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Batch12 07-04-2017 7:46 PM

Attempting a raley
 
My very first attempt at a ralley 😂😂

https://www.facebook.com/beau.atchis...73337042988887

tripsw 07-04-2017 8:42 PM

Can't watch. Gotta change privacy settings probably.
You're still alive so must have went well :p

Batch12 07-05-2017 10:08 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KOcpvr7reU

1:43 is where the raley is

jonblarc7 07-05-2017 11:05 AM

You bounced LOL

Your driver looks like they are always making a small turn. They need to go straight.

denverd1 07-05-2017 11:38 AM

and they need to drive the same speed
you need to hit the wake TS
rotate phone 90°
please do some edging drills before you get worked throwing things you don't plan on landing

holdsworth 07-05-2017 12:19 PM

Here's the long how-to on the raley that will help you big time.

The bad:

Setup - Never start a raley that close to the wake
Edge - You're bending at the waist and killing your speed build up
Pop - Never, ever flatten out the board for a raley
Takeoff - Don't try to muscle this trick. The wake should be doing the work to get the board behind you

The corrections:

Setup - Start much further out away from the wake. This lets you build up more speed and gives you a little more time to set up the trick
Edge - Straighten your back, bend your knees, and get your butt low. If you're taking a raley big, you should feel like you're pulling a heavy deadlift against the boat. Keep your balance slightly heavy on the front leg for takeoff (explained below).
Pop - Edge allllllll the way through the wake. Never flatten off, BUT do let off your edge at the bottom of the wake and start to stand tall. This body-going-up movement should be somewhat relaxed for the next step, which gets the board up behind you...
Takeoff - Now that you're relaxed, let the boat and the board do the work. The pop will throw the board behind you and your upper body just moves forward with the boat/rope. Everyone says to look up the rope to avoid stargazing, but this really doesn't help at all because they'll typically take off rear-foot heavy. By edging in with more weight on the front foot, you'll come off the wake much more square to the boat and won't stargaze so easy. So don't worry about "looking up" just get your weight in the right place on the edge and you'll be fine, just spot your landing. If your chest opens up to the shore, you're too rear-foot heavy. If you front roll into it, you're too heavy on the front --- find your balance point.
Landing - When you're ready to bring it down, it's extremely easy. Do not pull the rope towards you, it does absolutely nothing. Instead, bringing a raley down is exactly like using one of those "ab roller" things. Let me explain. With the roller you start on your knees with your hands on the roller handles. You extend out by extending your knees and keeping your arms straight, then back in the same way --- you don't bend your arms to get the roller underneath you, but instead you use your shoulders to "push" the roller into the floor and bring it back underneath you while banding your knees back to the starting position. Raley is the exact same thing. Push the handle straight down to the water and bend you knees up to the handle. Spot your landing and you have it.

That's it. Good luck!

Batch12 07-05-2017 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holdsworth (Post 1962335)
Here's the long how-to on the raley that will help you big time.

The bad:

Setup - Never start a raley that close to the wake
Edge - You're bending at the waist and killing your speed build up
Pop - Never, ever flatten out the board for a raley
Takeoff - Don't try to muscle this trick. The wake should be doing the work to get the board behind you

The corrections:

Setup - Start much further out away from the wake. This lets you build up more speed and gives you a little more time to set up the trick
Edge - Straighten your back, bend your knees, and get your butt low. If you're taking a raley big, you should feel like you're pulling a heavy deadlift against the boat. Keep your balance slightly heavy on the front leg for takeoff (explained below).
Pop - Edge allllllll the way through the wake. Never flatten off, BUT do let off your edge at the bottom of the wake and start to stand tall. This body-going-up movement should be somewhat relaxed for the next step, which gets the board up behind you...
Takeoff - Now that you're relaxed, let the boat and the board do the work. The pop will throw the board behind you and your upper body just moves forward with the boat/rope. Everyone says to look up the rope to avoid stargazing, but this really doesn't help at all because they'll typically take off rear-foot heavy. By edging in with more weight on the front foot, you'll come off the wake much more square to the boat and won't stargaze so easy. So don't worry about "looking up" just get your weight in the right place on the edge and you'll be fine, just spot your landing. If your chest opens up to the shore, you're too rear-foot heavy. If you front roll into it, you're too heavy on the front --- find your balance point.
Landing - When you're ready to bring it down, it's extremely easy. Do not pull the rope towards you, it does absolutely nothing. Instead, bringing a raley down is exactly like using one of those "ab roller" things. Let me explain. With the roller you start on your knees with your hands on the roller handles. You extend out by extending your knees and keeping your arms straight, then back in the same way --- you don't bend your arms to get the roller underneath you, but instead you use your shoulders to "push" the roller into the floor and bring it back underneath you while banding your knees back to the starting position. Raley is the exact same thing. Push the handle straight down to the water and bend you knees up to the handle. Spot your landing and you have it.

That's it. Good luck!

the first raley in the video wasnt the one i was talking about that was the 2nd attempted raley and i was much more timid

holdsworth 07-05-2017 12:49 PM

I was talking about the one at 1:43. I didn't see the first one, just skipped forward to where in the vid you were referring to.

timelinex 07-05-2017 2:53 PM

Holy crap, you've got some balls to try a raley at your level of riding lol. The raley isn't technically difficult, but it's just one of the highest chance of injury tricks while learning (or so I've heard). Maybe my rib injuries have made me a bit more timid.

bcrider 07-05-2017 3:14 PM

If you want to help yourself behind that stern drive have your driver trim the motor up once on plane. Enough that the wake stops rolling over and will make a better wake for you. Never ceases to amaze me how many people just leave an adjustable leg all the way down no matter the water conditions. Adjusting can make for a better ride in rough water, speed the boat up when WOT, and clean up the wake.

Batch12 07-05-2017 3:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timelinex (Post 1962343)
Holy crap, you've got some balls to try a raley at your level of riding lol. The raley isn't technically difficult, but it's just one of the highest chance of injury tricks while learning (or so I've heard). Maybe my rib injuries have made me a bit more timid.

Just gotta send it

Batch12 07-05-2017 3:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Batch12 (Post 1962347)
Just gotta send it

trust me ive tried but when we trim it up it goes to fast and we will gently slow down and at 20mph its not in plane anymore so we just leave it down its hard to explain on here

Batch12 07-05-2017 3:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcrider (Post 1962344)
If you want to help yourself behind that stern drive have your driver trim the motor up once on plane. Enough that the wake stops rolling over and will make a better wake for you. Never ceases to amaze me how many people just leave an adjustable leg all the way down no matter the water conditions. Adjusting can make for a better ride in rough water, speed the boat up when WOT, and clean up the wake.

trust me ive tried but when we trim it up it goes to fast and we will gently slow down and at 20mph its not in plane anymore so we just leave it down its hard to explain on here

Reddog78 07-05-2017 3:51 PM

Gotta walk before you can run man.

newwhit 07-05-2017 5:38 PM

Put some weight in the boat.
Try a toe side jump.

Batch12 07-05-2017 6:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reddog78 (Post 1962352)
Gotta walk before you can run man.

what do you mean?

bcrider 07-06-2017 8:49 AM

Beau, I grew up riding behind a 19' cuddy cabin with an outboard. The driver will constantly have to be on/off the throttle to hold speed but trimming up will make a better wake. Every time I would cut out I could slow the boat down. It's about the driver being on top of his game.

razorjaw 07-09-2017 9:58 PM

Awesome attempt mate! Despite the lack of love, it takes guts and you're most of the way there! I landed my first raley behind a fishing boat with a similar wake (and haven't landed one since!
Here's 2 fantastic videos that will help you land it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXa6lmilQrI&t=14s

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lttX0xu7Ak8

DCross 07-11-2017 2:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by razorjaw (Post 1962529)
Awesome attempt mate! Despite the lack of love, it takes guts and you're most of the way there! I landed my first raley behind a fishing boat with a similar wake (and haven't landed one since!
Here's 2 fantastic videos that will help you land it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXa6lmilQrI&t=14s

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lttX0xu7Ak8

Completely agree... can't learn without trying and most of the people I actually see riding just don't have the balls to try new tricks. So, you're one step ahead of most! If you've got a wakeskate, that's definitely a good way to practice.

bill 08-07-2017 12:20 PM

I cant see the video either but from what people are saying I agree it takes the want to first and you seem to have that but getting a solid base IE learning strong big floaty W2Ws and getting your form down first will help get this consistent for you quicker as you can get CLOSE for years and never get it until you get a solid form down first..

Gary 08-07-2017 8:16 PM

Check out the youtube videos posted above. I learned the raley this summer because of those videos. Definitely use a wakeskate or a wakeboard without bindings or a surf board to avoid such rough slams. otherwise follow the number one rule and have fun and keep shredding.

jonblarc7 08-08-2017 1:54 PM

Every time I tried a raley on a wakeskate I would over extend and do a fully laid out front flip to the face. I made a full rotation before I hit the water because I was letting go when I felt like I couldn't control how high my feet went up. After so many of those I decide that wasn't the trick for me at the time LOL.


At least your trying!!!

gqjeff 08-17-2017 12:04 PM

Nice to see another IL rider. My sons 10 but a pretty solid rider. Hes just started to try and get inverted in the last few weeks. I haven't been the Shelbyville since I was a kid. Def a nice lake and we need to make it down sometime. We usually hit Clinton early and then r boat goes on a lift at our cabin near South Wilmington. Keep practicing and make sure your riding that progressive edge up that wake. Don;t let off the throttle. Also throw some fatsacs in that badboy and get that wake a little better. Good luck and be safe. Happy Shredding!


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