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I love how the left has held on to Justice K's college beer days, but hasn't said anything about Beto's dwi conviction.....priceless

Originally Posted by 95sn

Wrong again Delta. Ive provided some reading for you. Enjoy.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...O0K/story.html
The amount donated to causes says more to how moved people are about that cause. It does not relate to their individual wealth. I assume with that big tax cut the conman gave out you must have figured repubs would have raised more. Go figure, it did not work.


The conman used almost the exact same words just changed the name of the dictator. "I spoke with Putin/MBS and he emphatically denied any knowledge"..... When he lies he like to use pre-used words. Easier to remember I guess. Why does it take so long for the Saudis to get their story together. This was a pure and simple political hit. 2andahalf weeks? Why is the conman still backing his BS story. Does it have anything to do with the $100M the Saudis just deposited?
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0d38b58750505
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/18/w...tw-nytpolitics
https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-acti...ntel-cancelled


Always finding new ways to help the Trump $$ Brand that he lied he would step away.
https://democrats-oversight.house.go...on-not-to-sell

Background on how repubs managed (lied) to screw up the census results. A bad question on our census is going to harm CA

https://www.thedailybeast.com/wilbur...andal?ref=wrap

Guess that middle class tax break is working as planned.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/wa...ver-2018-10-18

If you cant beat them....suppress the vote.
https://www.salon.com/2018/10/12/dem...nor-to-resign/

You need to read your articles. Your salon article which has nothing to do with anything, states that the Republican is processing the ones that are eligible and that ACORN (the communist community organizing group) submitted the registrations in the first place. I smell a rat with the commirats.

I absolutely hope that the census crushes California. California is doing everything they can to subvert elections and over throw the United States government short of actual war. They very much need to ask that question because California and other states that allow illegals are gaming they system. If California wants money for the actual people living in the state, I say tough cookies. I live here and I overwhelming support screwing California. Then and only then will the citizens finally may pay attention to what the corrupt democrats are doing in this state.

I still don't see where the US government has any freaking thing to do with a Saudi National. I guess you have not read the other multiple reports about the US applying pressure against the Saudi's (even though it really is none of our business).

Ok. You democrats are moved. Does not disprove my position. Democrats are the party of the wealthy. I have never given one red cent to a political campaign nor will I. Apparently you democrats have a billion dollars laying around for a potentially goose egg. Imagine that.

Originally Posted by ord27

I love how the left has held on to Justice K's college beer days, but hasn't said anything about Beto's dwi conviction.....priceless

Or Clinton smoking weed and protesting America in Europe. Obama's drug habits. Again. Democrats control the media so this is the narrative we get.

last time i checked, the national census on family wealth was 60/40 dem to republican. They can sure raise money. If i was richie richie, i would want low wage, migrant workers to work for pennies too!. Even the illegals don't want more illegals to come in. We should band them together and create a WWF of illegal's and have the ones here fight off the thousands heading our way. Mexicans like wrestling, especially the masked wrestlers, so we can give them all masks. It think they would like masks.

They will all ride to the boarder on pot belly pigs, wearing howdy duty outfits and assless chaps screaming save the Alamo (we will make them honorary Texans, like the old days) They have already become Americans without being Americans, why not also make them Texans for the day.

Maybe we should have a march and take over mexico and push the mexicans into central america. All we have to do is show we are 1/1024th native american and say it was our land first. That would stop the wall argument, there is only 500 ish miles of gualemala mexico border, that wall would be much cheaper and we would have all the labor already there due to the take over, SO in lite of this simple solution. We would only have the existing, remaining, illegals to deal!

I think i am going to run for office, tell everyone I am a democrat, give them what they want to hear, then implement my master plan. I just don't know if it will work as labor rates are going up, the economy is doing well, and people are working for more, not less. Its going to be hard to find cheap labor to make all the wrestling masks! I hope we have a spike in unemployment so I can get these masked made, with unemployment so low, even the illegals want paid now! lol

Originally Posted by ord27

I love how the left has held on to Justice K's college beer days, but hasn't said anything about Beto's dwi conviction.....priceless

Thats part of why that toon was funny. All that he has accomplished is mitigated because he had friends and drank in college. Who F&*king cares.

LOL Sabo : Strikes!!!!!!

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainm...s-republicans/

I’m surprised the local Lib Loons are so quiet. Are u guys waiting for another Fake Outrage headline from your leaders CNN or MSNBC to tell you what to be mad about????

Originally Posted by grant_west

I’m surprised the local Lib Loons are so quiet. Are u guys waiting for another Fake Outrage headline from your leaders CNN or MSNBC to tell you what to be mad about????

Pretty sure they’re all at the pharmacy getting their butt lotion prescriptions filled. It’s been a rough month for them all.

Ah yes. More hugs and kisses from the heart of the Democrat party. https://www.yahoo.com/news/brett-kav...124325254.html

I heard Ben Shaperio making fun of Warren. He said “a Jeep Cherokee has more Indian DNA then Elizabeth Warren!” LOL LOL LOL

Just sent in my Voter Ballot : Vote out all the DemocRATS

Anyone wanna take bets who will come out on top in November?

[QUOTE=grant_west;1981750]I heard Ben Shaperio making fun of Warren. He said “a Jeep Cherokee has more Indian DNA then Elizabeth Warren!” LOL LOL LOL

That’s pretty good. LOL

You need to read your articles. Your salon article which has nothing to do with anything, states that the Republican is processing the ones that are eligible and that ACORN (the communist community organizing group) submitted the registrations in the first place. I smell a rat with the commirats.

The Republican is the Sec of State, he runs the campaign. BTW he is also running for Gov in the same campaign he is overseeing. In Georgia 32% of the population is black, 70% of the registrations he is holding back are black. And you smell a rat with the democrats??? Ya think?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ld/1608507002/

I absolutely hope that the census crushes California. California is doing everything they can to subvert elections and over throw the United States government short of actual war. They very much need to ask that question because California and other states that allow illegals are gaming they system. If California wants money for the actual people living in the state, I say tough cookies. I live here and I overwhelming support screwing California. Then and only then will the citizens finally may pay attention to what the corrupt democrats are doing in this state.

That is just stupidity. Doing something you know is wrong, just to penalize another. California has open elections everyone that is eligible to vote can. Get more voters. If you have policy that voters dislike change your policy to a winning one. There is no evidence that supports illegals are voting. Its just something that racists try to push. Move if you hate CA so much. Really, anywhere would be cheaper. GTFO.

I still don't see where the US government has any freaking thing to do with a Saudi National. I guess you have not read the other multiple reports about the US applying pressure against the Saudi's (even though it really is none of our business).

He was a US resident, working in the USA. MBS, trumps pal sent a 15 member hit squad to assassinate him. You think there is nothing wrong with a sitting US Pres. to openly lie and cover up for a Saudi prince. Remind me, where did most of the terrorists that hit NY towers come from?

Ok. You democrats are moved. Does not disprove my position. Democrats are the party of the wealthy. I have never given one red cent to a political campaign nor will I. Apparently you democrats have a billion dollars laying around for a potentially goose egg. Imagine that.

Ive never written a check for political purpose either. Are you trying to make the point that there are not wealthy repubs making contributions?? Kochs. Bros???
Here is a little list of who trumps tax plan was written for. Both parties have $$.
https://www.businessinsider.com/11-r...an-race-2012-3

Koch's hate Trump.

I'll tell you everything you need to know about American conservatism right here and right now: Republicans fall in line.

Hold on while I get some evidence...

The polling:

In just five years, white evangelicals have become much more likely to say a person who commits an “immoral” act can behave ethically in a public role. In 2011, just 30 percent of these evangelicals said this, but that number has more than doubled to 72 percent in a recent [2016, ed.] survey, a 42 point swing. (In 2011 44% of all Americans felt this way, by 2016 that number was up to 61%, a movement of 17 points.)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a625e3f8c816

75% of Republicans and 53% of Democrats said that Wikileaks release of classified diplomatic communications harms the public interest in 2010, 12% of Republicans and 48% of Democrats say that Wikileaks release of John Podesta's emails harms the public interest in 2016. (Not exactly the same question, but comprable, also a 63 point swing for Republicans and a 5 point change for Democrats.)
http://www.people-press.org/2010/12/...blic-interest/https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/1...est-wikileaks/

22% of Republicans and 37% of Democrats supported President Obama issuing missile strikes against Syria in 2013, 86% of Republicans and 38% of Democrats supported President Trump striking Syria in 2017, a 64 point swing for Republicans, a 1 point change for Democrats.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...der-obama.html

12% of Republicans and 15% of Democrats had a favorable view of Vladimir Putin in 2015, 32% of Republicans and 10% of Democrats have a favorable view of him in 2017, a 20 point swing for Republicans, a 5 point change for Democrats.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/204191/pu...publicans.aspx

17% of Republicans and 18% of Democrats said Russia was an ally of the US in July 2016, 31% of Republicans and 16% of Democrats saw them as an ally six months later in December 2016, a 14 point swing for Republicans and a 2 point change for Democrats.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...san-issue/amp/

39% of Republicans and 64% of Democrats thought their income tax rate was fair in 2016, 56% of Republicans and 69% of Democrats thought that their income tax rate was fair in 2017, a 17 point swing for Republicans and a 4 point change for Democrats. (The income tax rate did not change between 2016 and 2017, ed.)
http://www.gallup.com/poll/208511/am...axes-year.aspx

When Republican voters in Wisconsin were asked in October 2016 whether the economy had gotten better or worse “over the past year,” they said “worse’’ — by a margin of 28 points. But when they were asked the very same question [in March 2017], they said “better” — by a margin of 54 points. That’s a net swing of 82 percentage points between late October 2016 and mid-March 2017.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/b...omy/100502848/

"Forty-two percent of Trump voters think he should be allowed to have a private email server to just 39 percent who think he shouldn't be allowed to,"
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/m...nce-nixon.html

It's why the party of "national security" is doing everything in their power to hamstring federal investigations.
It's why the party of "fiscal responsibility" has no problems passing a $1,200,000,000,000.00 ($1.2t) tax cut.
It's why the party of "traditional marriage" nominated, elected, and now defend a thrice married adulterer.
It's why the party of "facts before feels" loves getting their panties in a twist watching Sean Hannity.
And it's why Republicans have the moral compass of a weather vane.

Republicans fall in line. If Mitch McConnell said the sky was orange so would all the rest of them.

your example could mean other things as well

.....polling is inaccurate

....republicans don't really get involved as much, unless there is a blast of media bias on an issue or against a person

....not all republicans like their representative, but they dislike the democrat even more

....I'm sure that this list can be a lot longer

I personally am about as tired of the label of moral whatever as I'm sure some democrats are of being labelled liberal

I am also sure that all of our government is bad with money. I would just rather spend the money on armed forces instead of massive social programs

Originally Posted by 95sn

The Republican is the Sec of State, he runs the campaign. BTW he is also running for Gov in the same campaign he is overseeing. In Georgia 32% of the population is black, 70% of the registrations he is holding back are black. And you smell a rat with the democrats??? Ya think?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ld/1608507002/

That is just stupidity. Doing something you know is wrong, just to penalize another. California has open elections everyone that is eligible to vote can. Get more voters. If you have policy that voters dislike change your policy to a winning one. There is no evidence that supports illegals are voting. Its just something that racists try to push. Move if you hate CA so much. Really, anywhere would be cheaper. GTFO.

He was a US resident, working in the USA. MBS, trumps pal sent a 15 member hit squad to assassinate him. You think there is nothing wrong with a sitting US Pres. to openly lie and cover up for a Saudi prince. Remind me, where did most of the terrorists that hit NY towers come from?



Ive never written a check for political purpose either. Are you trying to make the point that there are not wealthy repubs making contributions?? Kochs. Bros???
Here is a little list of who trumps tax plan was written for. Both parties have $$.
https://www.businessinsider.com/11-r...an-race-2012-3

Of course they are black. ACORN thrives in the inner city communities. Numbers are not always numbers unless you are trying to use the race card.

Your democrat logic working again with illegals. It has zero to do with illegals voting for this discussion. It has everything to do with allocation of Congressmen. More population a state has, the more representatives they get. Having several million illegals added to already democrat states like California is only done to hold power in Congress. I guess you have not been paying attention to all the midterm talks about the balance of power. Take your own advise. California is doing illegal acts so they need to pay for it. If you want your fair share, do it LEGALLY!!!

I am not moving from California. What I am going to do is support every tax and every initiative for succession of California that comes down the pike. I will do my best to help bankrupt this state or get it to leave the union. Only then will idiots wake up. Apparently you have it too good if you can't abide by the constitution.

Get more voters? Sorry, I am not against America in the name of getting voters like you democrats are. I don't believe we have to buy votes from non US citizens in order to stay in power and do the right things.

How is Trump the buddies of the Saudi's now? You one of these people that believes that the person you don't like automatically was buddies with bad people in the world? Of course, that is completely at odds with the mental disorder that is the democrats. They believe all cultures are equal and have merit. They don't and we have to do business with almost all of them. Always have. That is also why we don't want certain cultures to take hold in the USA. We know who and what they are, but that does not stop you democrats from wanting to just fill up the country with them.

The terrorists? They came from a democrat city. Boston. Same place as the marathon bombers. They were allowed to get on the planes due to the current democrat dog whistle at the time. The biggest issue with Sharpton and others running around at the time was racial profiling. Everyone was to scared to question why so many middle eastern fighting aged males where on a plain just to head across country.

On wealth, I am saying you democrats have $1 billion dollars laying around. Don't say Republicans are the party of the wealthy. That ship has sailed. What is it that you think the $1 billion is supposed to buy??? Congress people only make maybe a hundred grand a year.

Originally Posted by plhorn

I'll tell you everything you need to know about American conservatism right here and right now: Republicans fall in line.

Hold on while I get some evidence...

The polling:

In just five years, white evangelicals have become much more likely to say a person who commits an “immoral” act can behave ethically in a public role. In 2011, just 30 percent of these evangelicals said this, but that number has more than doubled to 72 percent in a recent [2016, ed.] survey, a 42 point swing. (In 2011 44% of all Americans felt this way, by 2016 that number was up to 61%, a movement of 17 points.)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a625e3f8c816

75% of Republicans and 53% of Democrats said that Wikileaks release of classified diplomatic communications harms the public interest in 2010, 12% of Republicans and 48% of Democrats say that Wikileaks release of John Podesta's emails harms the public interest in 2016. (Not exactly the same question, but comprable, also a 63 point swing for Republicans and a 5 point change for Democrats.)
http://www.people-press.org/2010/12/...blic-interest/https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/1...est-wikileaks/

22% of Republicans and 37% of Democrats supported President Obama issuing missile strikes against Syria in 2013, 86% of Republicans and 38% of Democrats supported President Trump striking Syria in 2017, a 64 point swing for Republicans, a 1 point change for Democrats.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...der-obama.html

12% of Republicans and 15% of Democrats had a favorable view of Vladimir Putin in 2015, 32% of Republicans and 10% of Democrats have a favorable view of him in 2017, a 20 point swing for Republicans, a 5 point change for Democrats.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/204191/pu...publicans.aspx

17% of Republicans and 18% of Democrats said Russia was an ally of the US in July 2016, 31% of Republicans and 16% of Democrats saw them as an ally six months later in December 2016, a 14 point swing for Republicans and a 2 point change for Democrats.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...san-issue/amp/

39% of Republicans and 64% of Democrats thought their income tax rate was fair in 2016, 56% of Republicans and 69% of Democrats thought that their income tax rate was fair in 2017, a 17 point swing for Republicans and a 4 point change for Democrats. (The income tax rate did not change between 2016 and 2017, ed.)
http://www.gallup.com/poll/208511/am...axes-year.aspx

When Republican voters in Wisconsin were asked in October 2016 whether the economy had gotten better or worse “over the past year,” they said “worse’’ — by a margin of 28 points. But when they were asked the very same question [in March 2017], they said “better” — by a margin of 54 points. That’s a net swing of 82 percentage points between late October 2016 and mid-March 2017.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/b...omy/100502848/

"Forty-two percent of Trump voters think he should be allowed to have a private email server to just 39 percent who think he shouldn't be allowed to,"
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/m...nce-nixon.html

It's why the party of "national security" is doing everything in their power to hamstring federal investigations.
It's why the party of "fiscal responsibility" has no problems passing a $1,200,000,000,000.00 ($1.2t) tax cut.
It's why the party of "traditional marriage" nominated, elected, and now defend a thrice married adulterer.
It's why the party of "facts before feels" loves getting their panties in a twist watching Sean Hannity.
And it's why Republicans have the moral compass of a weather vane.

Republicans fall in line. If Mitch McConnell said the sky was orange so would all the rest of them.

At this point I hate you democrats so much and are so against the country, I will side with anyone that you dislike. Pretty much if you are against them, they are either A) doing something right B) Pro-America C) made up narrative for you to stay in power D) all the above.

On congress with money? Now you know why Republicans don't like government.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

At this point I hate you democrats so much and are so against the country, I will side with anyone that you dislike. Pretty much if you are against them, they are either A) doing something right B) Pro-America C) made up narrative for you to stay in power D) all the above.

Like i said. You have the moral compass of a weather vane. You dont care about right or wrong. Only that your team wins.

Originally Posted by plhorn

Like i said. You have the moral compass of a weather vane. You dont care about right or wrong. Only that your team wins.

Funny democrats lecturing on morals. The party of hollywood and who is screwing who determines what special rights you get.

I have determined that if democrats are for it, then it usually is in the name of destroying America in the name of globalism and in destroying Christianity. It no longer is about protecting workers. Heck, you guys have completely thrown out your old discussion points of individual rights in the name of pushing authoritarianism. My side is Americans first. Yours is the world first. Sorry. I believe America is one of the exceptional countries in the history of the world. You don't create greatness by tearing yourself down to be like other dysfunctional cultures.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Sorry. I believe America is one of the exceptional countries in the history of the world. You don't create greatness by tearing yourself down to be like other dysfunctional cultures.

You show me someone who tells everyone that they are the best, and I will show you someone who isn't trying to get any better.

Originally Posted by plhorn

Like i said. You have the moral compass of a weather vane. You dont care about right or wrong. Only that your team wins.

BWHAHA! The hypocrisy is amazing!

Are you going to let some of the immigrants in the caravan stay at your place Horn?

Originally Posted by plhorn

You show me someone who tells everyone that they are the best, and I will show you someone who isn't trying to get any better.

You just shown me someone who has binary thinking. We can have high standards and still not want to drop to the lowest common denominator.

Ivy League schools come to mind. Many companies hiring practices. If you don't have a degree from a certain list of schools, you don't get hired for hi end jobs in the company. You have to start at the bottom or mid tier and show your work. I would say institutions like that are absolutely trying to get better and at the same time hold standards.

Getting better is a process. Our constitution is the manifestation of 2000 years of trials and tribulations in the way people were able to govern themselves. We also developed standards on human rights and the way we even engineer everything with the highest regard to personal safety vs anywhere in the world. That is why our systems work better than the Russian system coming out of the WW2 and into the cold war. They built cheap and mass produced because they had plenty of people to die if they did not function. We engineered for the individual. Vast majority of our expertise came from Northern and Central Europe and home grown which was mostly Northern and Central Europe. We now have much influence from Asian (Japan and Korea) regarding engineering and design.

My question to you is what would be the motivation to take anyone who is not from these high potential areas that also have similar forms of government? I would say if you don't come from one of these high performing areas, you would need to show proof of employment potential and have a much shorter leash so to speak. Why do the democrats want to fill the ranks of immigrants with the uneducated socialist countries? I believe I know the answer.

Dinesh D'Souza
America is not a nation "built by immigrants." It is a nation built by settlers that subsequently attracted millions of immigrants.


Can someone point out (where in this picture) are the Immigrants that built this country that the Democrats keep pointing to are?

Settlers didn't invade an established country, they ventured into uncharted lands. I don't know of anyone against legal immigration. Only the left in their myopic brainwashed stupor can believe millions of undocumented illegals is a good thing.

You are quoting a convicted felon. I think he also incorrectly said the democrats platform in 2016 was like the third reich. Why would there be immigrants in the picture? Wouldn't you expect slaves? What is the point you are not making?

At this point I hate you democrats so much and are so against the country, I will side with anyone that you dislike. Pretty much if you are against them, they are either A) doing something right B) Pro-America C) made up narrative for you to stay in power D) all the above.

Delta, you are proving the point day after day. You are swinging at your perceived enemy. You have incorrectly generalized the democratic party down to one single vison in your head....and its wrong. Just like when you generalized me as "your" typical democrat, you said I couldn't feed, cloth, put food on the table or find my way out of the forest. You were proved 100% wrong. They are not that organized. They are not attacking the country. They are not attacking you. Hollywood is not running or attacking the country. They are not "buying votes" from non US citizens. How does a non US citizen vote? They cant, didn't trumps voter patrol prove that?
The republicans are flat out suppressing the right of US citizens to vote.
In Georgia they use the "exact match" rule. If your ID says Tom but voter regis says Thomas, its tossed. Live on Main Street but ID says Main St. its tossed. If ID says your name is Tammy Smith, but you just got married, Tammy Smith Jones cannot vote. Its complete BS, anti American. How about requiring a street address. In tribal reservations it is more common to not have a physical address... they do not use addresses. This was a laser strike by the republicans to suppress the vote of American Indians , they changed the rules just weeks before the election. How low can you go to suppress the rights of the original americans. Its sickening.
https://www.elle.com/culture/career-...r-suppression/
https://www.motherjones.com/politics...own-in-kansas/
https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...r-suppression/
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ession/565355/

Are you going to let some of the immigrants in the caravan stay at your place Horn?

Do you mean the democrat funded caravan? Just the middle eastern terrorists and MS-13 gang members. lol.

Koch's hate Trump.

Republicans, not trump.

Originally Posted by 95sn

You are quoting a convicted felon. I think he also incorrectly said the democrats platform in 2016 was like the third reich. Why would there be immigrants in the picture? Wouldn't you expect slaves? What is the point you are not making?


Delta, you are proving the point day after day. You are swinging at your perceived enemy. You have incorrectly generalized the democratic party down to one single vison in your head....and its wrong. Just like when you generalized me as "your" typical democrat, you said I couldn't feed, cloth, put food on the table or find my way out of the forest. You were proved 100% wrong. They are not that organized. They are not attacking the country. They are not attacking you. Hollywood is not running or attacking the country. They are not "buying votes" from non US citizens. How does a non US citizen vote? They cant, didn't trumps voter patrol prove that?
The republicans are flat out suppressing the right of US citizens to vote.
In Georgia they use the "exact match" rule. If your ID says Tom but voter regis says Thomas, its tossed. Live on Main Street but ID says Main St. its tossed. If ID says your name is Tammy Smith, but you just got married, Tammy Smith Jones cannot vote. Its complete BS, anti American. How about requiring a street address. In tribal reservations it is more common to not have a physical address... they do not use addresses. This was a laser strike by the republicans to suppress the vote of American Indians , they changed the rules just weeks before the election. How low can you go to suppress the rights of the original americans. Its sickening.
https://www.elle.com/culture/career-...r-suppression/
https://www.motherjones.com/politics...own-in-kansas/
https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...r-suppression/
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ession/565355/


Do you mean the democrat funded caravan? Just the middle eastern terrorists and MS-13 gang members. lol.

Republicans, not trump.

Speaking about "you" was more of a general shot at big city democrats. Of course there will be the in between, however a vast majority of these big city areas are how I generalized.

They are very much that organized. That is the mistake you are making. For crying out loud, Soro's main reason for existing is his open borders initiatives and his billions invested into these groups to push for that. He literally says it out loud. Gray Davis the former governor of California made a public speech in Mexico stating that is exactly his plan. He wanted Mexico and California to be one great region again. He said it out loud. All the policies in California say exactly this is the goal. I do not know how much clearer this could be. There has never been a demographic shift as large as California in the last decade without a major war. That is a historical fact.

You still don't get the non citizen thing do you? READ CAREFULLY!! They get counted in the census thus the state of California gets to claim them as their population density. You get a number of congressmen assigned based on the population of your state vs other states. More people in California means more California House of Representative members who represent democrat districts. That means the democrats take over the house.

If you are talking about illegals voting. That is a different question but it is easy. Motor voting bill that passed along with Illegals able to obtain drivers license. You can register online with a drivers license. You can also check the box at the DMV. I got registered to vote twice because of this. I thought I had to re-register when I moved but apparently it followed me. On the other front, the illegals kids will vote within 18 years and most likely per their parents point of view.

Hollywood not attacking the country? Name one conservative comedy show or award show? You want to go on about how many hollywood elites with Billions of dollars contribute to democrat causes and go on anti conservative diatribes nightly?

I thought tribal Indians wanted to be outside of America? They should have an address. Same with matching name. You are required by law to have an official ID with your name on it. It is required to be on your person at all times and you can and will be detained by law enforcement until you produce said document. Should not have been that hard for them to fill out the voter registration based on their actual name. ACORN is a dirty organization. The only recourse is to try and follow the law in order to counteract their organization. Why is it white people are not suppress but it happens to just be black people? Black people not capable of having ID? My wifes vote was suppressed. They did not include her on the voter roles last election even though she registered. It happens.

Just because your articles say "voter suppression law" does not mean they were voter suppression laws. That is the curse of article writing. The author gets to pick their interpretation of the article and give it a name. Then people like you search for them and use that as basis for your article.

You know in California they call it voter suppression if you try and require an ID to vote? Why is that?

Originally Posted by grant_west

dinesh d'souza
america is not a nation "built by immigrants." it is a nation built by settlers that subsequently attracted millions of immigrants.


Can someone point out (where in this picture) are the immigrants that built this country that the democrats keep pointing to are?

antifa 1776?

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

antifa 1776?

More like Conservatives 1776. British tried to disarm the colonists. Tax them and use the money for their own projects that did not include those who were taxed. No representation in government.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

More like Conservatives 1776. British tried to disarm the colonists. Tax them and use the money for their own projects that did not include those who were taxed. No representation in government.

Lol my point was really more that that boat full of traitors were committing treason. Fer realz.

It is a cool painting by a German guy from 75 years after the fact tho. Probably 100% factually accurate.

Looking forward to hearing from this site how the bomb letters sent to Obama, Hillary and Soro were really send from the violent left to make the Republicans look like a bunch of nutjobs.

Looking forward to them ever finding who sent the bombs. Yet everyone other person whos mailed anthrax or other has been caught.

Originally Posted by plhorn

Looking forward to hearing from this site how the bomb letters sent to Obama, Hillary and Soro were really send from the violent left to make the Republicans look like a bunch of nutjobs.

You pretty much nailed my perspective on it. October surprise baby. really convient timing considering the talking points are about the leftist mobs rioting and beating up people all over the country. Funny how the press works. They put out a statement saying suspicious packages and they put in quotes "possible bombs". Now you are out running around saying they were mailed bombs. Funny how that works.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Now you are out running around saying they were mailed bombs. Funny how that works.

Press secretary Sanders issued a statement Wednesday morning saying the White House condemns "the attempted violent attacks recently made against President Obama, President Clinton, Secretary Clinton, and other public figures."

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...ns-home-935374

What kind of violent attacks get sent in the mail other than bombs?

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

Press secretary Sanders issued a statement Wednesday morning saying the White House condemns "the attempted violent attacks recently made against President Obama, President Clinton, Secretary Clinton, and other public figures."

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...ns-home-935374

What kind of violent attacks get sent in the mail other than bombs?

For starters Anthrax, Ricin....

So you agree the current administration does a better job condemning violence than any leftist politician has done as of late?

Has anyone offered one iota of evidence this was from any sort of right wing group other than rampant speculation because of who was targeted? I'm not a really smart man, but even I could figure out Soros, the Clintons, the Obamas, don't check their own mail & sending them anything is useless. Never mind that all packages are scanned for explosives & fire arms, which is what makes slipping drugs by so easy as their focus is on bombs & guns. Many big drug dealers were caught due to cameras at the post office & DNA on the packages. But nothing here...

Soros package was hand delivered to Soros residence. Oddly enough his security cameras & vast security detail caught nothing & Soros son already had an op-ed condemning right violence ready to go. I'm ready to damn anyone trying to kill political enemies but lets see some sort of, any evidence of this being by a right wing group.

I don’t think anyone knows anything about who sent these yet?

I was responding only to Deltas comment about bombs being bad reporting.

Please Carry on with speculation about how Soros tried to Bomb himself.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

I don’t think anyone knows anything about who sent these yet?

I was responding only to Deltas comment about bombs being bad reporting.

Please Carry on with speculation about how Soros tried to Bomb himself.

Again, Soros doesn't check his own mail. How was he going to get bombed? Hand delivered & not captured on camera? Please, carry on that it's inconceivable this was a leftist stunt. It took what, two days for the guy sending Ricin to get caught.

Originally Posted by wombat2wombat

Again, Soros doesn't check his own mail. How was he going to get bombed? Hand delivered & not captured on camera? Please, carry on that it's inconceivable this was a leftist stunt. It took what, two days for the guy sending Ricin to get caught.

Yep. I smell a rat.

My guess is these people get suspicious packages 10 times a week and they certainly don't get their own mail. Only reason this is in the press because they want it to be in the press as a talking point. Politics is pretty transparent and obvious. Like you said, odd that Soros son already had an op ed ready to go.

Kind of like when Boxer and Hillary already had their talking points distributed and were having press releases about American "assault weapons" crossing the border. They were starting their anti gun campaign again but got caught being the ones with the receipt. They shut down the talking points real quick. Never heard another word.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Yep. I smell a rat.

My guess is these people get suspicious packages 10 times a week and they certainly don't get their own mail. Only reason this is in the press because they want it to be in the press as a talking point. Politics is pretty transparent and obvious. Like you said, odd that Soros son already had an op ed ready to go.

Kind of like when Boxer and Hillary already had their talking points distributed and were having press releases about American "assault weapons" crossing the border. They were starting their anti gun campaign again but got caught being the ones with the receipt. They shut down the talking points real quick. Never heard another word.

They move on very quickly from one crafted problem to the next. I am seeing a lot of people pointing out the letters CNN put up showing the "mailed" envelopes doesn't have any of the markings it would have if the post office processed the mail where the stamps go. Can't really argue with that, every letter package what not gets the red lines through the stamps. I've also crafted better fireworks as a kid than those "bombs" appear to be made.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Yep. I smell a rat.

There's an Alex Jones stench in here. I smell it too.

Originally Posted by fly135

There's an Alex Jones stench in here. I smell it too.

Not even sure who that is?

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

Not even sure who that is?

Just a random name I made up.

More violence from those damn lefties!!

They move on very quickly from one crafted problem to the next

Soo, you mean like the conman creating the problem of immigration when it is at the lowest level in decades? Or that Democrats are the party of lawlessness and Open borders. Or the caravan is full of middle eastern terrorists and MS13 Gang members. Or when Trade with Canada becomes a National Security issue. Or when the democrats were killing corporate profits thru regulation (never mind the stock market and corporate profits were at all time highs), Or the media is the enemy of the people and FAKE NEWS while the wife of SCJ Thomas is retweeting fake news about the migrant caravan and violence. Or when "ONLY I CAN save America". If Democrats win in the midterms there will be violence and mayhem. Or when he uses FEAR to motivate his cult. Its from con/carney school 101, Fear is a better motivator than opportunity to gain. He keeps creating bullies to protect you from. When the only thing you care about is hating democrats, America loses. DJT is tearing the country apart to his benefit, not yours. For you he just fixed healthcare and eliminated pre-existing conditions for insurance companies. I really hope no-one or their families have pre-existing conditions and need healthcare ins. Best wishes.
Look at the articles on his site, it is almost all psychologically Fear based. http://trump.news/2018-10-17-democra...elections.html

Be careful when they hand out the Kool-Aid.

You still don't get the non citizen thing do you? READ CAREFULLY!! They get counted in the census thus the state of California gets to claim them as their population density. You get a number of congressmen assigned based on the population of your state vs other states. More people in California means more California House of Representative members who represent democrat districts. That means the democrats take over the house.

I understand how it works and it is not just about representation (which is super important too). "Those people" ARE part of the population, it is not a "claim". All of CA is not registered democrats, plenty of districts are quite Red. Off the top of my head...Tulare, Nunez district, Orange county, lots of agricultural areas are Red. You are screwing your own cause and the census folks are screwing our state. In addition to representation its also how the fed spreads $$ to states. What happens when CA gets shorted because of a rigged census? Everyone gets screwed, not just democrats. You, your neighbor, your family, me. Yes, CA gets more $$ if the census counts ALL residents. CA isn't claiming they are residents, they ARE residents.

On the other front, the illegals kids will vote within 18 years and most likely per their parents point of view.

You are worried about 18 years from now so you want to skew the census? You do realize that if they are citizens, they would be exercising their right to vote. Are you proposing it should be illegal for US citizens to vote? How very white of you. Do you vote your parents point of view? Clear your mind bro, we are not all out to get you. We are not enemies.

Hollywood not attacking the country? Name one conservative comedy show or award show? You want to go on about how many hollywood elites with Billions of dollars contribute to democrat causes and go on anti conservative diatribes nightly?

I cant really respond. I dont watch that kind of stuff. I watch sports (NBA, NFL, MLB) and car shows on Velocity, A little History channel. Not much more. Maybe republicans arnt funny. Isnt trump out there every night in a different city doing the same thing with his 70's era Vegas/Vaudeville comedy routine of blasting Democrats as violent, an unhinged mob, lawless, borderless, "They (ALL DEMOCRATS) want to abolish US Immigration and Customs enforcement" , Lock Her UP (does that one ever get old?, election was 2016) I do agree with you in a sidwayz sort of way...Money in politics. Its obscene, it removes "the people" from politics as we dont have the currency to compete with super pacs, billionaires or even millionaires. Here is a guy trying to eliminate that issue for you.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/money-in-politics/

I thought tribal Indians wanted to be outside of America? They should have an address. Same with matching name. You are required by law to have an official ID with your name on it. It is required to be on your person at all times and you can and will be detained by law enforcement until you produce said document. Should not have been that hard for them to fill out the voter registration based on their actual name. ACORN is a dirty organization. The only recourse is to try and follow the law in order to counteract their organization. Why is it white people are not suppress but it happens to just be black people? Black people not capable of having ID? My wifes vote was suppressed. They did not include her on the voter roles last election even though she registered. It happens.

Just because your articles say "voter suppression law" does not mean they were voter suppression laws. That is the curse of article writing. The author gets to pick their interpretation of the article and give it a name. Then people like you search for them and use that as basis for your article.

You know in California they call it voter suppression if you try and require an ID to vote? Why is that?

Tribes have a right to vote, dont act like an idiot. Tribes do not work on the same address structure the rest of us do. Your response cannot be "they should have addresses". Reservations do not have addresses. Restricting the vote to only those with an address is specifically suppressive to American Indians bonus points for the republican SEc. of State for coming out with the new guidelines weeks prior to election. Why not restrict the vote to only those who are homeowners? Is that suppressive? Or white? You dont seem to understand about "name matching". Thats not it, it is EXACT MATCH. Tom Smith and Thom Smith or T Smith do not match. Neither does 123 1st Street and 123 1st St. Nor 123 Delta Avenue and 123 Delta Av. and 123 Delta Ave. If its not an exact match, no vote. The "mistake" could have been created on the administrative side. Voter specifies his address as 123 Delta Avenue, data entry enters 123 Delta Ave. Now the person shows up to vote with his true and accurate 123 Delta Avenue ID and cannot vote. That IS voter suppression. The republican sec of states are using data to pinpoint ways to stop minorities from voting. Even when that Republican sec of state is on the ballot he oversees...he is suppressing Black votes he assumes will not vote for him. If you were running for office and got to pick the neighborhoods that could and could not vote, do you think you would have an advantage?

Back to those damn Violent lefties.

https://slate.com/business/2018/10/t...tions-lie.html

Originally Posted by 95sn

More violence from those damn lefties!!



Soo, you mean like the conman creating the problem of immigration when it is at the lowest level in decades? Or that Democrats are the party of lawlessness and Open borders. Or the caravan is full of middle eastern terrorists and MS13 Gang members. Or when Trade with Canada becomes a National Security issue. Or when the democrats were killing corporate profits thru regulation (never mind the stock market and corporate profits were at all time highs), Or the media is the enemy of the people and FAKE NEWS while the wife of SCJ Thomas is retweeting fake news about the migrant caravan and violence. Or when "ONLY I CAN save America". If Democrats win in the midterms there will be violence and mayhem. Or when he uses FEAR to motivate his cult. Its from con/carney school 101, Fear is a better motivator than opportunity to gain. He keeps creating bullies to protect you from. When the only thing you care about is hating democrats, America loses. DJT is tearing the country apart to his benefit, not yours. For you he just fixed healthcare and eliminated pre-existing conditions for insurance companies. I really hope no-one or their families have pre-existing conditions and need healthcare ins. Best wishes.
Look at the articles on his site, it is almost all psychologically Fear based. http://trump.news/2018-10-17-democra...elections.html

Be careful when they hand out the Kool-Aid.



I understand how it works and it is not just about representation (which is super important too). "Those people" ARE part of the population, it is not a "claim". All of CA is not registered democrats, plenty of districts are quite Red. Off the top of my head...Tulare, Nunez district, Orange county, lots of agricultural areas are Red. You are screwing your own cause and the census folks are screwing our state. In addition to representation its also how the fed spreads $$ to states. What happens when CA gets shorted because of a rigged census? Everyone gets screwed, not just democrats. You, your neighbor, your family, me. Yes, CA gets more $$ if the census counts ALL residents. CA isn't claiming they are residents, they ARE residents.

You are worried about 18 years from now so you want to skew the census? You do realize that if they are citizens, they would be exercising their right to vote. Are you proposing it should be illegal for US citizens to vote? How very white of you. Do you vote your parents point of view? Clear your mind bro, we are not all out to get you. We are not enemies.

I cant really respond. I dont watch that kind of stuff. I watch sports (NBA, NFL, MLB) and car shows on Velocity, A little History channel. Not much more. Maybe republicans arnt funny. Isnt trump out there every night in a different city doing the same thing with his 70's era Vegas/Vaudeville comedy routine of blasting Democrats as violent, an unhinged mob, lawless, borderless, "They (ALL DEMOCRATS) want to abolish US Immigration and Customs enforcement" , Lock Her UP (does that one ever get old?, election was 2016) I do agree with you in a sidwayz sort of way...Money in politics. Its obscene, it removes "the people" from politics as we dont have the currency to compete with super pacs, billionaires or even millionaires. Here is a guy trying to eliminate that issue for you.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/money-in-politics/

Tribes have a right to vote, dont act like an idiot. Tribes do not work on the same address structure the rest of us do. Your response cannot be "they should have addresses". Reservations do not have addresses. Restricting the vote to only those with an address is specifically suppressive to American Indians bonus points for the republican SEc. of State for coming out with the new guidelines weeks prior to election. Why not restrict the vote to only those who are homeowners? Is that suppressive? Or white? You dont seem to understand about "name matching". Thats not it, it is EXACT MATCH. Tom Smith and Thom Smith or T Smith do not match. Neither does 123 1st Street and 123 1st St. Nor 123 Delta Avenue and 123 Delta Av. and 123 Delta Ave. If its not an exact match, no vote. The "mistake" could have been created on the administrative side. Voter specifies his address as 123 Delta Avenue, data entry enters 123 Delta Ave. Now the person shows up to vote with his true and accurate 123 Delta Avenue ID and cannot vote. That IS voter suppression. The republican sec of states are using data to pinpoint ways to stop minorities from voting. Even when that Republican sec of state is on the ballot he oversees...he is suppressing Black votes he assumes will not vote for him. If you were running for office and got to pick the neighborhoods that could and could not vote, do you think you would have an advantage?

Back to those damn Violent lefties.

Uh.... You realize they have CAUGHT 400,000 people at the border so far this year.

People who are tearing the country apart are democrats. I can not watch a single show without some leftist going on a diatribe about Republicans and fly over people. I see it with my own eyes and hear it with my own ears. You are on here nearly every day with some Trump conspiracy. Even when I left for a while, I read at least 3 times a week. You were on here with your nonsense. I have seen the riots by leftist and have seen their destruction. Hell my wife worked them. I have heard your democrat leaders speeches about open borders and Soro's billions of dollars given to leftist groups to lobby for such things. You are the enemy.

You democrats say you don't want open borders. You just don't want the country to refuse anyone. F off with that stupid a$$ logic. It is the same dang thing. You are the enemy.

Again just like a good little democrat you are, you ignore the words. Illegals counted in the census is designed to give power to the democrats. PERIOD! You will sell the country to the highest bidder for votes. That is why you are the enemy. IF you are illegal, you should not qualify for any funding period! The state that harbors them should have their funds cut. period.

In 18 years, they will be democrat voters. How do you think in the last 20 years California went from a Republican state to a +3 million vote for democrats? Illegal immigration is how. Illegals children are now voting democrat. Those children should have never have been in the state. It is a loop hole that needs to be stopped.

The reason Trump is saying democrats want to abolish ICE is because they actually said it out loud themselves. They backed off of it because it sounded to radical to say out loud before the midterms. Gob bless man. Pick up a paper. You are the enemy.

Bernie wants to get rid of superpacs so only Unions have the money to influence elections. That and democrat billionaries. How did Bernie the socialist get so rich when he start out so poor? How did Obama and the Clintons get so rich on a $250,000 year job?

Why is it only black votes that are being suppressed? Why is it white people seem to be able to make it through this so called rigged system? Ever ask yourself that? Because your democratness sees race in all things. It has nothing to do with race. It is the rules. All people have to abide by them. Matter of fact, most of these rules impact country people more because they have a much harder time traveling. As far as name matching. It should be an exact match. Like I said, I am on the ballot twice. Once with my proper name and once with my abbreviation. If I wanted to be illegal, I can no problem vote twice.

Originally Posted by fly135

Just a random name I made up.

I'm pretty sure it is a girl/ guy you idolize on Youtube......

I hope they catch the person that mailed the “Pipe Bombs” to the Lefty’s. My money is that if and when they catch they you will find out that the person or persons are Democrats. I bet they sent them selfs fake bombs to try and paint the Republicans as un hinged as they are.

Originally Posted by grant_west

I hope they catch the person that mailed the “Pipe Bombs” to the Lefty’s. My money is that if and when they catch they you will find out that the person or persons are Democrats. I bet they sent them selfs fake bombs to try and paint the Republicans as un hinged as they are.

I’d bet big money on that.

I got a laugh out of this guys post:

So far the FBI has there is either a treasure trove of evidence as always bombs or the bomber(s) is very talented. However, the bombs don't work so the latter is probably not the case. If a righty made them they would work.

Can't type today: So far the FBI has SAID there is a either a tres of eveidence as always WITH bombs

Why is this bomb the first time ever that the bomb squad or FBI put up pics of it the day of? Only in bizaro world

Apparently, the address's and names had several misspellings.... I'd suspect Grant, but I'm betting he'd build a pretty damn good bomb.

Originally Posted by wombat2wombat

Why is this bomb the first time ever that the bomb squad or FBI put up pics of it the day of? Only in bizaro world

Deep state, duh.

Originally Posted by plhorn

Apparently, the address's and names had several misspellings.... I'd suspect Grant, but I'm betting he'd build a pretty damn good bomb.

Okay, that was funny as ****

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

Deep state, duh.

Same deep state that didn't say a damn thing about all the Ricin deliveries two weeks ago I suppose. It was okay then.....But no, answer the question, show me one example of where a pic of a bomb was shown like they did here? Flippin clock boy made a more believable device & got to meet the president for his trouble.

Originally Posted by wombat2wombat

Same deep state that didn't say a damn thing about all the Ricin deliveries two weeks ago I suppose. It was okay then.....But no, answer the question, show me one example of where a pic of a bomb was shown like they did here? Flippin clock boy made a more believable device & got to meet the president for his trouble.

Exactly. Prolly what Mueller and the 17 angry dems have been up to for the past 6 months in their secret lair.

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

Exactly. Prolly what Mueller and the 17 angry dems have been up to for the past 6 months in their secret lair.

So nothing. Just like the Mueller probe?

Ohhhhh, coming out now. The USPS DOES NOT deliver to the homes of anyone under secret service protection, all mail is delivered to a secret service facility then dispatched, by the secret service to the addressee. But just this time it slipped past them.

Originally Posted by wombat2wombat

So nothing. Just like the Mueller probe?

Every time someone says something like this I gotta think you're living under a rock.

So far the Muller probe has had more than 100 criminal counts against 32 people and three companies

George Papadopoulos, Former campaign adviser, Lying to the F.B.I. about conversations with people he believed were working on behalf of Russians (pleaded guilty Oct. 5, 2017) Sentenced to 14 days in prison Sept. 7, 2018

Sam Patten Lobbyist linked to Paul Manafort Failing to register to work as an agent of a foreign power Pleaded guilty Aug. 31, 2018
Paul Manafort Former campaign chairman Tax and bank fraud, false statements, being an unregistered agent of a foreign principal, obstruction of justice Convicted of financial fraud Aug. 21, 2018

Michael D. Cohen Mr. Trump’s former lawyer Tax evasion, bank fraud, campaign finance violations Pleaded guilty Aug. 21, 2018

Alex van der Zwaan Lawyer who worked with Mr. Manafort and Mr. Gates Lying to investigators about conversations with Mr. Gates (pleaded guilty Feb. 20, 2018) Sentenced to 30 days in prison April 3, 2018

Rick Gates Former campaign adviser Financial fraud and lying to the F.B.I. Pleaded guilty Feb. 23, 2018

Richard Pinedo California man who sold bank accounts online, Identity fraud, Pleaded guilty Feb. 12, 2018

Michael T. Flynn Former national security adviser, Lying to the F.B.I. about conversations with the Russian ambassador Pleaded guilty Dec. 1, 2017

Thirteen Russian nationals and three related companies, Conspiracy to defraud the U.S., conspiracy to commit bank fraud, identity theft

Konstantin V. Kilimnik Russian Army-trained linguist and associate of Mr. Manafort, Obstruction of justice

Twelve Russian intelligence officers Conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, identity theft, conspiracy to launder money



That is not my definition of "nothing"

Originally Posted by wombat2wombat

Ohhhhh, coming out now. The USPS DOES NOT deliver to the homes of anyone under secret service protection, all mail is delivered to a secret service facility then dispatched, by the secret service to the addressee. But just this time it slipped past them.

Who are you referring to? I thought the Clinton and Obama packages were intercepted during routine screening?

I’m glad Jimmy Carter has been omitted from the list.

Originally Posted by wombat2wombat

Ohhhhh, coming out now. The USPS DOES NOT deliver to the homes of anyone under secret service protection, all mail is delivered to a secret service facility then dispatched, by the secret service to the addressee. But just this time it slipped past them.

Some of the packages were hand delivered.

How are you so sure that the government is completely incompetent and yet able to pull off massive cover ups at the same time? Do you not see that these things are mutually exclusive?

Originally Posted by plhorn

Some of the packages were hand delivered.

How are you so sure that the government is completely incompetent and yet able to pull off massive cover ups at the same time? Do you not see that these things are mutually exclusive?

Hand delivered, to secure residences with security details & cameras. Derp.

Originally Posted by plhorn

Every time someone says something like this I gotta think you're living under a rock.

So far the Muller probe has had more than 100 criminal counts against 32 people and three companies

George Papadopoulos, Former campaign adviser, Lying to the F.B.I. about conversations with people he believed were working on behalf of Russians (pleaded guilty Oct. 5, 2017) Sentenced to 14 days in prison Sept. 7, 2018

Sam Patten Lobbyist linked to Paul Manafort Failing to register to work as an agent of a foreign power Pleaded guilty Aug. 31, 2018
Paul Manafort Former campaign chairman Tax and bank fraud, false statements, being an unregistered agent of a foreign principal, obstruction of justice Convicted of financial fraud Aug. 21, 2018

Michael D. Cohen Mr. Trump’s former lawyer Tax evasion, bank fraud, campaign finance violations Pleaded guilty Aug. 21, 2018

Alex van der Zwaan Lawyer who worked with Mr. Manafort and Mr. Gates Lying to investigators about conversations with Mr. Gates (pleaded guilty Feb. 20, 2018) Sentenced to 30 days in prison April 3, 2018

Rick Gates Former campaign adviser Financial fraud and lying to the F.B.I. Pleaded guilty Feb. 23, 2018

Richard Pinedo California man who sold bank accounts online, Identity fraud, Pleaded guilty Feb. 12, 2018

Michael T. Flynn Former national security adviser, Lying to the F.B.I. about conversations with the Russian ambassador Pleaded guilty Dec. 1, 2017

Thirteen Russian nationals and three related companies, Conspiracy to defraud the U.S., conspiracy to commit bank fraud, identity theft

Konstantin V. Kilimnik Russian Army-trained linguist and associate of Mr. Manafort, Obstruction of justice

Twelve Russian intelligence officers Conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, identity theft, conspiracy to launder money



That is not my definition of "nothing"

And not one having anything to do with the election or Trump. Your wet dream is over, there will never be a charge, no impeachment & you'll be dealing with him through 2024.

In liberal bizaro world the left does not wrong, always truthy, not one iota corruption. Keep drinking the Koo Aid. Left, right, the feathers are still on the same bird

Originally Posted by wombat2wombat

In liberal bizaro world the left does not wrong, always truthy, not one iota corruption. Keep drinking the Koo Aid. Left, right, the feathers are still on the same bird

Agree. Skepticism is healthy. Doesn’t matter who is in office they prolly gonna lie to you.

That said I completely misjudged a potential investment into the tinfoil hat industry with this political cycle. Too late now, but had invested in 2015....

Apparently, the address's and names had several misspellings.... I'd suspect Grant, but I'm betting he'd build a pretty damn good bomb

LOL LOL that’s some funny $hit. I’m glad some of you still have a sense of humor.

Ok so back to the subject at hand trying to look into the mind of a Liberial loon
Why would a Trump supporter or Republican send a bomb? Last time I checked We are winning, Republicans are not out on the streets protesting or Marching or Casting Spells on the steps of the supreme court. We are not out taking DNA tests to prove our Fake heritage. We are NOT un hinged or upset. We are sitting back poping pop corn watching Liberial DemocRATS melt down and destroy them selfs. We are not out shooting up Republican softball games with high powerd rifles. We are not Tweeting a $hit storm about the latest fake outrage YOU GUYS are. This has Liberial loon written all over it. Same as Swasticas sprayed painted on Churches and Fake Muslim attack’s after TRUMP won, you guys are so predictable (thank god)

That said I still want the identity of the fake bomber to be revield hurry up FBI

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

Deep state, duh.

Sorry Grant, but that's funny right there. I know for a fact if Grant had anything to do with them, they would work, would have had carbon fiber, batteries, and big bling.

Originally Posted by wombat2wombat

Hand delivered, to secure residences with security details & cameras. Derp.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/23/n...bomb-home.html

Hand delivered. Derp back at ya.

[QUOTE=plhorn;1981883]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/23/n...bomb-home.html

Hand delivered. Derp back at ya.[/QUOTE

No, you're derping again. I've clearly stated the Soros was hand delivered. To a residence with full time security detail. With cameras everywhere. A son with an oped ready to go hours later. But no description of the delivery guy, nothing on camera. The others bombs I stated specifically they were mailed. Try to keep up. Doesn't it get tiring being wrong over & over again?

Originally Posted by wombat2wombat

Doesn't it get tiring being wrong over & over again?

Ha! You must not be married!

the myth of the “moderate” voter

https://www.vox.com/2014/7/8/5878293...-word-moderate

Originally Posted by shawndoggy

Ha! You must not be married!

Touche

Yeah, Delta is kicking back poping popcorn, lol. He is watching liberal comedians blister his beliefs while his head explodes. Your boy the conman IS tweeting a Chit storm, non-stop. Please unveil your investigation and show all the tweets from "YOU GUYS". All of them.

Uh.... You realize they have CAUGHT 400,000 people at the border so far this year.

Delta, 400K is a low. The whole immigration scrum is a ploy the conman is using to rile you up and its working on the least educated best. https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/Apprehensions%20by%20USBorderPatrol%202005%20to%20 2010.pdf[/url]

People who are tearing the country apart are democrats. I can not watch a single show without some leftist going on a diatribe about Republicans and fly over people. I see it with my own eyes and hear it with my own ears. You are on here nearly every day with some Trump conspiracy. Even when I left for a while, I read at least 3 times a week. You were on here with your nonsense. I have seen the riots by leftist and have seen their destruction. Hell my wife worked them. I have heard your democrat leaders speeches about open borders and Soro's billions of dollars given to leftist groups to lobby for such things. You are the enemy.

So you assign zero blame to your conman who is at a different rally every night not being presidential. He said regarding the republican that attacked and body slammed the reporter, "He is my kinda guy". Thats not provoking violence? The conman is incapable of being a unifier and incapable of admitting mistake. Sad.
The election was 2016, yet he has his idiot followers shouting "Lock her up" night after night. His schtick never gets old for the simple minded. Clinton running for anything? Lock her up for what? the unsecure email server? While trump continues to use his easily hacked iPhone daily.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/u...-security.html
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile...ed-cell-phone/
https://thinkprogress.org/donald-tru...-9588431ca568/
Shouldn't we be Locking Him Up too?
[QUOTE] [/You democrats say you don't want open borders. You just don't want the country to refuse anyone. F off with that stupid a$$ logic. It is the same dang thing. You are the enemy.QUOTE]
Most democrats just want some sort of reasonable immigration reform, only the nuts over on the edge are open borders. I prefer to work between the 20 yard lines. The rest are nuts. Is Trump telling you we are the enemy? Where do you get that idea? How does it play out in the long game? If USA does not win, its a lose/ lose.

Again just like a good little democrat you are, you ignore the words. Illegals counted in the census is designed to give power to the democrats. PERIOD! You will sell the country to the highest bidder for votes. That is why you are the enemy. IF you are illegal, you should not qualify for any funding period! The state that harbors them should have their funds cut. period.

Counting illegals in a census is DESIGNED to distribute representation and $$ to states accurately. It is not a DEEP STATE plan to have voters for the 2040 election. If you think that your tin foil hat is a size too small. The only one "selling the country" is trump, and he is taking the payments at trump intl. Again, not the enemy, that is just what the divider in chief is pushing down your throat every night. Again, where does that rhetoric end? It is the state that gets funding, and everyone who lives here makes the amount due the state larger. The illegals will still be here...but the $$ wont. Your idea is not fiscally prudent.

In 18 years, they will be democrat voters. How do you think in the last 20 years California went from a Republican state to a +3 million vote for democrats? Illegal immigration is how. Illegals children are now voting democrat. Those children should have never have been in the state. It is a loop hole that needs to be stopped.

There are plenty of reasons CA has trended democrat over the decades. If the republicans need more voters perhaps they should support policy that attracts voters. If you offer people what they want, they will vote for you. A lot like trump grabbed middle America, told them he was for the forgotten middle class guy. He likes his voters like his women, once he gets what he wants, to the curb biotch. Then its tax cuts for the rich and end healthcare for middle class. We have 3 million undocumented in CA, Im in favor of doing something permanent for those that have been here a lifetime. Same with those that meet DACA like requirements. Not open borders not a wall. No MS13....

Why is it only black votes that are being suppressed? Why is it white people seem to be able to make it through this so called rigged system? Ever ask yourself that? Because your democratness sees race in all things. It has nothing to do with race. It is the rules. All people have to abide by them. Matter of fact, most of these rules impact country people more because they have a much harder time traveling. As far as name matching. It should be an exact match. Like I said, I am on the ballot twice. Once with my proper name and once with my abbreviation. If I wanted to be illegal, I can no problem vote twice.

Because the republicans that took control of the house and senate do not want to suppress the white vote. The system is not rigged against white voters. Yes, its the rules, rules created by republicans in house/senate. Repubs are launching precision strikes that miss whites (they have addresses) and hits people of color. You realize no one, no company, no country not even the IRS uses "EXACT MATCH" because its nearly impossible to make an exact match down to the period. It is a rigged game and if you choose to keep your blinders on, continue lying to yourself. Its the same thing they did with all the district gerrymandering to improve their election chances. Look at how they re-drew any of the districts and its easy to see its not geographic, its demographic. Look at all the lawsuits they are losing on gerrymandering and voter suppression. Why dont democrats get sued for suppression?

Anymore angry democrats blow anyone up today? Damn loons.

[QUOTE=95sn;1981892]Yeah, Delta is kicking back poping popcorn, lol. He is watching liberal comedians blister his beliefs while his head explodes. Your boy the conman IS tweeting a Chit storm, non-stop. Please unveil your investigation and show all the tweets from "YOU GUYS". All of them.




Delta, 400K is a low. The whole immigration scrum is a ploy the conman is using to rile you up and its working on the least educated best. https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/Apprehensions%20by%20USBorderPatrol%202005%20to%20 2010.pdf[/url]


So you assign zero blame to your conman who is at a different rally every night not being presidential. He said regarding the republican that attacked and body slammed the reporter, "He is my kinda guy". Thats not provoking violence? The conman is incapable of being a unifier and incapable of admitting mistake. Sad.
The election was 2016, yet he has his idiot followers shouting "Lock her up" night after night. His schtick never gets old for the simple minded. Clinton running for anything? Lock her up for what? the unsecure email server? While trump continues to use his easily hacked iPhone daily.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/u...-security.html
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile...ed-cell-phone/
https://thinkprogress.org/donald-tru...-9588431ca568/
Shouldn't we be Locking Him Up too?

[/You democrats say you don't want open borders. You just don't want the country to refuse anyone. F off with that stupid a$$ logic. It is the same dang thing. You are the enemy.QUOTE]
Most democrats just want some sort of reasonable immigration reform, only the nuts over on the edge are open borders. I prefer to work between the 20 yard lines. The rest are nuts. Is Trump telling you we are the enemy? Where do you get that idea? How does it play out in the long game? If USA does not win, its a lose/ lose.



Counting illegals in a census is DESIGNED to distribute representation and $$ to states accurately. It is not a DEEP STATE plan to have voters for the 2040 election. If you think that your tin foil hat is a size too small. The only one "selling the country" is trump, and he is taking the payments at trump intl. Again, not the enemy, that is just what the divider in chief is pushing down your throat every night. Again, where does that rhetoric end? It is the state that gets funding, and everyone who lives here makes the amount due the state larger. The illegals will still be here...but the $$ wont. Your idea is not fiscally prudent.

There are plenty of reasons CA has trended democrat over the decades. If the republicans need more voters perhaps they should support policy that attracts voters. If you offer people what they want, they will vote for you. A lot like trump grabbed middle America, told them he was for the forgotten middle class guy. He likes his voters like his women, once he gets what he wants, to the curb biotch. Then its tax cuts for the rich and end healthcare for middle class. We have 3 million undocumented in CA, Im in favor of doing something permanent for those that have been here a lifetime. Same with those that meet DACA like requirements. Not open borders not a wall. No MS13....


Because the republicans that took control of the house and senate do not want to suppress the white vote. The system is not rigged against white voters. Yes, its the rules, rules created by republicans in house/senate. Repubs are launching precision strikes that miss whites (they have addresses) and hits people of color. You realize no one, no company, no country not even the IRS uses "EXACT MATCH" because its nearly impossible to make an exact match down to the period. It is a rigged game and if you choose to keep your blinders on, continue lying to yourself. Its the same thing they did with all the district gerrymandering to improve their election chances. Look at how they re-drew any of the districts and its easy to see its not geographic, its demographic. Look at all the lawsuits they are losing on gerrymandering and voter suppression. Why dont democrats get sued for suppression?

Anymore angry democrats blow anyone up today? Damn loons.

Sorry, I don't pay a cable bill for tweets. Don't look at Twitter ever. You only go to twitter to find something.

400k is the amount CAUGHT, not the actual who crossed. There is the least educated talk again. That is why you are the enemy.

Why is Trump my guy. I didn't vote for him until it was hillary and him and my vote doesn't count anyway because all your illegals and their kids have changed the voting landscape in California forever. If illegal immigration is a ploy, why is California making this a sancturary state and why does the city of San Fran allow illegals to vote in city elections?

Funny you say Trump is getting rich when his wealth is actually down since becoming president. Still wanting to know how Sanders, Obama, and Clintons are now multi-millionaries from a $250,000 a year job? Who is getting rich? Your democrat buddies piled in 1 billion dollars to elect a few people to a few $200,000 a year jobs? Who is trying to get rich off this?

So if I tell you that I hate democrats (and I do) and I agree people should body slam a idiot press person who is violating my civil rights, that is going to cause you to go out and shoot up congress or set fires to cities and ambush cops? That is why you are the enemy. Your people are unhinged. I have not listened to one single speech from Trump since he has been elected. You on the other hand seem to love to seek out his words to fuel your outrage. I didn't listen to Obama either. All I know is Trump promised certain policy actions and he is completing them. I will take that all day. You liberals can't stand it because you finally have someone to stand up to you bullies and tell you that you are full of Sh$T and you can not stand it. Only you guys can tell everyone else how they are supposed to feel and how they are supposed to act as you sell the country down the drain. That is why you are enemy.

California changed voting demographic based on illegal immigration period. I am not willing to tell illegals and their citizen children that I am willing to open the border for the rest of their family for votes like you democrats have done. I will not condone selling out America for that like you democrats do. You are going to still tell me that it was other policies because we all know that $15 minimum wage is a big seller to the middle class. You know who it is a big seller to? Illegals and the uneducated that tends to go hand and hand with illegal immigration. I am sure everyone just loves high taxes of the state because that is a very popular message. How about the carbon tax message. Nothing like indirect taxes of all power users to give to Brown's wealthy land owner buddies for setting on Billions of dollars of property. I am sure that is the message that makes a dent.

How about this doozy. We need to raise the gas taxes and auto fees because we more drivers. You guys are double idiots. First if you have more drivers, then you are collecting more taxes already. Second, you think that 3 million people are not putting artificial pressure on the middle class for housing, roads, schools, medical, lowering wages for the unskilled workers, food cost, and water usage? You mean that message?

You finally admitted it. counting illegals is designed to distribute representation (to democrat states). It is not in 2040. They are not going to wait a 1/4 century to adjust congressmen. California should not get one red cent extra for making laws the subvert national law regarding immigration.

Uh. Ronald Reagan already did the amnesty thing. It did not stop the flow, it made it worse. Rewarding illegals in any way with citizen ship or rights and representation in any way makes it defacto open border.

Then why are white people able to do the exact match? Why is it you liberals always think black people can not follow the rules? Why is it every time you see a black activist group, there is usually some white liberal as the head of the group?

Not sure if a democrat has blown anyone up today. The fake bombs they delivered to themselves had no chance of exploding. However lost in the shuffle is the voter purge in Chicago of all these dead people who have been voting in the last few elections after their death.

Also, I don't believe you understand how classified data handling works. She was running classified information purposely through a private server that was not classified. You and me would be in jail. Trump tweeting from a Iphone is not a security issue. Many government institutions have them integrated into their mail servers. Don't know if they run classified information through them, but they are integrated for regular mail traffic.

caught. We are at lows to everyone except Trump.
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFi...rehensions.jpg

Sanctuary states, cities everywhere. They now allow illegals to vote in School elections. So they have a say in what happens where their kids go to school. Not in national elections. Feel better?

Where do you get your knowledge of trumps finances, im interested. Do you have tax returns or just making stuff up? Obama, not that rich, but really any ex president gonna make bank writing books and lectures circuit. Clintons are dirty, like you have to ask. Trump is the biggest cheat of them all, there are reasons he is the only one in what 40 years to not release tax return...then say he would...and doesn't.

Promises? Like the BETTER healthcare he promised? The wall Mexico was going to pay for? The tax break for the rich? Denying climate change? Bringing back asbestos and eliminating pre-existing conditions for insurers? No, those things you may say or do to democrats does not upset me. Its when the POTUS does/says those things is where I find issue. His job is to unite people not divide the country. He is failing miserably.

Im voting yes on 6, repeal the gas tax. Told you we are not your enemy.
I said representation is part of the census everytime I spoke on it. In fact, said "Its super important", scroll up and look. Its important for ALL states.
There are "national laws" on marijuana too, yet 36 states disagree. The National law is just lagging more progressive states. We are a nation in flux, if we stop improving and evolving its not good.
Who said amnesty? And the flow is at 1975 levels now. Why all the attention? Trump needs to create enemies he can strike down to win your vote. Sshhh...its a ploy to fool the uninformed.
White people that are already registered to vote do not need to EXACT match. They are already in. No one can follow the rules (read roadblock) that the republican Sec of State has put out. You would not exact match...and even if you did, they can say your signature looks different...in the trash. Usually when I see a black activist group its jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. Or is that just when they steal the limelight.

Thank you for the explanation on Clintons email scandal. Why do you not care trump is using a hacked iPhone the Russians and Chinese are listening in. Not just tweeting. His security people are tired of telling him to use the Gov. phone. He likes his iPhone. So they released the info to the press.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Sanctuary states, cities everywhere. They now allow illegals to vote in School elections. So they have a say in what happens where their kids go to school. Not in national elections. Feel better?

Where do you get your knowledge of trumps finances, im interested. Do you have tax returns or just making stuff up? Obama, not that rich, but really any ex president gonna make bank writing books and lectures circuit. Clintons are dirty, like you have to ask. Trump is the biggest cheat of them all, there are reasons he is the only one in what 40 years to not release tax return...then say he would...and doesn't.

Promises? Like the BETTER healthcare he promised? The wall Mexico was going to pay for? The tax break for the rich? Denying climate change? Bringing back asbestos and eliminating pre-existing conditions for insurers? No, those things you may say or do to democrats does not upset me. Its when the POTUS does/says those things is where I find issue. His job is to unite people not divide the country. He is failing miserably.

Im voting yes on 6, repeal the gas tax. Told you we are not your enemy.
I said representation is part of the census everytime I spoke on it. In fact, said "Its super important", scroll up and look. Its important for ALL states.
There are "national laws" on marijuana too, yet 36 states disagree. The National law is just lagging more progressive states. We are a nation in flux, if we stop improving and evolving its not good.
Who said amnesty? And the flow is at 1975 levels now. Why all the attention? Trump needs to create enemies he can strike down to win your vote. Sshhh...its a ploy to fool the uninformed.
White people that are already registered to vote do not need to EXACT match. They are already in. No one can follow the rules (read roadblock) that the republican Sec of State has put out. You would not exact match...and even if you did, they can say your signature looks different...in the trash. Usually when I see a black activist group its jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. Or is that just when they steal the limelight.

Thank you for the explanation on Clintons email scandal. Why do you not care trump is using a hacked iPhone the Russians and Chinese are listening in. Not just tweeting. His security people are tired of telling him to use the Gov. phone. He likes his iPhone. So they released the info to the press.

I though you dems were not trying to let illegals vote. I have not seen one thing your democrat buddies are doing that is stopping any of that. Only thing I see is laws that hide them, laws that let them vote, laws that don't turn over illegal criminals to ICE after they went to jail even. This is on you bud. The rest of the country knows what the law is and what it should be. Somehow, democrat states believe otherwise. It is almost like they are globalists or something?

I don't care about Trumps taxes. He is also the first businessman to be president. Did you look at Obama or Clinton's tax returns or are you just repeating fake outrage as usual? It has been reported in the news about Trumps wealth being less. Read a paper.

It is not the presidents job to unite anyone. You guys hated the hell out of Reagan and Bush. You certainly hate the hell out of Trump. As far as I am concerned he can keep ramming it up your A$$. He can be the nicest guy in the world and you still would not like him so I really don't care if you feel he should be a uniter. Trump was aligned with democrats and actually worked well with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Now that he is a Republican, he is a racist to you people. Your democrats did not vote at all for Kavanaugh. Were never planning on it even though the Republicans voted overwhelmingly for liberal SC Justices. There is no making you happy because the only thing makes you happy is sell out America.

We will never agree on your climate change bull sh$t. First it was man made global warming but you could not monitize that (well except in California). Now it is climate change. Well no sh$t. The climate always changes. Water is wet. If you look at the historic ice samples we are actually 4 degrees lower than the typical cycles just before rolling over into ice ages so you better enjoy the heat because man kind nearly died out during the mini ice age a little over 1000 years ago. So no. We will never agree to sell out to your UN buddies for your fear mongering.

There is no such thing as better healthcare. We already have the best. What people what is access to private healthcare. Everyone already has access to county hospitals that treat based on an income curve. Only issue there is illegals clog the system so poor Americans are pushed out and/or the hospitals close. 3 million illegals get their healthcare where?

You talk about progressive states. I call them regressive states. Many of these laws were in place because society already fought many of these fights. Now with the internationalist wing in power of the democrat party, we are having to fight this all over again. Back in the day 71% of californias voted to not give any benefits to illegals. That was over thrown by California liberal activist judges.

Historically I vote no on every tax and almost every measure because for one I believe the elected officials should debate and vote on them. The ballet initiatives are about the quick punch of what sounds good like prop 47 that makes almost everything a ticket offense. At this point, I am only about giving californians what they want. I started last election and voted to raise the rates on the bridges (first time I ever voted for it). This year, I am starting to vote only to troll california. I am voting to raise every tax and every regulation that they put on the ballet. If I read the measure I it looks like something I should not vote for, I am doing the opposite.

I mean heck, my daughters old middle school can not even use he and she/ boy and girl anymore when addressing the kids. I think that should be all over the state and why not the country. You have to make over 108,000 a year in order to not be considered poor. I want to get that to $150,000 by the next decade. I am almost priced out of the state myself and I have a really good job. If I can last another 10 years it will be a miracle. After that, I am taking my retirement money an hitting the road. Taxes, regulation and minimum wage be darned. I got one of those unsolicited texts today about dialysis prop 8 or something telling me not to vote for it. I think I am now. Why not. It is on the ballot from californians and someone thought enough to get access to the public phone system to send me a text so it is getting my support. I am probably going to pull the lever to Newsome because I want this thing to go down hard and fast.

also, your Trump and illegal thing is not just a ploy. I and other conservatives have been talking about it for 30 years. It is not new. Maybe new to you, but like you said there are 3 million in this state alone (documented) and in 2003 they were majority of the jails for violent crime and cost the state over 15 billion a year in taxes to support them. Now I am sure it is over $50 billion a year. Teachers love them because it means more jobs for them. The rest of us middle class gets to have more taxes put on us to pay for them. Don't worry. You have my support. You are no longer my enemy. I am giving you everything you want then am slowly going to back away and laugh my fanny off.

It’s apparent that the tribalism movement is strong with the masses. Funny how in a few years feel/content changes.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

He is also the first businessman to be president.

Factually not true. Warring Harding, George Bush Jr and Sr. (oilmen), Jimmy Carter...

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

It has been reported in the news about Trumps wealth being less. Read a paper.

Since he hasn't released his tax returns that is also factually false because other than his word, which is worth less than nothing, we have no idea what his wealth is.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

We will never agree on your climate change bull sh$t.

Good to understand you don't believe in basic science. Hope you get cancer and try to pray it away.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

There is no such thing as better healthcare. We already have the best.

Have you ever lived anywhere else than the US? The healthcare here BLOWS. I got pneumonia in France: Saw a Dr 15 minutes after I called him. He diagnosed me, gave me a prescription in 10 minutes. I walked to the pharmacy where I paid 5 dollars for 4 different meds and was on my way in less than 5 minutes. They apologized to me that normally the meds shouldn't cost that much.

here's the list of countries that are better than us in terms of just infant mortality:
SERBIA 5.80 2017 EST.
BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA 5.50 2017 EST.
FAROE ISLANDS 5.40 2017 EST.
NEW CALEDONIA 5.20 2017 EST.
LATVIA 5.20 2017 EST.
SLOVAKIA 5.10 2017 EST.
HUNGARY 4.90 2017 EST.
FRENCH POLYNESIA 4.60 2017 EST.
GREECE 4.60 2017 EST.
CANADA 4.50 2017 EST.
CUBA 4.40 2017 EST.
POLAND 4.40 2017 EST.
NEW ZEALAND 4.40 2017 EST.
AUSTRALIA 4.30 2017 EST.
UNITED KINGDOM 4.30 2017 EST.
WALLIS AND FUTUNA 4.30 2017 EST.
TAIWAN 4.30 2017 EST.
SAN MARINO 4.30 2017 EST.
PORTUGAL 4.30 2017 EST.
LIECHTENSTEIN 4.20 2017 EST.
DENMARK 4.00 2017 EST.
EUROPEAN UNION 4.00 2016 EST.
ISLE OF MAN 4.00 2017 EST.
SLOVENIA 3.90 2017 EST.
JERSEY 3.80 2017 EST.
ESTONIA 3.80 2017 EST.
LITHUANIA 3.80 2017 EST.
IRELAND 3.60 2017 EST.
ANDORRA 3.60 2017 EST.
BELARUS 3.60 2017 EST.
NETHERLANDS 3.60 2017 EST.
SWITZERLAND 3.60 2017 EST.
MALTA 3.50 2017 EST.
ISRAEL 3.40 2017 EST.
GERMANY 3.40 2017 EST.
GUERNSEY 3.40 2017 EST.
BELGIUM 3.40 2017 EST.
AUSTRIA 3.40 2017 EST.
LUXEMBOURG 3.40 2017 EST.
ITALY 3.30 2017 EST.
ANGUILLA 3.30 2017 EST.
SPAIN 3.30 2017 EST.
FRANCE 3.20 2017 EST.
MACAU 3.10 2017 EST.
KOREA, SOUTH 3.00 2017 EST.
HONG KONG 2.70 2017 EST.
CZECHIA 2.60 2017 EST.
SWEDEN 2.60 2017 EST.
BERMUDA 2.50 2017 EST.
FINLAND 2.50 2017 EST.
NORWAY 2.50 2017 EST.
SINGAPORE 2.40 2017 EST.
ICELAND 2.10 2017 EST.
JAPAN 2.00 2017 EST.
MONACO 1.80 2017 EST.


But idiots like you keep saying "We're number 1!, we can't possibly improve the system"

Keep those blinders on.

Originally Posted by DeltaHoosier

We will never agree on your climate change bull sh$t.

Let's get back to this.
Let's say for a minute that you are right and all the scientist in the world are wrong. If we follow the scientist advice, it costs us some money in the short term, we get to breathe cleaner air, we develop new industries in electric vehicles and solar panels for no reason.

Now if all the scientist in the world are right and you are wrong and we do nothing. We are all F'd.

I say play the risk reward game and go with the scientist just in case.