Sea Ray...selling out
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Or rather Brunswick group is selling Sea Ray.....
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Maybe we should chip in and buy SeaRay and make some decent inboards...
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Interesting that the article mentions the increased popularity of outboards but not the increased popularity of true inboards. Just as an armchair analyst, looking back at the boats I saw in the 90's vs what I see today, all the people who used to own 24' stern drive deck boats are now driving around 24' v-drives. But either way I had no idea Sea Ray was doing so poorly.
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I didn't either. We have a big cruiser and keep it in about a 500 boat marina. Probably half the boats in there are Sea Ray's, including ours. But most are used so I agree there biggest competition is probably their used boats. They hold up better than anything else out there and the used values are strong. If your buying a used cruiser there is no better option than a Sea Ray.
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Very interesting article. The boating industry as a whole is clearly WAY down based on the numbers quoted in that article. One thing has changed - New boat prices have skyrocketed. The industry is pricing itself out of existence. When any product is selling slowly, increasing the price is about the last thing you want to do yet that is what the entire industry is doing.
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In terms of new boat production, right now total stern drive boat production is only about 11,000 annual for all brands, down from almost 80,000 in 2000, and as a segment stern drive continues to shrink as the rest of the recreational marine market grows. At one time I called on Sea Ray at three different manufacturing plants. All are shuttered but one now. I think you guys would be surprised to know there were only 8900 v-drive and direct-drive tow boats built in 2016 though.
The growth segment right now is pontoon, which is almost exclusively outboard.There were about 50,000 built in 2016 and that market is still growing, fueled by the luxury pontoon segment. When you lump pontoon, aluminum fishing boats, bass boats and saltwater fishing boats together, all outboard, it is easy to see that stern-drive is not a very big portion of the total market. Phil Kicker |
This quote from the article is weird. According to it Sea Ray sells boats for $150 each. (i.e. 380,000/2500).
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Typo. They left out a zero. But if you find an L65 Fly for that amount let me know!
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Yamaha also did some damage to Sea Ray in the 18-24 market.
When those jet boats first came out, everyone called them junk. But they appealed to a lot of fist boat buyers. Had some nice features and paying the Sea Ray price. As said above, OB and Pontoons. |
The options for pontoon is endless. Although, they are still poorly assembled and the materials are terrible. you can go hog wild building on. My neighbors is uber nice. quiet as a church mouse and at 25 plus feet long, (try-tune) cranks out 55 mph. all the cost is in the motor. With new 300's coming on these, its obvious the market is growing
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I know if I am buying a non inboard it will be a pontoon. Room, Speed, Ride Quality all trump an I/O.
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^^all day. Tritoons are so nice. Ugly maybe, but so practical.
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Pontoons. The min-van of the boating world.
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Pontoon ride quality trump a V-hull boat.... Thats a joke right?
If its not grab your pontoon and come spend a day behind my 47 footer on the river and then tell me a pontoon cuts the soup better than an I/O with a V hull. Pontoons are not good in rough water from my experience. They are awesome in smaller protected bodies of water. |
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i also agree pontoons/tritoons are seeing a huge spike in popularity. Other than being unglier than a box of buttholes, there is a LOT to like about them for everything other than watersports. |
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MAJOR BEG TO DIFFER. A tritoon absolutely shreds rough water. Shreds. Take a 24-26’ of each onto a churned up roller lake and behold the magic. It’s not a joke. Smooth, dry, fast. Crushes the Vhull of same length. Precisely the reason I bought one. By pontoon, people are referring to the modern tritoon with a big OB or even a big IO. A 47 footer. Well yeah. That’s kinda different, there. |
Hey middle class family that wants to have fun on a lake. Come buy a 100k inboard its worth it!!!!! hmmmmmmmmmm only paid 250 to 350 for my entire house! Thank you I will pass.
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It’s difficult to surf behind a house, though. 🤣 |
True!!!
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True. You could surf right behind your house in this case! [emoji23] |
Hey middle class family that wants to have fun on a lake. Come buy a 100k inboard its worth it!!!!! hmmmmmmmmmm only paid 250 to 350 for my entire house! Thank you I will pass.
lol. Must be nice. $ 500k will barely buy you a house where I live. (1 hour outside Vancouver BC). Since I bought my house just over 4 years ago the value went up on it more than you paid for your house. |
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Except you have to -sell- that house to get this baller money. The you don’t have a house? |
You dont sound very middle class to me bhahahhaa. Im just livin in the hood with 14 year old POS OG Xstar.
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I was lucky to get in to my first house when I was 25. Real estate has gone crazy since 05 with a couple quick escalations in there. I was fortunate enough to make good money on my first house to buy the house I'm in now. My old house which was half the size of my current one now would costs more than I paid for my house that I'm in now.
And definitely middle class. If you aren't moving than the current value means nothing. Also, Canada. Everything costs more. The other thread on here whining about $ 400 boat insurance....mines double. 6 pack of beer $ 12-14 over $3 a gallon of gas. Now back to the regular scheduled entertainment. Pontoons suck in chop!!! |
Sea Ray...selling out
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Oh how you are so wrong about tritoons my middle class friend. Dead wrong. Don’t take that the wrong way. BUT, a 26’ tritoon makes a 26’ vhull (let’s pick any; Cobalt Chaparral whatever) seem like it rides like a flat bottom jon boat. Don’t even try to understand it until you try it. [emoji6] |
Must be better than the old traditional dual tunes. They rode like crap.
I still think they are ugly as sin...minivan of the water, love that one. |
So true. Ugly but damn useful!
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Not quite as bad as minivan of the water. I actually would not mind a pontoon (with 3 pontoons) for trips around the lake but I would not give up my inboard. I see the pontoon as a great second boat. On the other hand, a minivan will never be in my garage - ever. I don't care how practical they are.
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How many kids do you have?🤣 |
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^^blasphemy^^
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Doubt I would replace my bu with a toon. But as others have said as a second boat it would be high on my list. Get one with the new joystick controls and twin 300 or 400's.
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If a ‘toon could surf.......
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