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factorykitted 05-30-2012 11:37 AM

making the switch from lsv to mxz
 
I know the CIE guys have switched over and seem to like it but im looking for some other opinions.

What are your likes and dislikes so far? My real concern is losing the extra foot of space. The boat will be used to wakeboard, surf and of course party. How is the storage space compared to the LSV?

@CIE - any problems fitting all the stereo equipment versus your last lsv?

From what I have read the wake is what you would expect from a Malibu. Has anyone actually sac'd one out and surfed it?

dicky_diehl 06-03-2012 7:20 PM

anyone?

Houstonshark 06-04-2012 6:35 AM

The top deck of the LSV is sooo much better looking than the MXZ. The MXZ just looks strange above the rub rail, especially in the bow. I sat and looked at these two boats side by side on the water a couple weeks ago and the LSV is such a better looking boat.

Sorry, I know that's not what you were asking. This boat did have a Syn1 and 3 Syn2's along with 4 batteries under the observer's helm and there still seemed to be plenty of room.

Brett_B 06-04-2012 6:48 AM

Most of the MXZ space is in the bow. The cockpit feels about the same as the new VLX, maybe even a little smaller. The 23 LSV has much more room behind the windshield but a much smaller bow of course. Personal preference on where you want the space. The local guys say the sacked out MXZ wake is rediculous. Here is a pic from Warner's new MXZ.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...55150783_n.jpg

chucktronics 06-04-2012 6:56 AM

Brian -
The way they have constructed the drivers side of the boat is a lot different in the mxz . it is very similar to the axis. Before you basically had the whole opening available to you from the side of the boat all the way across to the walkthrough. Now there is a wall that is constant with the walkthrough and wraps around (across your feet and then turns back as the wall that the throttle is on . The face by your feet is cut out with a plastic pod that removes for access. once it is removed ,the room available inside is just as large ,if not larger than the 23, but restricted by the opening. you can only cut so much out as they have braced the entire steering rack on the upper portion of this wall. I ll see if i can snap a couple more pics to illustrate.

nautiboy614 06-04-2012 7:19 AM

The MXZ wake is sic.....and that's tough for me to say, I am a Nautique guy but have spending the past couple weeks riding Warner's MXZ and not one complaint about the size.

michridr69 06-04-2012 7:40 AM

Stay with the LSV !!!! Throw a few sacs in her and sheel throw the wake the mxz does lol. My buddy did the same you did and regrets how much room he lost, but like stated he does like the wake more.

wakesetter_WW 06-04-2012 8:01 AM

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My main riding partner traded in his 2010 LSV for a MXZ about a month or so ago. I've been out on it about every time he has had it out. I like the wake more than behind his old LSV. As far as storage goes I can't tell much of a difference. I'm sure the MXZ has less storage but for our use we don't ever come close to using it all. We keep most of the gear or extras in a storage locker or at my lake house. On the weekends we typically have somewhere between 4-8 people. Sometimes 10. With the stock ballast full, wedge and around ten people the wake is real nice. I like about 3-4 girls up front and 5-6 people in the back for the best wake. Here are two pictures. Wake picture is shot from another boat riding along side. Wake the picture is stock ballast and wedge with driver and observer in the boat. I'm about 5-8 for comparison.

factorykitted 06-04-2012 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by chucktronics (Post 1756999)
Brian -
The way they have constructed the drivers side of the boat is a lot different in the mxz . it is very similar to the axis. Before you basically had the whole opening available to you from the side of the boat all the way across to the walkthrough. Now there is a wall that is constant with the walkthrough and wraps around (across your feet and then turns back as the wall that the throttle is on . The face by your feet is cut out with a plastic pod that removes for access. once it is removed ,the room available inside is just as large ,if not larger than the 23, but restricted by the opening. you can only cut so much out as they have braced the entire steering rack on the upper portion of this wall. I ll see if i can snap a couple more pics to illustrate.

I noticed the wall, i figured it could be cut out. You guys did the install the CIE boat right? What did you guys do for subs? If so do you have any photos? Im really hoping i can fit two ported 15's, under the helm and passenger side. I'd like to do four 12's again but dont see that happening considering the size of the v-drive lockers.

jarrod 06-04-2012 10:55 AM

^^^ CIRES!!

Ryan is the guy to talk to about the stereo instal space in both boats. He did the stereo in our LSV and our MXZ.

As stated several times above, you do lose a little storage with the MXZ, but I would trade storage for wake all day long. The MXZ has a shape that the avid rider will love. It's a little taller, and has a little more lip. It's a meatier Xstar wake, achieved without having to pull 26 mph, so it's a little more forgiving.

If I was in the market to buy right now, it would still be a tough choice. Both boats have awesome wakes. The MXZ wins in the wake department. The space in the LSV is just so damn comfortable though.

Also, you can't beat the transom coolers and cup holders on the MXZ! Genius! :-)

We haven't surfed it. Probably never will.

jarrod 06-04-2012 11:03 AM

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I love the layout from this angle.

fullspeed 06-04-2012 11:09 AM

SWEET BOAT. Picture taken at Drifters, I was there yesterday.

factorykitted 06-04-2012 11:16 AM

thanks for the input. i agree that its a tough choice. ive had a lsv for the past 12 years and its really hard to give up that extra foot of space. the only reason im considering it is b/c its the new model otherwise id be back in another lsv.

im still interested in seeing a few stereo installs so please post them if you have pics.

jarrod 06-04-2012 11:58 AM

Ryan, you got this?

factorykitted 06-04-2012 1:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jarrod (Post 1757129)
Ryan, you got this?


any regrets doing the rev410 or the 3rd pair of rev 10's in the center? the headroom of the g3 sure is nice....

chucktronics 06-04-2012 2:25 PM

grab'n a couple pics shortly

CDoogles 06-04-2012 2:28 PM

Here is a write-up I did on the surf wave....

http://www.themalibucrew.com/forums/...mxz-surf-wave/

The wakeboard wake sweet too. One of the best wakes I've ever ridden...although I obviously have a slight bias since I own the boat. No one would be disappointed with it though, I can promise you that :)

nitrousbird 06-04-2012 7:14 PM

Rumor is a 24' MXZ may come out for model year 2013......

malibuohio 06-04-2012 7:19 PM

Great boat, wake can get huge & clean. I would say one of the best wakes I been on! It drives great, my old 05 was a tank sacked out.... MXZ handles great. On the space comments I would def say the LSV has more room if that is what ur looking for, BUT I'm all about the wake!:D

malibuohio 06-04-2012 7:25 PM

Also I'm Warner.... Picked her up from Delaware Marine n Columbus Ohio. She's got the 550 hp Supercharged Caddy Engine. All I got to say it is like a sports car on water!!!! :)

chucktronics 06-04-2012 8:51 PM

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We tried both the rev 10 and the 410 , both look excellent . it is quite a bit easier to install the 8 rev 10's than the 410 method. We wanted to showcase the 410 as it had not been heard at the time and were the first available . As far as the subs are concerned ,There are 2 12 ' sealed with passive radiators . Remembering that this is a manufacture boat ,I'm not sure, no, I'm sure the air saw is NOT an option.......lol. I think you might be able to do a single 15 per side if you cut all the way to the steering support . The steering is now supported not only thy the surface that it is mounted to like
all other boats ,but has an aluminum back support that extends back to this wall about 8 inches making it extremely rigid.

sorry I don't have any pics handy of the sub segment right now . I will see when i get to my other computer . here are some pics of rev 10's only . excuse the iPhone pics.

ktrent 06-05-2012 1:30 PM

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Originally Posted by nitrousbird (Post 1757297)
Rumor is a 24' MXZ may come out for model year 2013......

Heard the same rumor. I have waited this long a couple months can't hurt.

factorykitted 06-07-2012 9:58 AM

^ not happening

cjh1669 06-07-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by factorykitted (Post 1758102)
^ not happening

Actually my dealer verified this a few months for me, there will be a 24ft MXZ

jarrod 06-07-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by factorykitted (Post 1758102)
^ not happening

Yes it is.

ktrent 06-07-2012 3:09 PM

i hope for a late summer 2012 release.

factorykitted 06-07-2012 4:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jarrod (Post 1758129)
Yes it is.

So you're telling there is 24 MXZ to be released as a 2013 model?

adam_balon 06-07-2012 4:15 PM

yes.

michridr69 06-08-2012 4:36 AM

now a 24ft MXZ, Sign me up..

cjh1669 06-08-2012 7:44 AM

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Originally Posted by factorykitted (Post 1758271)
So you're telling there is 24 MXZ to be released as a 2013 model?

Yeah, should start seeing them in Sept more than likely

factorykitted 06-08-2012 9:42 AM

i wont hold my breath. i would be all over a 23 mxz

cjh1669 06-08-2012 9:45 AM

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Originally Posted by factorykitted (Post 1758523)
i wont hold my breath. i would be all over a 23 mxz

It's verified, I was there when he was talking to his rep at malibu. Why do a 23ft when you already have a 22ft? 24ft MXZ for 2013 is 100% happening, it's going to be one expensive boat

factorykitted 06-08-2012 9:48 AM

24' is too big for most slips on my lake. 75% of the slips were made back in the direct drive ski boat days. 24 mxz will be a mackin boat for sure.

jarrod 06-11-2012 3:22 PM

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Took some pics 0f our wake. They're not great pics, but you get the idea.

jarrod 06-11-2012 3:23 PM

24.8 - 80 feet back.

polarbill 06-11-2012 3:27 PM

Those bass boats must love you. Haha.

jarrod 06-11-2012 3:33 PM

The second shot give you an idea for how much lip the wake has. Noticeably steeper than the LSV

factorykitted 06-27-2012 1:16 PM

so you guys were right, i got confirmation that the 24 mxz will be showing up around sept, they are able to place orders now but apparently they dont have pricing yet. im sure it wont be cheap considering the engine upgrade is a must along with the mxz tax slapped on there. I have a slot but told them i cant make a commitment until i see the price. I heard they are photographing the catalog boat now so i assume pictures will be leaking sooner or later.

jarrod 06-27-2012 2:46 PM

Cool! I'm almost never right!

michridr69 06-27-2012 3:18 PM

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Originally Posted by factorykitted (Post 1763334)
so you guys were right, i got confirmation that the 24 mxz will be showing up around sept, they are able to place orders now but apparently they dont have pricing yet. im sure it wont be cheap considering the engine upgrade is a must along with the mxz tax slapped on there. I have a slot but told them i cant make a commitment until i see the price. I heard they are photographing the catalog boat now so i assume pictures will be leaking sooner or later.

You just made my day!! haha

nitrousbird 06-27-2012 7:54 PM

This thread just makes me want an MXZ even more - probably my favorite wakeboat currently. I love the styling, size, features, and the wake just looks awesome (not that my unskilled ass needs a wakeboard wake that big, but the surf wakes some folks are getting look really nice).

Maybe in a few years after the prices come down to reasonable levels.

jarrod 07-02-2012 7:24 AM

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more shots of the MXZ. The first wake shot is slammed, the second shot is stock plus a little extra.

jarrod 07-02-2012 7:25 AM

The wake stay lippy and clean as far back as you want to ride.

migs 07-02-2012 8:23 AM

J-rod - good seeing you guys out there sat - I was the Black n Grey SAN 210 launching at the same time as you @ Orwood when it was nice and quiet.
The MXZ is looking rediK!

gnarslayer 07-02-2012 8:33 AM

when i rode one i was impressed with everything except the power, an upgraded engine would be really nice to have

nailem 07-02-2012 11:01 AM

how much water are you in in the last pic? this is my first inboard and im always paranoid and try to stay waist deep in back.

jarrod 07-05-2012 11:27 AM

The stern is in waste deep water. The front of the hull is sitting on sand.

J.B. Hows the Xstar?

We've got the LS3 Corvette motor. We were just discussing the other day how the MXZ with the LS3 rivals the wake of the 8.1 Xstar. The wakes are nearly identical.

calexan 07-05-2012 3:09 PM

Im ready to see the 247 MXZ wake!

lionel 07-05-2012 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jarrod (Post 1759165)
Took some pics 0f our wake. They're not great pics, but you get the idea.

Look at that bass boat lean. They have to be loving you guys :D


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