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Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-11-2020, 1:09 PM Reply   
Is this true guys? A 6 block area that the police aren't allowed in?
If it is, this is just unreal.
If it's true, I have to agree with those on the video.

move in, take it back. People might get hurt, but hey....choices are made

https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-p...qXHt-pcB1bFTCo


https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-p...qXHt-pcB1bFTCo
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-15-2020, 6:32 AM Reply   
now, a list of demands

https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-j...DWCYP3wn48dTRA

If this is all true, I'm very much in favor of federal action
Old     (wakeeater2003)      Join Date: Mar 2004       06-15-2020, 12:19 PM Reply   
Sounds totally reasonable!
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-16-2020, 3:54 AM Reply   
I'm really surprised at the lack of comments on this post
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Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       06-16-2020, 5:58 AM Reply   
Your source for all this is FOX, the station that was caught showing photos and videos not from Seattle and others that were prior to creating the autonomous zone. They have been trying to create something that isnt 100% true. So, bring out the salt.
Other sources have a different picture of what is going on.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...st-zone-321507
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/13/media...est/index.html
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-n...b6426173ae6a3d
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...tail&FORM=VIRE
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Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-16-2020, 9:38 AM Reply   
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Your source for all this is FOX, the station that was caught showing photos and videos not from Seattle and others that were prior to creating the autonomous zone. They have been trying to create something that isnt 100% true. So, bring out the salt.
Other sources have a different picture of what is going on.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...st-zone-321507
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/13/media...est/index.html
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-n...b6426173ae6a3d
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...tail&FORM=VIRE
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Funny. Is this or is this not a take over a public and private property by illegal means? Yes or no?
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-16-2020, 9:41 AM Reply   
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Your source for all this is FOX, the station that was caught showing photos and videos not from Seattle and others that were prior to creating the autonomous zone. They have been trying to create something that isnt 100% true. So, bring out the salt.
Other sources have a different picture of what is going on.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...st-zone-321507
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/13/media...est/index.html
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-n...b6426173ae6a3d
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...tail&FORM=VIRE
.
Are these demands made up:

defunding the police “100%,” which would include defunding pensions for retired officers, and replacing them with “localized anti-crime systems,”
abolishing the courts,
abolishing imprisonment,
retrying all persons of color convicted of violent offenses,
staffing the 9-1-1 line with mental health experts,
establishing city-wide rent control,
banning evictions,
socializing medicine,
granting citizenship to illegal aliens, and
providing reparations for African Americans.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       06-16-2020, 9:45 AM Reply   
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Are these demands made up:

defunding the police “100%,” which would include defunding pensions for retired officers, and replacing them with “localized anti-crime systems,”
abolishing the courts,
abolishing imprisonment,
retrying all persons of color convicted of violent offenses,
staffing the 9-1-1 line with mental health experts,
establishing city-wide rent control,
banning evictions,
socializing medicine,
granting citizenship to illegal aliens, and
providing reparations for African Americans.
I think its a negotiation. Some good ideas some not so good.
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-16-2020, 4:19 PM Reply   
by saying that it's a negotiation, means that they must think that they have some sort of leverage. What would that be? Fox must have gotten at least part of the story correct.
Old     (lesstalkmoreride)      Join Date: Nov 2008       06-17-2020, 4:38 AM Reply   
Its also illegal for cops to murder people. So, game on.
They are not hurting anyone in the CHAZ/CHOP. It wont last, but its making a point.
Fox news is being typical Fox news. Read from lots of diverse sources to get an unpolished picture.
This situation is like # 10000000000003 on a list of issues right now.
But if you watch Fox News, you'd be led to believe YOU are NEXT!!! Muhahahaha.....
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-17-2020, 5:30 AM Reply   
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Its also illegal for cops to murder people. So, game on.
They are not hurting anyone in the CHAZ/CHOP. It wont last, but its making a point.
Fox news is being typical Fox news. Read from lots of diverse sources to get an unpolished picture.
This situation is like # 10000000000003 on a list of issues right now.
But if you watch Fox News, you'd be led to believe YOU are NEXT!!! Muhahahaha.....
You again?

Not hurting anyone? How bout the business owners who’ve had their businesses totally destroyed? Even Trader Joe’s is gone permanently. Not hurting anyone? How bout the total destruction or vandalization of virtually every single store front in a six block area? Not hurting anyone? How bout the cost to tax payers once these loser democrats leave? Not hurting anyone..... You are part of the problem.
Old     (lesstalkmoreride)      Join Date: Nov 2008       06-17-2020, 6:07 AM Reply   
That is all false you absolute idiot.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       06-17-2020, 6:18 AM Reply   
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You again?

Not hurting anyone? How bout the business owners who’ve had their businesses totally destroyed? Even Trader Joe’s is gone permanently. Not hurting anyone? How bout the total destruction or vandalization of virtually every single store front in a six block area? Not hurting anyone? How bout the cost to tax payers once these loser democrats leave? Not hurting anyone..... You are part of the problem.
Were you aware the area they are at is a mix of residential, quirky restaurants and the Gay bar area of the city? Why do you care what goes on in the area all the gay bars are located. Uh-Oh. Sorry to invade your privacy.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       06-17-2020, 6:20 AM Reply   
Watched Hannity last night, did his 10 minutes on Seattle. The whole time showing photos dated May 28, June 3...nothing in the last weeks. Fox on top of it.
Old     (lesstalkmoreride)      Join Date: Nov 2008       06-17-2020, 6:38 AM Reply   
https://www.vox.com/identities/2020/...e-neighborhood

" “The SPD seem like what they wanted to do is abandon the East Precinct and then wait on the borders, just like a few blocks away, for somebody to try to set a fire to repeat what was going on in Minneapolis,” Carla, a protester who is being identified by a pseudonym to protect her privacy, told Vox. “Then they can rush in and say, ‘Now our use of military force against unarmed civilians is justified.’”

But that’s not what happened. Instead, protesters set about creating a peaceful — and safe — police-free neighborhood. And the officers largely haven’t bothered to come back."
Old     (lesstalkmoreride)      Join Date: Nov 2008       06-17-2020, 6:42 AM Reply   
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https://www.vox.com/identities/2020/...e-neighborhood

" “The SPD seem like what they wanted to do is abandon the East Precinct and then wait on the borders, just like a few blocks away, for somebody to try to set a fire to repeat what was going on in Minneapolis,” Carla, a protester who is being identified by a pseudonym to protect her privacy, told Vox. “Then they can rush in and say, ‘Now our use of military force against unarmed civilians is justified.’”

But that’s not what happened. Instead, protesters set about creating a peaceful — and safe — police-free neighborhood. And the officers largely haven’t bothered to come back."
"Yet right-wing media has painted CHAZ as some kind of war zone, portraying the tiny neighborhood as if it were forcibly seceding from the US. While protest organizers in the area are understandably reticent to speak with reporters — several protest leaders did not respond to interview requests from Vox — there is no hint of the violence suggested by the likes of Fox News."


Wake up sheep!
The true wolves are in your living room. They're on your TV, and they want you scared! Because when you are scared, you will listen to them, which keeps them rich and powerful.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-17-2020, 6:55 AM Reply   
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Its also illegal for cops to murder people. So, game on.
They are not hurting anyone in the CHAZ/CHOP. It wont last, but its making a point.
Fox news is being typical Fox news. Read from lots of diverse sources to get an unpolished picture.
This situation is like # 10000000000003 on a list of issues right now.
But if you watch Fox News, you'd be led to believe YOU are NEXT!!! Muhahahaha.....
This has been more than just this event in seattle. I have talked more than once on this thread alone about all the times they beat up conservatives up there for speaking in public. I have people in my live that have had to be in riots against ANTIFA in the bay area. This is just not a new issue.

It is also illegal for people to murder cops however a black man is 18.5 times more likely to kill a cop than a cop to kill a black man. There needs to be changes everywhere.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-17-2020, 6:56 AM Reply   
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"Yet right-wing media has painted CHAZ as some kind of war zone, portraying the tiny neighborhood as if it were forcibly seceding from the US. While protest organizers in the area are understandably reticent to speak with reporters — several protest leaders did not respond to interview requests from Vox — there is no hint of the violence suggested by the likes of Fox News."


Wake up sheep!
The true wolves are in your living room. They're on your TV, and they want you scared! Because when you are scared, you will listen to them, which keeps them rich and powerful.
You mean like your other media sources hiding videos from within the chaz telling white people that they all need to give black people money and things like that?
Old     (lesstalkmoreride)      Join Date: Nov 2008       06-17-2020, 7:19 AM Reply   
"hiding videos" is not the same as 'do your own research.' That argument is just as easily flipped into saying that Fox is "hiding" all of the good peaceful protesting that is happening.

I saw the clip you speak of and as cringy as it may seem, the actual point was not literally giving a black person 10$, but the idea that if white people are going to fight for equality we must expect to capitulate on some the privilege we have been afforded simply because we are white. Yes, it will be uncomfortable and a minor sacrifice, but is needed if we really want something approaching equality. In other words if you cannot fathom "giving a black person 10$" (must give up some privilege) how can you even begin to address systemic imbalance.

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Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-17-2020, 7:44 AM Reply   
for me, it really isn't the point if the area is peaceful or a gang moving in. The point is, a group has taken over 6 blocks of a city. Is it okay if they are all hippies and singing songs? What if the next group wants to do this in a different area of the city? When has it gone to far? What if this was a bunch of peaceful, gun carrying 2nd amendment people? Would it still be okay

It's not okay

Doesn't matter if they are having a picnic or not
Old     (lesstalkmoreride)      Join Date: Nov 2008       06-17-2020, 7:51 AM Reply   
Maybe try chilling out for a bit. Go outside.
If anyone was that worried, there would have been violence.
Seems like they are cool with it. But you, who is not impacted, are not.
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-17-2020, 7:53 AM Reply   
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"hiding videos" is not the same as 'do your own research.' That argument is just as easily flipped into saying that Fox is "hiding" all of the good peaceful protesting that is happening.

I saw the clip you speak of and as cringy as it may seem, the actual point was not literally giving a black person 10$, but the idea that if white people are going to fight for equality we must expect to capitulate on some the privilege we have been afforded simply because we are white. Yes, it will be uncomfortable and a minor sacrifice, but is needed if we really want something approaching equality. In other words if you cannot fathom "giving a black person 10$" (must give up some privilege) how can you even begin to address systemic imbalance.


I will not give a person any money based on the color of his skin. That's crazy.
My part, being white, isn't to give anything up, but to help raise others up.
My part, is to treat everyone as equally as I can, and to teach and encourage others to do the same.
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-17-2020, 7:54 AM Reply   
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Maybe try chilling out for a bit. Go outside.
If anyone was that worried, there would have been violence.
Seems like they are cool with it. But you, who is not impacted, are not.

not impacted today, but a precedent is being set.
The hypocrisy of the left will help allow it until it doesn't fit their narrative.
That could impact us all
Old     (lesstalkmoreride)      Join Date: Nov 2008       06-17-2020, 8:08 AM Reply   
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My part, is to treat everyone as equally as I can, and to teach and encourage others to do the same.
Indeed, if there is anything that needs to be contagious, it is this sentiment.

I am highly doubtful of an anarchist colony metastasis.
Eeeeeeven if, those 2A's got our back, right?
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-17-2020, 8:33 AM Reply   
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That is all false you absolute idiot.
It is all true, you friggin brain donor.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-17-2020, 8:36 AM Reply   
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Were you aware the area they are at is a mix of residential, quirky restaurants and the Gay bar area of the city? Why do you care what goes on in the area all the gay bars are located. Uh-Oh. Sorry to invade your privacy.
Who cares what types of businesses are affected? These libtards have ruined a community. Even if it is the hippy dippy region of Seattle, it's so stupid. They, like you, are completely delusional if they think they're gonna change anything besides lowering the property values of CHOP.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-17-2020, 8:39 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by lesstalkmoreride View Post
"hiding videos" is not the same as 'do your own research.' That argument is just as easily flipped into saying that Fox is "hiding" all of the good peaceful protesting that is happening.

I saw the clip you speak of and as cringy as it may seem, the actual point was not literally giving a black person 10$, but the idea that if white people are going to fight for equality we must expect to capitulate on some the privilege we have been afforded simply because we are white. Yes, it will be uncomfortable and a minor sacrifice, but is needed if we really want something approaching equality. In other words if you cannot fathom "giving a black person 10$" (must give up some privilege) how can you even begin to address systemic imbalance.
You are completely delusional. Go back to anonymity again where you belong. You contribute zero here and are not welcome. You are the white republican to our CHOP here.
Old     (lesstalkmoreride)      Join Date: Nov 2008       06-17-2020, 8:40 AM Reply   
What CHOP is really just depends on who you are.

https://slate.com/technology/2020/06...d-protest.html

"If you’re trying to figure out what CHAZ is or what’s happening there, what you read will likely reflect your network’s political beliefs. If you lean right, you might see CHAZ mocked as a failed experiment run by radical anarchists; if you lean left, you might see posts praising it as a new sort of utopia, comparable to Freetown Christiania in Copenhagen, Denmark."
Old     (lesstalkmoreride)      Join Date: Nov 2008       06-17-2020, 8:40 AM Reply   
I will haunt your dreams Marky Mark.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-17-2020, 8:41 AM Reply   
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What CHOP is really just depends on who you are.

https://slate.com/technology/2020/06...d-protest.html

"If you’re trying to figure out what CHAZ is or what’s happening there, what you read will likely reflect your network’s political beliefs. If you lean right, you might see CHAZ mocked as a failed experiment run by radical anarchists; if you lean left, you might see posts praising it as a new sort of utopia, comparable to Freetown Christiania in Copenhagen, Denmark."
So what is it to you brain donors? Never mind. I don't care.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-17-2020, 8:43 AM Reply   
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"hiding videos" is not the same as 'do your own research.' That argument is just as easily flipped into saying that Fox is "hiding" all of the good peaceful protesting that is happening.

I saw the clip you speak of and as cringy as it may seem, the actual point was not literally giving a black person 10$, but the idea that if white people are going to fight for equality we must expect to capitulate on some the privilege we have been afforded simply because we are white. Yes, it will be uncomfortable and a minor sacrifice, but is needed if we really want something approaching equality. In other words if you cannot fathom "giving a black person 10$" (must give up some privilege) how can you even begin to address systemic imbalance.
Hogwash. Blacks have been put in the front of the line since the 1960's. Ever hear of affirmative action? My white privileged wife who pretty much grew up homeless has been a direct victim of it at least twice. How do asians and mexicans address systemic imbalance? Oh, they don't count right? The Japanese in this country were literally arrested, stripped of their property and put into camps (by democrats btw) and some of those people are actually still alive. Chinese and the rail road? Irish as the actual first American slaves? Women today who are actually stolen and sold into sex slavery and have to be afraid of nearly all men because of how they are objectified. How about black culture and demcrats in this thread treat women. Dave Chappell called 2 women bitches and ****s in his little special and wrote it off as just being "black". Urban music that objectifies women. How many lirics call women hoes and other horrible names.

Yep. It is white privilege all right. Get that bull **** out of here. Tell me where the privilege is for kids in fly over country 50 miles from the nearest mall even.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-17-2020, 8:48 AM Reply   
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I will haunt your dreams Marky Mark.
Maybe your cousin/wife's. Not mine, pal.
Old     (lesstalkmoreride)      Join Date: Nov 2008       06-17-2020, 8:51 AM Reply   
Yea, I agree, our country has done some really messed up stuff.
Messed up stuff that some see as lets say, "great." Some even want to return to that. Luckily that is beginning to change.

The point of BLM is not that other lives dont matter, it is that they are not being targeted in a way that the black population is.
And of course no person or demographic is perfect. No one is saying that.
Black lives matter is like saying, hey Marks house is on fire and he needs help right now! Then you come in and say, but what if my house catches on fire? It matters too, right? Yes, sure. But our friends house just burnt down. Perhaps it being about the acuity is the issue. Social media and social surviellence has brought such atrocities as selective murder into acuity and is spurning good change.
Old     (lesstalkmoreride)      Join Date: Nov 2008       06-17-2020, 8:54 AM Reply   
Well have they been shot up during a routine traffic stop? Its kinda a privilege to survive one these days.
Privilege exists in various contexts.
Of course the bumpkins dont have good opportunities, they do however tend to vote red.
Association does not equal causation, but you'd think they'd want a change.

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Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       06-17-2020, 9:10 AM Reply   
One need not support CHOP/CHAZ to acknowledge white privilege.

And I agree that these chaz folks are no better than the Bundy-led group that took over the wildlife refuge in Oregon. Same story, different haircut.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-17-2020, 9:21 AM Reply   
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Yea, I agree, our country has done some really messed up stuff.
Messed up stuff that some see as lets say, "great." Some even want to return to that. Luckily that is beginning to change.

The point of BLM is not that other lives dont matter, it is that they are not being targeted in a way that the black population is.
And of course no person or demographic is perfect. No one is saying that.
Black lives matter is like saying, hey Marks house is on fire and he needs help right now! Then you come in and say, but what if my house catches on fire? It matters too, right? Yes, sure. But our friends house just burnt down. Perhaps it being about the acuity is the issue. Social media and social surviellence has brought such atrocities as selective murder into acuity and is spurning good change.
The point of BLM is it is a marxist talking point front group. I agree that BLM the people who don't think they matter is a good thing. I agree. Many people have been told the story to them that they do not matter. Most peoples reality is the story they tell after an event. A car pulls out in front of you while driving. One version is you almost died today due to a car pulled out in front of you. The other version is, I almost killed someone today because they pulled out in front of you. Another version is, what? When did a car pull out in front of me. Or even a 4th version is so what? Happens to people all the time, I just put on my brakes and stopped.

The japanese and Chinese are not living in the past. They see what happened. I am sure they are somewhat guarded, however they chose to tell their stories differently. They did not let a thing like the past write their future.

White people in America literally came to the US to get out of the slavery/ serfdom and religious intolerance of Europe. You don't hear stories of that ol king of England, but then again I suppose the English do not celebrate the 4th of July now do they. Irish? First slaves. Hated pretty much by everyone and even reportedly worse than dogs and blacks in America. How about Indian girls (from India). They have zero chance yet come to America where they still have a generalized male culture that represses them and a overall culture of violence and objectification (see rap videos and Dave Chappells special or even comments about women in this forum). What is the difference in all these groups. They all have some horrible stories that can be told. They choose not to. Not that they are not true if they told them, there is no sense living in it.

How about that other little group known as the jews. you know those folks. Literally moved into train cars to be murdered. Horrible experiments on them. Some of those folks still live today. Migrated to a country surrounded by people who were trying to help Hitler and still call for their open murder today. I am sure they lay around telling stories of how they were given a bad rap?

Dr. Ben Carson. That ol uncle tom. Brain Surgeon. what the heck does he know. I am sure he lays around telling stories of how he was kept down while thinking of ways to make money off his drug business or prostitution ring while talking about how people are keeping him down. I am sure he has a album he needs to produce that has a few bitches and hoes references. Maybe go shoot up the rival artist because that always helps things.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-17-2020, 9:22 AM Reply   
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One need not support CHOP/CHAZ to acknowledge white privilege.

And I agree that these chaz folks are no better than the Bundy-led group that took over the wildlife refuge in Oregon. Same story, different haircut.
**** you and your white privilege. You had it. Don't speak for me or my family.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-17-2020, 9:22 AM Reply   
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One need not support CHOP/CHAZ to acknowledge white privilege.

And I agree that these chaz folks are no better than the Bundy-led group that took over the wildlife refuge in Oregon. Same story, different haircut.
waiting for the feds to run the leader of the chaz off the road and gun him down like they did Bundy.
Old     (lesstalkmoreride)      Join Date: Nov 2008       06-17-2020, 9:25 AM Reply   
Sorry, your rant was too long for my feeble mind. Thanks for putting the effort in though.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-17-2020, 9:25 AM Reply   
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Well have they been shot up during a routine traffic stop? Its kinda a privilege to survive one these days.
Privilege exists in various contexts.
Of course the bumpkins dont have good opportunities, they do however tend to vote red.
Association does not equal causation, but you'd think they'd want a change.
You want to go by the actual stats on this or do numbers make you nervous? There have been 10 this year. 5 confirmed to have weapons.

How elitist of you. You don't even hear yourself. Millions live in communities 50 miles from the nearest malls (including myself growing up) and they are "bumpkins". They do vote red because they are not selfish. They understand it takes everyone and that special rights are not equal rights.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-17-2020, 9:27 AM Reply   
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Sorry, your rant was too long for my feeble mind. Thanks for putting the effort in though.
Truth hurt doesn't it. Hundreds of sub groups doing amazing in this country are to be discounted because it does not work in your media driven narrative.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-17-2020, 9:29 AM Reply   
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Sorry, your rant was too long for my feeble mind. Thanks for putting the effort in though.
So why during the Rodney King riots they went down an beat up and burned Korean businesses? Most of the time they are so fresh off the boat that they don't even speak English well. Why do they have businesses in the hood but black people didn't. Is there a special Korean club for starting a business that we all missed?
Old     (lesstalkmoreride)      Join Date: Nov 2008       06-17-2020, 9:33 AM Reply   
Haha, "elitist" piss off with your sensitivity snowflake.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       06-17-2020, 9:44 AM Reply   
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waiting for the feds to run the leader of the chaz off the road and gun him down like they did Bundy.
haven't you been following along, Delta? CHAZ don't need no stinkin leaders!

But I do look forward to your outrage when / if it happens.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-17-2020, 9:44 AM Reply   
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Haha, "elitist" piss off with your sensitivity snowflake.
Shoe fits bud. You are the one who thinks lower of those not in the cities. What would you call such a person? Elitist seems to fit? Does bigot fit?
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-17-2020, 9:46 AM Reply   
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haven't you been following along, Delta? CHAZ don't need no stinkin leaders!
Sorry. Lost my head. Is it possible to put them all in a bus, run that bus off the road and then shoot them? Maybe they can pull a waco and simply burn them all alive (another democrat led adventure).
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-17-2020, 9:48 AM Reply   
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haven't you been following along, Delta? CHAZ don't need no stinkin leaders!

But I do look forward to your outrage when / if it happens.
If it happens, I will be watch with popcorn in hand but it won't. They are going to let these children fail under their own weight.
Old     (lesstalkmoreride)      Join Date: Nov 2008       06-17-2020, 9:48 AM Reply   
Bumpkin is not derogatory in the red state in which I live. It is freely used and not derogatory.
Old     (lesstalkmoreride)      Join Date: Nov 2008       06-17-2020, 9:48 AM Reply   
Holy hell dude, thats dark. These are fellow citizens. Like them or not, advocating for mass death is a no go for me. Would you like to tell that to the FBI?
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-17-2020, 9:51 AM Reply   
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Bumpkin is not derogatory in the red state in which I live. It is freely used and not derogatory.
They also freely used the N word as some time didn't they? If common vernacular wins they day, then why is all this taliban statue tearing down going on?

You don't even listen to your little riot friends. you don't get to judge what is derogatory anymore. If someone somewhere receives it as a slight, you must give them $10 apparently and oh get fired from your job.
Old     (lesstalkmoreride)      Join Date: Nov 2008       06-17-2020, 9:54 AM Reply   
I dont use that word or support its use. So whats your point? That bumpkins are backazzwards? Many are.
Go out in public and yell bumpkin, bumpkin, bumpkin. Then yell the n-word as much as you want. Film it for us please.
There is a big difference.

What? What kinda word vomit is that. I know you are grasping but c'mon.

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Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-17-2020, 9:57 AM Reply   
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Holy hell dude, thats dark. These are fellow citizens. Like them or not, advocating for mass death is a no go for me. Would you like to tell that to the FBI?
Not advocating. Just quoting actual history that has happened in the last couple decades. The Waco wackos simply had a compound out in the middle of know where that the sheriff used to walk up to the door without a gun and talk to the leader. Clinton's people decided it was better to burn them out or at least use tear gas that had been banned by the genva convention on them and had been bonafied to have started multiple fires during various standoffs over the years that had the same effect. The facts are still in dispute but they did run Bundy off the road while he was on the way to a different country to surrender and shoot him. That was under Obama. Just wondering what will happen to our chaz group? (don't worry, they will be fine Clinton and Obama are not around anymore).
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-17-2020, 10:00 AM Reply   
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I dont use that word or support its use. So whats your point? That bumpkins are backazzwards? Many are.
Go out in public and yell bumpkin, bumpkin, bumpkin. Then yell the n-word as much as you want. Film it for us please.
There is a big difference.

What? What kinda word vomit is that. I know you are grasping but c'mon.
Not a word vomit. Aren't you guys currently purging words and images that have offended any group today? Sounds to me, it ther is an image or word that people use or have used in the history of this country it is grounds for destruction.

Use a word or even a stance like not supporting BLM the marxist organization and you will lose your job. It has happened. Don't like old time statues? Those are out too.
Old     (lesstalkmoreride)      Join Date: Nov 2008       06-17-2020, 10:00 AM Reply   
Nah, man, you said what you said.
"Is it possible to put them all in a bus, run that bus off the road and then shoot them? "
Good luck finding support for your sick vision. You need help my friend.
Old     (lesstalkmoreride)      Join Date: Nov 2008       06-17-2020, 10:02 AM Reply   
I am all for removal of statues of losers. Their time has passed. Put em in a museum or your garage, IDC.
They dont belong in public anymore.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-17-2020, 10:03 AM Reply   
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Holy hell dude, thats dark. These are fellow citizens. Like them or not, advocating for mass death is a no go for me. Would you like to tell that to the FBI?
Oh. Why would we need to tell the FBI. They are the ones who did the act to those other groups. Heck, they have the tapes. Telling you what they did is not advocating, it is the history of what has happened to various groups.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-17-2020, 10:05 AM Reply   
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I am all for removal of statues of losers. Their time has passed. Put em in a museum or your garage, IDC.
They dont belong in public anymore.
Who says? You? A bunch of children in the streets? Can we have IQ's lower than 30 vote on this? Good news is that you have the Taliban's and Iran's religious revolutionaries full support for your fascists ideology.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-17-2020, 10:06 AM Reply   
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Nah, man, you said what you said.
"Is it possible to put them all in a bus, run that bus off the road and then shoot them? "
Good luck finding support for your sick vision. You need help my friend.
Uh huh. Keep trying to twist my words. Typical little fascist.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       06-17-2020, 2:35 PM Reply   
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I am all for removal of statues of losers. Their time has passed. Put em in a museum or your garage, IDC.
They dont belong in public anymore.
Should the MLK statues be taken down? I don't know, but I did hear talk that all monuments, statues, signs, symbols, and anything that can or could be considered racially charged or create anxiety should be removed. Stops signs, yield and other signed that create rules are to be removed. The stop lights, must be color neutral and words like. stop. no, get back, get down, get out, or anything that could be considered oppressive has to be removed. I think there is a list floating around.

the only benefit is gender and age rules, so if you say your are a women, but a man, that flys. So i said i was 65 to the social security office, they said, i was not and I said, you cant stay that. Because i feel 65, and you sir are oppressing me. then i tried to file for social security. they did not think that was funny, although when i asked if I could use the restroom, They told me the mens room was around the corner, i explained that I was a women and they said. Oh, sorry its down the hall. go figure

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Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       06-17-2020, 2:51 PM Reply   
So, lesson learned, if you feel like a women, but are man, its ok, but if you feel older than you are its not cool. If you look like a women and dress like a man, you are welcome to pee anywhere you like unless you are under 65, on weekends, at the walmart, you are not old enough to get in. I totally understand now, and have a new found respect for what it means to be confused. Our history is very confusing, our past was very straight forward, men were men, women were women, history was to be used as a learning lesson. Not anymore. I asked my neighbor, he is japanese, very nice man, how did he explain to grandchildren that they need to apologize for pearl harbor. At first he was confused, but after a moment he understood. he did not have an answer but responded by saying. Its not your daughters fault for what has happened in the past, you cannot apologize for the sad affairs that plagued out nation. Smart man!
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       06-17-2020, 2:59 PM Reply   
someday, someone will have to apologize for all of this, Who will it be, the peoples children who have their, future, parents trying to destroy seattle. made the children of the elected officials totally Fing this all up. thats sound fair, lets blame the children for their parents actions. Its not Obama who is to blame, its his kids. Same with Trump or Clinton or whomever we feel. As long as we feel better inside, and all the pain go's away, we really don't care wha ist real or make believe. This entire **** show (in seattle is fake) Its not about equal rights or BLM. they don't care about anyone but themselves, or they would not be doing what they are doing. Thats the very sad part of all this. and now hundreds or maybe thousands of police departments are giving up. walking away. who will be the next to blame for that. maybe we should blame their children and grandchildren for helping and no helping? Staying on the force or not staying on? I am confused again. sorry.
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-18-2020, 1:29 AM Reply   
something like this?
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Old     (bcd)      Join Date: Jun 2012       06-18-2020, 2:53 AM Reply   
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I dont use that word or support its use. So whats your point? That bumpkins are backazzwards? Many are.
Go out in public and yell bumpkin, bumpkin, bumpkin. Then yell the n-word as much as you want. Film it for us please.
There is a big difference.

What? What kinda word vomit is that. I know you are grasping but c'mon.
It's only racist/stereotyping/bad if it involves black people. Since he's referring to white country people, it's ok to call them stupid.

Now do you understand?
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-18-2020, 5:58 AM Reply   
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It's only racist/stereotyping/bad if it involves black people. Since he's referring to white country people, it's ok to call them stupid.

Now do you understand?
Yes. I do. I am sorry. Not sure for what, but I know there are plenty of classes to tell me what I need to be sorry for. I wonder if I should say I am sorry for Pearl Harbor. I mean if we never were in Hawaii, the Japanese would have never have bombed us at Pearl Harbor, thus we would not have had the name Pearl Harbor. It would have just been another name but not Pearl Harbor. For that, I am truly sorry there is a Pearl Harbor.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-18-2020, 6:15 AM Reply   
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It's only racist/stereotyping/bad if it involves black people. Since he's referring to white country people, it's ok to call them stupid.

Now do you understand?
haha.. The other side of this. I love how elitists like to lecture the "country" crowd that they are backwards yet it is constantly coming out about the rape culture of Hollywood and places like that. World elites going to rape islands. Could you imagine if these people went to slave islands where their are only black people. Wonder how that plays out. Of course it gets little attention because it was a slave island. Sex Slaves and they were women. It is ok as long as you are objectifying them and calling them bitches and hoes in your songs and actions. Yep. those good ol backwards country people...

The more people "progress", the more they are actually regressing. heard this argument more than once, but this time from a lefty at work who says he has traveled all around the world and knows of many cultures. I told him straight up that he went drinking in bars around the world and just like bars in America, I don't believe a damn thing out of some drunks mouth at a bar. He really did not know what to say. Until you actually live somewhere and have to rely on people, you have no idea who they are and how they live. They are the first to tell you unless you are black and live in the black community that you don't know what it is like to be black. If that is the case (and I am sure it is to a certain level), how is it that you can say you visited someplace and really tell us what it is like? You can't.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-18-2020, 6:17 AM Reply   
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I dont use that word or support its use. So whats your point? That bumpkins are backazzwards? Many are.
Go out in public and yell bumpkin, bumpkin, bumpkin. Then yell the n-word as much as you want. Film it for us please.
There is a big difference.

What? What kinda word vomit is that. I know you are grasping but c'mon.
So what you are saying that if I insult one group, they are prone to violence and will beat you up for your words and the other group will let you be ignorant and let you say it anyway? Let's have that discussion.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-18-2020, 6:20 AM Reply   
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something like this?
Or the Japanese use of bio and chemical weapons on the Chinese or the Rape of Nanking. Yes. All children can not move forward until that happens. maybe the Chinese should murder each other by the thousands every year because the Japanese refuse to appalogize.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-18-2020, 7:17 PM Reply   
I met a Seattle Sheriff’s deputy tonight. I spoke to him for half an hour. Heard a great deal about how it is right now for them. He said most officers are frequently talking of ways to get out of their line of work. He also said neither he nor any of his fellow officers can express the truth about today’s current climate without fear of getting fired. Things like setting the record straight with actual statistics etc. Truth is off limits because of the authoritarian liberals in power. Sad...
Old     (bcd)      Join Date: Jun 2012       06-19-2020, 12:11 AM Reply   
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I met a Seattle Sheriff’s deputy tonight. I spoke to him for half an hour. Heard a great deal about how it is right now for them. He said most officers are frequently talking of ways to get out of their line of work. He also said neither he nor any of his fellow officers can express the truth about today’s current climate without fear of getting fired. Things like setting the record straight with actual statistics etc. Truth is off limits because of the authoritarian liberals in power. Sad...
My wife is a police officer. She wants to quit. People get their phones out and video constantly trying to get video of her doing/saying something wrong. She gets called a white honkey cracker racist b*tch all the time, yet she's considered the racist one.

She's been assaulted at work at least 4 times. The worst was when she got sucker punched by a guy who had just stabbed someone 15 times. Broke her jaw and gave her a concussion. She has never injured a suspect while arresting them. She has shown up houses multiple times where 3 to 5 year old kids have called her the bad person because she is a police officer.

If they don't like the police now, wait until they drive the goods ones to quit. What kind of police force will we have when they cut their pay and they have to stand there listening to f the police protests?

They are going after every police officer for the bad actions of a few. Kind of ironic that it sounds a lot like stereotyping/racism? But I'm white, which makes me a racist, so what do I know anyway.

Oh, one officer just quit to be a garbage collector. It's better to pick up garbage than police now...
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-19-2020, 1:39 AM Reply   
straight from the source

https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch...ign=benshapiro

I'm very disappointed that Trump hasn't moved in an removed these terrorists
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       06-19-2020, 2:35 AM Reply   
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My wife is a police officer. She wants to quit. People get their phones out and video constantly trying to get video of her doing/saying something wrong. She gets called a white honkey cracker racist b*tch all the time, yet she's considered the racist one.

She's been assaulted at work at least 4 times. The worst was when she got sucker punched by a guy who had just stabbed someone 15 times. Broke her jaw and gave her a concussion. She has never injured a suspect while arresting them. She has shown up houses multiple times where 3 to 5 year old kids have called her the bad person because she is a police officer.

If they don't like the police now, wait until they drive the goods ones to quit. What kind of police force will we have when they cut their pay and they have to stand there listening to f the police protests?

They are going after every police officer for the bad actions of a few. Kind of ironic that it sounds a lot like stereotyping/racism? But I'm white, which makes me a racist, so what do I know anyway.

Oh, one officer just quit to be a garbage collector. It's better to pick up garbage than police now...
If I were you, I would ask her to quit immediately. Its just not worth putting your life on the line everyday to possibly get thrown in jail for murder.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-19-2020, 3:36 AM Reply   
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My wife is a police officer. She wants to quit. People get their phones out and video constantly trying to get video of her doing/saying something wrong. She gets called a white honkey cracker racist b*tch all the time, yet she's considered the racist one.

She's been assaulted at work at least 4 times. The worst was when she got sucker punched by a guy who had just stabbed someone 15 times. Broke her jaw and gave her a concussion. She has never injured a suspect while arresting them. She has shown up houses multiple times where 3 to 5 year old kids have called her the bad person because she is a police officer.

If they don't like the police now, wait until they drive the goods ones to quit. What kind of police force will we have when they cut their pay and they have to stand there listening to f the police protests?

They are going after every police officer for the bad actions of a few. Kind of ironic that it sounds a lot like stereotyping/racism? But I'm white, which makes me a racist, so what do I know anyway.

Oh, one officer just quit to be a garbage collector. It's better to pick up garbage than police now...
There is a two prong issue. There is an element that things if you keep them from selling drugs and running prostitutes that you are actually against "their" people. Case in point Hopkins the former Texans now Cardinals wide receiver. As all this stuff is going down, he says the reason he wears number 10 because his cousin got 10 years in jail for $600 worth of drugs. For starters, it rarely is just for the drugs however say it is. You are a NFL player and that is the hill you are standing on? My cousin was either a really bad drug addict or he was selling to "his" people and killing them. That is how horrible the mind set is getting but drugs are "OK", they don't destroy societies.

The other side of this and this is where Obama and the other marxists come in. It does not matter at all if the cops are good or bad. The cops are the gate keepers of the wealthy in their mind. You must destroy the police in order to break down society enough that the masses can get to and destroy the rich. Certainly hear a lot of mindless top 1% talk (used to be top 2% until the regular democrats realized they were the top 2%).

Sorry to her about your wife. My wife was a community service officer over in Oakland for a couple decades. She actually had to go out into riots as well with basically no protection. Was doing video recovery (was working with a higher end sex trafficking unit using their video) and crime scene tech (can't tell you in a few years how many bodies she had to scrape up. One day she was on her way to do a 3rd is what I remember). Had to pull minority teens off of officers many many times. I don't think people realize how unhinged the "public" has become.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       06-19-2020, 3:44 AM Reply   
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straight from the source

https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch...ign=benshapiro

I'm very disappointed that Trump hasn't moved in an removed these terrorists
Yep.

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Grayson, appreciative of Horowitz for actually asking her what the people of CHAZ really want, bluntly told the documentarian, “Every single day that I show up here, I’m not here to peacefully protest. I’m here to disrupt until my demands are met. You cannot rebuild until you break it all the way down. Respond to the demands of the people, or prepare to be met with any means necessary.”

“It’s not a slogan,” she added, “it’s not even a warning. I’m letting people know what comes next.”
Even Dave Chappell in his last little part of his new impromptu special says what next is the shooting if things don't change for black people. Not sure what that is. However she is echoing exactly the marxist idealism and what Obama has asked them to do even as little as a couple weeks ago. What she does not realize is what comes next for them if they keep going. Things are going to get a little more weird before this is over. Even Bill Maher has said he believes no matter who wins in November that their is going to be bloodshead. Unfortunately I agree. I don't see how it is avoided at this point. Even today in Tulsa, they are trying to get Trump supporters away from the stadium because the Tulsa police got word that 100,000 rioters on organizing to disrupt the town. We will see.
Old     (bcd)      Join Date: Jun 2012       06-19-2020, 12:01 PM Reply   
Makes sense
Old     (wakeeater2003)      Join Date: Mar 2004       06-20-2020, 1:43 AM Reply   
A lot of my friends are cops in Richmond CA (rough area). The **** they go through is basically unimaginable. They have all about had it. They are good cops and good people, when they quit good luck re-filling those positions,

Everyone likes to Monday morning quarterback but these guy’s jobs are hard as hell. I respect what they do and that they are willing to do it.


If you really want to see things get out of control wait until everyone start carrying and taking the law into their own hands.
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-20-2020, 3:25 AM Reply   
I carry, and so do all of my immediate family.
We don't own assault rifles, but I do have a stockpile of .45 rounds.

I hope that I never have to pull the trigger. I hope that it never comes to that. But, if I need to protect my family, friends, property or business. I will, without hesitation

There are a lot of other Texans that feel the same way
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       06-20-2020, 7:06 AM Reply   
It’s crazy times for sure for anyone in the uniform these days. While sure it’s easy and probably smarter to quit.............I just have a hard tube ridding that stupid gene in my head that won’t allow bad guys to win. It just can’t happen. It’s def getting near impossible.
Thanks to all those in this thread supporting those who are still fighting .


Every call and stop these days ends up an f you fest we just have to take it which only embolden them to escalate it further and further each time. It’s a terrible precedent started by Obama.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-20-2020, 7:20 AM Reply   
https://m.facebook.com/AmericanConse...941922%2F&_rdr
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-20-2020, 7:23 AM Reply   
I can’t stop watching the liberal with the pipe getting punched out.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-20-2020, 9:16 AM Reply   
Well... A month in and we got two libtards shot in douche town, otherwise known as the Democrat cess pool called CHOP. Two shot down, one dead, two thousand to go. It’s a start.

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