Biden for Prez

Originally Posted by xstarrider

You’re clearly just giant troll who plays ostrich very well. That’s it. Nothing more nothing less. Can’t answer simple questions. Deflect deflect deflect. Covid isn’t preventable you idiot. More lies.

Now you want to desecrate American soldiers lives that were lost due to an epic failure by your pedo in chief. It’s seriously disturbing the amount of bull**** you spew. You’re a complete clown .

How many vaxed people are dying from Covid?

Originally Posted by 95sn

How many vaxed people are dying from Covid?

According to the data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, at least 2,675 Americans died of COVID-19 despite being fully vaccinated as of Sept. 7. Among the total breakthrough deaths, 87% were people aged 65 and older.

As of Sept. 7, the U.S. recorded 11,440 breakthrough hospitalizations, a nearly 1,000 increase from the 10,471 breakthrough hospitalizations recorded at the end of August.

Among the total number of fully vaccinated individuals admitted for COVID-19, 7,954 were people aged 65 and older,



The number is climbing and the efficacy of vaccines is declining. You know what not declining. Natural immunity . Weird. There’s that pesky high risk group again leading the charge with the stats.

Originally Posted by xstarrider

According to the data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, at least 2,675 Americans died of COVID-19 despite being fully vaccinated as of Sept. 7. Among the total breakthrough deaths, 87% were people aged 65 and older.

As of Sept. 7, the U.S. recorded 11,440 breakthrough hospitalizations, a nearly 1,000 increase from the 10,471 breakthrough hospitalizations recorded at the end of August.

Among the total number of fully vaccinated individuals admitted for COVID-19, 7,954 were people aged 65 and older,



The number is climbing and the efficacy of vaccines is declining. You know what not declining. Natural immunity . Weird. There’s that pesky high risk group again leading the charge with the stats.

oh common, you know natural immunity from getting covid and recovering is not science, its not real! the only way you can have immunity is if you get vaccinated every 6 months, even if you have already had covid. you are only protected if the president of the united states says you are, and that means you

1. have to be illegally crossing into our country
2. work at a business with less than 100 people
3. Be in the congress or sensate
4. work for the postal office

If you dont fall into these categories, you have no immunity, but if you are worried, you need to get a mailman uniform and pass out mail between 9 to 5 (thats eastern standard time) not sure if you live in a different time zone. Or, you could fly into mexico, walk across the boarder and you may then have immunity. Or you could run for office, then i guarantee you will have immunity Other than that, it looks like your ****ed!

Now, if you are really afraid of catching it, you need to designate your time rioting in any blue city, the preferred method would be with BLM or Antifa, and it cannot be anywhere around the congress, that does not count, I would suggest portland, seattle, LA, NYC, philly, or Baltimore as a good starting point. No american flags, as it will lower your immunity. I would suggest you buy an Antifa starter kit, comes with all the black clothing necessary! If you get the master riot kit, it comes with fire bombs, baseball bat, bricks, frozen waterbottles, wire cutters and bear spray. Its just more expensive up front.

It comes with a rule book also, so if you do a few things on your first riot, you are immune forever.

1. burn down a target
2. attack any random person eating with their family, at an outside restaurant
3. attack a police officer
4. blow up a police station
5. burn down a car dealership (its close to total immunity, but not quite as close as a police station)

there are others in the rule book, but if you want complete, and total immunity you need to start a cult city, claim it "the summer of love" and have a few random killing after dark. Hope this helps

Originally Posted by xstarrider

According to the data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, at least 2,675 Americans died of COVID-19 despite being fully vaccinated as of Sept. 7. Among the total breakthrough deaths, 87% were people aged 65 and older.

As of Sept. 7, the U.S. recorded 11,440 breakthrough hospitalizations, a nearly 1,000 increase from the 10,471 breakthrough hospitalizations recorded at the end of August.

Among the total number of fully vaccinated individuals admitted for COVID-19, 7,954 were people aged 65 and older,



The number is climbing and the efficacy of vaccines is declining. You know what not declining. Natural immunity . Weird. There’s that pesky high risk group again leading the charge with the stats.

So are you trying to say people shouldn't get vaccinated, go catch covid and hope they are the lucky asymptomatic population so they can have natural immunity? The two don't have to be mutually exclusive.

Originally Posted by psudy

So are you trying to say people shouldn't get vaccinated, go catch covid and hope they are the lucky asymptomatic population so they can have natural immunity? The two don't have to be mutually exclusive.

Exactly, then you get to take it on the chin again when your natural immunity wears off. It is just a really bad strategy. You may skate through a few rounds unharmed, but what happens when you catch a bad case? It seems like it would be best to pass on as many rounds as possible limiting your exposure over your life time.

Not saying you will never get it, but even putting it off allows time for treatments to improve and beds to free-up. Also, I expect vaccines to improve overtime.

Originally Posted by xstarrider

According to the data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, at least 2,675 Americans died of COVID-19 despite being fully vaccinated as of Sept. 7. Among the total breakthrough deaths, 87% were people aged 65 and older.

As of Sept. 7, the U.S. recorded 11,440 breakthrough hospitalizations, a nearly 1,000 increase from the 10,471 breakthrough hospitalizations recorded at the end of August.

Among the total number of fully vaccinated individuals admitted for COVID-19, 7,954 were people aged 65 and older,



The number is climbing and the efficacy of vaccines is declining. You know what not declining. Natural immunity . Weird. There’s that pesky high risk group again leading the charge with the stats.

No way! So you are saying that of the 180M people vaccinated in the US, that 2675 have actually died? So you only have a 99.9995% chance of not dying overall and only a 99.99991% chance of not dying if you are under 65? Seems like a ripoff foisted upon us by the liberal elites. Who'd want those odds when you only 11x as likely to die if unvaxxed.

Originally Posted by 95sn

So, we could take you out tomorrow and it wouldnt really matter, statistically speaking. 20K dead from a totally preventable disease due to politics and stupidity and thats just fine? Then why freak out about the 13 soldiers who died in a war?

Would not matter to the population or the politicians one bit. I am just a number.

I don't think you got the memo, it is not preventable.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

No way! So you are saying that of the 180M people vaccinated in the US, that 2675 have actually died? So you only have a 99.9995% chance of not dying overall and only a 99.99991% chance of not dying if you are under 65? Seems like a ripoff foisted upon us by the liberal elites. Who'd want those odds when you only 11x as likely to die if unvaxxed.

You only have a 0.0006% chance to die unvaccinated from covid from age 44 down.

Originally Posted by psudy

So are you trying to say people shouldn't get vaccinated, go catch covid and hope they are the lucky asymptomatic population so they can have natural immunity? The two don't have to be mutually exclusive.

No I am saying mandating vaccines for an entire population is completely assinine and down right tyrannical. It’s complete lunacy to treat an entire populous the same when clearly there are dissident aspects , different target groups , and different levels of protection.


Much like a majority of the blanket policies of the first round were completely insane as had minimal if any effect , the left is doubling down again on stupidity. The stats have shown over and over and over again it mostly targeted and there are different pups that require different approaches. The fact there is zeros discussion about it because it goes against the idiot in chiefs beliefs is the precise reason America is so divided on the subject. The fact the white house and extreme libtards want to ram this down people’s throats when the data clearly shows the opposite over and over and over is precisely the reason they can’t people to buy into it.

Originally Posted by skiboarder

Exactly, then you get to take it on the chin again when your natural immunity wears off. It is just a really bad strategy. You may skate through a few rounds unharmed, but what happens when you catch a bad case? It seems like it would be best to pass on as many rounds as possible limiting your exposure over your life time.

Not saying you will never get it, but even putting it off allows time for treatments to improve and beds to free-up. Also, I expect vaccines to improve overtime.

You realize the natural immunity lasts longer than the vaccine. The delta is exponentially less deadly already by a huge margin. Again all people want is the truth and yes ability to make their own decisions. The entire mantra of unvaccinated people being the enemy and a danger to public health is ridiculous and goes against the science. It’s a politically charged message used to divide the country. A blend of natural herd immunity and vaccination was always the goal. If the vaccine works as claimed an unvaccinated , a healthy American, that has not perviously battled covid doesn’t present any more of a danger than a vaccinated individual would be to another vaccinated individual. The only person at risk is the unvaccinated person , a personal choice that person made. End of story.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

No way! So you are saying that of the 180M people vaccinated in the US, that 2675 have actually died? So you only have a 99.9995% chance of not dying overall and only a 99.99991% chance of not dying if you are under 65? Seems like a ripoff foisted upon us by the liberal elites. Who'd want those odds when you only 11x as likely to die if unvaxxed.

And here we have the first guy to fall for the bait hook line and sinker.


I thought for sure your boy 95SN would’ve been the first to chime in on this. Your claim is the percentage of this group is mostly insignificant for discussion when it doesn’t follow your message.




Maybe your not aware of the death rate of healthy Americans outside the “ target high risk pool” for covid. The chances of dying while unvaccinated for that group is almost identical to the numbers you just showed above and claim are not worthy and meaningless. Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Here we go with the hypocrisy. Bunch of dead vaccinated people are cost of doing business. Bunch of dead unvaccinated people with almost exact same rate are pure evil and a danger to society. I am sure you can see the issue there

Ahh. more border trouble for Biden and the BJ Queen.

Del Rio international bridge looks like a bridge in San Francisco. Over 10,000 illegals from Haiti, Venezuela , Mexico and other third world slums camping at the border growing exponentially daily . Fox breaks the story with pictures and drone footage. Now the FAA has banned any flights over the area and in the airspace around the area to prevent coverage of the issue the very next day with an emergency order. The FAA restricting flights over an area littered with over 10,000 and growing illegals right at Americas’s border living like San Fran residents……..yea that seems very legit. You seriously can’t make this **** up. Are people paying attention yet ?

seems like the rest of the world does not want the Afghanastanies too dangerous, and they feel we should take them all. I guess,, they are just all racist correct?

This person probably wishes she didn’t listen to the democraps.



Add one more to the list of “did everything and still died “. Even got a booster


. Wise had posted on social media that she was fully vaccinated by March. (Her Facebook page was largely made private by the family after interview requests from The News.) She wrote that she had taken an additional preventive step, getting a third vaccine shot just days before she became ill.

Arndt, her sister, wrote that Wise got sick not long after her third shot, and that her health deteriorated rapidly after a few days of flulike symptoms. A doctor confirmed to the family that she had COVID-19 before getting her third vaccine, Arndt wrote.


While we are on Texas.


As of Friday, 7,781 breakthrough COVID-19 infections in fully vaccinated people had been confirmed in Dallas County. About 3% of those cases (241) resulted in hospitalizations, with 47 fully vaccinated people dying due to COVID-19.

Originally Posted by xstarrider

Bunch of dead unvaccinated people with almost exact same rate are pure evil and a danger to society. I am sure you can see the issue there

It's honestly not the dead ones I'm all that worried about. It's the live ones with severe disease who are clogging up my local hospitals and prompting the hospitals to notify the public not to go to the emergency room. Their dumb is putting me and my fam in danger if an accident happens. THAT is an avoidable evil and danger to society.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

It's honestly not the dead ones I'm all that worried about. It's the live ones with severe disease who are clogging up my local hospitals and prompting the hospitals to notify the public not to go to the emergency room. Their dumb is putting me and my fam in danger if an accident happens. THAT is an avoidable evil and danger to society.

So aprox 40% of minorities are vaccinated, 30% in new york for example. aprox 60% of white American, and 75% of asian americans.

The majority of these african americans are liberal leaning. most. Does this not constitute racism, as the left, who want to mandate the vaccine, is targeting black americans, who are afraid. Sounds like the left wants to see african americans die? Or lose their jobs, or be banned from general life?

The mandate is racist, and the left are racist.

Originally Posted by dougr

So aprox 40% of minorities are vaccinated, 30% in new york for example. aprox 60% of white American, and 75% of asian americans.

The majority of these african americans are liberal leaning. most. Does this not constitute racism, as the left, who want to mandate the vaccine, is targeting black americans, who are afraid. Sounds like the left wants to see african americans die? Or lose their jobs, or be banned from general life?

The mandate is racist, and the left are racist.

All people who are unvaccinated are a problem. Period.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

All people who are unvaccinated are a problem. Period.

Ok great response, so lets now start telling the truth, that its not a right wing evil white man issue, its not a political issue and its not a trump issue. its a personal/ internal issue that some people are not comfortable with getting it.

Instead of telling the country, old man river Biden is "getting tired and running thin" with people getting it, maybe people would be more willing to.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

All people who are unvaccinated are a problem. Period.

So the science that says unvaccinated people whom have had covid are more protected than those vaccinated is incorrect ?


That’s a head scratcher. Your above statement is very flawed ans the scientific data would say it’s false.




Once again the leaders of “RULES FOR THEE BUT NOT FOR ME “ on full display in San Francisco. You may remember when this same
Mayor defied her own orders way back in the first tyrannical stages and dined out in large groups while the peasants were kicked in their basements. Exposed and again with not an ounce of shame this same Tyrant defies the current mandates put in effect by her office. Masks , social distancing , pffffffffffft. No need for that I am Queen. Neither do her constituents attending the same event. Once again the biggest leftist mouthpieces defying their own orders with their elitist attitudes.

https://datebook.sfchronicle.com/mus...loin-jazz-club

Originally Posted by xstarrider

So the science that says unvaccinated people whom have had covid are more protected than those vaccinated is incorrect ?

How is that remotely verifiable?

If I were emperor of the universe, yes, folks with *verified* positive case within the last XX months could forego vax.

XX months TBD as science develops on window of immunity from natural infection.

Until a system of verification is developed, vax is the best way to make record and presents absolutely negligible potential harm (ie nobody ever died from wearing a belt and suspenders with their elastic pants).

Originally Posted by dougr

Ok great response, so lets now start telling the truth, that its not a right wing evil white man issue, its not a political issue and its not a trump issue. its a personal/ internal issue that some people are not comfortable with getting it.

Instead of telling the country, old man river Biden is "getting tired and running thin" with people getting it, maybe people would be more willing to.

It’s a problem of unvaccinated people Doug. It’s not political. The unvaxxed are ruining it for the rest of us. The Supreme Court has said that it’s actually OK to go door to door and force-jab people. Today’s “mandate” isn’t close to that.

I personally think requiring vax to fly would make great sense and is 100% reasonable.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

It's honestly not the dead ones I'm all that worried about. It's the live ones with severe disease who are clogging up my local hospitals and prompting the hospitals to notify the public not to go to the emergency room. Their dumb is putting me and my fam in danger if an accident happens. THAT is an avoidable evil and danger to society.

That is scale of business issue though. I get what you are saying, however add some capacity and there fixed. Or simply take this blip over the next couple of weeks and move on. I don't discount your fears, but life is never going to be perfect. If we really wanted to not have this type of thing, we may have wanted to think about not giving places like China most favored trade status and funding research for things there that we wont do here.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

All people who are unvaccinated are a problem. Period.

The Israel data is not going to be your friend if you believe this.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

It’s a problem of unvaccinated people Doug. It’s not political. The unvaxxed are ruining it for the rest of us. The Supreme Court has said that it’s actually OK to go door to door and force-jab people. Today’s “mandate” isn’t close to that.

I personally think requiring vax to fly would make great sense and is 100% reasonable.

The only reason the "unvaccinated are ruining for the rest of use" is because the government is creating policy to do so. That in turn prompts people like you to say things like this. It is not the unvaxxed, it is the policies.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

It’s a problem of unvaccinated people Doug. It’s not political. The unvaxxed are ruining it for the rest of us. The Supreme Court has said that it’s actually OK to go door to door and force-jab people. Today’s “mandate” isn’t close to that.

I personally think requiring vax to fly would make great sense and is 100% reasonable.

Its ok to argue get it or not, its ok to fight your opinion, but when the lefties on this site, and everywhere else keeps saying its a right wing issue, its a trump cult issue, its evil white conservative not getting it, when the media misrepresents it, then it becomes a moot argument. The left needs to stop calling out "right" as the problem and agree its on both sides, and its not how you vote that determines if you get it or not

NOW, on a totally different argument, the death tax, redistribution of proper value BS the left is pushing is totally insane. I acquire wealth, then the government takes it away from my children, BS I will have every loophole figured out. I am not giving my wealth, that i created and earned back to the socialists.

I pay over 50% in total tax now, and cannot claim anything, its redic that we have 40% of the tax base paid by 1% of the pop and they want more, and our inheritance. they must really hate their children

Originally Posted by xstarrider

Ahh. more border trouble for Biden and the BJ Queen.

Del Rio international bridge looks like a bridge in San Francisco. Over 10,000 illegals from Haiti, Venezuela , Mexico and other third world slums camping at the border growing exponentially daily . Fox breaks the story with pictures and drone footage. Now the FAA has banned any flights over the area and in the airspace around the area to prevent coverage of the issue the very next day with an emergency order. The FAA restricting flights over an area littered with over 10,000 and growing illegals right at Americas’s border living like San Fran residents……..yea that seems very legit. You seriously can’t make this **** up. Are people paying attention yet ?


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Can we all agree this is out of control and a super spreader event. 20k from Haiti, all unvax'd

This is what our country will become if we keep doing what we are doing. Its sad, and that man and his child have a right to be pissed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPlW7VLUnfc

Originally Posted by dougr

Its ok to argue get it or not, its ok to fight your opinion, but when the lefties on this site, and everywhere else keeps saying its a right wing issue, its a trump cult issue, its evil white conservative not getting it, when the media misrepresents it, then it becomes a moot argument. The left needs to stop calling out "right" as the problem and agree its on both sides, and its not how you vote that determines if you get it or not

It's true that there are a large % of minorites that are unvaxed, and a lot of that is due to mistrust of the government. It's not just those on the right that are unvaxed. However, the reason people bring up this as a right wing issue is that virtually all of the people out there who really push anti COVID vax that we hear from are your right wing folks, whether it's politcians, radio show hosts, Tucker, etc.

Originally Posted by brettw

It's true that there are a large % of minorites that are unvaxed, and a lot of that is due to mistrust of the government. It's not just those on the right that are unvaxed. However, the reason people bring up this as a right wing issue is that virtually all of the people out there who really push anti COVID vax that we hear from are your right wing folks, whether it's politcians, radio show hosts, Tucker, etc.

the real reason we all would be saying "WAIT" a vaccine made in months not years, WAIT, no studies, no background, no way to know the fall out, WAIT is a common and normal response. ITs actually shocking that so many have taken it. History shows that when we create something , "off the hip" in the world of medicine, it tends to be bad, not good.

The only reason many have gotten it, it exhaustion! Being locked down, and just wanting to go back to a normal life, People are gambling, I did, many other have but its hard to say this won't come back to bite us. Its the gamble that if you get it, you will die. and many are willing to take their chances on the virus vs the man made "thing" that was pushed onto the world in record time.

Add insult to injury, we are dealing with The FDA just voted to NOT, yes NOT approve boosters, because there is not sufficient data and they fear the results.

Originally Posted by dougr

NOW, on a totally different argument, the death tax, redistribution of proper value BS the left is pushing is totally insane. I acquire wealth, then the government takes it away from my children, BS I will have every loophole figured out. I am not giving my wealth, that i created and earned back to the socialists.

I pay over 50% in total tax now, and cannot claim anything, its redic that we have 40% of the tax base paid by 1% of the pop and they want more, and our inheritance. they must really hate their children

You are not taxed at all by the feds on an estate under $6M single/ $12M married, even under the socialists plan. You have kids, so I assume you are married. That means you are in the 99th percentile, congratulations!

My recommendation would be to just keep spending to the extent you can't keep the estate under the $12M threshold. You and your wife can gift $15000 apiece to each of your kids every year between now and when you die, absolutely tax free.

In the "worst" case, even after making all of those gifts, and making contributions to all of your favorite charities and churches, you have the unfortunate circumstance to die with more than $12M in your estate, only the part in excess is subject to the "death tax." The first $12M is 100% free of fed estate taxes.

Dying with more than $12M in the bank isn't really something most normal people (even hard working ones!) have to worry much about.

Originally Posted by brettw

It's true that there are a large % of minorites that are unvaxed, and a lot of that is due to mistrust of the government. It's not just those on the right that are unvaxed. However, the reason people bring up this as a right wing issue is that virtually all of the people out there who really push anti COVID vax that we hear from are your right wing folks, whether it's politcians, radio show hosts, Tucker, etc.

It is not anti vaxx. It is anti mandate and anti not letting people look at the actual statistics and make up their own minds. I am not sure how people do not know the difference.

There is very little issues for healthy people under the age of 45 years old. There are lingering questions with heart inflammation in young males and potential fertility problems in young females. Matter of fact they just funded a study to that very question.

It has been determined that vaxxed and non vaxxed both spread covid. Thus the mask mandate for both sets of people.

So, if you don't have a statistical issue with covid, have lingering questions that are being studied on health and both kind of people spread it......WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? These people are not the problem. Let them be and that is the whole point the "right wing" people are trying to fight. Even Bill Maher is speaking out against the left media for scaring people to death.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

It is not anti vaxx. It is anti mandate and anti not letting people look at the actual statistics and make up their own minds. I am not sure how people do not know the difference.

There is very little issues for healthy people under the age of 45 years old. There are lingering questions with heart inflammation in young males and potential fertility problems in young females. Matter of fact they just funded a study to that very question.

It has been determined that vaxxed and non vaxxed both spread covid. Thus the mask mandate for both sets of people.

So, if you don't have a statistical issue with covid, have lingering questions that are being studied on health and both kind of people spread it......WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? These people are not the problem. Let them be and that is the whole point the "right wing" people are trying to fight. Even Bill Maher is speaking out against the left media for scaring people to death.

While we have a new CHOP city under a bridge in Texas with over 11k in illegal migrants, with no control. 99% not vax'd and they are not mandated to get it! How can anyone, with a pea sized brain, not see the insanity of this Admin. its totally out of control and it only going to get worse.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

The only reason the "unvaccinated are ruining for the rest of use" is because the government is creating policy to do so. That in turn prompts people like you to say things like this. It is not the unvaxxed, it is the policies.

then whats the excuse for the last 6 months? the vaccines are free, available everywhere, people virtually paid to get them. Too many didnt is why mandates. Too many with heads in the sand believing god would save them, or its all just a hoax. Believe me, when the unvacinated are dying they wish they had been vaccinated. The unvaccinated are 100% the reason the hospital system is under water. Biden has to do something to protect the overwhelming majority. Almost 70% just voted and they want the Govt to do something. Same general consensus across the country. Anti vax/antimask... are the minority.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/hunter...ovid-pneumonia

Originally Posted by dougr

seems like the rest of the world does not want the Afghanastanies too dangerous, and they feel we should take them all. I guess,, they are just all racist correct?

probably.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7ey...rce=reddit.com

ITs a never ending lie, now i know how some love to jump on Tucker, but can you argue that killing a car full of kids, even if a mistake, is due to poor decision making and no real accurate intel and then the media, the left media, vomits total BS to prop up our BOOB PRES!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RietiuI9MEg

not only are the immigrants not mandated to get the vaccine, neither are those on welfare.

The dems made covid political during the election. They continue to do so.

I have several unvaxed friends.
A few cite politics
some cite fear of heart or reproductive complications
others fear that it was rushed and there are to many unknowns

I have 2 unvaxed friends in the ICU, antivax husband talked his 100+ lb over weight wife into not getting vaxxed, he is on a vent. Wonder what his thoughts are right about now.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...rries-increase

Here are the 10 states with the most welfare recipients:

New Mexico (21,368 per 100k)
West Virginia (17,388 per 100k)
Louisiana (17,388 per 100k)
Mississippi (14,849 per 100k)
Alabama (14,568 per 100k)
Oklahoma (14,525 per 100k)
Illinois (14,153 per 100k)
Rhode Island (13,904 per 100k)
Pennsylvania (13,623 per 100k)
Oregon (13,617 per 100k)

Most of the Governors of these states have no mask or vax mandates whatsoever.

Originally Posted by ord27

not only are the immigrants not mandated to get the vaccine, neither are those on welfare.

I can 100% get behind mandatory vaccination of both of those groups.

Originally Posted by dougr

ITs a never ending lie, now i know how some love to jump on Tucker, but can you argue that killing a car full of kids, even if a mistake, is due to poor decision making and no real accurate intel and then the media, the left media, vomits total BS to prop up our BOOB PRES!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RietiuI9MEg

You realize it was a (failing, obvs) NYT that broke the story, right?

Originally Posted by dougr

NOW, on a totally different argument, the death tax, redistribution of proper value BS the left is pushing is totally insane. I acquire wealth, then the government takes it away from my children, BS I will have every loophole figured out. I am not giving my wealth, that i created and earned back to the socialists.

When I pay taxes I'm not giving the govt the money, they are taking it from me. You come into this world with nothing and you leave with nothing. But you can give $12M to friends and family.

Does the mask work? Does the vaccine work? Don't we need social distancing? Just turn on your favorite lib. award show and all those answers come true. They can pack a tent full of rich entertainment people and not a single mask to be found (except for the help staff). Oh, but science... Well F U! My kids still have to wear a mask in a classroom of 27 kids that all have to maintain distance and there are in a significantly less risky age bracket than all of these schmucks!

Originally Posted by buffalow

Does the mask work? Does the vaccine work? Don't we need social distancing? Just turn on your favorite lib. award show and all those answers come true. They can pack a tent full of rich entertainment people and not a single mask to be found (except for the help staff). Oh, but science... Well F U! My kids still have to wear a mask in a classroom of 27 kids that all have to maintain distance and there are in a significantly less risky age bracket than all of these schmucks!

Yep, this was a huge fail. Glad Seth called them out on it:
https://news.yahoo.com/seth-rogen-cr...ycsrp_catchall

Originally Posted by brettw

Yep, this was a huge fail. Glad Seth called them out on it:
https://news.yahoo.com/seth-rogen-cr...ycsrp_catchall

ITs because they dont care, just like Pelosi and Newsom and all the other dems who "say" but dont do. So its all BS, they are willing to take a chance and get it, vax'd or not, as it spreads both ways, and has killed both vax'd and not. Just had a vax'd paramedic die from it. So either we stop the hypocrisy and the lies, accept that some are going to get vax'd some are not, and people are going to make a personal decision to the risks. Just like all those at the enemies, or at Obama party or the Met Gala or at the french laundry etc etc

These people are so FING fake its shameful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_m0GYopsNQ

I wonder if he knows his own name, he is just not going to make it 4 years. he is at that point where his cognitive abilities are going to start to fall rapidly. Sad

Originally Posted by buffalow

Does the mask work? Does the vaccine work? Don't we need social distancing? Just turn on your favorite lib. award show and all those answers come true. They can pack a tent full of rich entertainment people and not a single mask to be found (except for the help staff). Oh, but science... Well F U! My kids still have to wear a mask in a classroom of 27 kids that all have to maintain distance and there are in a significantly less risky age bracket than all of these schmucks!

I don't care about hollywood, but my kids had to wear masks all last year. Every few weeks there would be a case in a school of about 4 hundred. This year, no masks. My daughter has had 4 cases in a class of about 20 in 6 weeks. We are fast approaching the line where they go to distance learning. I would rather my kid wear a mask and have school in person than unmasked for a few weeks just to end up homeschooling for the rest of the semester.

Kids honestly don't care about the masks. They want to be with their friends and they want to be with their teachers.

Originally Posted by buffalow

Does the mask work? Does the vaccine work? Don't we need social distancing? Just turn on your favorite lib. award show and all those answers come true. They can pack a tent full of rich entertainment people and not a single mask to be found (except for the help staff). Oh, but science... Well F U! My kids still have to wear a mask in a classroom of 27 kids that all have to maintain distance and there are in a significantly less risky age bracket than all of these schmucks!

I dont think those high hollywood folks are going to get any praise for their stupidity. They are just a bunch of over paid fools bending over backwards to pat themselves on the back and give themselves some dumb award for "acting". Fools, every single one.

Ive had much the same experience with kids and masks. They dont seem to care, they just want to go play with their friends.

Originally Posted by buffalow

Oh, but science... Well F U! My kids still have to wear a mask in a classroom of 27 kids that all have to maintain distance and there are in a significantly less risky age bracket than all of these schmucks!

Are your kids old enough to be vaxxed/does their school require it?

AFAIK, Emmys required everyone to be vaxxed. So there is that.

Originally Posted by skiboarder

I don't care about hollywood, but my kids had to wear masks all last year. Every few weeks there would be a case in a school of about 4 hundred. This year, no masks. My daughter has had 4 cases in a class of about 20 in 6 weeks. We are fast approaching the line where they go to distance learning. I would rather my kid wear a mask and have school in person than unmasked for a few weeks just to end up homeschooling for the rest of the semester.

Kids honestly don't care about the masks. They want to be with their friends and they want to be with their teachers.

We have a no mask order, guess what, every kid is still wearing a mask, guess what, we have had covid cases, and class rooms shut down. The mask, non mask issue, unless n95's are being used, and they are not and cannot, the cloth mask is minimal at best. So its a virus issue, its spreading, with or without the mask.

Eveyerone in healthcare understands a level 3 does very littte. so a cloth mask does, almost, nothing, hence we are seeing spread. ITs going to need to be treated like any other virus, person gets sick, you remove that person, life moves forward. we cannot keep shutting down everything, especially school as the science shows the children are at the least risk. As for children bringing it home, are you going to send your child somewhere else for 14 days? NO, so keep your children away from older people until they can get a vaccine, once it is approved, if that "makes it better" as we still know its not going to stop spread. So if grandma is vax'd, the odds are in their favor.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

Are your kids old enough to be vaxxed/does their school require it?

AFAIK, Emmys required everyone to be vaxxed. So there is that.

Does not matter that they were vaxxed. The local laws state that the vaccinated and unvaccinated are to wear masks. Same us where I live.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Does not matter that they were vaxxed. The local laws state that the vaccinated and unvaccinated are to wear masks. Same us where I live.

Oh was the event held in CA? Didn't know!

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

Oh was the event held in CA? Didn't know!

The hypocrisy lands on the states who attack other states, due to mask mandate, vax mandate pressure, etc, but then dont follow their own rules. so if you said, everyone must were a mask, but me, it would be hypocritical. Thats why florida, hate it or not, is saying, its your choice. If Desantis mandated masks and then shows up not wearing one, or goes to the french laundry, etc

Pelosi, has a 300 people party no masked, but the servants had them on. Same with the MET! Total BS, its so out of control, you have to believe those individuals only care about their agenda, and dont care about the people they server.

I think most stadiums (at least those in CA) all have masking rules. Not sure about vax rules. Look in the stands, no one is wearing masks at games, ive been looking. No one is enforcing them.
Just checked,
Dodger stadium requires a clean covid test or Vax plus masks.
SoFi for Rams/Chargers, same vax or clean test plus mask
Staples Center, same recent clean test/Vax and masks
All seem to be following LA Country 1000+ person event rules.
Almost no one is wearing masks at these events.

Originally Posted by 95sn

I think most stadiums (at least those in CA) all have masking rules. Not sure about vax rules. Look in the stands, no one is wearing masks at games, ive been looking. No one is enforcing them.
Just checked,
Dodger stadium requires a clean covid test or Vax plus masks.
SoFi for Rams/Chargers, same vax or clean test plus mask
Staples Center, same recent clean test/Vax and masks
All seem to be following LA Country 1000+ person event rules.
Almost no one is wearing masks at these events.

The mayor of San Fran is exempt from wearing a mask, in a closed, night club because she was feeling the music in her soul and had to take it off and sing, sing sing! Also, as an elite she knows covid cannot affect her, because of her title.

Just admit the left media, the left politician and the left hypocrisy is off the charts.

Originally Posted by dougr

Just admit the left media, the left politician and the left hypocrisy is off the charts.

Agreed. That's not unique to the left tho.

Originally Posted by 95sn

I have 2 unvaxed friends in the ICU, antivax husband talked his 100+ lb over weight wife into not getting vaxxed, he is on a vent. Wonder what his thoughts are right about now.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...rries-increase
.

Probably the same as the double vaccinated female Olympic swimmer from Australia that took every precaution and is now hospitalized due to covid.

Originally Posted by 95sn

I think most stadiums (at least those in CA) all have masking rules. Not sure about vax rules. Look in the stands, no one is wearing masks at games, ive been looking. No one is enforcing them.
Just checked,
Dodger stadium requires a clean covid test or Vax plus masks.
SoFi for Rams/Chargers, same vax or clean test plus mask
Staples Center, same recent clean test/Vax and masks
All seem to be following LA Country 1000+ person event rules.
Almost no one is wearing masks at these events.

I thought the idea was to lead by example. Now your excuse is who cares nobody is following it so why should they ? Right ……why should the mayor of a city who forced closed businesses and took away business owners freedoms while she enjoyed her fine dining be the subject of discussion ? Oh that’s right, I forgot deflect , Orange man is bad.

Originally Posted by buffalow

Does the mask work? Does the vaccine work? Don't we need social distancing? Just turn on your favorite lib. award show and all those answers come true. They can pack a tent full of rich entertainment people and not a single mask to be found (except for the help staff). Oh, but science... Well F U! My kids still have to wear a mask in a classroom of 27 kids that all have to maintain distance and there are in a significantly less risky age bracket than all of these schmucks!

Do to the fact my daughters school has mandated masks and only allows 3 kids to a giant lunch table , they’ve had to put lunch tables in the gymnasium to accommodate the overflow. So while PE is going on , a 1//4 of the gym has lunch tables in there.

They’ve also had to stagger lunches so far apart to keep the numbers low because of minimal
Space Kids lunch periods are scheduled at 1020am. Imagine being forced to eat lunch at 1030 am and not being released tik 325. . Now add in students aren’t allowed to have snacks in the classroom to offset that early lunch. That’s should be a real productive day for that student. Now some teachers are handing out immediate detentions for students who are socially distanced , surrounded
By plexiglass at individual desks , to students who pull their mask down or
Improperly wear it below their nose. My daughter has AP physics after PE. She’s an athlete and goes hard at PE currently doing flag football and softball. She’s received 5 detentions for pushing her mask down in order to breathe while socially distanced behind plexiglass because physics is after PE and it’s been 90 plus out. Along w detention comes being late for sports practice. The rules are insane. Socially distancing is the top form of protection. If you’re 6ft away behind plexiglass from the next student wtf do you even need the mask for ? The teacher is 30ft plus away from The nearest front row student whom is hidden behind plexi glass to begin with . Now add I. The fact the teachers Bosnian accent is so strong the kids can’t understand her her through her mask at all.

Great ****ing learning environment fo Success that completely follows the science. Kids getting zero social skills and learning skills at one of the most important times in their life to shape them into adulthood. I guess I am supposed to just be happy they haven’t eliminated our honors and AP curriculum because it’s bias and unfair. Another great liberal learning policy hitting a cesspool of
Indoctrination near you.

Originally Posted by xstarrider

Do to the fact my daughters school has mandated masks and only allows 3 kids to a giant lunch table , they’ve had to put lunch tables in the gymnasium to accommodate the overflow. So while PE is going on , a 1//4 of the gym has lunch tables in there.

They’ve also had to stagger lunches so far apart to keep the numbers low because of minimal
Space Kids lunch periods are scheduled at 1020am. Imagine being forced to eat lunch at 1030 am and not being released tik 325. . Now add in students aren’t allowed to have snacks in the classroom to offset that early lunch. That’s should be a real productive day for that student. Now some teachers are handing out immediate detentions for students who are socially distanced , surrounded
By plexiglass at individual desks , to students who pull their mask down or
Improperly wear it below their nose. My daughter has AP physics after PE. She’s an athlete and goes hard at PE currently doing flag football and softball. She’s received 5 detentions for pushing her mask down in order to breathe while socially distanced behind plexiglass because physics is after PE and it’s been 90 plus out. Along w detention comes being late for sports practice. The rules are insane. Socially distancing is the top form of protection. If you’re 6ft away behind plexiglass from the next student wtf do you even need the mask for ? The teacher is 30ft plus away from The nearest front row student whom is hidden behind plexi glass to begin with . Now add I. The fact the teachers Bosnian accent is so strong the kids can’t understand her her through her mask at all.

Great ****ing learning environment fo Success that completely follows the science. Kids getting zero social skills and learning skills at one of the most important times in their life to shape them into adulthood. I guess I am supposed to just be happy they haven’t eliminated our honors and AP curriculum because it’s bias and unfair. Another great liberal learning policy hitting a cesspool of
Indoctrination near you.

The entire issue is insane, They all play together, they all see each other outside of school. they all meet at bday parties. have play dates, eat out with us parents. Its a process of compliance. SO to comply (and we all love our children) we genuinely know the process is for theater, as we know the teachers, principles and school board employees are not living a life in a mask, unless in front of the limelight.

Our schools has stated, we understand the reality of the mask issue, we are not forcing masking. we recommend them, either way, they are required to follow the state mandate and federal recommendations once a child is or maybe sick. So they are worried about lawsuits, knowing the entire process is fake.

The Illinois pandemic ain’t exactly what it appears to be.



More people under 50 ave been murdered in Chicago than died from covid in all of Illinois since it began. 1370 homicides 1260 covid deaths since the start.

How’s that for perspective. Absent are all the BLM marches in support of Black Lives. Daily news and fear mongeri g about an “ pandemic”. Statewide lockdowns , school closures, and business closures and sweeping mandates , the sky is falling . Daily rhetoric about people without vaccines are murderers and selfish.

Not a peep about the violence in the black community which has more effect in once city than covid does in the entire state.

Originally Posted by xstarrider

The Illinois pandemic ain’t exactly what it appears to be.



More people under 50 ave been murdered in Chicago than died from covid in all of Illinois since it began. 1370 homicides 1260 covid deaths since the start.

How’s that for perspective. Absent are all the BLM marches in support of Black Lives. Daily news and fear mongeri g about an “ pandemic”. Statewide lockdowns , school closures, and business closures and sweeping mandates , the sky is falling . Daily rhetoric about people without vaccines are murderers and selfish.

Not a peep about the violence in the black community which has more effect in once city than covid does in the entire state.

Chicago is awful. its almost like the state needs to have millions murdered before they learn how to vote. ITs sad, as more children have been murdered this year, than have died from covid. So those who like their democrat government must like the killing, or they would refund the police and remove the lefties and put in government with common sense.

ti be honest. I think the voters need to own it. Same with other blue states. If you vote them in, you must stay, stop leaving Cali and NYC, stay there, own it. Maybe if the pain gets so bad, people will wake up?

Originally Posted by xstarrider

I thought the idea was to lead by example. Now your excuse is who cares nobody is following it so why should they ? Right ……why should the mayor of a city who forced closed businesses and took away business owners freedoms while she enjoyed her fine dining be the subject of discussion ? Oh that’s right, I forgot deflect , Orange man is bad.

No, not the point. The point was that there are mandates that are not being followed or enforced.
I believe they should be followed or not allowed to continue. The SF mayor was wrong if she was not following protocol. Im deflecting anything on the bad orange guy.

Originally Posted by 95sn

No, not the point. The point was that there are mandates that are not being followed or enforced.
I believe they should be followed or not allowed to continue. The SF mayor was wrong if she was not following protocol. Im deflecting anything on the bad orange guy.

I think the bigger point is this. The pandemic as it currently stands while not great is not that bad. The whole country has pretty much been in this state now for months. Of course covid is going to spread under this context. Besides the delta variant being more contagious, the people have being performing pre covid activities in mass. With the data coming out of Israel and other places about natural immunity being better than the vaccine plus a decent amount of vaccinations, this is hopefully one of the last big hits before we are much better off moving forward. I see optimism moving forward.

This was the Mayor of San Francisco’s response to being caught violating the policies she put in place.



Don't feel as though you have to be micromanaged about mask wearing. Like, we don't need the fun police to come in and try and micromanage and tell us what we should or shouldn't be doing. We know what we need to do to protect ourselves," Breed told reporters on Friday when asked about the episode at a news conference.





That’s quite hypocritical coming from the mayor of San Francisco , the leader of being the fun police and implementing tyranny.

ITs funny, Australia shut down construction works, and also said protesting causes spread, as thousands are protesting in the streets. Maybe 95sn can give them a call and explain that as long as they have BLM or ANTIFA gear they can spread covid. And we can get the Mayor of san fran to tell the construction workers to do the YMCA dance and that would "make them performers" and you cant get covid if you are an actor

Lol, Australia has almost as many numpties as America!

Originally Posted by ralph

Lol, Australia has almost as many numpties as America!

Aren't you guys the rejects from the British rejects?

This is pure entertainment. The designers that mad AOC’s “Tax the Rich “ dress have not paid their own taxes. Hahahahahahha. They have multiple warrants and investigations , owe the IRS and have payroll fraud cases against them. Hahahahahahah.

“AMERICA”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.ya...180100451.html

So what you are saying is that AOC outed a tax cheat? Good on her.

Originally Posted by 95sn

So what you are saying is that AOC outed a tax cheat? Good on her.

Bwahahahahhaha. Is that what Psaki told everyone? Seriously tho. that was pretty good. I’ll give you that.



But seriously has there even been a more clueless or idiotic press secretary in the White House ? I mean this imbecile brings an entire new meaning to stupid. The left has seriously rolled out their greats under this administration . She’s kind of a perfect match to Biden.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Aren't you guys the rejects from the British rejects?

Lol no, Ausy was a prison settlement, NZ was a holiday park!

in her defense, defending this White House has to be the most challenging job on the planet

Originally Posted by ralph

Lol no, Ausy was a prison settlement, NZ was a holiday park!

Your lock-downs are starting to piss off my wife. Pretty much everywhere is running out of Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc. It is about to get real at my house if you guys don't get your **** together.

Originally Posted by skiboarder

Your lock-downs are starting to piss off my wife. Pretty much everywhere is running out of Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc. It is about to get real at my house if you guys don't get your **** together.

I'm sure the local consumption has gone through the roof, there is none left over to send to you. Good news is we are out now and production is restarting at break neck speed.

Oh no. The science once again proving the rhetoric wrong.



. NEW YORK — A new study of Texas prison inmates provides more evidence that coronavirus can spread even in groups where most people are vaccinated.

A COVID-19 outbreak at a federal prison in July and August infected 172 male inmates in two prison housing units, according to a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report released Tuesday.

About 80% of the inmates in the units had been vaccinated. More than 90% of the unvaccinated inmates wound up being infected, as did 70% of the fully vaccinated prisoners.

I mean today has been a serious side splitter of headlines. The left are going to eat their own and it’s going to be outstanding.


First we have Kamala Calling for investigations at the border. She clearly forgot she’s in charge of the border crisis.

Second we have BLM calling the Vaccine Mandates racist and will soon be burning down cities in protest yet again.



Lastly we have Biden’s administration calling the Russian election a fraud and unfair due to last minute changes in their system and an overnight influx of votes.





It’s incompetency at its finest on full display for the world. That’s not even going into all his foreign policy mistakes.

Originally Posted by xstarrider

Oh no. The science once again proving the rhetoric wrong.



. NEW YORK — A new study of Texas prison inmates provides more evidence that coronavirus can spread even in groups where most people are vaccinated.

A COVID-19 outbreak at a federal prison in July and August infected 172 male inmates in two prison housing units, according to a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report released Tuesday.

About 80% of the inmates in the units had been vaccinated. More than 90% of the unvaccinated inmates wound up being infected, as did 70% of the fully vaccinated prisoners.

How many of the vaccinated positive inmates were hospitalized compared to the nonvac'd?

Originally Posted by psudy

How many of the vaccinated positive inmates were hospitalized compared to the nonvac'd?

He always cuts out the stuff that proves he is wrong and an idiot to push anti vax crap during a pandemic. They didn't give all the info but they did include this fact.

" Severe illness, however, was more common among the unvaccinated. The hospitalization rate was almost 10 times higher for them compared with those who got the shots".

The entire AP article
https://kutv.com/news/nation-world/c...says-cdc-study

Originally Posted by ralph

I'm sure the local consumption has gone through the roof, there is none left over to send to you. Good news is we are out now and production is restarting at break neck speed.

We didn't freak out about toilet paper, paper towels or Clorox wipes, but my wife just ordered 2 cases of Matua and 2 cases of Oyster Bay. "to last us through the holidays....."