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beleza 03-18-2016 5:10 PM

Been riding LF boards for the last 15 years… thinking of trying something new
 
Been riding LF board pretty much ever since I started boarding. Great boards. Never had many issues, but I am just wanting to try something new. I like loose boards. My last three liquid force boards were the Lyman, Watson Hybrid and currently have the Harley. My favorite was probably the Lyman followed by the Watson Hybrid and then the Harley. The Harley is a good all around board but not as loose as I like.

Recommendations? I only ride behind the boat. I'm leaning toward the Slingshot Recoil or Ronix One timebomb. If the Watson Hybrid and the LF Lyman had a baby that's what I'm looking for. Not sure what's out there so some suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

dezul 03-18-2016 7:44 PM

It sounds like you would like the slingshot blue pill.

beg4wake 03-22-2016 6:47 AM

I have the Timebomb. You would like it a lot I feel. I actually feel that I myself may like the Slingshot Blue Pill better from what I've read on reviews and can't wait to give it a try! I do know that a super "fun" board to ride that's very loose and just a blast is the Slingshot Nomad. It's a bigger board but very buttery! Lot's of play time on that board! Good pop too with soft landings. Just not quite the board if you want to throw a lot of technical tricks or spins.

beg4wake 03-22-2016 6:50 AM

Here's a video, don't know if you've seen it, of "Zucky" riding his Nomad....it kind of showcases just how playful the Nomad can be!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6FyJl5OQ0A

chillinoj 03-22-2016 7:08 AM

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Originally Posted by beg4wake (Post 1931713)
Here's a video, don't know if you've seen it, of "Zucky" riding his Nomad....it kind of showcases just how playful the Nomad can be!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6FyJl5OQ0A

I have no doubt that the nomad is a fun, playful board based on it's design, but in that video Zucky is riding a terrain not a nomad.

I have been riding a SS hooke for years and just took the plunge on Code 22 I'll let you know how it goes

slidin_out 03-22-2016 8:30 AM

Switched to SS Reflex last year and like it way better than any board from Hyperlite I've ever had. I'm a creature of habit and tend to stick to a brand if I like it so switching to a SS board was hard to fathom. After a couple of rides I was sold.

beg4wake 03-22-2016 9:52 AM

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Originally Posted by chillinoj (Post 1931717)
I have no doubt that the nomad is a fun, playful board based on it's design, but in that video Zucky is riding a terrain not a nomad.

I have been riding a SS hooke for years and just took the plunge on Code 22 I'll let you know how it goes

You are correct...At first glance I thought it was the Nomad...shaped a lot like the Nomad and similar graphics. I stand corrected!

Medium 03-22-2016 3:02 PM

I was on a Watson classic and switched to the SS Recoil and I've been really happy with it.

dezul 03-22-2016 6:41 PM

As someone who has rode the Watson hybrid and blue pill, I feel like they are close enough alike which is why I suggested it earlier. I feel like the rocker on the blue pill is more abrupt. Besides that, they ride a lot alike.

beleza 03-22-2016 10:06 PM

Thanks Tim. I did some research on the blue pill and it's on my short list now. The aggressive abrubt 3 stage was my only concern with the blue pill. Don't get me wrong, I like pop and big air but what's more important to me at this stage of my riding is something predictable. Most of my riding nowadays is wake to wake. Landing in the flats every time wears me out. Blue pill still sound like it would suit me? The board I was going to buy this year was the Liquid Force Super Trip. Until I decided to maybe venture out a bit.

03-30-2016 5:38 AM

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ironj32 03-31-2016 4:40 AM

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Originally Posted by beleza (Post 1931570)
three liquid force boards were the Lyman, Watson Hybrid...

I used to ride, and loved, all of those boards as well. I switched Ronix a few years ago, and I'd say the Code22 and One Time Bombs would be the closest to those. The Code22 felt most similar to the Lyman, in my opinion.

TopWakeboardStyles 03-31-2016 7:11 PM

Liquid force has some of my favorite designs for boards. My next favorite has to be Hyperlite. The Hyperlite Machete wakeboard is one of my new favorites. It is a 3 stage rocker so it has a more aggressive pop but the bottom has a point on it so it softens the landings more. I recommend looking into it.

beleza 03-31-2016 11:47 PM

Geez I'm realizing there are a ton of options out there. I think I've narrowed it down to the Slingshot Reflex and the Blue Pill. My main priorities are that it will be loose, consistent and land soft. My Harley has 0.7 inch fins and it's a tad too sticky for me. I've been looking all over for the old Liquid Force Lyman fins to switch them out with but can't find them. Which board is looser between the Reflex and Blue Pill?

dezul 04-01-2016 6:18 AM

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Originally Posted by beleza (Post 1932226)
Geez I'm realizing there are a ton of options out there. I think I've narrowed it down to the Slingshot Reflex and the Blue Pill. My main priorities are that it will be loose, consistent and land soft. My Harley has 0.7 inch fins and it's a tad too sticky for me. I've been looking all over for the old Liquid Force Lyman fins to switch them out with but can't find them. Which board is looser between the Reflex and Blue Pill?

The reflex will be looser. The bottom of the blue pill has some small channels on the that help it track a little more than the reflex. The reflex has a smooth bottom. Both the blue pill and the reflex will be looser than the liquid force boards you mentioned.

I am a little surprised you would choose the Reflex over the Response. Both are the same shape except the Response is a little more stiff which helps with popping off of the wake. The Reflex is considered more of a cable board.

Ttime41 04-01-2016 6:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dezul (Post 1932229)
The reflex will be looser. The bottom of the blue pill has some small channels on the that help it track a little more than the reflex. The reflex has a smooth bottom. Both the blue pill and the reflex will be looser than the liquid force boards you mentioned.

I am a little surprised you would choose the Reflex over the Response. Both are the same shape except the Response is a little more stiff which helps with popping off of the wake. The Reflex is considered more of a cable board.

The Reflex and the Response are actually not the same shape at all. Slingshot's line of classic shapes goes as follows: Response (continuous rocker), Reflex (blended rocker, Recoil (3-stage rocker). The profile of each of those boards is different as well. Flex feels about the same on both, but having a bit of extra rocker on the reflex makes it pop a bit harder than the Response. They market the Reflex as a cable board, and it is by far my favorite board on cable, but it is just as capable as a boat board as the Response. If you prefer a looser, less locked-in ride, the Reflex would be a great board for you.

beleza 04-01-2016 8:28 AM

Crap guys I'm an idiot. I meant the RECOIL not the Reflex. Recoil or Blue Pill?

ironj32 04-01-2016 11:37 AM

Blue Pill will be closer to the Lyman.

dezul 04-02-2016 4:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ttime41 (Post 1932230)
The Reflex and the Response are actually not the same shape at all. Slingshot's line of classic shapes goes as follows: Response (continuous rocker), Reflex (blended rocker, Recoil (3-stage rocker). The profile of each of those boards is different as well. Flex feels about the same on both, but having a bit of extra rocker on the reflex makes it pop a bit harder than the Response. They market the Reflex as a cable board, and it is by far my favorite board on cable, but it is just as capable as a boat board as the Response. If you prefer a looser, less locked-in ride, the Reflex would be a great board for you.

You are correct. My response previously about the flex was based off of my knee test in my local board shop. I felt like the Response was a little stiffer than the reflex. My knee test isn't science though.

If you are choosing between the recoil and blue pill, the blue pill will be a little more locked in. I think that is the only difference. I ride the 2014 version of the blue pill which is the same shape as the 2013/2014 SS Lyman. I have a lot of experience on the Recoil too. Both are great boards.

WheelerWake 04-02-2016 5:21 AM

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Originally Posted by beleza (Post 1932226)
My Harley has 0.7 inch fins and it's a tad too sticky for me. I've been looking all over for the old Liquid Force Lyman fins to switch them out with but can't find them.

You could always just cut down/grind away the Harley fins to loosen it up.

dezul 04-02-2016 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by WheelerWake (Post 1932312)
You could always just cut down/grind away the Harley fins to loosen it up.

Honestly the Harley has too many built in channels which makes it a little more grippy. The fins don't have much to do with it until he sets an edge.

conrmic 04-03-2016 9:52 AM

Youre making a mistake man.... hyperlite Kruz. Like that Harley but better. Best board that I've had

beleza 04-03-2016 9:20 PM

Just ordered the blue pill! Thanks for the coupon code Terry! Now I have to figure out which bindings... RADS? Will other brands of bindings fit okay on Slingshot boards?

nathanb 04-04-2016 3:45 AM

All other brands should fit as the slingshot run the track mounts. My brother has LF bindings on his Pill

chillinoj 04-04-2016 5:40 AM

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Originally Posted by beleza (Post 1932376)
Just ordered the blue pill! Thanks for the coupon code Terry! Now I have to figure out which bindings... RADS? Will other brands of bindings fit okay on Slingshot boards?

Nice man enjoy! thats a fun board! But yeah I have run hyperlite systems on the fast track, with only needing to use a washer or two to make sure the screw didn't bottom out, but otherwise no issues

dezul 04-05-2016 5:46 PM

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Originally Posted by beleza (Post 1932376)
Just ordered the blue pill! Thanks for the coupon code Terry! Now I have to figure out which bindings... RADS? Will other brands of bindings fit okay on Slingshot boards?

I like the Shredtowns, my feet tend to get numb on top, the Shredtowns don't cause the numbing. The KTVs are more stiff than the Shredtowns. The RADs were pretty loose in 2014. The 2015 model improved but I have no experience with the 2015 or newer RADs. I suggest you get something from another brand if that is what you are use to. As far as the pop on the blue pill, it might take a little bit to find it. For me, I release a split second off of the wake later than a stiff board with a little more push from my rear leg. You will figure it out pretty quickly since you are an experienced rider. Enjoy. Don't forget to give us your follow up thoughts on the board.

beleza 04-05-2016 7:31 PM

Thanks for the insight Tim. I was up for hours last night looking at tons of different bindings and was ready to order the Shredtowns but my only concern was them being all velcro and not being able to cinch them down very tight. Have you had any issues Tim? Any issues with the liners and boots being two separate pieces? I currently have the LF Shane boots and they are comfy. No complaints really. Been riding the Shane's for the last few years. My only reasoning for replacing them was the same reason as replacing my board... just ready to try something different. I am back and forth between the Shredtowns and the RADs. If getting the Shredtowns tight isn't an issue I will probably go with them.

dezul 04-06-2016 3:36 PM

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Originally Posted by beleza (Post 1932512)
Thanks for the insight Tim. I was up for hours last night looking at tons of different bindings and was ready to order the Shredtowns but my only concern was them being all velcro and not being able to cinch them down very tight. Have you had any issues Tim? Any issues with the liners and boots being two separate pieces? I currently have the LF Shane boots and they are comfy. No complaints really. Been riding the Shane's for the last few years. My only reasoning for replacing them was the same reason as replacing my board... just ready to try something different. I am back and forth between the Shredtowns and the RADs. If getting the Shredtowns tight isn't an issue I will probably go with them.

Like I said, I wasn't a fan of the 2014 RADs, but that is just my opinion. I have never had any issues out of my 2014 Shredtowns. The Velcro stays snug and the linear suck to your feet and feel comfy. If I had to pick a con for them, they are a little more bulky than the ktv or rads. They also fit pretty true to size. I wear a 10 in shoes and bindings. If you like the tip of your toe to touch the end, then you may want to size down.

bmr82 08-31-2016 10:20 PM

I am in exactly the same boat you are, no pun intended. Loved the liquid force lyman for how loose it was. I'm not a take it to flats guy so that late pop of the lyman was my only complaint. I've narrowed my SS selection down to the recoil or blue pill.

Any update or feedback since you've been riding yours?

beleza 09-01-2016 1:30 AM

Yes. Been riding the Slingshot blue pill this entire season and I am loving it. Much looser on the water and great pop. I can play around on it much easier than my old Harley. Have done alot progressing on it which is always a good sign when trying a new board. I kept my shane boots just because they are so comfy and I was afraid I would be disappointed with the slingshot boots even though I've heard great things about them
Also I wear a 9.5 shoe so I couldn't decide if I should get the size 9 or size 10 Slingshot boots. So I will stick with my Shanes (size 9-10) for now. Give Slingshot a try if you are looking for something new. Very fun board.

bill 09-01-2016 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by beg4wake (Post 1931712)
I have the Timebomb. You would like it a lot I feel. I actually feel that I myself may like the Slingshot Blue Pill better from what I've read on reviews and can't wait to give it a try! I do know that a super "fun" board to ride that's very loose and just a blast is the Slingshot Nomad. It's a bigger board but very buttery! Lot's of play time on that board! Good pop too with soft landings. Just not quite the board if you want to throw a lot of technical tricks or spins.

what do you like about the timebomb, describe the ride ,

I also ride a Harley and don't mind the grppy feel but I'm looking for a new board and maybe one similar to the harley maybe faster with softer landings..I don't like a loose ride behind the boat but not to tight either.. I used to ride a Bside and that was tighter but rode similar to my style as well as the S4 which was great but hard landings..

Timebomb anything like these?


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