Calexit
Just figured I would put this up. I'm sorry I don't contribute much to the football and political threads but I have no football team anymore and my career prevents me from picking a political side on a public forum. However I read these threads every day and get much enjoyment from doing so.
I cant wait to hear the Wakeworld view on this. Thanks. |
Please take Oregon and Washington with you!!
Can you imagine how awesome it would be to not have to give money any more California and Washington Dollars to the flyover states anymore? I still don't understand why the states that get the most federal dollars are the ones that want the least interference from the federal government. |
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If it does happen, it will be interesting to see what the trade agreements will be like.
Just on electricity. California only makes 2/3 of the electricity they use (CA. energy commission), and CARB is even more stringent then the EPA on power plants. So will the prices of electricity go back to the Enron days due to the "flyover states" tariff on the power grid or will CARB be forced to change policies so that the west coast can start generating enough power to be self sufficient? |
As embarrassed as I am right now to be associated with some Americans, California leaving is a terrible idea. We are one of the main drivers behind science and reality. It doesn't matter how clean we are when the rest of the climate deniers are burning up coal right next door. The Trump election was a wake up call for all the young people who didn't vote and I think we could make real change soon. We just have to get past the 30 years Trump is going to set us back first.
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This would never happen, although there would be many on the right who would welcome it - the removal of 55 blue electoral votes? They'd be salivating.
Jarrod, CA is 46th out of 50 as far as federal dependency goes. https://wallethub.com/edu/states-mos...vernment/2700/ |
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Thank you. I'll read into it when I have time later on.
I realize spending doesn't mean dependence necessarily, but I thought this was interesting nonetheless. http://www.lao.ca.gov/LAOEconTax/Article/Detail/131 |
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By far the dumbest idea to come from all this- although i'd be in favor of splitting norcal and socal into separate states.
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stateofjefferson.com
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I know it's hard to believe, Mark, but telling a hypocritical asshat to go **** himself does not constitute insanity.
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Always classy...
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In his defense, sometimes he goes with "KABOOM."
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I hope you realize this is just fun banter to me. I'm still having fun even when you guys are freaking out and calling names. I'm not even offended and I don't care how right you libbies think you are. I still disagree with you, as does the majority of the whole country. |
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This is a fantasy, never going to happen
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I thought that about a trump presidency too to to be fair.....
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Can we not have a decent debate without it going to name calling and fighting.
The water issue has been brought up. Again being from a "fly over state" I am not to up on all of the flow / politics on the lakes and rivers there. But it sure seems to be a hot topic and seems that southern Cali could be put in a tight spot and forced to do desalinization if northern Cali was a separate state or if the surrounding states were now a different country and damned off the water to them. I touched on the electric grid a bit, but right now California is already getting power from Mexico. So even if the surrounding states put a huge tax on the incoming power. Maybe Mexico would build some large fossil fuel facilities and provide for Cali. Seeing as they don't have CARB or the EPA to deal with, they can build plants quickly and much cheaper then in the U.S or in Cali. Do you think they would stay with the Federal Reserve or go to their own currency? Would their currency be backed by a commodity (Gold, Silver Etc.)? Lets talk about the true issues of it happened not the bickering. |
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I would completely vote for California to leave and I live here. I would troll that to death.
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Asserting your independence by simultaneously asking for millions. LOL!! Shouldn't CA be asking the president of Mexico for assistance instead. Who is the hypocritical asshat now...
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/1...ent-3150494640 |
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