“Dangerous ****** Tour.”
Milo and his “Dangerous ****** Tour.”
I turned on the local news here in the bay aera, and saw that Milo & Martin Shkrelias were going to speak at UC Davis. It was set up by a group called "The Campus Republicans" Well I guess what ever they were going to say was so bad that protesters threw hammers threw the Events windows and caused a ruckus so they canceled the event. LOL you lefties sure are violent and destructive. I guess freedom of speech is ok unless it's somthing the lefties don't like? http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2017/0...smash-windows/ |
I googled Milo and watched part of one of his speeches. Not good. I think he hurts the cause.
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^^^Having said that, how can anyone be surprised at students acting like idiots when their professors are even bigger idiots that fuel the fire of hatred towards conservative thought? These kids are brainwashed from a very young age. Our only hope is to teach our kids to think for themselves or never allow them into the public school system.
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The left feels as if they have the right to take away people's 1st amendment right. They also give them selfs the power to label anything they disagree with "Hate Speech" I though the lefties were all about tolerance & diversity? And isn't a college campus where these free thinkers are supposed gather and discuss ideas and views?
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I have yet to see any "lefties" wanting to revoke the 1st. Perhaps you are just ignorant of what free speech the 1st protects.
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Social Justice Warriors: throwing rocks and acting as "they do" is fine BUT if you happen to say or believe things that go against what they Believe your views or Ideas must be silenced. Hypocrites
Example Fly I deem what your say "Hate Speech" you need to be gone! O the Irony |
Throwing rocks is a crime. Nothing to do with the 1st amendment. Not sure why it's so hard for you to understand the purpose of the 1st. You are perfectly free to say I need to be gone. There is no irony here. Just a demonstration of your ignorance.
The irony comment was obviously directed at Mark's post. It's ironic that his idea of teaching a child to think for themselves is to isolate them from the general public so that they have most or all the information presented to them under the control of the parent. Parents get to spend far more time with their child to instill the wisdom and knowledge they deem appropriate than any teacher with an ideology. Kids spend most of their time in school learning basic skills. If by the time your child gets to college you haven't been able impress them with your wisdom, it's probably because you don't have any. So it should be no surprise that they are off thinking for themselves based on them acquiring what they feel is knowledge from better sources. |
There are twats and hypocrites everywhere and on both sides, all you can do is call it out when you see it. Labeling these people as representatives of the left does nothing for anybody IMO. They may have some left ideas but once they start protesting in this way they are not behaving in a liberal way, they are just being violent hypocrites.
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John: these people realize that if they do what they traditionally do: yell scream, start fights, throw rocks, tip over a cop car, light a fire, shoot a cop, ya know all they Typical things that the Social justice warriors like to do. They can shut down a event just like they did last night & no ideas were expressed no opinions aired so in effect Milos freedom of speech was taken away. I know you don't like to connect the dots when they prove your point wrong but at this point I know your style you would argue with a fence post to pass time
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I've never heard a fence post say anything I disagreed with.
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What surprises me Grant, is you identify Milo's message as partisan issues and have no problem defending it. I might even go as far as to say you're proud to be a part of it. Same thing happened at Columbia University. I for one don't put enough thought into his rhetoric to protest him, but i'm not going to support him either. As for Shkreli (Not Shkrelias) I've had the pleasure of seeing him kicked out of a party where he it appeared that he needed a safe space to shed his tears and tell everyone how great he was.
I read something a few weeks ago about when history looks back on this period in time and what side of the argument you're on. |
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Double: I could Care less about Milo. I don't subscribe, don't follow, Don't care. What I do protest to is. People getting out of control because they "don't like what you have to say" one side seems to be pretty hostile when they don't get their way. Hummm what dude do u think I'm talking about
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Cable; I see your point and you are 100% correct. Both sides of the political spectrum should be taught, in today's Collage climate republican views and thoughts are not welcome. In a place where free thinking is supposed to be taught and welcomed why are views from the right side oppressed.
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For sure both sides have a right to say they want and freedom of speech isn't an excuse for destruction, nor is it acceptable. But what i'm wondering is how you know it was the left that was protesting?
A lot of republicans are lining up behind Milo because he inflames so many. I called you a raciest previously only to get a rise out of you. But there is a lot to be learned by looking at the company one keeps. At the end of the day, compassion and tolerance shouldn't be a partisan issue, as you're trying to make it with this thread. |
Sorry guys if your able to recognize reality I don't know what to say. Your welcome to your opinion but sorry that's not reality.
Like #1 the left are the ones who Protesting Violently, Please answer this question. How many gun toating Thugs you think Vote Republican? |
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I don't think Grants post had anything to do at all with supporting the message or making the message a partisan issue. What he made the issue with was the actions of those liberal lunatics who are more intolerant and destructive than any right leaning person in America when they disagree. The actual constitution does not exist in their mind. It's sickening what they are able to get away with. |
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I get the argument that intolerance of my intolerant views is intolerant, but I'm having trouble of actual examples of oppression. |
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Sorry I didn't see anyone answering my question!!!! "How many of these gun toating Thugs vote Republican" ummmm I think we all know the answer is next to ZERO . You Libs don't need to answer that's ok I know it makes your side or movement look stupid but that's ok, we all know it. Ralph has said basically there are knuckle heads on both sides (can't we all get along) :) . & I agree with him. The Right has it idiots KKK and Alt right straight up dumb ass people, the diff is we can call a spade a spade. Milo is a Jeark but that Dosent mean he can't have a say. But let's call a duck a duck. Libs are intolerant, but they preach tolerance. So in my book they are all crybaby hypocrites.
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edit; LOL just saw Jeremy's post. |
As a matter of fact almost every gun toting , gangbanger votes here in Chicago and in Detroit. I would assume same follow suit in other major city across the nation . You're sadly mistaken if you don't think they vote. In most of these circles the gangs, the political activists like Jessie and Al and their supporters actual pay them to go vote d get people to vote . Gang members also Intimidate the people of their area to vote certain ways and are rewarded for their actions. In the past few elections they even purchased coach busses to give people rides to the polls.
It was quoted that I believe everyone protesting is a democrat. Do I think every protester is a democrat. Nope. I bet a few voted for Bernie as well. There are for sure professional agitators and people who just seize the opportunity to cause mayhem and destruction, but those are the minority. I'll open to question up to anyone. Name 5 major protests that caused destruction ,property damage, intimidated people for having different views, or was a result of a lost election that was spear headed by the right? I have heard plenty of people saying we are wrong in our assumptions. Provide us some facts |
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But you haven't answered my question, do you think compassion and tolerance is a partisan issue? |
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^ you are correct in some of your thinking^
I see these dis-enfranchised people (another word for Pants on the ground people) as people that vote what supports their "F" up life style. Rewards single mothers for poping out kids. Rewards people with food and money for contributing nothing. Free housing, Free Education,Free Medical and yes that's Health Care. You wanna put a tattoo across your face, you wanna become domestic partners with your dog, you wanna die your hair Neon Green and study the Bongo Drums at Uc bearkly and then complain you can't find work??? You bet these people vote to a party that welcomes and rewards anti social actions |
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I think you are dead wrong if you believe gang members are voting regularly in elections. |
Yes Your right Ghetto people like you talked about (Poor White Trash) yes I'm sure they Vote to the right. While waving the confederate flag "Yea Haw" but these are Not the people that are talking about. They are not marching and protesting shooting cops, burning and looting shutting down speaking events. Ok here is a Idea. let's see these pussy a$$ UC Davis protesters try and shut down a monster truck event, LOL
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I am still hearing the crickets for the right wing protests of destruction I'll even lower it to 3 and expand it to the 8yrs of Obama
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What's the right got to protest about? Everyone having HI?
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Benghazi? (dead American Soldiers) Fast and Furious (dead American LEO's) Email Scandal. BLM ( fact that families who tried to kill officers were pararded through the White House as martyrs) Fact Obama was wrong condemning numerous LEO's on nations biggest stage before having any facts ( all his accusations proven false btw) Obamacare which has increased health care costs to millions and reduced coverage. My costs have doubled my options fir care have halved and my out of pocket expensive per visit have almost tripled. Common Core Educational mandate Clintons Campaign Venues Do you need more ? If the Right followed the actions of all the intolerant babies on the left ,we would have burned city's , shut down business , beat and attacked people with different views, shut down any event that goes on with different views by using any means necessary, including violence. Screamed racist !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Instead people turned out to vote like civilized human beings , not whiny babies . |
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Seeing is how my wife is a principal , my inlaws and my Mom at all retired teachers I know exactly what is , and it's awful. Complete garbage , don't even get me into the fact it was rammed down school district's throats to ensure funding. Kids lost complete years worth of education by being forced to a transition with no thought for how to ensure the transition was good for the kids at certain grade levels. A vote was given to 4 of the major school districts here in some of the highest rated schools in the state. An overwhelming majority of 82% of teachers are still completely opposed to it. In a nutshell It's designed to teach for testing ? Not to teach fundamentals of learning. A federal mandated educational program , designed by bean counters , rammed down schools throats is garbage . It's a very " robotic" way of teaching that does not leave room for pure development of young minds You obviously believe otherwise. Why do you feel it bettered our schools ? |
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Let's spilt people in to groups so we can label them, discount there views without considering them and feel secure in our ideas, my group is best! Yay for us. There is no us and them, it's all just us. |
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My only "us vs them " view point is the good guys vs the criminals. That's is my only distinct viewpoint I tend to follow. For obvious reasons. Politics and social viewpoints will always be debatable. I have my views and feelings based on my experiences . I have left all my conclusions and arguments open with an opportunity for those who seem to disagree to provide proof and facts for their arguments and statements. I truly believe in discussion . Discussions with facts and proof. Not discussions based on hearsay and conjecture. I've responded with facts and data , can't say the same for the others. Feel free to discuss you're reasons . Unfortunately in America there is an us and them. Our political system is set up that way. Policies and viewpoints differ greatly between the two groups when it comes to certain things. It isn't an absolute all or nothing in my eyes. I share some ideas the left does also , however a majority of my feelings and views sway me more right(I know shocking right) . At the end of the day you can either accept the fact this is reality or live in in fantasyland and sing kumbaya. I truly believe if Washington spent more time actually sitting in a room and talking, working towards solutions by presenting ideas and keeping an open mind , rather than being more focused on re-election campaigns, we all would win. Ultimately I would argue everyone wants the same goals. There is just a huge discrepancy in which way people think is the right way to obtain those goals |
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I'll bet the gun toting militia that took over the nature reserve by force all voted Republican. The dude that shot up the Sikh temple in Wisconson was very Republican (side note : also completely ignorant of the difference between a muslum and a Sikh) The 2009 murder of Dr. George Tiller by an anti-abortion activist Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church shooting. The shooter said he was motivated by a "hatred of liberals, democrats and gays" Guy who murdered Dr. John Britton (anti-abortion nutjob) Suicide attack on an Austin IRS building by republican Timothy McVeigh obviously. On a smaller scale (like what the violent liberals you are complaining about are doing) the right wing has : After Obamas election in 2008 three white male attackers shouted “F&*( Obama!” and “Ni$%^& president!” as they broke the nose and fractured the eye-socket of one of Obamas campaign volunteers A black church in Massachusetts was burned down after the O election. Since Trumps elections their has been a massive spike in crimes against Muslims, Latinos, blacks, and the LGBT community from "make america great again" cap wearing douch-tards. I'm sure I could dig up more examples if you want. |
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On a different note: common core blows!
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I had an interesting conversation with a more intellectual friend of mine, she leans more left than I do (strangely, I would be considered right wing in the NZ political spectrum) she contracts as a consultant to govt departments so gets to see an inside look. Her view was there is so much incompetence and waste in policy implementation that it doesn't matter if it is left or right, what is most importance is competence. Well implemented right ideas are better than poorly implemented left and vise versa. In the big scheme of things there isn't enough of a difference between dems and Republican policy to be the deciding factor, its who you think can screw up the least will end up being the best for the country
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The issue is, you can't reason with the un-reasonable. You can hit them with facts all day and not get anywhere. Any minute now Grant and Detla are going to remind you that Hillary was SOS during Benghazi and she had some classified emails on a private server. Delta thinks republicans have been the conservative party since Lincoln for christ sakes. He will even post a link to a guy's blog to prove it! It's Jonestown all over again. If Trump tells them to drink the cool-aide, then it's bottoms up! |
Double sorry to disappoint, I won't do what typical Libs do and try and blame the last guy. Now it's gonna be about getting the snow flakes on board
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Bush left the WH with the country in one of the worst recessions in decades and heavily involved in two wars. See the difference? |
No they can't see the difference because their world revolves around partisan politics. The actual issues are too complicated for them to understand. But left vs right only gives them a 50% chance of being wrong and they still got it wrong.
Like swatguy who thinks that Benghazi is a protestable thing even after the highest level of right wing govt investigated the issue with a vengeance and concluded that basically nothing was actionable and Hillary did nothing wrong. Even their man Trump claimed that nobody is interested in convicting Hillary. That his performance before the election was simply a show to get the knuckledraggers to vote for him. |
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As stated above, Obama is leaving the economy in pretty good shape, but you're going tell us its not. Then you'll cherry pick some small issue to base your argument. You're confusing "blame" with holding accountable. |
Hummm How's this Economy is Great! & getting even better (With the Trump admin coming in) Obama did a great Job! So end of that part of your argument. :)
Now back to the Original topic. Snowflakes Libra Tards plan on protesting the inauguration. Now I have zero problem with people protesting (peacefully) but that's Not what these left wing idiots are planning. Shutting down or blocking traffic, here even in my local town. So let's re-cap. Your Party lost fair and square. Your party made a big deal of Trump saying he May not accept the Ellection results if he lost. The media made a big deal out of it. now that the shoe is on the other foot it's ok to protest and not accept the results. Where is the moderate Librals saying "come on guys we lost" let's stop this and move forward |
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As far as Clinton goes, the rest of us would be in jail if we treated classified data like that. The one guy in the navy got put in jail for over a year for taking a picture on a sub. You really want me to start posting link after link of what has to be hundreds of highway blockaids, riots, store looting and so on? You obviously don't pay attention to the followups to these "uptick" of Republican racial violence were actually performed by democrat operatives. Like the Northwestern incident. The high school incident and so on. As far as stock piling guns. Yes, people should not trust the absolute powerful or trust others outside the country. If one thing history tells us, absolute power corrupts absolutely. |
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Are you high? Historical crime stats??? Have you seen the crime stats of the nation. Democratic areas have the highest crime index of any other city. Record book homicides in numerous areas acros the country. Coinicidence?????????i think not. As pointed out by many people here. Plenty of right leaning people on aid as well. What are the crime indexes in their areas ? The murder rates per capita ? If we are going to use violence as a counter as revealed in the post you quoted, let's be fair an start racking up all the violence |
Man I wish I would have known that Play Dough and therapy dogs would be in such demand.
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My list of leftie domestic terrorists would go *** for tat with yours if were were to go back in time. Some of the most violent activists in our history are from the left. You're speaking about apples to oranges here. If you want to talk about killing rates and get on that I would be happy to provide you all the crime stats of the democratic run major cities, vs the republican run ones and we gan go from there. Then we can start talking murderers and lunatics. |
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What I am hearing is people are mad that the corruption was uncovered and not that the corruption was happening? |
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Hillary is no longer in the picture. You can let that go now. When justifying your chosen leader you now have to actually talk about Trump and not go back to "Clinton is awful". Start explaining how Trump is good (this should be fun) |
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"Trump Says Russia Had Role in Hacks, Insists There Was No Election Impact" >>>>> According to a declassified version of a long-anticipated report, the intelligence community found "Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election. Russia's goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump." <<<<< So Trump says yeah they Hacked the election, but then backpedals and says it didn't effect anything. The one thing you definitely can't know one way or the other is if people voted for Trump because they knew the facts or believed the Memes and propaganda that Russia put out. So the title of the article should be "Trump admits Russia had a role in hacks, then pulled crap out of his butt about the impact on the election." |
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Trump is not even my 3rd pick so there is that and my vote certainly did not count in California in the general election and in the primaries as it was decided before it got to me. With that said, What I like about Trump is: - He is not going bullied (especially by the press or foreign leaders) - I think he understands what it takes to move projects along - He understands what regulations are killing investment in the US and stops projects - He understands that no country has ever undergone such a demographic shift outside of a major invasion - He is pro 2nd amendment I am sure I can find more, however I think these are good discussion points. |
Swat, you seem to be interested in education. Curious what your honest assessment is of DeVos?
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Trade deals is a big one really. Or more so having leadership with a spine. What happens is we make trade agreements to even the playing field. Which is good. But after that our neighboring countries will do other things that basically undermine our agreement, like devalue currency. Thus making us unable to compete. That, when added to the fact it is already more expensive to build, produce, provide any product or service in the us makes us unable to compete. We need leadership that doesn't just sit back and pat themselves on the back for making an agreement that on paper looks good.
It will be interesting to see if anyone agrees with me on this. IMHO negotiating is an art, hence why I think trump (author of art of the deal) will actually do really well for our economy. |
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"Let's be clear: whatever else Donald Trump is, it's a self-perpetuated myth that he's a good closer." |
I guess I was wrong to assume... He's probably never bought or sold anything before.
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Tony Schwartz has some pretty strong feelings against Trump. And probably for good reason. I agree with a lot that he says based on my own observations of him from far away. I guess in the end he seems like a pretty damage guy, hell bent on winning, in almost a sick way.
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How would you feel if Trump tweeted a shout out to a company praising your biggest business rival?
I'm assuming some of you are business owners. |
The guy is a self absorbed insecure egomaniac. AND he's putting Rick Perry in charge of the nukes.
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I'm sure you're fine with the Russians trying to screw with our elections but you might want to ask yourself why your OK with this. How do you think Regan would have reacted? |
Rod, that's the job he's being given.
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http://www.gq.com/story/rick-perry-e...partment-nukes
Rod, still feeling good about the people Trump's judgment? Yikes. |
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I am not worried about Perry in that position. Did you worry when Bill Richardson or Hazel O'Leary were in charge? The Military are in charge of the "Nukes". The department of energy designs them and test them. Very different items. The military requests new weapons systems and the labs deliver (along with the other parts of the weapons complex). One man is not in charge. It is an admin position.
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Grant your attitude and treatment of other people is part of the problem...calling people lib-tards, snowflakes, consistently referring to the need of playdough etc. I highly doubt you don't follow Milo as he talks the very same way. As much as you want to defend free speech, you should also want to defend those who are the victims of other's who use their power, celebrity, political position, etc to attack and harass others....the type of attack that a guy like Milo does for a living.
We are humans and Americans. We all need to remember that. We can have different opinions and positions, but we can do that respectfully. I get it that violent protest is hypocritical (and I can agree on that), but I think some unfortunately see no other way. I think if both sides condemned Milo (and other's) with his attempt to profit and mainstream hate it would be a huge step forward. |
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