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augie_09 02-21-2015 11:06 AM

Bill , atr, atr s?
 
Anyone know if anything changed in the ronix bill line last 2 seasons? In '13, it was just bill. In 14, it was bill atr. This year there's bill atr and atr s.

I had 1 set on '13 bill 2 years ago and really liked it. Wanted to check on changes before buying.

augie_09 02-23-2015 5:40 AM

Anyone know what atr vs atr S is?

skiboarder 02-23-2015 6:09 AM

It has a lot more to do with a standardization of marketing terminology than anything. The shapes are exactly the same. I haven't tested the S yet, but just pushing on it in the shop the flex feels about the same as last years ATR. I will say the new graphics on the bill are pretty sweet and worth a couple of bucks to upgrade from the ATR.

augie_09 02-23-2015 9:45 AM

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Originally Posted by skiboarder (Post 1904894)
It has a lot more to do with a standardization of marketing terminology than anything. The shapes are exactly the same. I haven't tested the S yet, but just pushing on it in the shop the flex feels about the same as last years ATR. I will say the new graphics on the bill are pretty sweet and worth a couple of bucks to upgrade from the ATR.

thanks, trying to figure out the marketing terminology. 'S' means the delayed snap/stored energy. Sounds like the Bill always had this, but it wan't called out in the specs. I was hoping it was S for sintered and the non 'S' bill was a new lighter model with no grind base. Not the case it sounds.

skiboarder 02-23-2015 11:46 AM

August. It is simpler than that. There is only 1 Bill this year. The william is the exact shape, but it has a super stiff/wake layup. Both have a sintered base.

augie_09 02-23-2015 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by skiboarder (Post 1904914)
August. It is simpler than that. There is only 1 Bill this year. The william is the exact shape, but it has a super stiff/wake layup. Both have a sintered base.

gotcha, thanks.


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