V-drive under $20k?
Looking to upgrade from my '86 2001 and looking to spend under $20k. I've been looking at some Super Sports, a friend has suggested an older x star. Any thoughts as far as better wake, better for surfing, etc?
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The 205v/early stars are a great wake and great all around boats. Can't speak for the surf wake but the wakeboard wake is awesome. Watch the vinyl on that early 00' years vintage. The original vinyl was crap and you'll get 2-3k deep on new vinyl. Just fyi your gonna be hard to find one sub 20 though. Old stars are like gold
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sanger's arent a bad choice in that price range... earlier this year a guy by me got a 2006 supra 20v for 16500
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Tough to find nice V-drive for under 20K, like William said. Kind of like Big Foot, King Kong and El Chupacabra. They are out there but the sightings are rare!!!
You find the well used/ beat up ones for sub 20K and like said above you can turn those into a money pit quick. Your going to have to hit the early models..thats mid to late 90's for most manufacturers. |
But boarder, as we all know that was the "Big Foot" sightings of deals. That was beyond a steal...once in a lifetime deal. Thats surely not the norm!
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I wouldn't be in that boat for 18.5. It needs an interior... 17-17.5 though...
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Hey ima keep dreaming someone else on that overpriced lake has a 2003-2006 SANTE they have to get rid of b/c they want a pontoon ... and put it up for 14k.
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Looks like your in FL if so probably can't help unless you are willing to ship. There are usually some really nice Sanger V210's that pop up on craigslist and boattader out here on the West coast. Best bang for the buck if your looking for a quality used v-drive in that price range. Oh and disclaimer... I own one.
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As for sub 20k boats, the 205v will probably be your best bet. The 205v is the same hull as the x-star, so even if you find one of those without the tower/ballast system you can always add those on later. You can definitely get into an older MC Maristar which is a V-drive. Those can be had for mid teens if you find the right boat. |
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I know but have to pick alil bit
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I own a '99 205v (same hull as Xstar) and it has a killer boarding wake. Surf wake is ok, it's high enough and plenty of push, but the pocket isn't very long. For around $20k, you will not find a better wake for boarding. You may have to travel to get one, but IMO it would be worth it.
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FWIW / Pricing sake
We sold our 1995' Supersport Nautique last year 650 hours Tower - Board Racks - Mirror 6 Tower speakers - 2 - 12" subs - 2 amps - 2 batteries New interior Dual axle trailer 2200 lbs ballast plumbed in (900 rear - 800 ski locker - 500 bow) 2 props (one specific for lots of ballast) exterior pretty perfect shape ... sold it for $16,000 The Boat - https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n..._4323424_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n..._4772018_n.jpg Wakeboard wake (very temperamental from left/right weight) https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...942_2665_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...912_3414_n.jpg Surfing wave - https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...432_9897_n.jpg |
Dang nick i'll take that boat for 16k every day. dont find many that pop up around here like that.
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That boat is great and a great deal at his original asking price of 17.5... He had it for sale for a decent amnt of time if memory serves me well.
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Of course no one wanted to pay 20k for it so fall came around and we dropped the price accordingly... Had a guy coming to pay $17,000 but my brother didn't want to be boat-less so he bought it off me for $16,000.... I knocked another $1,000 off for him since I can still use it when I go back "home". We paid 17k for it like 6 years before (bone stock) but it only had 300 hours. If you can find a supersport, go for it, we LOVED everything about the boat (for the price). Just sort of narrow (makes it sensitive to weight distribution) ... other than that, awesome boat. |
how tall are you for wake size comparison?
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I am 6' / 6'1"
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I picked up my original owner 2002 Centurion Elite V for 12k, so deals are definitely out there.
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That's a smokin price on that Super Sport with those hours and how it's equiped.
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i check craigslist in 4 cities at least once a day looking for deals like that.
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A pic of the wake behind my '99 205v:
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And the surf wave: for reference, the rider in both pics (my brother) is 6'4".
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17,500 for a 00 x-star. Needs some interior, but still a hell of a deal.
http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/...ad.php?t=52923 |
Hell of a deal? Boat needs 1500-2500 to have the interior redone and who knows what else? It looks like it was treated poorly. You can grab 2000 X's for 20-23... all day
Edit: not as many on OI as I remember, but fall/winter there were a few... |
I agree not a good deal for what looks like a neglected boat. I'd say a solid 2500 in upholstery and like delta said who knows what else. Thing looks rough and not just the seats. Look up into the bow.
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I am also realizing - though I do not agree, that people are attempting to market their boats at a 5-8000 premium due to summer being here. I strongly believe that the winter market is where the prices should be at - 19-22 for a decent 2000 xstar or super air etc... Onlyinboards looks heavily inflated right now and I don't agree...
Of course - at this stage in the game, I am a tire kicker but I feel I have a strong grasp of what is worth what |
Sure it needs interior and a good cleaning... but if you want to get into a v-drive cheap, that's the way to do it. Sometimes people don't mind the elbow grease and a little work when you can get into something cheaper and save a little money. I know I don't mind...
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With a brand new interior, a good cleaning and assuming the mechanicals are good, then I would say that's a $25k boat in this market. IMO, a fair deal. Not the steal of the century, but it's fair.
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I looked for boats for the past 2 years. I honestly see no difference in Summer and Winter pricing. People think (as I did) that you gotta "snag a deal in the offseason". Well, everyone who is looking for a wakeboat is thinking that, and everyone who is selling one is waiting for summer. So, you end up with a ton of buyers (demand) and a shortage of sellers (supply). You do the math. I've seen quote a few deals pop up lately (more than winter). Example - Cherry 2003 v210 in San Jose for 19,500.
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Bought this 1999 SAN in 2012 for $17,000. There are deals out there, just gotta find em...
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look at teamtalk ... there is an Xstar on there for 17500... you're gonna need to redo the vinyl but other than that He wants to sell before june so you may be able to get him down on that price
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Like I said, I bought an 02 Elite-V Storm Series for 12k from the original owner a few weeks ago. Deals are out there.
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Asking price is one thing...
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Just picked up a 2001 Launch SSV for $20,500 last month. It needed some work but engines runs well with 700 hours on it.
Was having second thoughts but now comfortable with my purchase after reading a little. Thoughts? |
Bank repos don't count as good deals. Lol
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Meant to say short sale, which he coordinated with his friend.
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I'm in the works of getting a '99 Malibu sunsetter VLX right now. 450ish hours, tower, and racks (no built in ballast). The interior has a few nicks/scratches here and there, but that's nothing that my dogs wouldn't end up doing... The price was $19,995. The steering cable was messed up, but they're fixing that for me and installing perfect pass (which I'm paying for separate). V-Drives under 20k do exist, but like someone said earlier, they're hard to find. Usually someone knew someone who heard from someone else that so-and-so got a good deal on one... blah blah... my deal is happening now, right at the start of the season. If you keep looking hard, you just might find one!
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8257/8...778e88ae_b.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8133/8...3350c5e6_b.jpg |
PS... what were they thinking when they put that table behind the driver's seat? ^^^^^^^^^
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Lunch!
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I'm not expecting this boat (and the link it's attached to) to last long.
http://austin.craigslist.org/boa/3801225817.html |
That boat is super clean. No way you are making that one for 17.5K look like that for 2 grand. Just shows that isn't a good deal at 17.5K.
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LOL @ the "$4000 sound system."
Translation: "I was majorly ripped off at Best Buy and expect you to cover my stupidity on a $ for $ basis." |
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I picked this up for 16,500 earlier this year: http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps9224c80a.jpg http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps9d3059a9.jpg |
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Oh.... and Mike, please tell me you are joking.
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Scored a 96 Super Sport with tower and 400 hours for 9500 2 summers ago, the guy really had no idea what it was worth and i wasn't going to tell him otherwise haha. I was on CL and onlyinboard 24/7 and I was the first person that replied to the ad, With close to 1800lbs and 4 or 5 people its a very legit wake.
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I saw a 2004 Centurion Avalanche on Seattle Craigslist for 23,500 with only 500 hours it, on Sunday. I don't know how to attatch a link, but do a search on Seattle CL and it will come up if it's still available.
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http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/boa/3811411740.html
here's a link, not sure if it will work, but it's still up! |
Looks like a 2002 Elite V for 17k http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/boa/3820695252.html
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On the Portland OR craigslist, there's been a late 90's Maxum V-Drive that has a tower, perfect pass, hard wired ballast system and somewhere in that 500 hour range that's had a $14,500 asking price for months...
I even had some friends that went to look at it. It didn't have the original tower (so had a few extra mounting holes?) and it only had a single axle trailer. But for the money, it seemed pretty nice. I didn't even know Maxum made a tournament style v-drive. It's listing has expired, so I don't have a link for ya'all. |
Here's another one that I've been seeing for a long time out of SW Washington. 1990 Sanger v-drive with tower, 600 hours for $14k.
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/boa/3814502084.html http://images.craigslist.org/3E83Gf3...a0c30a1d9b.jpg |
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Maxum made that boat for just 2 or 3 years. I forget what they called it but it was the same as the Bayliner(both US Marine). The Bayliners were called Ski Challenger(DD) and Wake Challenger(V Drive). There was a 20 and a 22. Direct drive was a 21. Made in 97 and 98 for sure. Possible 96 also, but for sure 98 was the last year of production. I owned the 97 Ski Challenger. Bought it brand new and had nothing but problems. Took a year to sort out all the issues and a winter back at the factory. It put out a good wake and I have heard the V drives to also. But they are super cheaply made. Plenty of wood in the boat too. I wouldn't own another one unless it was cheap.
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First ugly Sanger I've seen....
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I have an elite v and the wake is fine. I've obviously been behind boats with better wakes, but it gets the job done. It's been a great boat. Plenty of interior space.
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Nate, the SS hull is anything but rampy. It's a massive wall that boots you. As far as surfing it goes, you probably just need to figure out how to weight it properly plus perfect pass is a must for surfing with that hull.
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Meant to say SS wake.
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I think the Elite V has the same hull as a Avalanche, but I could be wrong. My Avy puts out a excellent surf wave and a ok wakeboard wake (2004)
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21v
How come nobody is talking tige' 21V? They can be obtained for right at 20k.
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