2014, 10:32 AM Reply   
IMO,

Your boat has not sold because of a combination of factors:
1. It's too late in the season. I had a contract on mine within a week. I put it up for sale in late August. I did not think it would sell that quick and I did not want to end up with a boat in October.
2. No offense, but not everyone likes red accents and a solid white with red interior accents. Yes, my 14 was crazy looking, but it was covered in flake and it had been used in a film. It was a cool boat. Historically, I have had great success with solid white or solid black. Neutral colors widen your market.
3. Your price needed to be 69k. I see that is what you have it priced at now, but that would have gotten you more calls in September I believe. I priced mine aggressively because I got it as a demo so my basis was likely less than yours.
4. Mine had under 150 hours.

At 69k you should start getting hits. It's a good price and will look even better when people start pricing 15's.

Either way, best of luck.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-26-2014, 9:49 AM Reply   
One other very minor point... The text of your ad says "this is a great deal guys." And you'd previously (if I am not mistaken?) had "firm" or "without the stereo" in the ad. It still says that it's a great deal but now the price is like $5k lower than 6 weeks ago? So maybe not such a great deal to begin with?

As a buyer that suggests that there is no room for negotiation. If it were priced crazy low that might make sense but when priced with the rest of the market you may be turning buyers off before they even contact you.

Dunno... Like I said a minor quibble.
Old     (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-26-2014, 10:36 AM Reply   
I wouldn't say i was priced above the rest of the market. The only a24s I have seen lower were chatts and one that had the 350 and was basically devoid of options. There were 2 others similar optioned to mine. One was referenced above and it was listed for 77k and sold.

Shawn... Yea I get what you are saying there, makes sense
Old     (surffresh)      Join Date: Jun 2010       10-26-2014, 12:08 PM Reply   
we just let a new 2014 A24 with a 410 and some decent options go for 64 on a Boatmate, I think the problem you may have this time of year is that dealers will be dumping 2014's
Old     (boardman74)      Join Date: Jul 2012       10-26-2014, 3:37 PM Reply   
^^Exactly what I said earlier. Your now competing against holdovers that dealers are will to sell for cost to avoid floor planning them all winter. Like some have said its the worst time of the year to sell. If you flipping boat yearly the time to sell is late July-mid August. At that time there is motivation as a buyer can use it. Right now the only motivation is an unreal deal other wise you might as well sit back and relax till boat show season.
Old     (kstateskier)      Join Date: May 2002       10-26-2014, 10:13 PM Reply   
Though it's minor, I'd get some better pictures. The pictures you have on there are terrible compared to a lot of the other ads out there. I also think that the higher end stereos make it hard to flip boats. I don't always think stereo is a thought when people compare boats. It's kind of an add on that adds something to your boat. I think most people will go with the cheaper price when all else is equal. This may just be personal preference, but to me the Axis boats look better in color schemes that are more out there. The boats are pretty plain as is, and when the color scheme is plain, they just don't stand out.
Old     (Fixable)      Join Date: Oct 2012       10-27-2014, 6:11 AM Reply   
I think one other thing that might effect these late model Axis sales, is the fact that the late model Malibu market is extremely flooded. A lot of the buyers might go for a 2014 23 LSV with 30-50hrs, for 75-80k, before they go for the A24 at 70k.

There is a ridiculously large amount of 12-14 Malibu's on the market right now....... And this fall, has already seemed like a difficult one, to sell a late model used boat.
Old     (skiboarder)      Join Date: Oct 2006       10-27-2014, 8:21 AM Reply   
You're trying to get top dollar for a current year model boat in the fall. Dealers are selling remaining inventory at/near cost. It will go up $5K from now till boat show. Why are so many people flipping boats? Unless you have an inside deal, get ready to be destroyed. Boats are toys not investments.
Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       10-27-2014, 9:00 AM Reply   
If you want to sell in the off-season, there is only 1 way to do it.

List it for sale the weekend after your local boat show. It won't last a week at the right price.
Old     (augie_09)      Join Date: Mar 2011       10-27-2014, 11:22 AM Reply   
You are advertising on craigslist right? I got way more leads and ultimately sold my boat that way this fall. Onlyinboards got me 2 leads, but way after I had 6+ craigslist leads that resulted in a few full price offers.

Just my opinion, but the ad needs to be completely redone immediately. At this price point, it needs to be as professional as possible. The verbiage is too chatty. It shouldn't read like a conversation, like your talking to me. Should not use words like ' I, we, you, firm, great, excludes, deal, must sell, every option but, wetsounds stuff'. Just list the facts/specs/features with as much brand/model info as possible. what brand are those 1100 sacks, racks, bimini? And already mentioned, more hi res pics, even a link to a photobucket album of 50+ hi res pics if possible.
Old     (riddick)      Join Date: Jan 2010       10-27-2014, 11:56 AM Reply   
It is tough to compete with a dealer. I do not know the going rate for a 1 year old axis, but you should look to reduce the price a little closer to dealer cost. I believe I could walk into any Axis dealer today and buy a new 2014 for the price you are asking due to it being the end of the year.

However, if you want to get top dollar for your boat, look to offer something unique or value-added to make the transaction more attractive. Personally, I would offer to pay to keep it in an indoor storage unit until april for an interested buyer. Boat buying is very emotional, which is why winter is an awful time to sell a boat, but if you offer something to make the process simple, you might be able to steal a sell away from a dealer who wouldn't offer that service.

Also, Onlyinboards is great, but I do feel that most of those buyers/online shoppers are very educated in this niche market. Look to broaden your ad reach through craigslist or boattrader.

Good luck and happy selling.

-Brad
Old     (MalibuGold)      Join Date: Oct 2014       10-27-2014, 12:57 PM Reply   
I just saw another one go up on craigslist. He is asking more for yours and it doesn't have the motor. http://littlerock.craigslist.org/boa/4731734358.html

For me the motor option is a big selling point, so highlight that more. The cost of the option's etc...

I also have been pricing these and the local dealer has the 2014's marked down pretty heavy. You can get a new one for right at 70K maybe lower but I don't know anyone to get a special deal like some people do. However, it just had the monsoon. I don't know that most people know what a big difference the motor makes.
Old     (jdiaz78)      Join Date: Sep 2014       10-27-2014, 2:04 PM Reply   
I just bought a fully loaded dealer demo A24 with a LS3 motor. It came with the Z5 Cargo bimini top, surf gate, heaters, sound pack 3, led lights, docking lights, etc, etc, etc. I paid 68,000 for it. The boat had around 70 hours on it. I thought I got a pretty good deal.
Old     (Greeko)      Join Date: May 2013       10-27-2014, 2:37 PM Reply   
Honestly if you get some better pics up there. Like maybe with the HDR on your iphone rather than regular resolution. Post them high quality.

Shine her up and spend some time on the pics get some good angles, good light.. Price..im gonna stay away from that one.
Old     (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-27-2014, 2:46 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by MalibuGold View Post
I just saw another one go up on craigslist. He is asking more for yours and it doesn't have the motor. http://littlerock.craigslist.org/boa/4731734358.html

For me the motor option is a big selling point, so highlight that more. The cost of the option's etc...

I also have been pricing these and the local dealer has the 2014's marked down pretty heavy. You can get a new one for right at 70K maybe lower but I don't know anyone to get a special deal like some people do. However, it just had the monsoon. I don't know that most people know what a big difference the motor makes.
DING DING DING...

Im not sure how some people are comparing a completely base boat with the monsoon to mine. that's a 10k dollar option alone.
Old     (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-27-2014, 2:48 PM Reply   
Price? You are going to stay away why? I did have the price a little high earlier in the season but I don't see how you can still say that it is high or unreasonable??
Old     (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-27-2014, 2:50 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by jdiaz78 View Post
I just bought a fully loaded dealer demo A24 with a LS3 motor. It came with the Z5 Cargo bimini top, surf gate, heaters, sound pack 3, led lights, docking lights, etc, etc, etc. I paid 68,000 for it. The boat had around 70 hours on it. I thought I got a pretty good deal.
That's a really good deal. There was another demo with similar options that just sold for 75k at another dealer.
Old     (dezul)      Join Date: Jul 2012       10-27-2014, 6:01 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by superair502 View Post
Price? You are going to stay away why? I did have the price a little high earlier in the season but I don't see how you can still say that it is high or unreasonable??
I think he meant he is not going to offer his opinion on the price. Not that it is a bad price.
Old     (skiboarder)      Join Date: Oct 2006       10-28-2014, 10:43 AM Reply   
Mase, I have had 4 boats in 5 years. Options mean next to nothing on a resale. Expect to get 25% or less of the Saltwater edition, big engine, awesome stereo, etc. Those options are for people who keep a boat for more than a year. If you want to sell a boat fast the #1 thing to consider is color. Everything else is secondary. I had one SS edition VLX and I thought it was a awesome option since we are close to the coast and the southern lakes in Houston are brackish. I lost the value of the SS edition and lost additional value because people assume it was ran in salt water.

That is an awesome boat and the 450 is an awesome engine, but you couldn't do worse for resale. Take a deep breath and write it off if you want it gone now. Or if I were you, I'd keep the boat. It absolutely rips. Tons of room, plenty of horsepower, It is a timeless color scheme. You can't really do better in any other boat especially dollar for dollar.

Only two people should flip boats: People who buy their boats 30% under retail and people who leasing a boat for $30K/year is no big deal.
Old     (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-28-2014, 1:15 PM Reply   
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Mase, I have had 4 boats in 5 years. Options mean next to nothing on a resale. Expect to get 25% or less of the Saltwater edition, big engine, awesome stereo, etc. Those options are for people who keep a boat for more than a year. If you want to sell a boat fast the #1 thing to consider is color. Everything else is secondary. I had one SS edition VLX and I thought it was a awesome option since we are close to the coast and the southern lakes in Houston are brackish. I lost the value of the SS edition and lost additional value because people assume it was ran in salt water.

That is an awesome boat and the 450 is an awesome engine, but you couldn't do worse for resale. Take a deep breath and write it off if you want it gone now. Or if I were you, I'd keep the boat. It absolutely rips. Tons of room, plenty of horsepower, It is a timeless color scheme. You can't really do better in any other boat especially dollar for dollar.

Only two people should flip boats: People who buy their boats 30% under retail and people who leasing a boat for $30K/year is no big deal.
The boat IS priced about 25% under retail that is what I am trying to say.... I do get one of these type deals with my dealer also and haven't really had trouble selling in the past.

I think the problem here and what I am realizing is that the boat is priced where it should be (again I am not trying to get full amounts out of options but my a24 is 3-5k more than others online that are pretty base) but people that are going for the AXIS brand don't really care about the options as much for the most part. Meaning I don't think most people that would buy an axis would normally opt for the big engine or wetsounds.
Old     (jwl019)      Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: N.E. Louisiana       10-28-2014, 1:23 PM Reply   
I would think the bigger engine in the A24 would be a must if you were really going to use it ballasted up. The wetsounds is probably the only thing that would not be a necessity.
Old     (dezul)      Join Date: Jul 2012       10-29-2014, 3:37 AM Reply   
It is just a bad time to sell right now. The weather didn't help in the Southeast either. It turned cold pretty quick at the end of September for a couple of weeks into October. I think it is a good price, if you can convince someone to come take a look at it and test drive it. I am almost certain it would be sold.

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